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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
12-21-2007, 08:59 PM
Hooverville II: Brought to you by Bushonomics™

By Dana Ford Fri Dec 21, 8:18 AM ET

ONTARIO, California (Reuters) - Between railroad tracks and beneath the roar of departing planes sits "tent city," a terminus for homeless people. It is not, as might be expected, in a blighted city center, but in the once-booming suburbia of Southern California.

The noisy, dusty camp sprang up in July with 20 residents and now numbers 200 people, including several children, growing as this region east of Los Angeles has been hit by the U.S. housing crisis.

The unraveling of the region known as the Inland Empire reads like a 21st century version of "The Grapes of Wrath," John Steinbeck's novel about families driven from their lands by the Great Depression.

As more families throw in the towel and head to foreclosure here and across the nation, the social costs of collapse are adding up in the form of higher rates of homelessness, crime and even disease.

While no current residents claim to be victims of foreclosure, all agree that tent city is a symptom of the wider economic downturn. And it's just a matter of time before foreclosed families end up at tent city, local housing experts say.

"They don't hit the streets immediately," said activist Jane Mercer. Most families can find transitional housing in a motel or with friends before turning to charity or the streets. "They only hit tent city when they really bottom out."

Steve, 50, who declined to give his last name, moved to tent city four months ago. He gets social security payments, but cannot work and said rents are too high.

"House prices are going down, but the rentals are sky-high," said Steve. "If it wasn't for here, I wouldn't have a place to go."

'SQUATTING IN VACANT HOUSES'

Nationally, foreclosures are at an all-time high. Filings are up nearly 100 percent from a year ago, according to the data firm RealtyTrac. Officials say that as many as half a million people could lose their homes as adjustable mortgage rates rise over the next two years.

California ranks second in the nation for foreclosure filings -- one per 88 households last quarter. Within California, San Bernardino county in the Inland Empire is worse -- one filing for every 43 households, according to RealtyTrac.

Maryanne Hernandez bought her dream house in San Bernardino in 2003 and now risks losing it after falling four months behind on mortgage payments.

"It's not just us. It's all over," said Hernandez, who lives in a neighborhood where most families are struggling to meet payments and many have lost their homes.

She has noticed an increase in crime since the foreclosures started. Her house was robbed, her kids' bikes were stolen and she worries about what type of message empty houses send.

The pattern is cropping up in communities across the country, like Cleveland, Ohio, where Mark Wiseman, director of the Cuyahoga County Foreclosure Prevention Program, said there are entire blocks of homes in Cleveland where 60 or 70 percent of houses are boarded up.

"I don't think there are enough police to go after criminals holed up in those houses, squatting or doing drug deals or whatever," Wiseman said.

"And it's not just a problem of a neighborhood filled with people squatting in the vacant houses, it's the people left behind, who have to worry about people taking siding off your home or breaking into your house while you're sleeping."

Health risks are also on the rise. All those empty swimming pools in California's Inland Empire have become breeding grounds for mosquitoes, which can transmit the sometimes deadly West Nile virus, Riverside County officials say.

'TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECT'

But it is not just homeowners who are hit by the foreclosure wave. People who rent now find themselves in a tighter, more expensive market as demand rises from families who lost homes, said Jean Beil, senior vice president for programs and services at Catholic Charities USA.

"Folks who would have been in a house before are now in an apartment and folks that would have been in an apartment, now can't afford it," said Beil. "It has a trickle-down effect."

For cities, foreclosures can trigger a range of short-term costs, like added policing, inspection and code enforcement. These expenses can be significant, said Lt. Scott Patterson with the San Bernardino Police Department, but the larger concern is that vacant properties lower home values and in the long-run, decrease tax revenues.

And it all comes at a time when municipalities are ill-equipped to respond. High foreclosure rates and declining home values are sapping property tax revenues, a key source of local funding to tackle such problems.

Earlier this month, U.S. President George W. Bush rolled out a plan to slow foreclosures by freezing the interest rates on some loans. But for many in these parts, the intervention is too little and too late.

Ken Sawa, CEO of Catholic Charities in San Bernardino and Riverside counties, said his organization is overwhelmed and ill-equipped to handle the volume of people seeking help.

"We feel helpless," said Sawa. "Obviously, it's a local problem because it's in our backyard, but the solution is not local."

(Additional reporting by Andrea Hopkins in Ohio; Editing by Mary Milliken and Eddie Evans)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071221/lf_nm/usa_housing_social_dc

Spider
12-21-2007, 09:08 PM
My Kids will never be homeless or go hungry ....... even if I have to steal

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
12-21-2007, 09:18 PM
Nationally, foreclosures are at an all-time high. Filings are up nearly 100 percent from a year ago, according to the data firm RealtyTrac. Officials say that as many as half a million people could lose their homes as adjustable mortgage rates rise over the next two years.

Ostriches like W*GS and Lone Bolt will call you a "doomster" for mentioning inconvenient realities like the above.

Spider
12-21-2007, 09:22 PM
Ostriches like W*GS and Lone Bolt will call you a "doomster" for mentioning inconvenient realities like the above.

everyone has to have a hobbie ;D

W*GS
12-21-2007, 09:30 PM
Ostriches like W*GS and Lone Bolt will call you a "doomster" for mentioning inconvenient realities like the above.

I call you a doomster because you approve of "Nagasaki" as a metaphor for the current economic situation.

There's no depths you won't plumb in your seething hatred of Bush. It's pathetic.

cutthemdown
12-21-2007, 09:40 PM
They just said not one of the people in this tent city has been foreclosed on so how does it have anything to do with the mortgage crisis. There will always be homeless because there will always be people that fall on hard times or are just plain lazy with too many kids.

cutthemdown
12-21-2007, 09:42 PM
My Kids will never be homeless or go hungry ....... even if I have to steal

Those Ocean's 11 movies make it seem pretty fun and they all seem like good guys.

Spider
12-21-2007, 09:59 PM
Those Ocean's 11 movies make it seem pretty fun and they all seem like good guys.

Never seen oceans 11 ...... I dont watch alot of movies .......

Spider
12-21-2007, 10:01 PM
They just said not one of the people in this tent city has been foreclosed on so how does it have anything to do with the mortgage crisis. There will always be homeless because there will always be people that fall on hard times or are just plain lazy with too many kids.

Dont judge another man untill you have walked in his shoes ... you kids these days , long on mouth ,short on ears ........

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
12-21-2007, 10:04 PM
They just said not one of the people in this tent city has been foreclosed on so how does it have anything to do with the mortgage crisis.

While no current residents claim to be victims of foreclosure, all agree that tent city is a symptom of the wider economic downturn. And it's just a matter of time before foreclosed families end up at tent city, local housing experts say.

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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
12-21-2007, 10:07 PM
Dont judge another man untill you have walked in his shoes ...

That's the problem: Silver spooners like W*GS have no clue as to what that would be like.

cutthemdown
12-21-2007, 11:25 PM
Dont judge another man untill you have walked in his shoes ... you kids these days , long on mouth ,short on ears ........

I said it's a cause of either falling on bad times, or being lazy. That statement to me leaves some leeway to say it's not always the persons fault but sometimes just bad breaks. You are just short on eyes when it comes to reading and only see what you want to argue with.

spdirty
12-21-2007, 11:33 PM
someone tell these people that if they want to go camping they should go to the mountains.

W*GS
12-21-2007, 11:46 PM
That's the problem: Silver spooners like W*GS have no clue as to what that would be like.

I'm hardly a "silver spooner".

baja
12-22-2007, 02:16 AM
someone tell these people that if they want to go camping they should go to the mountains.

Your day is coming trust me.

Either you are with us or you are against

You are going to be shocked to find out you are not included in the "us"

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
12-22-2007, 03:38 AM
Your day is coming trust me.

Either you are with us or you are against

You are going to be shocked to find out you are not included in the "us"

Exactly.

Amazing how these people think all they have to do is french Bush's backside long and hard enough and they'll be spared or guaranteed a place at the table.

Spider
12-22-2007, 10:35 AM
I said it's a cause of either falling on bad times, or being lazy. That statement to me leaves some leeway to say it's not always the persons fault but sometimes just bad breaks. You are just short on eyes when it comes to reading and only see what you want to argue with.

I read what you said , who are you to determine who is lazy ? Chances are you couldnt keep up with me for a week working at my pace .... does that make you lazy ?
you may have an education cutthemdown,but you still need wisdom .....

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
12-22-2007, 03:14 PM
someone tell these people that if they want to go camping they should go to the mountains.

OK, Ebenezer. :oyvey:

Los Broncos
12-22-2007, 04:18 PM
someone tell these people that if they want to go camping they should go to the mountains.

Thats pretty insensitive.

cutthemdown
12-22-2007, 04:39 PM
I read what you said , who are you to determine who is lazy ? Chances are you couldnt keep up with me for a week working at my pace .... does that make you lazy ?
you may have an education cutthemdown,but you still need wisdom .....

I agree wisdom is never something you can just say I have now. I said though people sometimes have some bad breaks and it leads them to being homeless. I'm not saying that if your homeless its your fault, but sometimes it is. Sometimes people get sick, lose their job and can't find one, husband runs out and leaves a women with 3 kids and no money etc etc etc. Some people lose their minds!!!!

I have a big heart bro and if you knew me better you would realize that. I'm not a cold heartless person that looks at homeless and says scumbag. I actually try to help people like this out by contributing to my local shelters. My best friend and I every yr buy 300-500 dollars worth of toys and drop them off at toys for tots. My band played a toys for tots charity this yr. I just don't think the govt should be the one to help people. I think govt screws everything up and is a pile of waste when it comes to charity.

I really feel it's up to us, individual Americans, to make a difference. I can't say for sure, but I bet a lot of the people who like to point out how bad things are don't participate in charities, and are themselves selfish.

Spider
12-22-2007, 04:45 PM
I agree wisdom is never something you can just say I have now. I said though people sometimes have some bad breaks and it leads them to being homeless. I'm not saying that if your homeless its your fault, but sometimes it is. Sometimes people get sick, lose their job and can't find one, husband runs out and leaves a women with 3 kids and no money etc etc etc. Some people lose their minds!!!!

I have a big heart bro and if you knew me better you would realize that. I'm not a cold heartless person that looks at homeless and says scumbag. I actually try to help people like this out by contributing to my local shelters. My best friend and I every yr buy 300-500 dollars worth of toys and drop them off at toys for tots. My band played a toys for tots charity this yr. I just don't think the govt should be the one to help people. I think govt screws everything up and is a pile of waste when it comes to charity.

I really feel it's up to us, individual Americans, to make a difference. I can't say for sure, but I bet a lot of the people who like to point out how bad things are don't participate in charities, and are themselves selfish.

you put this much thought in your post , you will elevate peoples opinion , and this is a valid opinion you posted here .....

Spider
12-22-2007, 04:47 PM
I agree wisdom is never something you can just say I have now. I said though people sometimes have some bad breaks and it leads them to being homeless. I'm not saying that if your homeless its your fault, but sometimes it is. Sometimes people get sick, lose their job and can't find one, husband runs out and leaves a women with 3 kids and no money etc etc etc. Some people lose their minds!!!!

I have a big heart bro and if you knew me better you would realize that. I'm not a cold heartless person that looks at homeless and says scumbag. I actually try to help people like this out by contributing to my local shelters. My best friend and I every yr buy 300-500 dollars worth of toys and drop them off at toys for tots. My band played a toys for tots charity this yr. I just don't think the govt should be the one to help people. I think govt screws everything up and is a pile of waste when it comes to charity.

I really feel it's up to us, individual Americans, to make a difference. I can't say for sure, but I bet a lot of the people who like to point out how bad things are don't participate in charities, and are themselves selfish.
I really cant pick out something to argue with here , I will just add that letting the federal government do it , by passes peoples personal prejudices and enforce equal treatment for all ..... I know the system isnt perfect , but it beats nothing at all

Los Broncos
12-22-2007, 05:09 PM
My father was homeless for most of his life, he was an alcoholic and drug addict.

Ive come close to being homeless but not because of laziness.

I was in a bad car wreck on my way to work about five years ago.

I was on my own, my truck was totaled and i couldn't make it to work.

I didn't cry or complain, i tryed to find a job near by that i could walk too.

I just had to hold out till my insurance helped me out.

Ive never been into drugs or drinking much.

But ive had ADD since i was a child, its tough to deal with.

I guess having it can get you into some trouble, ive gone threw a few jobs that i was sick of and just quit.

Maybe its taken this long in my life to realize that i cant keep making the same mistakes.

Spider
12-22-2007, 05:16 PM
My father was homeless for most of his life, he was an alcoholic and drug addict.

Ive come close to being homeless but not because of laziness.

I was in a bad car wreck on my way to work about five years ago.

I was on my own, my truck was totaled and i couldn't make it to work.

I didn't cry or complain, i tryed to find a job near by that i could walk too.

I just had to hold out till my insurance helped me out.

Ive never been into drugs or drinking much.

But ive had ADD since i was a child, its tough to deal with.

I guess having it can get you into some trouble, ive gone threw a few jobs that i was sick of and just quit.

Maybe its taken this long in my life to realize that i cant keep making the same mistakes.

well if it helps , I danced this dance ( except for the ADD part , but my daughter has it , hat tip to you )
I was unloading at TTT trucking in Wheatland Wyoming , when the guy wasnt paying attention and rolled a Semi tire /w rim breaking my back , I had 2 kids at the time , and couldnt move , I was in a full body cast , My biggest mistake was accepting help from a member of my wifes family , We got kicked out , I had a 28 foot RV we stayed in , 5 years later I was able to go back to work buy a house , I learned one hellva lesson from that ...... My family will never have to depend on anyone ever again .......

Los Broncos
12-22-2007, 05:23 PM
well if it helps , I danced this dance ( except for the ADD part , but my daughter has it , hat tip to you )
I was unloading at TTT trucking in Wheatland Wyoming , when the guy wasnt paying attention and rolled a Semi tire /w rim breaking my back , I had 2 kids at the time , and couldnt move , I was in a full body cast , My biggest mistake was accepting help from a member of my wifes family , We got kicked out , I had a 28 foot RV we stayed in , 5 years later I was able to go back to work buy a house , I learned one hellva lesson from that ...... My family will never have to depend on anyone ever again .......

Dam, thats not good, props for making it threw it all.

Ill be ok in the end i think once i get my foot in the door threw the Tech field.

I don't know where i would be without my gf.

This world don't owe me nothing.