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Taco John
12-18-2007, 04:22 AM
Should be an interesting show today... Glenn Beck has been very critical of Paul, calling him everything from a kook and even insinuating that his supporters are terrorists. A full hour on Glenn Beck has the potential to either give the campaign a shot in the arm (Hu

Here's the build up to this show for anyone interested in the history of this confrontation.

Glenn Beck: Ron Paul is Crazy
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Glenn Beck: Ron Paul Supporters - Terrorists?
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Ron Paul Slams Glenn Beck "On occasion he's a demagogue..."
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Glenn Beck Calls Out Ron Paul - Challenges him to an hour on the show
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Glenn Beck Announces Paul has Accepted the Challenge
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Should make for an interesting hour...

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
12-18-2007, 10:51 AM
I hope Paul b*tch slaps that corporate lapdog POS. :thumbsup:

Bronco Bob
12-18-2007, 10:57 AM
CNN had a very powder puff interview of Ron Paul this morning.
Basically just spoon fed him questions and pretty much let him
have his say without questioning his answers.

cutthemdown
12-18-2007, 12:18 PM
If Paul can have a good showing in the early primaries it will really get fun to watch.

W*GS
12-18-2007, 12:26 PM
From what little I've seen of Beck, he's a moron.

Denver Crush
12-18-2007, 12:29 PM
CNN had a very powder puff interview of Ron Paul this morning.
Basically just spoon fed him questions and pretty much let him
have his say without questioning his answers.


You mean exactly the same way the frontrunner's get questioned?

Bronco Bob
12-18-2007, 12:35 PM
You mean exactly the same way the frontrunner's get questioned?

If you mean the way Obama gets questioned (or lack there of) then yes.

defenseman
12-18-2007, 01:24 PM
CNN had a very powder puff interview of Ron Paul this morning.
Basically just spoon fed him questions and pretty much let him
have his say without questioning his answers.

CNN = powderpuff, unless of course you are a democrat..dman

Spider
12-18-2007, 02:00 PM
Just as soon watch 2 fat people fight over the last plate of chicken wings .....

Bob
12-18-2007, 02:48 PM
I hope Paul b*tch slaps that corporate lapdog POS. :thumbsup:

Dont think you will see blood in the streets, or during the interview.

Glenn will most likely treat him well unless Paul goes after him. I think Beck was pissed that Ron Paul wouldnt come on his show dispite many requests, thats when he started bashing him a bit. And I know there is a tendency to lump all conservatives together, but Beck bashes greedy corperations, and the Republican party more than any other conservative talk show hosts. Beck has many Libertarian leanings, but wonders (as I do I ) about the practicel application of some of the ideas...

Crushaholic
12-18-2007, 03:38 PM
Glenn Beck is great. Friday mornings during the football season, he plays moron trivia. He picks one game that weekend and calls convenience store clerks from both of the cities and asks them simple questions. The answers are often hilarious, which is the reason it's called moron trivia. It's kind of like the radio version of Jaywalking with Jay Leno. I'll be interested to see how the interview goes between Beck and the "man of the people"...Hilarious!

TailgateNut
12-18-2007, 03:44 PM
the "man of the people"...Hilarious!



LOL LOL LOL

are you talking about the "wet chiuahua"?

Crushaholic
12-18-2007, 03:50 PM
LOL LOL LOL

are you talking about the "wet chiuahua"?

I've never heard Ron Paul described in that way, but...yeah...that works...8')

Traveler
12-18-2007, 03:51 PM
From what little I've seen of Beck, he's a moron.

I happened to tune in one night he had a Muslim on the show. He said the following:

"How do I know you aren't a terrorist? Prove to me you aren't a terrorist."

I would have b!tch slap him then asked him to prove to me he wasn't a racist!

Never been on my radar (or television) since.

defenseman
12-18-2007, 04:12 PM
I happened to tune in one night he had a Muslim on the show. He said the following:

"How do I know you aren't a terrorist? Prove to me you aren't a terrorist."

I would have b!tch slap him then asked him to prove to me he wasn't a racist!

Never been on my radar (or television) since.

To each his own. When the moderate muslims let their collective voices be known that in fact, they abhor terrorism and will help in anyway to curb the violence and wipe out terrorism all together, well, no one will be asking questions of them similar to what Beck asked. Legally assimilate into society, have the guts to call terrorism and terrorists what they are, murderers, and they won't have any problems here I'm sure. Simple solution...dman

ant1999e
12-18-2007, 04:43 PM
I happened to tune in one night he had a Muslim on the show. He said the following:

"How do I know you aren't a terrorist? Prove to me you aren't a terrorist."

I would have b!tch slap him then asked him to prove to me he wasn't a racist!

Never been on my radar (or television) since.

He was making a point, not being literal.

Traveler
12-18-2007, 04:52 PM
To each his own. When the moderate muslims let their collective voices be known that in fact, they abhor terrorism and will help in anyway to curb the violence and wipe out terrorism all together, well, no one will be asking questions of them similar to what Beck asked. Legally assimilate into society, have the guts to call terrorism and terrorists what they are, murderers, and they won't have any problems here I'm sure. Simple solution...dman

That's exactly what the guy did!

Litteral or not, he had no right to ask that type of question. The guy was put off, but kept his composure and stated his views as you mentioned above.

Traveler
12-18-2007, 04:55 PM
He was making a point, not being literal.

You're right! He was branding all Muslims as terrorists?

baja
12-18-2007, 07:01 PM
It's on now

baja
12-18-2007, 07:05 PM
God I love this man...

Bob
12-18-2007, 07:07 PM
That's exactly what the guy did!

Litteral or not, he had no right to ask that type of question. The guy was put off, but kept his composure and stated his views as you mentioned above.

I doubt that you happened to tune in, and happened to hear the most controversial thing he has said in the past two years....

If you were that unlikely I feel bad because he is a hell of a lot more honest than most in the media.

baja
12-18-2007, 07:09 PM
It's taken about 5 minutes for Dr. Paul to win over Glenn Beck.

Ron Paul is the real deal, completely genuine.

Bronco Bob
12-18-2007, 07:12 PM
If you were that unlikely I feel bad because he is a hell of a lot more honest than most in the media.

Glenn Beck honest? HA! I listened one day to his right wing talking points
on global warming one day and found myself shouting at the TV "NO IT
ISN'T! FALSE! LIAR! BULL****!" Finally changed the channel in disgust.

baja
12-18-2007, 07:24 PM
I'm sitting in my hotel room in San Diego clapping and cheering the TV.

I hope millions are watching this, I wish I wish I wish.

Bob
12-18-2007, 08:03 PM
Glenn Beck honest? HA! I listened one day to his right wing talking points
on global warming one day and found myself shouting at the TV "NO IT
ISN'T! FALSE! LIAR! BULL****!" Finally changed the channel in disgust.

He does believe that global warming is not a new faith to embrace -- so in that way he is honest...

Disagree all you want with his stance.

Bob
12-18-2007, 08:04 PM
I'm sitting in my hotel room in San Diego clapping and cheering the TV.

I hope millions are watching this, I wish I wish I wish.

So is Beck being the evil hate monger that the left paints him to be, or is he giving Paul a fair shake?

Taco John
12-18-2007, 08:09 PM
I think that was the best interview Dr. Paul has had yet.

Glenn Beck told Ron Paul that he wanted to french kiss him... Dr. Paul was pretty uncomfortable with that whole bit...

baja
12-18-2007, 08:53 PM
So is Beck being the evil hate monger that the left paints him to be, or is he giving Paul a fair shake?

Not only was Beck fair I believe Ron Paul will get his vote and maybe even his endorsement.

cutthemdown
12-18-2007, 09:13 PM
I'm sitting in my hotel room in San Diego clapping and cheering the TV.

I hope millions are watching this, I wish I wish I wish.

I figured you would have jumped off the bandwagon after I pointed out Ron Paul is against the Federal Govt giving any sort of money away to other countries. No Tsunami aid etc etc. No tax money of any kind going to anything but what the constitution allows.

baja
12-18-2007, 10:25 PM
Go away kid. The only thing you have pointed out is that you are an idiot.

cutthemdown
12-18-2007, 10:32 PM
Go away kid. The only thing you have pointed out is that you are smarter then me.

So you are still saying Ron Paul would have sent money in aid for the tsunami victims? I think you are the one proving you are an idiot. You support someone and you don't even understand his views. You really need to read up before you make a choice little fella.

Traveler
12-18-2007, 10:37 PM
I doubt that you happened to tune in, and happened to hear the most controversial thing he has said in the past two years....

If you were that unlikely I feel bad because he is a hell of a lot more honest than most in the media.

Wouldn't say it if it wasn't true.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
12-18-2007, 11:06 PM
So is Beck being the evil hate monger that the left paints him to be, or is he giving Paul a fair shake?

Sounds like you're assuming both can't be true.

alkemical
12-19-2007, 12:30 AM
Here's a google video for the interview:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8417135044213597647&q=glen+beck+ron+paul&total=233&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=8.

spdirty
12-19-2007, 01:14 AM
just watched it. Paul impressed the hell out of me. If he got the nomination, I'd vote for him in a minute, probably even put yard signs up, but he doesn't. And Beck was very fair as well.

Anyway, was listening to the show today and Beck had one of the funniest frickin parodies Ive ever heard. Tried to listen but I have to be a damned insider to. Anyway, here are the lyrics. Song is called Conservative Christmas. You lefties should enjoy it. Oh and I guaruntee at least one of you will take it literally too.

Lyrics
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So this is Christmaaaaaaaaaas
Conservatives cryyyyyyyyyyy
Cause children are happy
And we want them to diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie

War mongering Christmaaaaaaaaaaaas
We all had some fuuuuuuuuuuun
Bombing all the A-rabs
And starving their youuuuuuuuuuung

Conservative Christmaaaaaaaaaas
Drive my SUVeeeeeeeeeee
Right over the homeless
Speed bump them with gleeeeeeeeee

Conservative Christmaaaaaaaaas
What a happy daaaaaaaaaay
‘Cause we just stole 4 million
From your 401kkkkkkkkkk’s

An intolerant Christmaaaaaaaaaaas
On the colored we spiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
And beat them for crimes that
They did not commiiiiiiiiiiiit

Conservative Christmaaaaaaaaaas
Have a happy new yeeeeeeeeeear
Unless you’re a red man
Black, yellow or queeeeeeeeeeeer

There’s a new Christmas antheeeeeeeeeem
On this holidaaaaaaaaaaay
For all those who hate us
No matter what we saaaaaaaaaaay

A Conservative Christmaaaaaaaaaaas
Have a great holidaaaaaaaaaay
Unless of course you’re a liberal
Or a conservative gaaaaaaaaaaay

A Conservative Christmaaaaaaaaas
And a write off next yeeeeeeeeeeeear
Pray for a bull market
And go kill a deeeeeeeeeeeeer

We’re war mongerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrs
Love no longerrrrrrrrrrrr
White race strongerrrrrrrrrrrr
Blah Blah Blah Blahhhhh

Bob
12-19-2007, 01:47 AM
Sounds like you're assuming both can't be true.

What I am pointing out is that ideologs are generally not fair – and Beck usually is. The left cant ever hear the words of Beck -- that he does his best to check his facts before blasting and the right assume that Kerry is a war criminal...

The truth is irrelevant, when Mecavellian politics justify any means to discredit – just so long your boy or girl gets a leg up – its freaking sick really. Its all about club points – I think you fall into this club mentality. I think that is sad for both of us, and when people get sucked into that type of smallness it is bad for the country.

Remember how far left on the chart you are, and how that might mean that you have a hard time relating to those of us that still live on planet earth.

Bob
12-19-2007, 01:53 AM
Wouldn't say it if it wasn't true.

Then I will tell you truthfully, that was one of the most contraversial statements he has made. You should listen to him he is able to do some novel things for being a TV guy. For example:

1. He can and does aplogize when he is wrong
2. he admits to being baised, and doesnt pretend to be just sharing the facts like most in the media.
3. He slams on the Republicans and the Dems
4. He is freaked out by big international businesses selling the American people down the river
5. He is often pretty funny.

Taco John
12-19-2007, 02:40 AM
I personally like Mr. Beck, though I think he’s very conflicted, confused, and is highly susceptible to emotionally charged propaganda. He seems to let his emotions run wild at the expense of logic, which is why I tuned him off a long time ago (A person so susceptible to their emotions is practically unbearable in a “post 9-11 world.”) In any case, I believe his emotions are leading him full circle as he sees the erosion of our liberties back home, and recognizes that Ron Paul is the only man in position to fix it.

I don’t believe Beck is a dyed in the wool Wilsonian neocon. I believe he’s been scared into it. The question is- what scares him more: Muslims or Globalists. We’ll get the answer when we see who he ends up endorsing

broncocalijohn
12-19-2007, 05:07 AM
i caught the last question on immigration and Paul didnt even know who Johnny Sutton was! Here is Paul, from Texas, and not even know the trial in El Paso was put on by the fraud Johnny Sutton. All Tancredo and Hunter has been calling for is to free the two border agents from the lies Johnny Sutton put out to the jury and he had no clue who he was. I wont judge him just on that but the illegal immigrant position is very important to me in the next election.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
12-19-2007, 05:29 AM
The truth is irrelevant, when Mecavellian politics justify any means to discredit – just so long your boy or girl gets a leg up – its freaking sick really. Its all about club points – I think you fall into this club mentality.

Riiiiiiiight.

Everybody knows all the bad news about Dubya and the Corrupt Old Party I've posted here is nothing more than a wholly gratuitous attempt to discredit Bush and the GOP and has absolutely no basis in fact or reality.

That's the ticket.

And just think: roughly two thirds of my fellow Americans have fallen for this same gratuitous smear campaign too.

What a bunch of idiots! ;)


Remember how far left on the chart you are, and how that might mean that you have a hard time relating to those of us that still live on planet earth.

I scored that far to the left in relation to a bunch of people on a football forum?

Now that's a shocker. :giggle:

BTW, the irony of a Bush-loving red stater professing to represent "planet earth" is too funny. :laugh:

Taco John
12-19-2007, 05:57 AM
i caught the last question on immigration and Paul didnt even know who Johnny Sutton was! Here is Paul, from Texas, and not even know the trial in El Paso was put on by the fraud Johnny Sutton. All Tancredo and Hunter has been calling for is to free the two border agents from the lies Johnny Sutton put out to the jury and he had no clue who he was. I wont judge him just on that but the illegal immigrant position is very important to me in the next election.



I had heard of Ramos and Compean, but I hadn't heard of Johnny Sutton. If the issue was on Ron's desk, you can be rest assured that he'd study it from every possible angle, though...


As far as your concern with illegal immgration, Dr. Paul's plan includes getting rid of all of the benefits that entice illegal immigrants to flaunt the immigration laws. This is really a problem of the welfare state combined with the amnesty program that Reagan presided over in the 80s. Combine the two, and what you get is a swarm of illegals who believe that if they wait long enough, they'll get legalized, so why bother going through the system?

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defenseman
12-19-2007, 10:07 AM
So is Beck being the evil hate monger that the left paints him to be, or is he giving Paul a fair shake?

He gave him a completely fair shake, and Dr. Paul even acknowledged that point. Overall, great interview. I do believe the man will do what he says he wants to do, or at least put the stepping stones in place to get there..dman

defenseman
12-19-2007, 10:13 AM
So you are still saying Ron Paul would have sent money in aid for the tsunami victims? I think you are the one proving you are an idiot. You support someone and you don't even understand his views. You really need to read up before you make a choice little fella.

You know, I've considered the scenario, IF the US stopped sending aide around the world, TODAY, what would happen. I believe, that the majority would go out of there way to be as friendly as possible to us in an attempt to get said "aide" back. In short, I believe many of them are spoiled little brats waiting for the next damn handout courtesy of the american taxpayer. Count that the same for many of the handouts the "professional entitlement" class of people across the country. I'm with Paul on this one, slice , dice and cut it down to zip squat if at all possible...dman

defenseman
12-19-2007, 10:23 AM
I had heard of Ramos and Compean, but I hadn't heard of Johnny Sutton. If the issue was on Ron's desk, you can be rest assured that he'd study it from every possible angle, though...


As far as your concern with illegal immgration, Dr. Paul's plan includes getting rid of all of the benefits that entice illegal immigrants to flaunt the immigration laws. This is really a problem of the welfare state combined with the amnesty program that Reagan presided over in the 80s. Combine the two, and what you get is a swarm of illegals who believe that if they wait long enough, they'll get legalized, so why bother going through the system?

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And the rest of his plan? Watched him last night, I really enjoyed it and he was very impressive. He explained his position wrt the middle east, now I know the whole story. I don't think he's flawed in his thought process on the ME and do endorse his position. I will say though, stop aide to israel, it's going to get interesting over there. In addition, Beck had it right, we were reigning back israel, not the other way around wanting them to do our bidding for us. Pull out, israel will go after iran eventually...dman

*On a side note, ALL politicians should be afforded the same face time Paul got. One on one debates I can deal with, the CNN debates are a freaking joke and a total waste of time for the most part. Especially when the moderator is obviously slanted in one direction. Nurse Cratchett in Des Moines is a perfect example of why some of these debates are utter failures and a dis-service to the american citizen.

Taco John
12-19-2007, 11:13 AM
And the rest of his plan? Watched him last night, I really enjoyed it and he was very impressive. He explained his position wrt the middle east, now I know the whole story. I don't think he's flawed in his thought process on the ME and do endorse his position. I will say though, stop aide to israel, it's going to get interesting over there. In addition, Beck had it right, we were reigning back israel, not the other way around wanting them to do our bidding for us. Pull out, israel will go after iran eventually...dman

*On a side note, ALL politicians should be afforded the same face time Paul got. One on one debates I can deal with, the CNN debates are a freaking joke and a total waste of time for the most part. Especially when the moderator is obviously slanted in one direction. Nurse Cratchett in Des Moines is a perfect example of why some of these debates are utter failures and a dis-service to the american citizen.


I think the ME would be a lot further along in the peace process if we weren't interfering. When Saddaam attacked Kuwait, it put Isreal and Saudi Arabia in the position to be natural allies... And maybe even Iran. Who knows what relationships could have been forged by the regional players over there if we had stayed out of it and allowed that to happen. I know one thing though: my buddy's brother might still be alive, and might not have turned into the drug addicted mess of a person that he did after the death.

baja
12-19-2007, 11:25 AM
I hope this country can adopt some of the practical ideas of Ron Paul. I just got pulled out of security to have my carry on bag checked. After tearing my bag apart the found a kitchen gadget used to julienne string beans, it had the tiniest of cutting blades shrouded by protective plastic. I could spend a half an hour trying to cut my finger without success. Yet they deemed this to be a security risk and a potential high jacking tool. All I can say is what the F has this country slipped into. Have we lost all common sense?

What I do love is all the vastly different politically orientated people posting here seem to like Ron Paul's positions and more are coming over as he gets his message out.

Bronco Bob
12-19-2007, 11:40 AM
I hope this country can adopt some of the practical ideas of Ron Paul. I just got pulled out of security to have my carry on bag checked. After tearing my bag apart the found a kitchen gadget used to julienne string beans, it had the tiniest of cutting blades shrouded by protective plastic. I could spend a half an hour trying to cut my finger without success. Yet they deemed this to be a security risk and a potential high jacking tool. All I can say is what the F has this country slipped into. Have we lost all common sense?


Any time something tragic happens people are going to over react the other way.
What I mean is who thought four airplanes could be hijacked by people armed
only with box cutters? After all, a box cutter is just a piece of plastic
with a small blade in it.
So just as before 9/11 no one thought it was a big deal to bring a piece of
plastic with a blade in it on an airplane, today after 9/11 there are people
who think it is a big deal to bring a piece of plastic with a blade in it onto
an airplane.
I doubt electing Ron Paul is going to make it any easier to bring a
piece of plastic with a blade in it onto an airplane

baja
12-19-2007, 11:45 AM
Any time something tragic happens people are going to over react the other way.
What I mean is who thought four airplanes could be hijacked by people armed
only with box cutters? After all, a box cutter is just a piece of plastic
with a small blade in it.
So just as before 9/11 no one thought it was a big deal to bring a piece of
plastic with a blade in it on an airplane, today after 9/11 there are people
who think it is a big deal to bring a piece of plastic with a blade in it onto
an airplane.
<b>I doubt electing Ron Paul is going to make it any easier to bring a
piece of plastic with a blade in it onto an airplane</b>

Maybe not right away but electing Paul would be a big time turn around back to the principals that have made this country great.

defenseman
12-19-2007, 11:45 AM
I hope this country can adopt some of the practical ideas of Ron Paul. I just got pulled out of security to have my carry on bag checked. After tearing my bag apart the found a kitchen gadget used to julienne string beans, it had the tiniest of cutting blades shrouded by protective plastic. I could spend a half an hour trying to cut my finger without success. Yet they deemed this to be a security risk and a potential high jacking tool. All I can say is what the F has this country slipped into. Have we lost all common sense?

What I do love is all the vastly different politically orientated people posting here seem to like Ron Paul's positions and more are coming over as he gets his message out.

He does appear to transcend the political fences for the most part. What is his position on the border? Secure it? Build a fence? Etc..etc...In addition, if he were to accomplish a significant reduction in taxes, how do you find the funding for the military and intelligence agencies who do need to stay in place? I do have questions wrt his zero tax stance and it's affect on some government necessities...dman

*I'm definitely with him on the U.N., and the very dangerous direction we are presently heading wrt some sort of North american union scenario. I will say, if allowed to continue in the present direction unfettered, we will reach a point where we quite simply cannot turn back because it would dessimate us financially. If we are going to stop it, now is much better than later.

baja
12-19-2007, 11:49 AM
He does appear to transcend the political fences for the most part. What is his position on the border? Secure it? Build a fence? Etc..etc...In addition, if he were to accomplish a significant reduction in taxes, how do you find the funding for the military and intelligence agencies who do need to stay in place? I do have questions wrt his zero tax stance and it's affect on some government necessities...dman

*I'm definitely with him on the U.N., and the very dangerous direction we are presently heading wrt some sort of North american union scenario. I will say, if allowed to continue in the present direction unfettered, we will reach a point where we quite simply cannot turn back because it would dessimate us financially. If we are going to stop it, now is much better than later.

I thought you watched the Beck interview? All your questions were addressed. If you want to watch it again someone in an earlier post put up a link to the Utupe vid of the interview.

defenseman
12-19-2007, 11:56 AM
I thought you watched the Beck interview? All your questions were addressed. If you want to watch it again someone in an earlier post put up a link to the Utupe vid of the interview.

No they weren't. He did not get in depth into the illegal issues enough for me. Or perhaps I stepped out a minute or two and missed it. I heard his point on making conditions in the US support ILLEGALS NOT wanting to come here. Second, I did not hear how he would fund the military and any other necessary agencies wrt keeping us as safe as possible. I am looking for some additional information wrt his positions on those.........dman

baja
12-19-2007, 12:03 PM
No they weren't. He did not get in depth into the illegal issues enough for me. Or perhaps I stepped out a minute or two and missed it. I heard his point on making conditions in the US support ILLEGALS NOT wanting to come here. Second, I did not hear how he would fund the military and any other necessary agencies wrt keeping us as safe as possible. I am looking for some additional information wrt his positions on those.........dman

Go here Dman;

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

and click on "issues" in the navigation bar.

alkemical
12-19-2007, 01:03 PM
Any time something tragic happens people are going to over react the other way.
What I mean is who thought four airplanes could be hijacked by people armed
only with box cutters? After all, a box cutter is just a piece of plastic
with a small blade in it.
So just as before 9/11 no one thought it was a big deal to bring a piece of
plastic with a blade in it on an airplane, today after 9/11 there are people
who think it is a big deal to bring a piece of plastic with a blade in it onto
an airplane.
I doubt electing Ron Paul is going to make it any easier to bring a
piece of plastic with a blade in it onto an airplane



Well, i can say we are a nation of pussies, that's for sure.

Bronco Bob
12-19-2007, 01:16 PM
Well, i can say we are a nation of pussies, that's for sure.

That's the game plan, scare voters into voting for you.

Who-ever can convince voters that Muslims are going to put a burka
on your wife, Mexicans are going to set up camp in your backyard,
your son will be forced to marry the boy next door, babies are
being aborted and sold as McNuggets, while the hunting rifle your father
gave you will be taken away and given to the crips and bloods,
wins the election.

alkemical
12-19-2007, 01:30 PM
That's the game plan, scare voters into voting for you.

Who-ever can convince voters that Muslims are going to put a burka
on your wife, Mexicans are going to set up camp in your backyard,
your son will be forced to marry the boy next door, babies are
being aborted and sold as McNuggets, while the hunting rifle your father
gave you will be taken away and given to the crips and bloods,
wins the election.

LOL, that was a good post!

It's true though. People are so scared of freedom, that they want to be told what to do.

Bob
12-19-2007, 02:40 PM
I personally like Mr. Beck, though I think he’s very conflicted, confused, and is highly susceptible to emotionally charged propaganda. He seems to let his emotions run wild at the expense of logic, which is why I tuned him off a long time ago (A person so susceptible to their emotions is practically unbearable in a “post 9-11 world.”) In any case, I believe his emotions are leading him full circle as he sees the erosion of our liberties back home, and recognizes that Ron Paul is the only man in position to fix it.

I don’t believe Beck is a dyed in the wool Wilsonian neocon. I believe he’s been scared into it. The question is- what scares him more: Muslims or Globalists. We’ll get the answer when we see who he ends up endorsing

Beck doesnt endorse...

At least before the Dem and the Repub are chosen.

Bob
12-19-2007, 02:44 PM
You know, I've considered the scenario, IF the US stopped sending aide around the world, TODAY, what would happen. I believe, that the majority would go out of there way to be as friendly as possible to us in an attempt to get said "aide" back. In short, I believe many of them are spoiled little brats waiting for the next damn handout courtesy of the american taxpayer. Count that the same for many of the handouts the "professional entitlement" class of people across the country. I'm with Paul on this one, slice , dice and cut it down to zip squat if at all possible...dman

The American PEOPLE gave more many than any other country... The aurgument could be made that the less governments give, the more the American people would be inclined and able to give.

alkemical
12-24-2007, 11:32 AM
http://prisonplanet.com/Pictures/dec07/191207Pauldead.jpg

According to Alex Jones, this was a snapshot taken during the glenn beck show.

baja
12-24-2007, 12:16 PM
I saw the show when it aired and did not see that crawler but I could have easily have missed it.

alkemical
12-24-2007, 12:18 PM
Possible Sublimal Control Mechanisms

cutthemdown
12-24-2007, 04:11 PM
The American PEOPLE gave more many than any other country... The aurgument could be made that the less governments give, the more the American people would be inclined and able to give.

Contributions from Americans are already through the roof. If the Govt gave us more of our money I agree we would give more. It's built into all humans to want to help other people and be good people. The bad ones are the defective machines for one reason or another. I have seen charity right here on this site that proves most people feel good when they help someone less fortunate out.