What did Bush know about Iran intel and when did he know it?

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WAS BUSH HIDING INTELLIGENCE?

IRAN NUKE REPORT RAISES BIG QUESTIONS

THIS WEEK'S release of the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iran answered many questions, but the White House's reaction raised far more dangerous ones, for which we deserve answers.

Despite White House blustering about the growing threat of a "nuclear Iran," the NIE found, with "high confidence," that Iran shut down its nuclear weapons program in 2003, and also found that it had not been restarted. There is almost no one who believes a nuclear Iran wouldn't be a severe threat, so the findings were a relief.

The good news: we don't need to think about any military action against Iran for a while.

Yet, downplayed by the media were the confusing set of answers from the White House and President Bush on when, exactly, they learned of this intelligence. That's important, because until recently, Bush and his administration had been adamant that Iran sought nuclear weapons, and therefore, we must consider military strikes.

In the initial White House press conference, National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley said the president was made aware of what intelligence was saying in August. That would imply that, for months, the White House knowingly made false statements to the American people about Iran. Yet, in his press conference the following day, Bush said that he didn't know what the NIE said until just last week. Which is it?

Additionally, Bush said he did recall his Intelligence Director, Mike McConnell, coming to him in August to report they had new findings on Iran, but that McConnell didn't tell him what those findings were. Are we to seriously believe that? If McConnell didn't tell him, it may warrant removal from office for gross negligence. If he did, then we have a president and his administration who made false statements about Iran's nuclear program.

This is all very dangerous for America and its security. Military action is a last resort, and if not used with extreme caution, it can have disastrous results, as we've seen with the war in Iraq. If the president and his administration knew there was no immediate security threat from Iran, and decided to lie and pretend there was to whip up the winds of war, it certainly would have to be at least considered to rise to the level of "high crimes and misdemeanors."

We deserve the truth. Congress must begin an investigation into what the president knew on Iran, and when he knew it.

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/opinion/20071207_WAS_BUSH_HIDING_INTELLIGENCE_.html

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[baja]

It's really starting to unravel for the Bush mafia.

Outed by the CIA, how incredibly poetic.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Outed by the CIA, how incredibly poetic.

Payback's a b*tch, eh? :wiggle:

[Bronco Bob]

Unless you go along with one commentators opinion that Bush didn't
want a war with Iran and this was actually Bush's way of getting
Cheney off his back.

[TailgateNut]

I recall Dman thumping on his chest about Bush not being aware of the intell.
Newsflash: Bush is, and always will be a LYING SACK OF DUNG!

[Rohirrim]

You can't prove he was lying. And if you can't prove it, that means he was telling the truth.






This is a Lonebolt test. It is only a test. If we were actually trying to make a point, it wouldn't be so ridiculous.

[TailgateNut]

You can't prove he was lying. And if you can't prove it, that means he was telling the truth.






This is a Lonebolt test. It is only a test. If we were actually trying to make a point, it wouldn't be so ridiculous.

THANKS for making me laugh so hard part of my "ZONE" bar just went into my sinus cavity!

[The Lone Bolt]

You can't prove he was lying. And if you can't prove it, that means he was telling the truth.






This is a Lonebolt test. It is only a test. If we were actually trying to make a point, it wouldn't be so ridiculous.


Allow me to disabuse you of your misunderstanding:

If there is not CONCLUSIVE evidence that bush lied then it is not a FACT that he lied it is a THEORY.

I never said that he DIDN'T lie, only that it has not yet been established as a FACT.

But hey, I can always rely on you, LABF, and the rest of the lynch mob to misrepresent and distort, can't I?

[baja]

Just what should we as Americans do Mr. Lone Bolt?

[TailgateNut]

Are you dense?

What part of:"In the initial White House press conference, National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley said the president was made aware of what intelligence was saying in August. That would imply that, for months, the White House knowingly made false statements to the American people about Iran. Yet, in his press conference the following day, Bush said that he didn't know what the NIE said until just last week. Which is it?" do you NOT understand.

Or are you a WH plant!

[Hotrod]

Just a simple misunderstanding Im sure.

[The Lone Bolt]

Are you dense?

What part of:"In the initial White House press conference, National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley said the president was made aware of what intelligence was saying in August. That would imply that, for months, the White House knowingly made false statements to the American people about Iran. Yet, in his press conference the following day, Bush said that he didn't know what the NIE said until just last week. Which is it?" do you NOT understand.

Or are you a WH plant!



Looks pretty bad for bush if it's true. Anybody have a link to exactly what Hadley said (verbatim) and when he said it? Let's look at all of the evidence before jumping to conclusions. You seem to be ready to take the word of this author without checking the facts.

Please note that the article is an opinion piece and therefore potentially biased.

[Rohirrim]

Allow me to disabuse you of your misunderstanding:

If there is not CONCLUSIVE evidence that bush lied then it is not a FACT that he lied it is a THEORY.

I never said that he DIDN'T lie, only that it has not yet been established as a FACT.

But hey, I can always rely on you, LABF, and the rest of the lynch mob to misrepresent and distort, can't I?

I thought you'd enjoy that. :rofl:

[The Lone Bolt]

I thought you'd enjoy that. :rofl:

"You are a bad man! A very VERY bad man!"

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;)

[Rigs11]

I recall Dman thumping on his chest about Bush not being aware of the intell.
Newsflash: Bush is, and always will be a LYING SACK OF DUNG!

That's all these yahoos have left. It's either "I didn't ask" or "I don't recall".I'm gonna try that next time I get pulled over for speeding and see what happens.I wonder if the prisoners at guantanamo can use this as well when they are getting tortured?

[Hotrod]

That's all these yahoos have left. It's either "I didn't ask" or "I don't recall".I'm gonna try that next time I get pulled over for speeding and see what happens.I wonder if the prisoners at guantanamo can use this as well when they are getting tortured?

they are not getting tortoured.

[baja]

That's right hell I water board myself for fun

[Hotrod]

That's right hell I water board myself for fun

LOL thats the spirit

[Rohirrim]

Who was that Senator who yesterday said, "It's no different than doing the back stroke?" Ha!

[Hotrod]

Who was that Senator who yesterday said, "It's no different than doing the back stroke?" Ha!

LOL please Please tell me your joking

[Bronco Bob]

LOL please Please tell me your joking

Senator: Some forms of waterboarding 'like swimming, freestyle, backstroke'


Sen. Kit Bond of Missouri is the ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee, which has been pressing CIA Director Michael Hayden on the destruction of videotapes that reportedly show terror suspects being waterboarded. Last night, he appeared on PBS' NewsHour with Jim Lehrer to talk about Hayden's recent committee testimony -- and he was asked about the controversial interrogation technique that critics say is torture.

"What the CIA is doing is not torture. It conforms to the Detainee Treatment Act, the Geneva Convention, the Convention against Torture. None of these things that are being used, by any stretch of the imagination, could be described as torture," Bond told interviewer Gwen Ifill.

Following up, Ifill asked Bond directly if waterboarding was torture. Bond responded by equating some forms of the technique to swimming.

"There are different ways of doing it. It's like swimming, freestyle, backstroke. The waterboarding could be used almost to define some of the techniques that our trainees are put through, but that's beside the point. It's not being used," Bond said. However, he went on to say that he "certainly would not favor it in any circumstance."

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/12/senator-some-fo.html

[Hotrod]

how do some of these people get elected???

[Bronco Bob]

how do some of these people get elected???

Keep in mind he is from the mullet head state. :rofl:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Are you dense?

What part of: "In the initial White House press conference, National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley said the president was made aware of what intelligence was saying in August. That would imply that, for months, the White House knowingly made false statements to the American people about Iran. Yet, in his press conference the following day, Bush said that he didn't know what the NIE said until just last week. Which is it?" do you NOT understand.

Or are you a WH plant!

But, but, but...it can't be true unless the reporter has an advanced degree in political science! ;)

[Spider]

:rofl: :rofl:

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:laugh:

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Bill Maher: Traitors don't get to question my patriotism

(Warning: NOT work safe.)

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Wow!

Bill puts the smackdown on the bush crime family. :thumbsup:

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