View Full Version : Marshall has that thousand-yard stare
dragondawg
12-08-2007, 11:25 AM
By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News
As Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall nudges closer to his first 1,000-yard season as a pro - he needs 86 yards - the team's dean of the 1,000-yard receiving season is hoping for more.
"It's truly up to him," said Rod Smith, who holds virtually all the team's receiving records, including having eight 1,000- yard seasons. "A thousand yards? In this league. that is truly one of those things - the four-digit mark is a big deal, it's always going to be a big deal.
"For him, the sky's the limit, I really think he should hit that, as long as he stays healthy. He's going to get better and he's got to want to get better, build on that."
Marshall leads the team in catches (65) by a margin of 26, in yards receiving (914) by a margin of 300 and is tied for the team lead in touchdown receptions, with four.
Marshall, in his second NFL season, had his only 1,000-yard season in college as a senior at Central Florida, finishing with 1,195 yards.
"The way I look at it, 16 games, that's not very much a game to hit 1,000," Marshall said. "If it was 1,500, then I'd be ready to say it was something. I know a thousand yards is definitely an accomplishment, but I'm hoping for bigger and better things."
Asked what those things would be, Marshall said, "You know, 1,300, 1,500, winning a lot of games, going to the playoffs, those type of things."
"I'm proud and happy for him, but it's about being healthy and being consistent," Smith said. "I'll tell him to dwell on it for a minute and then do what he has to do to make it better. You don't want to be a guy with a thousand yards one season and 300 the next, when you were healthy the whole year. You don't want to be that guy."
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2007/dec/08/marshall-has-that-thousand-yard-stare/
elsid13
12-08-2007, 11:35 AM
There was nice piece in ESPN mag about Marshall. Couple of nuggets about him - 1. Culter and Marshall sit side by side in film room and critic each other play and ask each other what the want other to do in certain play calls. 2 Culter on Marshall last season he would work hard on 2 plays and get lazy on the third, not this season work his butt any time on the field. 3 Marshall still pissed that he was 4th rounder 5. On TD pass in the Titan game he and Culter changed the call on the fly because (it supposed to be WR screen went to GO route) of the defense creeping in and knowing what the play call was.
theAPAOps5
12-08-2007, 11:46 AM
Marshall is an All-Pro in the making. He can't be tackled solo, he makes plays happen, and he BLOCKS his ass off for other WR's and RB's. People will knock him for his off field issues but I have a feeling those will dissappear as well.
Inkana7
12-08-2007, 12:28 PM
Rod's stats through his first 26 Games: 22 Catches, 389 Yards, 3 TDs
Brandon's stats through his first 27 games: 85 Catches, 1,223 Yards, 6 TDs
If he keeps working hard and keeps out of trouble, he could easily own every single Broncos recieving record.
Dukes
12-08-2007, 12:34 PM
They must sign him, Sheffler and Elvis long term. No question about it
Bronco LB 59
12-08-2007, 12:45 PM
And Beantown Bronco said Brandon Marshall was not one of the top 7 WRs in the AFC:kiddingme
Wes Mantooth
12-08-2007, 01:03 PM
Rod's stats through his first 26 Games: 22 Catches, 389 Yards, 3 TDs
Brandon's stats through his first 27 games: 85 Catches, 1,223 Yards, 6 TDs
If he keeps working hard and keeps out of trouble, he could easily own every single Broncos recieving record.
SLOW down there tex. Rod's stats through carreer are all that matter here. You need way more facts to support your argument.
Inkana7
12-08-2007, 01:12 PM
SLOW down there tex. Rod's stats through carreer are all that matter here. You need way more facts to support your argument.
I never said he will, I said he could. He's off to a much better start than Rod was, which helps a lot. I'm not saying he's better than Rod. Calm down.
2KBack
12-08-2007, 01:44 PM
I never said he will, I said he could. He's off to a much better start than Rod was...
yeah, so was Ashley Lelie
B-Marsh has only gone over 100 yards once this year.
He needs step up Sunday and have a big day against the Chef's.
When Javon went down, with the knee, I thought B-Marsh would pick up his game.
But it's been Stoke that has taken on the favorite target of Jay-C and Marsh, while having a big play here and there, still seems to be content playing second.
Beantown Bronco
12-08-2007, 02:40 PM
And Beantown Bronco said Brandon Marshall was not one of the top 7 WRs in the AFC:kiddingme
When I made that statement, he clearly wasn't. No matter what criteria you used: receptions, yards, TDs, he was not in the top 7....
If you were grading on potential, fine. But you weren't. You said he was pro-bowl worthy base off the first 8 or so weeks. And he was clearly not there yet.
I was right, yet you are STILL neg repping me a month later for my opinion. Grow up and get over it.
Bronco LB 59
12-09-2007, 12:39 AM
When I made that statement, he clearly wasn't. No matter what criteria you used: receptions, yards, TDs, he was not in the top 7....
Now you are making stuff up to make yourself look good. Marshall was in the top 7 among AFC WRs in receiving yards at the time.
rovolution
12-09-2007, 01:12 AM
I never said he will, I said he could. He's off to a much better start than Rod was, which helps a lot. I'm not saying he's better than Rod. Calm down.
Rod was a UFA who was on the practice squad the year before playing gunner on ST just trying to get a shot on a team where Shannon Sharpe, Anthony Miller, and Ed McCaffrey caught the majority of the footballs.
No amazing physical gifts like Marshall, not alot of opportunities early on unlike Brandon.
Their situations are not even comparable IMO.
Dedhed
12-09-2007, 11:34 AM
Rod was a UFA who was on the practice squad the year before playing gunner on ST just trying to get a shot on a team where Shannon Sharpe, Anthony Miller, and Ed McCaffrey caught the majority of the footballs.
No amazing physical gifts like Marshall, not alot of opportunities early on unlike Brandon.
Their situations are not even comparable IMO.
Which all serves to prove Inkana's point that Marshall's ceiling is way above Rod's. And of course their situations are comparable. They're both wide receivers for the Broncos.
lod01
12-09-2007, 08:29 PM
yeah, so was Ashley Lelie
Lelie sucked and had no desire. he was a puss.
Now, will we have the Brandon Marshall snow throwing celebration in the weekly pics? Thanks in advance. I need that for my fantasy front page. :strong:
Hogan11
12-09-2007, 09:07 PM
Now, will we have the Brandon Marshall snow throwing celebration in the weekly pics? Thanks in advance. I need that for my fantasy front page. :strong:
Nothing like celebrating a 15 yrd unsportsman-like penality.
Inkana7
12-09-2007, 09:11 PM
Nothing like celebrating a 15 yrd unsportsman-like penality.
41-7. I liked the celebration, penalty or not. It's time this team has some fun.
BlaK-Argentina
12-09-2007, 09:13 PM
Nothing like celebrating a 15 yrd unsportsman-like penality.
That call was BS. He was having FUN. He wasn't even rubbing it in. I loved it. Marshall has FUN when he plays. That's what football is about.
This was the breakout game you were saying you wanted to see out of Jay and Marshall. Don't you have anything good to say about them? Today rocked! :yayaya:
Jay and Brandon are busting in out just in time for the offseason to come around.
24champ
12-09-2007, 09:22 PM
Today was a preview of 2008!
Just imagine if Walker comes back 100 %
Hogan11
12-09-2007, 09:24 PM
That call was BS. He was having FUN. He wasn't even rubbing it in. I loved it. Marshall has FUN when he plays. That's what football is about.
You might think it's fun, but it's against the rules and no matter how you, I or anyone else feels about it, it's incurring a 15 yrd. penality and there's no excuse for that in professional football....it just simply isn't being smart, period.
This was the breakout game you were saying you wanted to see out of Jay and Marshall. Don't you have anything good to say about them? Today rocked! :yayaya:
For Cutler surely. The Game against Tenn was a watershed moment for him and today was just a further progression...a career day, 4 TD's no INT's. It's great to see. Marshall is coming along, but the stupidity in iccuring those kinds of penalities is going to catch up to him sooner or later. I'm sure Shanahan didn't say "Oh that's okay Brandon, I know you're just having fun" when he got tagged for the 15 on the kickoff.
That was a bull shiit call more than a bone head play
Just imagine if Walker comes back 100 %
What if he doesn't though? We have to prep for that situation.
Inkana7
12-09-2007, 09:28 PM
That was a bull shiit call more than a bone head play
Exactly. TO can steal some guy's popcorn but Brandon can't have some fun in the snow?
BlaK-Argentina
12-09-2007, 09:33 PM
You might think it's fun, but it's against the rules and no matter how you, I or anyone else feels about it, it's incurring a 15 yrd. penality and there's no excuse for that in professional football....it just simply isn't being smart, period.
I didn't think it was worthy of a flag. Even the announcers said: "Let them have some fun". Had he picked up a flag and thrown it into the stands like the Ravens guy did, yeah, I would call that stupid... but this celebration was just a guy having fun. He looked like a kid out there, just playing. I see nothing wrong with that but I guess the No Fun League does.
He's already over 1000 yds with 6 TD's I think. Everyone sees that he's a star in the making and I just hope we lock him up long term. He's not selfish on the field, he jokes and encourages other players to have as much fun as he does on the field. He surely makes the team loosen up and relax. I really don't see any problem with him, and I'm sure his off field issues will be a distant memory from now on.
He's also THE most exciting player on the team. No disrespect to Jay, Elvis, and Champ.
Hogan11
12-09-2007, 09:34 PM
Exactly. TO can steal some guy's popcorn but Brandon can't have some fun in the snow?
They should've flagged TO as well. Consistancy is a big beef of mine when it comes to enforcing these type of penalities...they should be called everytime and across the board, no exceptions.
FWIW, I expect the rule to be swept under the rug in a season or two, along with the Emmitt Smith taking the helmet off thing....which never seems to be called anymore. These rules tend to ebb and flow.
Hogan11
12-09-2007, 09:42 PM
I didn't think it was worthy of a flag. Even the announcers said: "Let them have some fun". Had he picked up a flag and thrown it into the stands like the Ravens guy did, yeah, I would call that stupid... but this celebration was just a guy having fun. He looked like a kid out there, just playing. I see nothing wrong with that but I guess the No Fun League does.
He's already over 1000 yds with 6 TD's I think. Everyone sees that he's a star in the making and I just hope we lock him up long term. He's not selfish on the field, he jokes and encourages other players to have as much fun as he does on the field. He surely makes the team loosen up and relax. I really don't see any problem with him, and I'm sure his off field issues will be a distant memory from now on.
He's also THE most exciting player on the team. No disrespect to Jay, Elvis, and Champ.
He's a great talent, no question but again the incursion of stupid penalities like that one, whether the fans agree with them or not, hurts the team and it's simply not playing smart football or being a very smart football player. Personally, I'm hoping he grows out of such things, but if gets a taste of the marketing or the ESPN hype machine....I fear for the future.
elsid13
12-09-2007, 10:05 PM
There nothing wrong with showing emotion. That was BS call, he wasn't taunting and didn't stop the game. People need to remember it is a game and that there is joy in it.
Hogan11
12-09-2007, 10:16 PM
There nothing wrong with showing emotion. That was BS call, he wasn't taunting and didn't stop the game. People need to remember it is a game and that there is joy in it.
Incurring 15 yrd penalities is what's wrong with it...there's never any excuse for that. Players (and fans) need to accept the rules and adapt to them because whether we think they're bullshat or not, that's just the way things are in today's NFL and hurting the team because someone cannot control themselves or wants the spotlight must be recognized for what it is...a stupid mistake...one that costs the entire team 15 yrds that may or may not lead to costing the entire team a game at some point.
To condone such actions is to ignore that fact.
Incurring 15 yrd penalities is what's wrong with it...there's never any excuse for that. Players (and fans) need to accept the rules and adapt to them because whether we think they're bullshat or not, that's just the way things are in today's NFL and hurting the team because someone cannot control themselves or wants the spotlight must be recognized for what it is...a stupid mistake...one that costs the entire team 15 yrds that may or may not lead to costing the entire team a game at some point.
To condone such actions is to ignore that fact.
I bet it's not much fun to visit you at your house.
Hogan11
12-09-2007, 10:23 PM
I bet it's not much fun to visit you at your house.
Sure it is, but I'm smart enough to have fun without causing penalities to those around me or to the house at large. The cops never come to the door, so to speak.
elsid13
12-09-2007, 10:23 PM
Incurring 15 yrd penalities is what's wrong with it...there's never any excuse for that. Players (and fans) need to accept the rules and adapt to them because whether we think they're bullshat or not, that's just the way things are in today's NFL and hurting the team because someone cannot control themselves or wants the spotlight must be recognized for what it is...a stupid mistake...one that costs the entire team 15 yrds that mayor may not lead to costing the entire team a game at some point.
To condone such actions is to ignore that fact.
Then they should flag ever player that ever does the leap into the stand. It was the wrong call by the refs, and when they get the review they will be most likely be marked down by management at NFL HQ. And it not the freaking end of the world like you're making it out to be.
Plus if you asked the guys the in the locker room they wouldn't have problem with it. Marshall did nothing wrong, and wasn't looking for the spotlight. He was showing emotion and having fun. That not a bad thing, when you play a game for a living.
Sure it is, but I'm smart enough to have fun without causing penalities to those around me or to the house at large. The cops never come to the door, so to speak.
See I told ya, what fun is it if the cops don't even show up.
;D
Hogan11
12-09-2007, 10:33 PM
Then they should flag ever player that ever does the leap into the stand.
Yup, I agree...that's getting old and tired anyways.
It was the wrong call by the refs, and when they get the review they will be most likely be marked down by management at NFL HQ. And it not the freaking end of the world like you're making it out to be.
It was not the wrong call at all. An instance like that turned out not to be a big thing but it could. Again, they know what the rules are, why chance hurting your team with a 15 yarder because you refuse to control yourself when you score?
Plus if you asked the guys the in the locker room they wouldn't have problem with it. Marshall did nothing wrong, and wasn't looking for the spotlight. He was showing emotion and having fun. That not a bad thing, when you play a game for a living.
The players, last I looked, don't make the rules. Marshall broke a rule and was flagged 15 yrds for it....I hardly think there will be a big investigation about it because, quite frankly, his doing so didn't seem to be questioned by anyone showing it as a highlight.
Hogan11
12-09-2007, 10:34 PM
See I told ya, what fun is it if the cops don't even show up.
;D
It's always better to fly well below the radar...especially when dealing with law enforcement. ;)
Polster60
12-09-2007, 10:35 PM
I remember seeing shanahan and Brandon talking on the side right after the play. Shanahan looked anything but mad, in fact it seemed that he was having a good laugh with him. Why should a player not show emotion during a game. Emotion creates energy and attitude, something this team has missed for much of the season.
I remember seeing shanahan and Brandon talking on the side right after the play. Shanahan looked anything but mad, in fact it seemed that he was having a good laugh with him. Why should a player not show emotion during a game. Emotion creates energy and attitude, something this team has missed for much of the season.
I think Shanny becomes a better players coach with every passing season.
lod01
12-09-2007, 10:56 PM
Nothing like celebrating a 15 yrd unsportsman-like penality.
The game was over. Marshall knew it, I knew it.....EVERYONE knew it. Herminator couldn't even dream of putting that many points on the board. I knew it was going to be a penalty as soon as he threw the snow. I also knew the game was won already and who cares about a 15 yard meaningless penalty.
So where's the damn picture???!!!!
Brandon Marshall: :strong:
Atwater His Ass
12-09-2007, 11:08 PM
People just continue to bag on Marshall for any little thing. wow.
So I wonder if this will be a career long thing for the Marshall haters, or if they'll grow a pair and move on.
I wonder if these are the same people that try to discredit Portis' skills because they don't care for his antics. It's pretty sad, actually.
Sassy
12-09-2007, 11:12 PM
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Sassy
12-09-2007, 11:13 PM
Cutler, Young power Broncos in rout of slumping Chiefs
Dec. 9, 2007
CBSSports.com wire reports
DENVER -- The Denver Broncos looked like kids playing in the snow, and Brandon Marshall even got flagged for it.
The second-year receiver caught two of Jay Cutler's career-high four touchdown passes as the Broncos manhandled the Kansas City Chiefs 41-7 Sunday, finally playing like the contender they fancied themselves after an offseason spending spree produced a roster that looked like a fantasy owner's dream.
After his first score, Marshall scooped up three handfuls of snow from the piles that had been pushed off the field before kickoff and flung it into the air.
"It was for all my family and friends in Florida," he explained. "They don't get to see snow much. I wanted to show them snow."
Yet, when the icy crystals floated down, they were accompanied by several yellow flags as the officiating crew assessed him a 15-yard unsportsmanlike penalty for "using props" to celebrate his score.
"I love the kid and I love his energy," safety John Lynch said. "But you throw the snow up one time you may get away with it, but three times, I don't know. I question, though, whether, that's a prop. It's natural -- snow comes from the sky."
And according to the NFL, it's supposed to stay on the ground once it has.
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"I hope they don't fine me, I can't afford it," Marshall said while donning a diamond-encrusted cross that glittered against his new black fur coat.
"I was surprised they called it a prop," Marshall added. "You've got to have fun sometimes. That's what it's all about. It's like I always said: This is like playing Pop Warner football and drinking Kool-Aid and eating Pop Tarts. That's what you have to do in the NFL."
Have fun. Enjoy the journey. Celebrate success. Rejoice whenever you can.
"You've got to go out and play this game with a passion and have fun," Lynch concurred. "It's obviously easy to do when you're up like that."
The Broncos (6-7) haven't had much to celebrate this season.
Maybe it was the opponent -- the Chiefs (4-9) have lost six in a row. Or the pressure being lifted -- the Broncos are two games behind San Diego in the AFC West with three to go.
Cutler completed 20 of 27 passes for 244 yards, no interceptions and a career-best passer rating of 141.0, Selvin Young rushed for a career-high 156 yards on 17 carries and Elvis Dumervil collected three sacks and forced a fumble that led to a touchdown.
"Too little, too late, I don't know," Cutler said. "We'll see what happens. We'll see how it all plays out. We're not looking at the playoffs, we're not looking at what San Diego does."
The Broncos started their biggest blowout in seven seasons with two quick touchdowns.
Brandon Stokley, who signed a three-year contract extension Friday, hauled in a 21-yard touchdown pass less than two minutes in and Travis Henry, who learned Tuesday he had successfully challenged a positive drug test that would have resulted in a yearlong ban from the NFL, punched it in from 1 yard out.
"The defense put our offense in a bad way," Chiefs coach Herm Edwards said. "Right now our strength, if we have a strength, is our defense. And you can't give up 14 points early in the first quarter of a football game and expect your offense to come out and start moving the ball. We've struggled all year scoring points."
The Chiefs went three-and-out eight times and had three turnovers.
"I'd hate to see rock bottom if this isn't rock bottom," Chiefs captain Jared Allen said.
On their only sustained drive, the Chiefs converted on fourth down three times before Tony Gonzalez caught Brodie Croyle's 15-yard touchdown pass that cut Denver's lead to 14-7.
Denver, which outgained Kansas City 453 yards to 129, including a 215-16 edge rushing, responded with the first of Marshall's two touchdown grabs, an 8-yard score he commemorated with the scoops of snow.
His second TD was a 13-yard catch in the third quarter that made it 41-7. This time, the snow and the flags stayed put.
"I ran over there like I was going to pick it up but then jumped in the stands," said Marshall, who caught 10 passes for 115 yards. "I came out today saying I was going to have fun -- run around and have fun, no matter the outcome."
His second score was set up by Dumervil's sack and strip of Croyle, whose fumble was recovered by Denver's Tim Crowder at the Kansas City 17.
"It's a shame that we couldn't start from Week 1 with this type of explosiveness," Marshall said. "But everybody has their days and everybody has their seasons. So, hopefully we can keep this thing going and sneak into that playoff hunt. If not, we'll just take our momentum into the next season."
Ratboy
12-09-2007, 11:18 PM
Hogan, did Marshall steal your lunch money?
TheDave
12-09-2007, 11:18 PM
"I hope they don't fine me, I can't afford it," Marshall said while donning a diamond-encrusted cross that glittered against his new black fur coat.
Pat Bowlen needs to warn Marshall about the pitfalls of weary a fur coat...
Hogan11
12-09-2007, 11:20 PM
Hogan, did Marshall steal your lunch money?
No...his "fun" cost the team 15 yards. What's so f'n hard to understand about that? Oh well...he doesn't seem to care by that article, so why should we? ???
BroncoInferno
12-09-2007, 11:33 PM
No...his "fun" cost the team 15 yards. What's so f'n hard to understand about that? Oh well...he doesn't seem to care by that article, so why should we? ???
C'mon, Hogan...the issue is that penalty was not a good call. They called snow a "prop." That's just silly. Tossing snow in the air in front of the hometown crowd is not "unsportsman like" and it was just plain silly of the refs to flag him for that.
DB_champ24
12-10-2007, 12:10 AM
This guy is gonna be great he already puts up some nice numbers a real good blocker and great after the catch and has so much more potential
ScottXray
12-10-2007, 12:11 AM
No...his "fun" cost the team 15 yards. What's so f'n hard to understand about that? Oh well...he doesn't seem to care by that article, so why should we? ???
Oh jeez, Hogan...give it up already!
The game was over as far as the Chiefs were concerned, and the team needs MORE players like Marshall, not more accountants in football uniforms. Those accountant types have been around too much lately. I think the Refs were made to look like the asses they are sometimes, by throwing those flags.
24champ
12-10-2007, 12:12 AM
"I'd hate to see rock bottom if this isn't rock bottom," Chiefs captain Jared Allen said.
I smell a DUI coming...
youcandoit1687
12-10-2007, 12:22 AM
kickers and golfers PULLING grass and tossing it? 10K fine?
2KBack
12-10-2007, 12:52 AM
I agree with everything Marshall said in that article.
Ratboy
12-10-2007, 01:17 AM
Brandon Marshall needs 25 more catches to hit 100 for the season. Anyone think it will happen?
He's already had an impressive season, 100 catches would top it. I'm not sure why we're sitting on our hands and not inking him to a monster deal.
Bronco LB 59
12-10-2007, 02:14 AM
Brandon Marshall needs 25 more catches to hit 100 for the season. Anyone think it will happen?
He's already had an impressive season, 100 catches would top it. I'm not sure why we're sitting on our hands and not inking him to a monster deal.
The reception totals don't concern me so much. I would like to see him pad the receiving yards and touchdowns, though. 1300+ yards and double digit touchdowns would be a Pro Bowl type finish.
Flex Gunmetal
12-10-2007, 02:45 AM
Hogan, you are wrong. There is no common ground for these calls. (TO compared to BMarsh)
~Crash~
12-10-2007, 02:59 AM
They should've flagged TO as well. Consistancy is a big beef of mine when it comes to enforcing these type of penalities...they should be called everytime and across the board, no exceptions.
FWIW, I expect the rule to be swept under the rug in a season or two, along with the Emmitt Smith taking the helmet off thing....which never seems to be called anymore. These rules tend to ebb and flow.
this should NOT have been flaged it was not on the field of play !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BroncoDoug
12-10-2007, 03:05 AM
So why was the first one a penalty on the second one wasn't? Was it because he was on the sideline?...
Beantown Bronco
12-10-2007, 09:31 AM
Now you are making stuff up to make yourself look good. Marshall was in the top 7 among AFC WRs in receiving yards at the time.
Sorry, but he was 8th as of November 6th, when I made that post:
Are you serious? On drugs?
Marshall is currently 8th in the AFC in yards and 16th in TDs.
Top 6 or 7? What are you looking at?
lod01
12-10-2007, 09:44 AM
http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/football/nfl/img10521737.jpg
YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!
Thanks.
defenseman
12-10-2007, 09:57 AM
And Beantown Bronco said Brandon Marshall was not one of the top 7 WRs in the AFC:kiddingme
Beantown is wrong on that one. Marshall has all the tools to be incredibly successful in the NFL, as long as he keeps his head screwed on correctly, stays healthy, and doesn't get himself in any more trouble with the civil authorities.....dman
Beantown Bronco
12-10-2007, 10:15 AM
Marshall has all the tools to be incredibly successful in the NFL, as long as he keeps his head screwed on correctly, stays healthy, and doesn't get himself in any more trouble with the civil authorities.....dman
I agree with this statement. He does have all the tools to be successful and one of the top WRs in the AFC for a long time. That was not the debate. It was NEVER about his potential. It was about where he was statistically, over a month ago.
LB 52 is taking my "statement" out of context to try to make me look bad for whatever reason. Over a month ago, he stated that "Marshall is CLEARLY one of the top 6 or 7 WRs in the AFC and should go to the probowl this year, and NOBODY can argue this". He was basing that off his numbers after week 7 or week 8, when he was 8th in the AFC in yardage and 17 in TDs. I simply called him out on this.
He then, after looking at the numbers, even admitted that there were clearly 6 WRs ahead of him in every category, listed them, and then said there were two or three other WRs that were at least debatable beyond that.
I don't see where I was wrong.
Sure, now, a month later.....we could re-hash the debate to try to make me look bad. But the fact is, when I made that statement, Marshall was not ranked in the top 7 of any actual category.
I am not, nor have I ever, bagged on him. I think he is a clear playmaker and could easily be a top WR in the league if he stays hungry. I hope he does and wish him nothing but the best.
Hogan11
12-10-2007, 11:06 AM
Hogan, you are wrong. There is no common ground for these calls. (TO compared to BMarsh)
No I'm not. The rules are clearly stated and if anyone breaks them, they should be flagged, period, no exceptions.
Marshall, for all his ability, promise and potential has also shown a propensity for the self-promotional, marketing world that the TO's and the Chad Johnsons live to play for......which is fine for those who enjoy such things as long as it doesn't cost the team 15 yrd penalities. By that article, he doesn't seem to care all that much and that worries me. No matter, some people here have been absolutely dying for that brash, ESPN type of personality since Portis was shown the door and they may or may not have it in Marshall.....it all depends on how (if) the guy matures.
Be that as it may, he did have a very good day: 10 receptions for 115 yrds & 2 TD's marred only by a moment of stupidity. If people want to excuse that, fine but I want him to be better and smarter than that.