Maximus, Other Raider People... What's the Deal With JaMarcus? (McCown To Start...)

[RhymesayersDU]

Just read this on my fantasy site. I was under the impression this weekend was the big debut? Did something happen out in Raider land that I missed?

http://register.rtsports.com/php/news-public-story.php?ART=0700020644

McCown to start for Raiders against Broncos if Culpepper's quad doesn't heal
By JOSH DUBOW - AP Sports Writer
2007-11-30 17:06

ALAMEDA, Calif. (AP) -Quarterback Daunte Culpepper is questionable for the Raiders' game Sunday against the Broncos after missing practice Friday with a sore quadriceps.

Josh McCown took the majority of snaps with the first team Friday despite having two dislocated joints in his non-throwing, left pinky and would start against the Broncos if Culpepper can't.

Coach Lane Kiffin might not decide on a starter until Sunday morning, but did rule out the chance that No. 1 overall draft pick JaMarcus Russell would get the nod.

Russell has been getting extra work this week with Culpepper sidelined, but Kiffin said much of that was scheduled before the injury.

``There are some things we wanted to clean up with him and we've kept him out before to work on things,'' Kiffin said.

McCown began the season as the starter before spraining his foot in the third game against Cleveland. Culpepper started the next four games before McCown got the job back.

McCown struggled in losses to Houston and Chicago, completing 27 of 54 passes for 268 yards, four interceptions and one touchdown. McCown has been the target of Raiders fans all season, who would prefer Culpepper or Russell.

``I'm pumped to get out there, get out there and compete,'' McCown said. ``I'm looking forward to it. It'll be a good opportunity to go out there and play. It's always a great feeling.''

Culpepper started the previous two weeks, including last Sunday's 20-17 win at Kansas City. In two games, he completed 38 of 61 passes for 514 yards, one touchdown and one interception.

Kiffin also hadn't determined whether Russell could move up to the No. 2 quarterback spot this week. He has been the third quarterback in recent weeks, making it difficult to bring him in before the fourth quarter.

If Russell is the No. 2, he could make his debut this week as a reserve. Kiffin has said he would prefer to use the rookie that way at first to control the situations he encounters.

McCown said he expects that to happen some time soon.

``I think that obviously they've got to get him some reps,'' McCown said. ``I think it's a good way to let him get his feet wet and ease his way into it in a good environment and let him get ready to roll. At some point, he's going to have to take over.''

[Bronx33]

So RR is that beatdown still coming?

[Hotrod]

Can we say BUST Ha!

[RhymesayersDU]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3117335

Sources: Raiders target Dec. 2 as Russell's debut date
By Chris Mortensen
ESPN.com
Updated: November 18, 2007, 11:33 AM ET

The JaMarcus Russell era in Oakland likely will begin Dec. 2, sources told ESPN.

The Raiders have circled Dec. 2 vs. the Broncos as the likely starting debut for the 2007 No. 1 overall pick, team sources told ESPN.

Russell's "light came on" a couple of weeks ago, a source told ESPN.

Russell had a great week of practice, then weighed in at 259 on Friday after hovering in the 270s most of the season.

Unless Daunte Culpepper excels the next two weeks in starts against the Vikings and Chiefs, Russell likely will get all five starts in December.

Chris Mortensen covers the NFL for ESPN.com.

This was the story. Granted, there were no official quotes by Kiffin or anybody else, but for Mort to go as far as to guarantee a specific date, I figured it was pretty reliable.

[bronco militia]

it seems like MORT'S been wrong a lot lately....

that's too bad because he's one of the best.

[bfoflcommish]

Just read this on my fantasy site. I was under the impression this weekend was the big debut? Did something happen out in Raider land that I missed?

http://register.rtsports.com/php/news-public-story.php?ART=0700020644

They won a game!


If they lose against KC you can bet JR would have been playing, but they won A game now they stick with whats been working for the past week.

[Kaylore]

it seems like MORT'S been wrong a lot lately....

that's too bad because he's one of the best.

If Schefter breaks the news then it's legit. Schefter has pretty good sources in the Raiders.

[Garcia Bronco]

This is his red shirt year.

[cutthemdown]

It's simple really. By not playing Russell this year Kiffen gets another free pass next year. Think about it a bit. He can say first year was getting system in place and drafting the franchise qb. Second year will now be the throw away I was breaking in a new QB year. This way kiffen doesn't really have to win more then 9 games until his 3rd year.

[Doggcow]

Or Russell is a bust, lol

[chrisp]

Well it makes sense, with the season having gone into the tank, to start your new QB and give him some real-game experience at the end of the season.

However, you probably don't start that during Broncos week: the one game that fans will still expect you to try and win regardless of the record.

he probably decided to play Russell and then woke up and thought...if I do this the fans are gonna kill me! Can you imagine a rookie starting against us in this game?

The other thing of course is that it could be gamesmanship. We don't know whether to prepare for Culpepper or McKown as it is - throw Russell into the mix and we're supposedly very confused (except that I don't think we'll buy it for a minute!!)

[Paladin]

Hate to say it, but the parrallel to Cutler is interesting in the timing of his first game. Only there is a big difference; JR is no Cutler. I mean the dude was immatiure and out of shape at the combine. He may be in shape of sorts, but the maturity may be less than stalwart.......

[Maximus]

Kiffin is in a bad spot with this. Belpepper was slated to start but, the Quad is messing up his practice time. Russell would have probably been inserted if Bellpepper started screwing up the game... Therefore you have mcclown with a dislocated finger that broke the skin on his non-throwing hand. I think Russell is going to play but, kiffin is trying to relieve some of the pressure on the Rookie by being vague.

[Maximus]

Hate to say it, but the parrallel to Cutler is interesting in the timing of his first game. Only there is a big difference; JR is no Cutler. I mean the dude was immatiure and out of shape at the combine. He may be in shape of sorts, but the maturity may be less than stalwart.......

Thank God He's not cutler... All that poor footwork and bad to inconsistent mechanics would piss me off.... Second, he never intended to compete at the combine... nor did he... At his private workout, He was in the best shape of his football career. Now, as far as his maturity goes... How would you know?? You have nothing but jackass fan speculation. Every report on the kid shows that he's a hard working film studying QB who has accepted the fact that his hold prevented him from contributing to the team.

[Maximus]

Well it makes sense, with the season having gone into the tank, to start your new QB and give him some real-game experience at the end of the season.

However, you probably don't start that during Broncos week: the one game that fans will still expect you to try and win regardless of the record.

he probably decided to play Russell and then woke up and thought...if I do this the fans are gonna kill me! Can you imagine a rookie starting against us in this game?

The other thing of course is that it could be gamesmanship. We don't know whether to prepare for Culpepper or McKown as it is - throw Russell into the mix and we're supposedly very confused (except that I don't think we'll buy it for a minute!!)

Why not start him during mule week... I wouldn't put him in against a team with a super strong defense. The fact is... Dungver is one of the worst teams in the AFC.

[Bronx33]

Why not start him during mule week... I wouldn't put him in against a team with a super strong defense. The fact is... Dungver is one of the worst teams in the AFC.


Enjoy being beatin down by one of the worst teams in the league. :~ohyah!:

[RhymesayersDU]

Kiffin is in a bad spot with this. Belpepper was slated to start but, the Quad is messing up his practice time. Russell would have probably been inserted if Bellpepper started screwing up the game... Therefore you have mcclown with a dislocated finger that broke the skin on his non-throwing hand. I think Russell is going to play but, kiffin is trying to relieve some of the pressure on the Rookie by being vague.

Interesting. Like I said, I found it odd that Mort went so far as to pick a specific date for him to start. Usually when these guys just talk out of their ass, they say that "so-and-so is on the hot seat" or "the team is considering a shake-up" or such lines to be non-committal about the whole thing.

But hey, go McCown.

[Maximus]

If Schefter breaks the news then it's legit. Schefter has pretty good sources in the Raiders.

Schiesters source inside the Raiders now works for the Donks... Mike Leak information to the media Lombardi. Schiester's sources all left with lombardi... did you notice he made no statement about the supposed kiffin to Arkansas or Nebraska rumors!

[Maximus]

Enjoy being beatin down by one of the worst teams in the league. :~ohyah!:

You know Baghdad bob never showed up after he talked ****... I know you won't show up... You have a track record also!

[Bronx33]

You know Baghdad bob never showed up after he talked ****... I know you won't show up... You have a track record also!


Track record wtf are you talking about? and to top it off you and your lover keep altering my profile and acting like teenage kids real classy no wonder nobody goes there.

[cmhargrove]

Thank God He's not cutler... All that poor footwork and bad to inconsistent mechanics would piss me off.... Second, he never intended to compete at the combine... nor did he... At his private workout, He was in the best shape of his football career. Now, as far as his maturity goes... How would you know?? You have nothing but jackass fan speculation. Every report on the kid shows that he's a hard working film studying QB who has accepted the fact that his hold prevented him from contributing to the team.

Ask yourself a realistic question. When was the last time a #1 pick QB didn't see the field at all his first year? There is something else fishy going on here. Why can't the number one pick out compete an injured and mostly washed up Culpepper, and an injured backup (McCown)? The Raiders are truly a screwed up organization right now.

[Bronx33]

Ask yourself a realistic question. When was the last time a #1 pick QB didn't see the field at all his first year? There is something else fishy going on here. Why can't the number one pick out compete an injured and mostly washed up Culpepper, and an injured backup (McCown)? The Raiders are truly a screwed up organization right now.


Al Davis and his boney fingers.

[Maximus]

Track record wtf are you talking about? and to top it off you and your lover keep altering my profile and acting like teenage kids real classy no wonder nobody goes there.

There you go again... Crying like the Biatch that you are! Go **** yourself asshole!

[Maximus]

Ask yourself a realistic question. When was the last time a #1 pick QB didn't see the field at all his first year? There is something else fishy going on here. Why can't the number one pick out compete an injured and mostly washed up Culpepper, and an injured backup (McCown)? The Raiders are truly a screwed up organization right now.

You can make it into whatever you like. The kid missed all of training camp and a bunch of games into the season... It is exactly what it is... He's the future and there is no need to destroy his confidence and turn him into David Carr...

[Bronx33]

There you go again... Crying like the Biatch that you are! Go **** yourself a-hole!


LOL is that why you start threads on RKA crying about getting kicked out of chat on here and are stupid enough to say (I did it) ? Hilarious! i could just imagine what you and dillhole would be saying if taco was altering your profiles here, just STFU max you guys act like infants and you know it and we know it.

[Maximus]

LOL is that why you start threads on RKA crying about getting kicked out of chat on here and are stupid enough to say (I did it) ? Hilarious! i could just imagine what you and dillhole would be saying if taco was altering your profiles here, just STFU max you guys act like infants and you know it and we know it.

This is the last communication... ( Mistake communication carries the inference that information is received and understood on both ends ) I will have with you. Football thread... Nevermind... I have decided that you are a real life Lenny from Mice and Men... Have a nice life...

[Bronx33]

that's right just give up.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/3845/ryan30xi9.jpg

[Los Broncos]

that's right just give up.

Hilarious!

[Ugly Duck]

What's the Deal With JaMarcus?

Coach Kiffin has an interesting approach to coaching.... he doesn't let out any information that he is not required to. Kinda like maybe he thinks the opposition will at more of a disadvantage if they don't know which QB to gameplan against. Dood is very tightlipped about what he's gonna do - don't read much into the speculation that comes from people trying to figure out what he's up to.

[Paladin]

This is the last communication... ( Mistake communication carries the inference that information is received and understood on both ends ) I will have with you. Football thread... Nevermind... I have decided that you are a real life Lenny from Mice and Men... Have a nice life...

Promise you'll stay away from th9is site forever and ever?

Please say yes.....

[Ugly Duck]

Ask yourself a realistic question. When was the last time a #1 pick QB didn't see the field at all his first year? There is something else fishy going on here.

Carson Palmer just a coupla drafts back. Something "fishy" there as well?

[Maximus]

Promise you'll stay away from th9is site forever and ever?

Please say yes.....

Sorry to dash your dreams asshat... I was talking about cutting communications with Muleboy33

[Paladin]

You are an aarsehole, Max.....

[Ugly Duck]

Ask yourself a realistic question. When was the last time a #1 pick QB didn't see the field at all his first year?

Besides #1 Carson Palmer a few years ago, here's a couple more lower-round QBs that also benefitted from sitting out their rookie season:

Tom Brady....... Tony Romo

From ESPN today:

It seems the lengthy holdout that cost Oakland Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell an entire training camp just might be a blessing.

It's given him a chance to sit back and learn. It's given the Raiders a reason to take their time in acclimating him to life in the NFL. More than anything, it's limited the pressure on a high-profile rookie who will encounter plenty of scrutiny once he finally steps under center.

It really is impossible to argue against the Raiders' rationale in bringing Russell along slowly. Raiders head coach Lane Kiffin has maintained that Russell still isn't ready to enter a game, although it has been reported the former LSU star might get time Sunday at home against the Denver Broncos.

Whenever Russell does play, we safely can assume that he'll endure the same struggles that every new signal-caller faces.

He'll deal with mental errors, the breakneck pace of the pro game and the desire to prove why he was the first overall selection in this year's draft. What Russell won't have to worry about, however, is a substantial lack of preparation.

As talented as Russell is, he's needed time to grow into being an NFL quarterback. After all, Cincinnati's Carson Palmer benefited from sitting during his rookie season after he was the top pick in the 2003 draft. That circumstance also worked for unheralded quarterbacks who later developed into stars, including New England's Tom Brady and Dallas' Tony Romo.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=chadiha_jeffri&id=3136444

[TheDave]

Thank God He's not cutler... All that poor footwork and bad to inconsistent mechanics would piss me off....


LOL It is so much fun to watch Chokeland and KC fan trying to rip on Cutler...

Ummm...Ummm...But, But... Your guy has inconsistant footwork

Classic.

[Bronx33]

Sorry to dash your dreams asshat... I was talking about cutting communications with Muleboy33

Another example of (raider fan can't take) what she dishes out, so your taking your ball and going home? Hilarious!

[TheDave]

Another example of (raider fan can't take) what she dishes out, so your taking your ball and going home? Hilarious!

But, but, but... Cutler has poor footwork... So there. ROFL!

[Los Broncos]

Lets hear what they have to say about "poor footwork" after tomorrows game.

[TheDave]

Lets hear what they have to say about "poor footwork" after tomorrows game.

I'm not sure which will be more fun to watch...

Cutlers career or the or the constant crying from our division trolls...

[Los Broncos]

I'm not sure which will be more fun to watch...

Cutlers career or the or the constant crying from our division trolls...

Normally i don't talk smack before a game, especially against a division rival.

But screw it, we own the Raiders and will crush them tomorrow. :smashraid :believeit

[s0phr0syne]

Ugly Duck, I don't really care one way or the other, but citing Brady and Romo as examples of QBs that benefitted by sitting their first year(s) doesn't mean **** for your argument; they were low round picks/undrafted and "hypothetically" didn't carry the skillz that your boy Jamarcus should. Obviously Carson benefitted, and I think you could argue that Campbell did too (although he wasn't a 1st rounder).

[rovolution]

and I think you could argue that Campbell did too (although he wasn't a 1st rounder).

he was a first rounder. Skins took him with the 1st round pick we traded to them that year

[Bronx33]

But, but, but... Cutler has poor footwork... So there. ROFL!


Next comes the hair cut smack...;)

[Paladin]

Or the helmet over his eyes......

Which reminds me: Does Cutler's helmet ride low in front over his eyes? Why so low, I wonder? Sun?.....

As to the faiders' "critique" of Cutler, I have not heard such an outpouring of jealousy for a long time....

Question for faider fans, who are obvious "experts" on the mechanics of QBing: Romo throws sidearm. Why aren't more of his passes knocked down at the LOS?

[cutthemdown]

Fact is kiffen is holding him back to gain one more for sure as a head coach. It's the real reason and the only one that makes sense.

Raiders have been out of it since week 5 there is no reason to not play the rookie if you were a coach that was confident in your owner.

Since Kiffen realizes Davis is unstable and has partially lost his senses you want to hold back on Russell until next yr. Then when Oak sucks again next yr he can blame it on a first yr starter at QB.

Kiffen is being really smart by doing this. He probably buys himself an extra yr without having to win.

[Bronx33]

I have read that crazy AL was the one wanting culpepper to play from day one the situaition is just so odd and only crazy al messing with stuff makes sense with the crazy shyt that happens over at the bottomless pit. (This stuff has been going on for years) as we have all seen.

[Spider]

I have read that crazy AL was the one wanting culpepper to play from day one the situaition is just so odd and only crazy al messing with stuff makes sense with the crazy shyt that happens over at the bottomless pit. (This stuff has been going on for years) as we have all seen.

LOL , keep talking this way and Max will make fun of you and then ignore you ;D

[BlaK-Argentina]

In my flag football league, where 100+ people play, there's only one guy that has been in prison. He's an american, and guess what... yep, he's a Raiders fan.

True story. He looks a lot like that German in Saving Private Ryan, only fatter.

I don't know what my point is with this but... **** the Raiders. And their fans.

Love the Cutler has "bad footwork" comment. That's classic.

[Los Broncos]

In my flag football league, where 100+ people play, there's only one guy that has been in prison. He's an american, and guess what... yep, he's a Raiders fan.

True story. He looks a lot like that German in Saving Private Ryan, only fatter.

I don't know what my point is with this but... **** the Raiders. And their fans.

Love the Cutler has "bad footwork" comment. That's classic.

Ive been trying to get into a league for years, guess im to big.

[Spider]

In my flag football league, where 100+ people play, there's only one guy that has been in prison. He's an american, and guess what... yep, he's a Raiders fan.

True story. He looks a lot like that German in Saving Private Ryan, only fatter.

I don't know what my point is with this but... **** the Raiders. And their fans.

Love the Cutler has "bad footwork" comment. That's classic.

No need to have a point when Bashing Raiders ;D
anything bad about them is good...
I had a neighbor a few years back , He was a raiders fan , I used to go out late night and slightly adjust his Satellite Dish for him .......... ;D

[Northman]

No need to have a point when Bashing Raiders ;D
anything bad about them is good


Did someone say Raiders Suck? Ha!

[Spider]

Did someone say Raiders Suck? Ha!

LOL Like Paris Hilton in front of a Camera

[Northman]

LOL Like Paris Hilton in front of a Camera


:welcome: Hilarious!

[Bronx33]

No need to have a point when Bashing Raiders ;D
anything bad about them is good...
I had a neighbor a few years back , He was a raiders fan , I used to go out late night and slightly adjust his Satellite Dish for him .......... ;D



No truer words have been spoken..

[BlaK-Argentina]

Ive been trying to get into a league for years, guess im to big.

Too big? We lost to this team today, look at number 77:

http://www.aafa.net/modulo_imagenes//partidos/2007/14/2007_sem07_14_tit_min_001.jpg

[Los Broncos]

Too big? We lost to this team today, look at number 77:

http://www.aafa.net/modulo_imagenes//partidos/2007/14/2007_sem07_14_tit_min_001.jpg

I didn't know there was blocking in flag football.

I thought it was five on five, run as fast as you can.

[Bronx33]

RR quote from 2005:

Rival fans here's a tip for you, we got no problem with you here but if you win, win with a little class and don't make yourself look like a classless pos like these two have.

[BlaK-Argentina]

I didn't know there was blocking in flag football.

I thought it was five on five, run as fast as you can.

I don't know, we play 7 on 7 (used to be 9 on 9), with a center, a guard, and an eligible guard. (plus the QB, RB, and two WR's, of course)

There has to be a similar league somewhere for you.

BTW here's my team, number 73 is the Raiders fan. You wouldn't want to cross paths with him in a dark alley. Ha!

http://www.aafa.net/modulo_imagenes//partidos/2007/09/2007_sem05_09_gua-tem_001.jpg

[Los Broncos]

I don't know, we play 7 on 7 (used to be 9 on 9), with a center, a guard, and an eligible guard. (plus the QB, RB, and two WR's, of course)

There has to be a similar league somewhere for you.

BTW here's my team, number 73 is the Raiders fan. You wouldn't want to cross paths with him in a dark alley. Ha!

http://www.aafa.net/modulo_imagenes//partidos/2007/09/2007_sem05_09_gua-tem_001.jpg

If i was in shape id be pretty good.

[Ugly Duck]

Ugly Duck, I don't really care one way or the other, but citing Brady and Romo as examples of QBs that benefitted by sitting their first year(s) doesn't mean **** for your argument; they were low round picks/undrafted and "hypothetically" didn't carry the skillz that your boy Jamarcus should. Obviously Carson benefitted, and I think you could argue that Campbell did too (although he wasn't a 1st rounder).

Granted.

P.S. The dang thing sold out again! Thats 5 of 6 games selling out this year. Usta be I could just mosey on down to the stadium & get a seat from the Ticket Office on the way in. How come we aren't getting blackouts this season.... we're 3 & frikkin 8 & we suck! I'll just have to start getting tickets the regular way if we keep selling out the dang games....

[broncswin]

Maxi Puss won't get half of these because when we hurt his vag he puts us on ignore....just like a raider, give up!!

[Maximus]

Enjoy being beatin down by one of the worst teams in the league. :~ohyah!:

Come and get it! Care to talk about footwork??

http://tricons.com/NFLForum/images/EatCrow.gif

[Maximus]

But, but, but... Cutler has poor footwork... So there. ROFL!

Damn shame you aligned yourself with a dumb-ass like donk33 now eat your crow... Buerline talked about his poor mechanics, inconsistencies and poor footwork! Eat it! :rofl:

[wabbit]

Aren't you up a little past your bedtime??

I mean, the display window t-v shut off some time ago & the mission doesn't serve leftovers, and hey, someone might move into your Maytag box...I'd get back quick.

Just trying to help.

[Maximus]

Little vacation tomorrow... watching 24 getting ready for the new season released on disk tuesday... I don't watch it during the actual broadcast.

[Maximus]

Or the helmet over his eyes......

Which reminds me: Does Cutler's helmet ride low in front over his eyes? Why so low, I wonder? Sun?.....

As to the faiders' "critique" of Cutler, I have not heard such an outpouring of jealousy for a long time....

Question for faider fans, who are obvious "experts" on the mechanics of QBing: Romo throws sidearm. Why aren't more of his passes knocked down at the LOS?

Jealousy... that is a huge stretch. It’s truth mixed with sarcasm more than anything. The problem is your view is jaded when it comes to the donkeys. It’s easier to focus on the negative comments that we have made than it is to focus on the positive things I have said about cutler. You donkey fans want to elevate him to god like stature before he’s worthy. Cutler is a middle of the road QB at best he has a great chance of becoming a top tier qb in this league if he fixes the mechanics which gets to your question. Why are we experts in this field… Look at the sh*tty QB’s between Jim Plunkett and Rich Gannon… we have enough experience with bad Qbing to have insite.

Romo is much like Rich Gannon… There are a few things that made Gannon successful with side arm passes. The first is recognizing where your passing lanes are. If a QB doesn’t have a clue he will not position himself correctly to throw down the available passing lane. Romo knows where his lanes are and he positions himself with the proper “footwork” to make an accurate throw. So both Gannon and Romo have the ability to make side arm throws down the proper throwing lanes without getting balls batted down. The other component is the offensive line creating the lanes… but that’s a different story. We’re assuming that the Oline is doing their job for argument sake.

Now as far as Cutler is concerned… He has terrible footwork combined with an inconsistent throwing motion. Thus, he throws high because he’s throwing off his back foot. He sails some balls because he doesn’t follow through or step on the balls of his front foot. Sometimes a ball will hit the ground because it was thrown with all arm. I know this Russell played 2 series and his Mechanics are light years ahead of Cutler… of course you’ll think I’m biased because I’m a Raider fan but… I expect that from mulefans… I’ll tell you I told you so after Jaws or some media pundit bashes cutler for poor throwing. I have been saying it from the beginning.

[Jens1893]

Little vacation tomorrow... watching 24 getting ready for the new season released on disk tuesday... I don't watch it during the actual broadcast.

Prepare to be disappointed. The last season sucked balls.

[Maximus]

Prepare to be disappointed. The last season sucked balls.

Really... Damn... I guess I'll see... thanks for the warning.

[Bronx33]

Come and get it! Care to talk about footwork??

http://tricons.com/NFLForum/images/EatCrow.gif

Nice! do crows have white meat in them?

[TheDave]

Now as far as Cutler is concerned… He has terrible footwork combined with an inconsistent throwing motion. Thus, he throws high because he’s throwing off his back foot. He sails some balls because he doesn’t follow through or step on the balls of his front foot. Sometimes a ball will hit the ground because it was thrown with all arm. I know this Russell played 2 series and his Mechanics are light years ahead of Cutler… of course you’ll think I’m biased because I’m a Raider fan but… I expect that from mulefans… I’ll tell you I told you so after Jaws or some media pundit bashes cutler for poor throwing. I have been saying it from the beginning.

The funny part is... you thnk we are disagreeing with you about cutlers footwork. We know his mechanics need work. The part we get a kick out of is that you an't find something a little better to bitch about.

[DBruleU]

Now as far as Cutler is concerned… He has terrible footwork combined with an inconsistent throwing motion. Thus, he throws high because he’s throwing off his back foot. He sails some balls because he doesn’t follow through or step on the balls of his front foot. Sometimes a ball will hit the ground because it was thrown with all arm. I know this Russell played 2 series and his Mechanics are light years ahead of Cutler… of course you’ll think I’m biased because I’m a Raider fan but… I expect that from mulefans… I’ll tell you I told you so after Jaws or some media pundit bashes cutler for poor throwing. I have been saying it from the beginning.

Light years? LOL ok....Jaws actually likes Cutler...

[Bronx33]

The funny part is... you thnk we are disagreeing with you about cutlers footwork. We know his mechanics need work. The part we get a kick out of is that you an't find something a little better to b**** about.



That's the way maxipad rolls (it's all hes got) but that don't stop him (HES A RAIDER FAN) talk first think later has been a raider fan creed for decades.. LOL

[TheDave]

That's the way maxipad rolls (it's all hes got) but that don't stop him (HES A RAIDER FAN) talk first think later has been a raider fan creed for decades.. LOL

Oh, I'm pretty familiar with Max... It's just fun to prod him. Kinda like poking at the animals at the zoo. ROFL!

[Xenos]

Really... Damn... I guess I'll see... thanks for the warning.

It really does. It's the worst season of the show and just made me want to give up on the show. I kept waiting for that redeeming story arc but it never came. I suspect it's because every cliche that occurred in the past seasons showed up in the 6th. The worst part is that the show would get away with something like that in the past by doing a good job in its execution. But not this season.

[Maximus]

It really does. It's the worst season of the show and just made me want to give up on the show. I kept waiting for that redeeming story arc but it never came. I suspect it's because every cliche that occurred in the past seasons showed up in the 6th. The worst part is that the show would get away with something like that in the past by doing a good job in its execution. But not this season.

Oooh boy... The debate of purchase begins 3 people 3 negative reviews :(

[Jens1893]

Oooh boy... The debate of purchase begins 3 people 3 negative reviews :(

There´s always Ebay if you don´t like it.

[Circle Orange]

In between plays, the coaches were tucking Jamarcus' man boobs back into his jersey. Those things do spill out when you don't wear a bra. :wiggle:

[Bronx33]

Now that raises a question why did kiffin bother putting in jammy only to yank him shortly after? is crazy alice making calls from the crypt? i just found it kinda odd.

[Ugly Duck]

Now as far as Cutler is concerned… He has terrible footwork combined with an inconsistent throwing motion. Thus, he throws high because he’s throwing off his back foot. He sails some balls because he doesn’t follow through or step on the balls of his front foot. Sometimes a ball will hit the ground because it was thrown with all arm.

Don't be too tough on Cutler he does have more TDs than INTs this season. Thats a good thing. He has 13 TDs and 12 INTs for a 13/12 TD/INT ratio. Thats one (1) more TD than INT.... give the guy a break.