View Full Version : Cutler - a full 16 games (thoughts)
He's finally through 16 games and I for one really think he's doing a great job for us and his future looks very very good. I think I read he's had some of the best stats ever for a QB with only 16 games. The offense is getting better each week it seems. Still a few red zone issues but with your #1 center and your #1 WR and your #1 RB out with injury, they've done pretty darn good. Now we just need a defense that can get off the field and some special teams and we should be looking good.
Back to Cutler though - although the season is not looking so great, it's comforting to know that we have a young stud in the making at QB.
Bronco Billy
11-28-2007, 12:09 AM
Throw the stats away. Cutler's a leader with a phenomenal arm and good mobility. He proved his toughness in K.C. Watching him play with all the injuries to our team this year, it's hard to think that he's only been the starting QB for one full year now. He's extremely mature. There's some things he needs to work on still, like making the correct reads on LBs dropping into coverage. Overall, he's done great. We just need the W-L record to justify it.
rovolution
11-28-2007, 12:13 AM
Throw the stats away. Cutler's a leader with a phenomenal arm and good mobility. He proved his toughness in K.C. Watching him play with all the injuries to our team this year, it's hard to think that he's only been the starting QB for one full year now. He's extremely mature. There's some things he needs to work on still, like making the correct reads on LBs dropping into coverage. Overall, he's done great. We just need the W-L record to justify it.
One can attribute many of the L's to our crappy defense during Cutlers tenure so far.
If Jay had Albert Haynesworth, Vanden Bosh, and Keith Bullock, Cutlers record as a starter would be incredible.
broncofan4life
11-28-2007, 12:48 AM
I think he has done a great job just wait untill the game slows down for him and has a healthy o-line the future is very brite.
Los Broncos
11-28-2007, 12:49 AM
He won in KC on the first try, id say hes doing well.
Just read somewhere that only Dan Marino, of the greatest QBs of all time, had better stats after 16 games...it's all about continuing to develop though. So far Jay has been a baller
He's been doing an outstanding job. He seems like he has been getting better and better over recent weeks which is really nice but another thing I like is how he has handled himself during a season that has had its share of ups and downs.
Sassy
11-28-2007, 12:55 AM
He won in KC on the first try, id say hes doing well.
KC Sucks ;D
Los Broncos
11-28-2007, 12:58 AM
KC Sucks ;D
And? its tough to win there most of the time.
Sassy
11-28-2007, 01:03 AM
And? its tough to win there most of the time.
Yeah...I know.
I just felt like saying "KC Sucks"
Kind of like Blueflame and her "Raiders Suck" ;D :thumbsup:
Los Broncos
11-28-2007, 01:05 AM
Yeah...I know.
I just felt like saying "KC Sucks"
Kind of like Blueflame and her "Raiders Suck" ;D :thumbsup:
Yeah they both suck, its fun saying it.
Where are you watching the game this weekend?
Sassy
11-28-2007, 01:06 AM
Not sure. I haven't checked the schedule.
Los Broncos
11-28-2007, 01:08 AM
Not sure. I haven't checked the schedule.
Fox has the double header, so thats a wash.
SureShot
11-28-2007, 01:17 AM
275 437 62.9 3,385 7.7 22 15 29 178 89.3
Not bad.
The MVPlaya
11-28-2007, 01:47 AM
Get ready for the 2nd 16 games...
Bronco LB 59
11-28-2007, 01:53 AM
275 437 62.9 3,385 7.7 22 15 29 178 89.3
Not bad.
Simply amazing. I didn't think he was doing THAT good. WOW!
Kaylore
11-28-2007, 02:11 AM
I was going to start this thread (Curse you Zona!) but was going to wait until after the Raiders game. I'm sorry, but the Lions game doesn't count as a start as he only played like four snaps. I also wanted to compare him against the Raiders on the road after learning since his game against the Raiders at home earlier in the year. I felt it would allow for a more true before and after gauge.
DB_champ24
11-28-2007, 02:29 AM
I love how he plays..I feel confident every time he has the ball in his hands..He is already one of my favorite players and I see great things in the future from this guy
SureShot
11-28-2007, 02:52 AM
I was going to start this thread (Curse you Zona!) but was going to wait until after the Raiders game. I'm sorry, but the Lions game doesn't count as a start as he only played like four snaps. I also wanted to compare him against the Raiders on the road after learning since his game against the Raiders at home earlier in the year. I felt it would allow for a more true before and after gauge.
Regardless of the Lions game those numbers are crazy! Unbelievably the things that make him great cannot be defined by stats.
SoCalBronco
11-28-2007, 03:28 AM
Simply amazing. I didn't think he was doing THAT good. WOW!
At this rate, even ESPN will be all over our balls in like a year. This kid is going to...maybe almost singlehandedly, propel this franchise into an elite stratosphere in a relatively short period of time. He's just progressing at an astronomical rate. It's literally crazy, Chris. The ride is going to be so enjoyable. We were all robbed of this with Elway. There wasn't a good faith effort made to highlight his strengths and develop him properly and put him in a position to succeed and really unleash him until about 1993 and we were only able to witness the full uninhindered greatness in just a fleeting way, a few years. He should have owned every record.....been the first name always mentioned in a discussion of pure greatness at quarterback. We were all denied that.
We're not going to be denied it now. It's not going to be a short window. We're going to be like a little 12 yr. old kid that goes to Disneyland the first time and gets to ride on Space Mountain 15 straight times without waiting in line. It's going to be exhilirating and long lasting. Buckle up.
http://www.askthecommish.com/_images/Action/13.jpg
SureShot
11-28-2007, 03:31 AM
At this rate, even ESPN will be all over our balls in like a year. This kid is going to...maybe almost singlehandedly, propel this franchise into an elite stratosphere in a relatively short period of time. He's just progressing at an astronomical rate. It's literally crazy, Chris. The ride is going to be so enjoyable. We were all robbed of this with Elway. There wasn't a good faith effort made to highlight his strengths and develop him properly and put him in a position to succeed and really unleash him until about 1993 and we were only able to witness the full uninhindered greatness in just a fleeting way, a few years. He should have owned every record.....been the first name always mentioned in a discussion of pure greatness at quarterback. We were all denied that.
We're not going to be denied it now. It's not going to be a short window. We're going to be like a little 12 yr. old kid that goes to Disneyland the first time and gets to ride on Space Mountain 15 straight times without waiting in line. It's going to be exhilirating and long lasting. Buckle up.
Exactly.:strong:
broncocalijohn
11-28-2007, 03:36 AM
One can attribute many of the L's to our crappy defense during Cutlers tenure so far.
If Jay had Albert Haynesworth, Vanden Bosh, and Keith Bullock, Cutlers record as a starter would be incredible.
and for millions over the cap, we can have what you ordered.
SureShot
11-28-2007, 03:39 AM
His yard per attempt and completion percentage are mind boggling.
Kaylore
11-28-2007, 03:47 AM
His yard per attempt and completion percentage are mind boggling.
And of course third down completion and conversion percentage. He is one of the best third down quarterbacks in the NFL. Compare that to Jake Plummer who was the worst third down QB in the NFL. It's crazy to go from last to almost first in no time at all. We're a blessed Franchise.
At this rate, even ESPN will be all over our balls in like a year. This kid is going to...maybe almost singlehandedly, propel this franchise into an elite stratosphere in a relatively short period of time. He's just progressing at an astronomical rate.
Well ESPN will never get off of Brady's jock. Then they'll go back to Manning. Cutler will never get a lot of press because of where he lives. I don't care, though.
And you're right. Money QB's are what take a team into elite status. If your QB is awesome, the rest is a lot easier to put into place. Cutler is going to be one of the best ever at the rate he's going. I can only imagine what he'll be like after this offseason of breaking down tape and cleaning up his rough spots. One more offseason of letting Marshall, Scheffler, Stokely, the line and (hopefully) Walker to come together - It's going to be disgusting.
Bronco LB 59
11-28-2007, 04:41 AM
At this rate, even ESPN will be all over our balls in like a year. This kid is going to...maybe almost singlehandedly, propel this franchise into an elite stratosphere in a relatively short period of time. He's just progressing at an astronomical rate. It's literally crazy, Chris. The ride is going to be so enjoyable. We were all robbed of this with Elway. There wasn't a good faith effort made to highlight his strengths and develop him properly and put him in a position to succeed and really unleash him until about 1993 and we were only able to witness the full uninhindered greatness in just a fleeting way, a few years. He should have owned every record.....been the first name always mentioned in a discussion of pure greatness at quarterback. We were all denied that.
We're not going to be denied it now. It's not going to be a short window. We're going to be like a little 12 yr. old kid that goes to Disneyland the first time and gets to ride on Space Mountain 15 straight times without waiting in line. It's going to be exhilirating and long lasting. Buckle up.
http://www.askthecommish.com/_images/Action/13.jpg
Bravo! That's exactly the reason why I don't understand the doom and gloom from some posters here. The outcomes this year are irrelevant in the big picture. There was a lot to be excited about from watching the Bears game on Sunday. Broncos football is exciting once again. The offense is on the cusp of being an elite unit. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
fontaine
11-28-2007, 04:44 AM
I said it earlier in the season and I'll say it again, Cutler is a franchise QB.
Give this kid better pass protection (altho it is improving) and a better running game and we can forget about the offense for the next four/five years.
The only roadblock I see now is our front 7 on D.
Hogan11
11-28-2007, 05:10 AM
I seen the KC & Tenn games as watersheds for Cutler...he has come a very long way and he's still developing. A fully developed Cutler will be a monster QB..will it take another 16 games to get there? Less? More? Who really knows?
Sit back and enjoy the ride indeed.
DB_champ24
11-28-2007, 05:19 AM
At this rate, even ESPN will be all over our balls in like a year. This kid is going to...maybe almost singlehandedly, propel this franchise into an elite stratosphere in a relatively short period of time. He's just progressing at an astronomical rate. It's literally crazy, Chris. The ride is going to be so enjoyable. We were all robbed of this with Elway. There wasn't a good faith effort made to highlight his strengths and develop him properly and put him in a position to succeed and really unleash him until about 1993 and we were only able to witness the full uninhindered greatness in just a fleeting way, a few years. He should have owned every record.....been the first name always mentioned in a discussion of pure greatness at quarterback. We were all denied that.
We're not going to be denied it now. It's not going to be a short window. We're going to be like a little 12 yr. old kid that goes to Disneyland the first time and gets to ride on Space Mountain 15 straight times without waiting in line. It's going to be exhilirating and long lasting. Buckle up.
http://www.askthecommish.com/_images/Action/13.jpg
This is the second time Ive said this to one of your posts within the last 3 days and I couldnt agree more and I couldnt have said it any better!
ShutDownPoster
11-28-2007, 08:43 AM
Give him a 30 second pocket like Brady gets, you'd see the same, if not better production:thanku:
no-pseudo-fan
11-28-2007, 09:05 AM
Cutler to Marshall! Next Big Duo in the NFL. ESPN will not be able to ignore Cutler too much longer. Once he truly has his breakout, that's it.
I have been watching closely over the pass few games, and Cutler is becoming more acruate every game( The 1st half of the Bears game aside)
Northman
11-28-2007, 09:31 AM
Everything has gone the way i thought it has. He has struggled at times and done very well at times. The future looks bright for him and the Broncos.
SureShot
11-28-2007, 04:09 PM
Cutler to Marshall! Next Big Duo in the NFL. ESPN will not be able to ignore Cutler too much longer. Once he truly has his breakout, that's it.
I have been watching closely over the pass few games, and Cutler is becoming more acruate every game( The 1st half of the Bears game aside)
Yeah a rainy day in Chicago will do that to ya.
rovolution
11-28-2007, 04:27 PM
I love how many ignorant fans are pointing to the W-L records to justify Jake is better than Jay.
Those people are out of their damn minds.
Jesus Christ Jay Cutler. A New Era of Greatness has been born.
BlaK-Argentina
11-28-2007, 04:43 PM
I love how many ignorant fans are pointing to the W-L records to justify Jake is better than Jay.
Those people are out of their damn minds.
Jesus Christ Jay Cutler. A New Era of Greatness has been born.
WHO?? ???
I'm one of the biggest Jake fans, but there's no comparison here.
Cutler's going to be lights-out in another season or two....he's got the skills.
rovolution
11-28-2007, 04:53 PM
WHO?? ???
I'm one of the biggest Jake fans, but there's no comparison here.
Just read the comments section online in the RMN's article today about Jakes current life.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2007/nov/28/plummer-enjoys-life-after-nfl/
Go to the Broncomania boards and see the blind Jake supporters.
"Oh but his W-L record was better"
Maybe b/c that had something to do with Champ Bailey having one of the most incredible 2-year runs a defensive player has ever had, plus having basically two 1,000 yrd rushers.
Plus our Defense against the run was much better than it is now,
Paladin
11-28-2007, 05:09 PM
I am not one of those hereon that had anything whatsoever negative to say about the O. I think Cutler is going to be a great QB, an will be listed as one of the four or five better QBs in the league the next year or so (Manning, Brady, Palmer, Cutler and Ben. My assumption is that Favre will be gone, but he would be sixth in my list, although he's had a good year this year. The talent drops from there, IMHO. (Romo, Anderson, Brees, Rivers, Croyle, and Feedlebaum).
The accolades for Cutler will come when he wins the Trophy. Stats and last second and team wins are nice, but getting the trophy is the thing those swinging D**** understand. I think this young man has a great future in front of him.
BMF Bronco
11-28-2007, 05:10 PM
he sucks, cut him!
BMF Bronco
11-28-2007, 05:13 PM
of course I am kidding.
NYBronco
11-28-2007, 06:17 PM
I enjoy seeing the playbook being expanded. Some of those plays are really fun to watch.
Atlas
11-28-2007, 06:31 PM
I don't care what his record is. He is going to be a great QB. He has such a tremendous arm, intelligence and work ethic. He is going to the Hall of Fame if Shanny stays in Denver.He is the best QB of the last 3 or 4 drafts (next to Croyal of course) and Shanny is restocking the offense to score points. So I look for more points and wins next year as this offense gets a year of experience under their belts.
broncs2bowl
11-28-2007, 06:41 PM
Its been a while since Im actually exited to see a dropback pass instead of being nervous about it. That says it all as Cut is gonna be great.
The TD pass to Marshall last week was a perfect example of the maturing process of Jay Cutler. He had go routes on the outside and one deep safety in the middle of the field. When he drops back he freezes the FS and then at the last minute turns and launches one to Marshall. Had the same play been called in Week 2 I bet Cutler looks at Marshall the whole way and the FS either breaks up the pass or makes the tackle
Now if we can just score from the 3 on 1st/2nd and goal the offense would be golden
vailitaliano319
11-28-2007, 06:58 PM
Cutler is the man, appearing to be "top of the class" of the qb's in the '06 draft. Beat Leiart and Young, outplayed them in both games, he is going to be a big time baller once we get our line figured out...
but to be a devils advocate he has thrown at least one INT in every game he has played in (except Lions, but that doesnt count) and Titans...
CUTLER FOR PRESIDENT!
Borks147
11-28-2007, 08:49 PM
but to be a devils advocate he has thrown at least one INT in every game he has played in (except Lions, but that doesnt count) and Titans...
CUTLER FOR PRESIDENT!
He wouldn't have last week if Marshall hadn't slipped, it wasn't his fault
orinjkrush
11-28-2007, 09:11 PM
fortune will also play its role. one quick ACL and its gone
Bronx33
11-28-2007, 09:21 PM
As far as cutler is concerned barring any major injuries the kid is going to be great hes got all th tools a coach can build on, i see progression every game he seems to be getting more comfortable with being the QB.
Cito Pelon
11-28-2007, 09:56 PM
At this rate, even ESPN will be all over our balls in like a year. This kid is going to...maybe almost singlehandedly, propel this franchise into an elite stratosphere in a relatively short period of time. He's just progressing at an astronomical rate. It's literally crazy, Chris. The ride is going to be so enjoyable. We were all robbed of this with Elway. There wasn't a good faith effort made to highlight his strengths and develop him properly and put him in a position to succeed and really unleash him until about 1993 and we were only able to witness the full uninhindered greatness in just a fleeting way, a few years. He should have owned every record.....been the first name always mentioned in a discussion of pure greatness at quarterback. We were all denied that.
We're not going to be denied it now. It's not going to be a short window. We're going to be like a little 12 yr. old kid that goes to Disneyland the first time and gets to ride on Space Mountain 15 straight times without waiting in line. It's going to be exhilirating and long lasting. Buckle up.
http://www.askthecommish.com/_images/Action/13.jpg
Good Lord. Getting carried away there a bit, weren't you?
Rashomon
11-28-2007, 10:19 PM
I think what should encourage Bronco fans is how his play has improved every month. He is currently the 9th rated passer in the NFL, and his rating has improved every month this season.
By Month G Att Comp Pct Yds Avg Lng TD Int 1st 1st% 20+ Sck SckY Rate
November 4 85 53 62.4 714 8.4 68 5 2 30 35.3 8 6 36 98.8
October 3 99 66 66.7 744 7.5 35 4 3 41 41.4 8 5 39 89.8
September 4 116 75 64.7 926 8.0 49 4 5 48 41.4 13 5 18 82.8
http://www.nfl.com/players/jaycutler/gamesplits?id=CUT288111
It may have been last game or the game before but they showed Cutler's stats when he gets out of the pocket, they were frickin unreal, and when you consider he's been a rookie during that, it's even more unreal. Once we get some health and more talent on the line and another starting WR, Cutler's "pocket" stats should go up as well.
Kaylore
11-28-2007, 11:42 PM
I know it's hard to watch and most have probably deleted the game, but if you can, go back and watch the second half of the Bears game. Some of the throws Cutler makes are his best of the year and they were made in clutch situations in terrible conditions (road game, rain and mud). He's awesome.
Los Broncos
11-28-2007, 11:44 PM
Yeah, it was his best game to date in my opinion.
His throws were dead on, i cant get over that lazer he threw to Sheffler.
ro_50
11-28-2007, 11:46 PM
He has lived up and past the expectations for his first 16 games.
Those numbers are damn impressive, given how he started -- 11 games into last year -- and how he's played this year -- givne the injuries.
The kid is the present and future. He's going to be a Pro Bowler.
Los Broncos
11-28-2007, 11:52 PM
He has lived up and past the expectations for his first 16 games.
Those numbers are damn impressive, given how he started -- 11 games into last year -- and how he's played this year -- givne the injuries.
The kid is the present and future. He's going to be a Pro Bowler.
How many years will it take for him to be a pro bowler?
broncofan2438
11-28-2007, 11:59 PM
The kid is just amazing to watch. I have noticed that he sounds so much more intelligent about the game and how the success of his fellow teammates have helped him. His interviews show this. Hope he keeps it up and stays healthy
-Slap-
11-29-2007, 12:53 AM
Jay will have to crack the Brady/Manning/Palmer group to make a Pro Bowl. He'll also have Rothliesberger, and possibly Garrard, Derek Anderson and Schaub as annual competition as well.
Hogan11
11-29-2007, 12:56 AM
Good Lord. Getting carried away there a bit, weren't you?
There's a lot of that going on around here with a few young players...it's to be expected I guess in the face of a disappointing season thus far.
dragondawg
11-29-2007, 06:31 AM
the detriot game shouldn't count since he got knocked out early