Defense lost this game for us folks.

[fontaine]

Sitting on a 14 point lead and we made Rex Grossman look like Tom Brady and Adrian Peterson look like All Day AP.

How do you let three consecutive drives pile on the points?

There aren't words to express the ineptitude and douchebaggery of this D.

[Kaylore]

Special Teams certainly did their share.

[-Slap-]

Pretty ballsy comment when the special teams gives up a punt return for a touchdown, a kickoff return for a touchdown and a blocked punt to set up a touchdown. 21 mother****ing points on the special teams. That would be a terrible month and we did that in one afternoon.

[(Jae)]

I'm soooooooo FCKING done with this team. (this year)

I can take an asswhoooping (blowout loss), but not this foolishness.
Forgot being PC, get me a top 5 pick Shananhan.
Season is done.

[telluride]

Only one person is responsible for this loss: Shanny. He should be ashamed, but he's oblivious. As are his mindless supporters.

[obediah]

Defense? did you forget that your gawddamn piece of crap coach, mike shanapoop is the one that should get the blame for the loss. WHY DO THE PATRIOTS DOMMINATE AND KILL TEAMS,, THEY DONT QUIT! what did shanafag do? HE QUIT!!! run the ball???? the last two posessions when we could have scored again. FECK YOU AND YOUR DEFENSE LOST THE GAME!@!! I WANT SHANAHAN's HEAD ON A PIG POLE! AND PISS ON BOLEN TILL HE GETS RID OF THAT FECKING CANCER MIKE FAGAHAN!!!!!!! Start blaming who is really responsible otherwise stop wasting everyones time.



Obediah OUT!

[fdf]

Sitting on a 14 point lead and we made Rex Grossman look like Tom Brady and Adrian Peterson look like All Day AP.

How do you let three consecutive drives pile on the points?

There aren't words to express the ineptitude and douchebaggery of this D.

Actually, it was a team effort. Everyone chipped in.

[ward63]

I don't know how you choke that game away. Put the D*MN game away!!! Get another first down or just don't kick it to the best returner ever. your choice Shanny!!!! Is anybody else as pissed as me right now?

[Broncoman13]

The D gave up 6 points in the first 52 minutes of the game. Chalk this one up to poor coaching.

How you kick to Hester is beyond me. The teams that are stupid enough to kick to him are the ones that get burned. We just put our names in that hat and agreed we're a bunch of "dummies".

The defense played great for the first 45 minutes or so. We took our foot off the pedal on offense and let up on defense. ST's was a joke all day.

We let one slip away folks. This was a game we should have won and if we play it again we win going away.

It's not back to the drawing boards though, we're a game out of first in our own division and the next few games look very winnable. I'm pissed but not too concerned right now. Find a way into the playoffs and get the young guys some experience.

I love what I see in the youth of this team. Cutler, Hall, Young, Marshall, Scheff, Hamzah, hell even Paymah at this point... plus all the young Olinemen! We're going to be good for a long time, we just need to learn to stick our pride in our pockets and play smart football. We kicked to Dante Hall in his prime and now we're kicking to Hester in his... the only common denominator is Mike Shanahan. He'll take the blame with our young guns set the world on fire and score 30 per game in 08... he's got to take the blame now for kicking to Hester!

[Hoosier Bronco]

On Denver's last drive, that was some up of the worst play calling I have seen. All we need is maybe 2 more first downs to put it out of reach. Don't play not to lose, play to win. Why do we run, run, and then I don't know what they wanted to do on third down? The Bears had 8-9 guys on LOS. Why does Bly hand check on the 4th down play? So many big plays, but sooo many stupid f***ing plays.......it is tough to root for this team sometimes, and I have been a fan for over 20 years.

[Northman]

Yea, more on special teams than the Defense. 14 points off returns and 7 off the blocked punt. Totally ridiculous.

[-Slap-]

Defense? did you forget that your gawddamn piece of crap coach, mike shanapoop is the one that should get the blame for the loss. WHY DO THE PATRIOTS DOMMINATE AND KILL TEAMS,, THEY DONT QUIT! what did shanafag do? HE QUIT!!! run the ball???? the last two posessions when we could have scored again. FECK YOU AND YOUR DEFENSE LOST THE GAME!@!! I WANT SHANAHAN's HEAD ON A PIG POLE! AND PISS ON BOLEN TILL HE GETS RID OF THAT FECKING CANCER MIKE FAGAHAN!!!!!!! Start blaming who is really responsible otherwise stop wasting everyones time.



Obediah OUT!

LOL

[telluride]

We let one slip away folks. This was a game we should have won and if we play it again we win going away.


Not with Shanny on the sidelines.

[yerner]

defense was not bad. special teams lost it. that is all.

[orinjkrush]

STs.....year after year after year....just special olympians

D.....year after year after year....same old same old

suggests to me Shanny is not letting them succeed in some way.

[BowlenBall]

Defense? did you forget that your gawddamn piece of crap coach, mike shanapoop is the one that should get the blame for the loss. WHY DO THE PATRIOTS DOMMINATE AND KILL TEAMS,, THEY DONT QUIT! what did shanafag do? HE QUIT!!! run the ball???? the last two posessions when we could have scored again. FECK YOU AND YOUR DEFENSE LOST THE GAME!@!! I WANT SHANAHAN's HEAD ON A PIG POLE! AND PISS ON BOLEN TILL HE GETS RID OF THAT FECKING CANCER MIKE FAGAHAN!!!!!!! Start blaming who is really responsible otherwise stop wasting everyones time.



Obediah OUT!

Feel better now?

[CBF1]

Screw you all.... Shanny is the greatest thing since the invention of Electicity and none of you are REAL BRONCO fans.


I officially fire you as bronco fans for voicing your opinions.

[orange crusher]

The defense sure didn't play well towards the end, but IMO coaching lost this game. How in the world do you keep giving Hester chances? Have they not seen him do this numerous times against decent special teams units? We have not had good coverage teams all year and they roll the dice and kick to Hester - unbelievable!

[Atwater His Ass]

ST's lost this game.

[orangeatheist]

1.) Kicking to Hester

2.) Bly's penalty on a 4th down.

[fdf]

I'm soooooooo FCKING done with this team. (this year)

I can take an asswhoooping (blowout loss), but not this foolishness.
Forgot being PC, get me a top 5 pick Shananhan.
Season is done.

Nah. You'll be back. Broncos fans have been like battered women for the past several years. He keeps promising to do better. But he never does. And we just keep coming back.

[Popcorn Sutton]

For the record Shanahan did not want Sauerbrun to punt the ball right down the middle of the field to Hester so that cannot be blamed on the coach. I highly doubt he would have wanted the ball to be kicked right down the middle of the field to Hester either. Todd Sauerbrun and the Special Teams LOST THIS GAME!!! PERIOD!!!

[broncofan2438]

Defense sucks, I am embarrased. We needed TD and we did not get it. No one is stepping up and making plays on defense, and don;t give me this Elvis is awsome. Our pass defense sucks

[Spider]

Defense ? cut it to the bone , yeah , they had a chance to make some stops in over time ....
Special teams gave up 14 points and helped with the 3rd TD on blocked Kick ...
Offense ................. um yeah lack of power running in the redzone .....
but in the end it all boiled down to over time ,had to make the plays then and there no matter what unit was on the field ..came up short , blame who ever you want

[broncogary]

Actually, on the Bly penalty, I only saw the WR put out his right arm, I never saw Bly touch him, but they only showed the replay once.

[orange crusher]

For the record Shanahan did not want Sauerbrun to punt the ball right down the middle of the field to Hester so that cannot be blamed on the coach. I highly doubt he would have wanted the ball to be kicked right down the middle of the field to Hester either. Todd Sauerbrun and the Special Teams LOST THIS GAME!!! PERIOD!!!

How is it that you know this? Did you happen to be on the sidelines with the coaches? I don't believe for a minute that if the coaches wanted Sauerbrun to do anything other than kick it down the middle of the field, he would have.

[Paladin]

So many people were happy Sourbuns was re=signed. I was not. See what I mean?

Bly gets called for illegal contact on 4th down. Methinks there be hijinks.

Shanahan calls a lousy game plan, and I don't know why they can't scpore from five yards out.....

Best outcome? No playoffs this year.....

[Broncos4Life]

Sitting on a 14 point lead and we made Rex Grossman look like Tom Brady and Adrian Peterson look like All Day AP.

How do you let three consecutive drives pile on the points?

There aren't words to express the ineptitude and douchebaggery of this D.

**** are you smoking. It was all special teams!

[rbackfactory80]

The defense sucks, Special Teams played like morons, Shanahan got conservative with the game on the line. Next question.

[Sassy]

Screw you all.... Shanny is the greatest thing since the invention of Electicity and none of you are REAL BRONCO fans.


I officially fire you as bronco fans for voicing your opinions.

:thumbsup:

[obediah]

Feel better now?

Is shanny's head on a pig pole???

Nope dont feel any better yet.

Obediah

[chaz]

Only one person is responsible for this loss: Shanny. He should be ashamed, but he's oblivious. As are his mindless supporters.

go away...

[chaz]

Obediah OUT!

good.

[obediah]

you must not know anything about the military, that doesnt mean i leave, that means im done talking go ahead and speak.. stooopid...


Obediah OUT but not gone :P

[vailitaliano319]

On Denver's last drive, that was some up of the worst play calling I have seen. All we need is maybe 2 more first downs to put it out of reach. Don't play not to lose, play to win. Why do we run, run, and then I don't know what they wanted to do on third down? The Bears had 8-9 guys on LOS. Why does Bly hand check on the 4th down play? So many big plays, but sooo many stupid ****ing plays.......it is tough to root for this team sometimes, and I have been a fan for over 20 years.

Playing "not to lose" as opposed to "playing to win"
YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME... something that we have obviously not figured out

[Willynowei]

when your defense gives up less yards in regulation than the opposing kick returner gets in one half, i'm not sure its the weaklink.

Denver had so many turnovers i couldn't keep count, and the Special teams resulted in us giving up something like 21 points. That leaves 16 points on the defense who had to make do with an opposing offense that started most their drives inside our 40.

And how many turnovers did our defense force again? oh, I'm sorry, thats right four turnovers. When there's less than 4 minutes left on the clock and your defense forces a turnover (Crowder's FF) inside your opponents territory... thats the game right there. you get 2 first downs and a FG, the games over, you win by 17 points.

The defense just about lost us the game as much as the coin flip in OT did.

[Blueflame]

Know what? We might have trouble beating the '07 Miami Dolphins if our special teams spotted them 21 points.

Defense lost the game, my ass!

[chaz]

you must not know anything about the military, that doesnt mean i leave, that means im done talking go ahead and speak.. stooopid...


Obediah OUT but not gone :P

call it wishful thinking...Ha!


you don't need to be in the military to know how to talk on a walkie-talkie...

[Popcorn Sutton]

How is it that you know this? Did you happen to be on the sidelines with the coaches? I don't believe for a minute that if the coaches wanted Sauerbrun to do anything other than kick it down the middle of the field, he would have.

I saw Shanahan giving Sauerbrun a tongue lashing right after the play.

[Popcorn Sutton]

you must not know anything about the military, that doesnt mean i leave, that means im done talking go ahead and speak.. stooopid...


Obediah OUT but not gone :P

Apparently you don't know squat about football...

Brew Crew OUT.

[Popcorn Sutton]

Know what? We might have trouble beating the '07 Miami Dolphins if our special teams spotted them 21 points.

Defense lost the game, my ass!

Amen

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Did anyone else notice that we kicked the godamn ball to Hester? Anyone?

[Sassy]

Know what? We might have trouble beating the '07 Miami Dolphins if our special teams spotted them 21 points.

Defense lost the game, my ass!

POST OF THE HOUR! LOL!

This loss is on ST.

[Popps]

Know what? We might have trouble beating the '07 Miami Dolphins if our special teams spotted them 21 points.

Defense lost the game, my ass!

No, Blueflame... when you have a 14 point lead with 5 minutes left, a defense has to be able to protect that lead.

They couldn't, and we lost. Whether it was a scrub like Engleberger or a great player like Bailey getting beaten, they got beat.

They blew it, plain and simple.

[NFLBRONCO]

Iif we are that dumb to kick to Hester the best in the business you get what you deserve and we did. D blew 14 point lead to a lousy O team. Oh well that's they way it goes.

[Los Broncos]

Some people need to take a step back and breathe a little.

Dont go jumping off any high buildings, i know these games are frustrating to lose.

[Ugly Duck]

The defense sucks, Special Teams played like morons, Shanahan got conservative with the game on the line. Next question.

Third Down Efficiency: 1 for 12. Thats like 8%. That is suck also.

[Don Flamenco]

On that last touchdown, Grossman pumped and Bailey froze just for a split second. That goes back to what people on this board have been saying this season about Champ peeking to the quarterback too much and not paying enough attention to his man.

[Sassy]

Third Down Efficiency: 1 for 12. Thats like 8%. That is suck also.
Yep...especially when it's been like 70%...

[Fedaykin]

The D had only slighty more to do than me in losing that game. Idiotic special teams play (and not putting teams away) is the real problem.

[Bronx33]

Sitting on a 14 point lead and we made Rex Grossman look like Tom Brady and Adrian Peterson look like All Day AP.

How do you let three consecutive drives pile on the points?

There aren't words to express the ineptitude and douchebaggery of this D.


Your way off dude..

[Blueflame]

No, Blueflame... when you have a 14 point lead with 5 minutes left, a defense has to be able to protect that lead.

They couldn't, and we lost. Whether it was a scrub like Engleberger or a great player like Bailey getting beaten, they got beat.

They blew it, plain and simple.

The Bears would not have been within 14 points without the 3 gifts from Special Teams, Popps. Their offense was abysmal throughout the first three quarters of the game.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Blaming the defense???? Sure they didnt look amazing those last two drives, but i don't understand how anyone can blame this loss on anything other than special teams. They were awful. And quit blaming Shanahan, its not his fault either. enough already

[Sassy]

What pissed me off about our D was the penalty that Bly got that gave them a first down on what should have been a punt.

[Popps]

The Bears would not have been within 14 points without the 3 gifts from Special Teams, Popps. Their offense was abysmal throughout the first three quarters of the game.

Yea, but there's a huge gap in your logic.

Yes, our STs had a bad day and cost us dearly.

We STILL had a two TD lead late in the game. The STs had nothing to do with pissing that lead away.

Our STs playing poorly earlier in the game doesn't negate the fact that our D went belly-up at crunch time. But, that's an old, familiar story. I could name 10 times off the top of my head that our D has collapsed in big games like this.

[Blueflame]

Yea, but there's a huge gap in your logic.

Yes, our STs had a bad day and cost us dearly.

We STILL had a two TD lead late in the game. The STs had nothing to do with pissing that lead away.

Our STs playing poorly earlier in the game doesn't negate the fact that our D went belly-up at crunch time. But, that's an old, familiar story. I could name 10 times off the top of my head that our D has collapsed in big games like this.

... and in each of those 10 times you could mention, there was yet another factor involved besides the defense. Others in the chatroom can vouch that I mentioned this... would we (on offense) continue to play to win, or would we (with a 14-point lead) start to "play-not-to-lose"? The (correct) consensus of opinion was that we'd try to sit on the lead and run out the clock (play not to lose) rather than trying to increase our lead. And we failed to make the first down that would have sealed the win. It was every bit as predictable as the Broncos' typical pattern of going into the "prevent-you-from-winning" defense while trying to protect a lead late in games.

The bottom line is that the games last 60 minutes; we can't play for 45, 50, or 55... or until we get a 2-score lead... and then coast.

And Special Teams can't just give away 21 points to any team in this league and still expect to win. Sorry, but the prime scapegoat today (reason #1 why we lost the game) was Sauerbrun.

[fontaine]

Yeah the ST sucked too and I have no idea what Soubraun was thinking kicking the ball to Hester.

But the fact is we were up by 14 with 5 minutes left. Up by two TDs against an offense that couldn't convert a third down to save their lives.

Hester set the game up for the Bears but Grossman and the offense complete their last three drives into two TDs and what ended up being the game winning score.

[socalorado]

Man, i cant believe you guys are arguing over weather the D or the STs lost this game! they BOTH DID!!
Yes STs sucks sooooo bad
AND yes the Defense sucks bad as well!
Hey did any of you watch Foxworth just STANDING in the endzone when CHI was pushing the ball in for the tie? There was this HUGE rugby pile pushing back and forth and i'm watching Bear after Bear running up and pushing into the pile, meanwhile Foxworth is just STANDING in the endzone 3 yards away WATCHING! he never even attempted to help.
Yeah, the defense sucks except for Abdullah, who ive never been big on, but he deserves some accolades for his effort. Everyone else, played their typical crap ball.
Also, Yes Shenanigans should be to blame for playing the usual
"i dont trust my team, cause i'm smarter than everyone else, so i'll just try and run the clock out with 10 freakin minutes to go" crap.
Typical Shenanigans.
Its so funny but at the beginging of the year after all the acuisitions and trades, everyone said their biggest concern was only with Cutler and that he was soo young, BUT the reality is that our biggest concern now is with the Head Coach and his constant moronic decisions!!!

[Crushaholic]

Defense lost this game only to the extent that they allowed the Bears to march down the field in OT with relative ease. The Bears didn't do anything special in OT and the defense should have been better prepared to play in the extra period.

[TheReverend]

Yea, but there's a huge gap in your logic.

Yes, our STs had a bad day and cost us dearly.

We STILL had a two TD lead late in the game. The STs had nothing to do with pissing that lead away.

Our STs playing poorly earlier in the game doesn't negate the fact that our D went belly-up at crunch time. But, that's an old, familiar story. I could name 10 times off the top of my head that our D has collapsed in big games like this.

Really? I'd consider a blocked punt on the special teams.

[Broncomutt]

Everyone contributed to the loss. Don't think you can blame 1 guy or 1 unit.

Actually, I guess when the whole team melts down, you can blame 1 guy...the coach.

[Los Broncos]

What angered me was when Hazma tackled Rex then picked up the fumble and could of had a TD.

[Crushaholic]

What angered me was when Hazma tackled Rex then picked up the fumble and could of had a TD.

Yep. I thought you couldn't advance a fumble only if you fall on it. I could be wrong...

[Los Broncos]

Yep. I thought you couldn't advance a fumble only if you fall on it. I could be wrong...

I didn't think of that, but he could of ran it all the way back, thats the breaks.

[Domostick]

What angered me was when Hazma tackled Rex then picked up the fumble and could of had a TD.

The drive ended up in a TD anyway so it wouldn't have mattered.

[lex]

Yea, more on special teams than the Defense. 14 points off returns and 7 off the blocked punt. Totally ridiculous.

Really, the special teams netted 18 points. They gave up 3 TDs with the returns and block but they also came up with a Hester fumble that yielded 3 points for us.

[Beantown Bronco]

The drive ended up in a TD anyway so it wouldn't have mattered.

Incorrect. It was a 3 and out. That's 7 lost points there.

[fontaine]

I'm done with loss. For most of the game we were outplaying them until the ST choked and the DL stopped getting pressure on Grossman, late in the 4th/OT.

Time to move on.

[broncosteven]

There was no pressure from D for the last 7 min of the game. Elvis was brinigng it all game but was tired out and they double teamed him. We have no one else on D line to help him out.

On the TD that forced OT, champ looked like he was responsible for the whole west side of the end zone, he gave up on berrian(?) as he thought he was out of room and cut to mid of end zone to cover a drag.

Bates needs to ease up on champs responsibilities.

Abdula call was terrible but Shanny should not have kicked directly to Hester. Pure Arrogance.

[broncosteven]

Plus Duh bears moved from Power rush O to a spread in the last few minutes. REXMAN was able to read the cover 2 and thread the zone in OT.

I HATE THE COVER 2!

[Willynowei]

Yea, but there's a huge gap in your logic.

Yes, our STs had a bad day and cost us dearly.

We STILL had a two TD lead late in the game. The STs had nothing to do with pissing that lead away.

Our STs playing poorly earlier in the game doesn't negate the fact that our D went belly-up at crunch time. But, that's an old, familiar story. I could name 10 times off the top of my head that our D has collapsed in big games like this.

Popps you couldn't be further off.

We had a 14 point lead, they get the ball, and how many times did we stop them in the 4th quarter? They were trying to throw when Crowder forced the fumble on rex, thats the game right there. All we had to do is run out the clock.

Instead we go three and out, and get the punt blocked, so now the opposing offense who's already had 3 starting drives in our territory gets one more at our own 20. They score, and they start playing like its their superbowl, b/c it is. Our Defense is gassed and the offense still can't get a first down to run out the clock.

When you force 4 turnovers, and the defense allows 16 points against an average opponent starting position at midfield, thats a ****ing fantastic day for the defense. Period.

[Broncomutt]

For those that think our defense was "fantastic" yesterday, remember the Bears dropped a **** load of passes. I mean just flat out dropped wide open passes.

Our defense was lucky...for a time...and when it mattered most...they choked as always.

You guys seem surprised for some reason....

hmmm... ??? ??? hmmm...

[broncosteven]

For those that think our defense was "fantastic" yesterday, remember the Bears dropped a **** load of passes. I mean just flat out dropped wide open passes.

Our defense was lucky...for a time...and when it mattered most...they choked as always.

You guys seem surprised for some reason....

hmmm... ??? ??? hmmm...

Good point all DUH bear fans were calling for Olsen to be on field, when they finally put him out there he proceeded to drop 2 decent passes.

[fdf]

No, Blueflame... when you have a 14 point lead with 5 minutes left, a defense has to be able to protect that lead.

They couldn't, and we lost. Whether it was a scrub like Engleberger or a great player like Bailey getting beaten, they got beat.

They blew it, plain and simple.

Bears repeating over and over.

[Crushaholic]

Plus Duh bears moved from Power rush O to a spread in the last few minutes. REXMAN was able to read the cover 2 and thread the zone in OT.

I HATE THE COVER 2!

...and THAT will be the formula for beating the Broncos if Bates/Slowik doesn't make some changes, pronto...

[Punisher]

that bull**** call on Bly lost the game for us

[mhgaffney]

When you play not to lose you usually do.

[Maximus]

Yea, but there's a huge gap in your logic.

Yes, our STs had a bad day and cost us dearly.

We STILL had a two TD lead late in the game. The STs had nothing to do with pissing that lead away.

Our STs playing poorly earlier in the game doesn't negate the fact that our D went belly-up at crunch time. But, that's an old, familiar story. I could name 10 times off the top of my head that our D has collapsed in big games like this.

So, when the Bears blocked the punt it didn't count against special teams? And didn't hester indirectly cause that blocked punt because sourdonkey had to change his approach to kick away from the threat?

[Broncos4tw]

Huh? Special teams lost the game for us, that's it. Not defense, not offense, although coaching didn't help much imo. But 21 points can be attributed directly to the special teams. If special teams doesn't hose up the game entirely, they have 13 points.

Our special teams have been dismal all year, this being their worst outing yet. Defense and offense are not going to play perfectly the entire game, but they did well enough.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Yea, but there's a huge gap in your logic.

Yes, our STs had a bad day and cost us dearly.

We STILL had a two TD lead late in the game. The STs had nothing to do with pissing that lead away.

Our STs playing poorly earlier in the game doesn't negate the fact that our D went belly-up at crunch time. But, that's an old, familiar story. I could name 10 times off the top of my head that our D has collapsed in big games like this.

No doubt.

The annual mid-to-late season collapse has always centered around the opposing offense taking control of the game in the last couple of posessions. Whether its DJ getting burned by Grossman or Mobley missing a pick against the Dolphins, the D has been a deserving goat for a long time.