View Full Version : Denver needs to fire Shanahan and hire this guy!
Atlas
11-15-2007, 03:18 PM
I hear this guy might be available! Check out this resume!!
* One of four coaches who have spent at least 10 seasons with one team, and in that period have had more world championship seasons than losing campaigns: Paul Brown with Cleveland (17 seasons, three championships, one losing season, Hall of Fame member), Joe Gibbs' first stint with Washington (12 seasons, three championships, one losing season, Hall of Fame member), John Madden with Oakland (10 seasons, one championship, no losing seasons, Hall of Fame member),
* (11 seasons, two championships, one losing season).
* Posted the most wins in pro football history in a three-year period (46 in 1996-9.
* Won the most postseason games in history over a two-year period (seven, 1997-9.
* Been undefeated for three consecutive regular seasons (1996-9 at home, just the second team ever to be undefeated and untied at home in three consecutive years.
* In 2004, he joined the exclusive club of head coaches to post 100 wins in his first 10 seasons with one club, finishing the campaign and decade tied for fourth on this ultra-impressive list of 12 coaches, six of whom are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
With Vince Lombardi, Don Shula, Chuck Noll, Jimmy Johnson and Bill Belichick as the only six coaches to win back-to-back Super Bowls.
* He is the first coach in history to win two Super Bowl titles in his first four years coaching a team (Bill Belichick did it later winning two Super Bowls in his first four seasons in New England).
* Highest winning percentage in his teams history(.646).
* one of six coaches in pro football history to post four wins in one postseason along with Tom Flores, Joe Gibbs, Brian Billick, Bill Cowher and Tony Dungy.
* Only coach with seven postseason wins in a two-year period.
* The all-time high of 636 points in a season came from the 1994 World Champion San Francisco 49ers, for whom he was the offensive coordinator.
During his NFL career, has been a part of teams that have played in 10 Conference Championship Games, in addition to his six Super Bowl appearances, five with his current team and the Super Bowl XXIX game with San Francisco.
What are the odds Denver can get him?
I think I've seen this guy you speak of! :D
TheDave
11-15-2007, 03:21 PM
Now Mattbmvp (or whagtever the hell his name is) is gonna start with his yeah but what has he done since Elway...
Needa Pass Rush
11-15-2007, 03:22 PM
Atlas employing cunning and trickery. I like it. Ha! :notworthy :notworthy
DeuceOfClub
11-15-2007, 03:26 PM
"Hates Al Davis"
Garcia Bronco
11-15-2007, 03:27 PM
No Way....he just doesn't have what it takes...he's stale. LOL
orinjkrush
11-15-2007, 03:50 PM
i'm all for it. give evil shanny the boot and get the good one
rbackfactory80
11-15-2007, 03:56 PM
I would like to see Bill Belichick almost win a Super Bowl with Jake Plummer. At one point I was laughing my ass off cause he had me convinced that Plummer would win a championship before Manning.
I thought it was 2007, not 1997...
telluride
11-15-2007, 04:38 PM
Also known for awesomely bad drafting and free agent pick-ups. Thin-skinned, surrounds self only with cronies. Can be counted on to drop 2-3 games per season simply by not having team prepared. Brilliant at making excuses. Believes himself the smartest man in every room. A clever liar and obfuscator when it comes to the health of his team. Adept at creating a storied "15 play" list to start each game, then abysmal at making in-game adjustments. Prone to panicky firings of staff and players when season is not going well. A staunch advocate of his master "plan," which changes wildly every season. Enjoys the support of a small core of deluded fanboys, who tend to dismiss all valid criticism of his typically underperforming teams.
Hotrod
11-15-2007, 05:01 PM
I bet a coach like that would put us just "one or two players away year after year"
Ok I kid Im still on the Shanny wagon ;D
Willynowei
11-15-2007, 05:09 PM
Also known for awesomely bad drafting and free agent pick-ups. Thin-skinned, surrounds self only with cronies. Can be counted on to drop 2-3 games per season simply by not having team prepared. Brilliant at making excuses. Believes himself the smartest man in every room. A clever liar and obfuscator when it comes to the health of his team. Adept at creating a storied "15 play" list to start each game, then abysmal at making in-game adjustments. Prone to panicky firings of staff and players when season is not going well. A staunch advocate of his master "plan," which changes wildly every season. Enjoys the support of a small core of deluded fanboys, who tend to dismiss all valid criticism of his typically underperforming teams.
Yes. Awesomely bad drafting and Free agent pickups combined with a reputation for fielding ill-prepared, under-performing teams is obviously the recipe for being one of the winingest franchises in the salary cap era.
Criticisms are valid, as long as they are logical.
Broncomutt
11-15-2007, 05:23 PM
OMG those are awesome numbers!!
He has a really impressive resume and has done some things only elite coaches can do!!
I'd replace Shanny with this guy in a heartbeat....provided he's not burntout like Shanny is.
All you guys that keep talking about Shanny's past should give it a rest. Nobody with a brain will deny that he's done great things. Nor that he is capable of great things in the future.
Myself, I think Shanny and the Broncos have grown stale. I think we need new blood. If you disagree, I can respect that. I would hate to see Shanny go, but I think a parting would serve both parties interest.
But seriously, posting his past accomplishments doesn't address my PoV on the subject. It's not that I think Shanny can't coach. You could use that same logic to say Chuck Noll and Don Shula should still be coaching. Both have impressive resumes, right? Gibbs has an impressive resume as well, but things aren't so hot in DC. How come?
Now I know I can't prove he's burnt, and you can't prove he isn't. Just our opinions and we should stick with them til we feel otherwise.:welcome:
MechanicalBull
11-15-2007, 05:24 PM
Atlas I think you are right, Denver should hire Herm Edwards. Wasn't that the guy you were talking about? ROFL!
I always say to people around here besides one or two coaches there really isn't anyone else that I would want instead of Shanahan. Everyone in the media says he won because he had Elway and TD. How was Bill in Cleveland before he got Tom Brady? or any other superbowl winning coach without their star players. Plus this guy took a Jake Plummer led team and beat the all mighty Pats in the playoffs.
Paladin
11-15-2007, 05:39 PM
Also known for awesomely bad drafting and free agent pick-ups. Thin-skinned, surrounds self only with cronies. Can be counted on to drop 2-3 games per season simply by not having team prepared. Brilliant at making excuses. Believes himself the smartest man in every room. A clever liar and obfuscator when it comes to the health of his team. Adept at creating a storied "15 play" list to start each game, then abysmal at making in-game adjustments. Prone to panicky firings of staff and players when season is not going well. A staunch advocate of his master "plan," which changes wildly every season. Enjoys the support of a small core of deluded fanboys, who tend to dismiss all valid criticism of his typically underperforming teams.
There's always one sorehead in teh bunch......
halfcreek
11-15-2007, 05:58 PM
Does one's head get sore if it is up one's arse?
Rohirrim
11-15-2007, 06:43 PM
Wow! Let's go get him. How is he on the draft? ;)
Atlas
11-15-2007, 06:46 PM
Wow! Let's go get him. How is he on the draft? ;)
Better than most. The last three years have been great.
I would like to see Bill Belichick almost win a Super Bowl with Jake Plummer. At one point I was laughing my ass off cause he had me convinced that Plummer would win a championship before Manning.
We didn't almost win a Super Bowl with Jake Plummer..... Almost would be making the big game and losing it, Jake never got us close in the AFC title game.
Let Shanny die of old age as the coach, Would not matter if he ever won another game, There would still be people here affixed to his anus. ROFL!
DBroncos4life
11-15-2007, 06:59 PM
Bill Callahan won't be doing anything in a few weeks.
Merlin
11-15-2007, 06:59 PM
Now I know I can't prove he's burnt, and you can't prove he isn't. Just our opinions and we should stick with them til we feel otherwise.:welcome:
Actually, anyone with half a brain knows that the individual making the (positive) claim must prove his or her case since the negative CANNOT be proven. But don't let the basics of simple logic disturb your insightful claims...carry on.
Wes Mantooth
11-15-2007, 07:02 PM
Wow, what a resume. I wish Bowlen would just man up, get rid of the turd of a coach we have now and go get him. He may be the very worst owner in the league. We need to fire him too. Mattmvp is soo smart.
Don Flamenco
11-15-2007, 07:05 PM
Now Mattbmvp (or whagtever the hell his name is) is gonna start with his yeah but what has he done since Elway...
What's he done since Plummer:ouwknow:
AboveAverage
11-15-2007, 07:07 PM
Let's try Wade Phillips first, and if he doesn't work out, we'll go with this guy.
theAPAOps5
11-15-2007, 07:08 PM
Now Mattbmvp (or whagtever the hell his name is) is gonna start with his yeah but what has he done since Elway...
Count Heav, Telluride, and BroncoSoja among the retarded as well.
And he did all this with one eye and one kidney
theAPAOps5
11-15-2007, 07:26 PM
Forgot a bracket in your sig Baja.
rbackfactory80
11-15-2007, 08:27 PM
We didn't almost win a Super Bowl with Jake Plummer..... Almost would be making the big game and losing it, Jake never got us close in the AFC title game.
Let Shanny die of old age as the coach, Would not matter if he ever won another game, There would still be people here affixed to his anus. ROFL!
Dude we were in the final four and the favorite. Give Shanahan 2 weeks to game plan for the Seahawks and he would have had ring number three. Even if it played out that way some knuckle heads would still be calling for his head.
Dr.5280
11-15-2007, 11:20 PM
Dude we were in the final four and the favorite. Give Shanahan 2 weeks to game plan for the Seahawks and he would have had ring number three. Even if it played out that way some knuckle heads would still be calling for his head.
Boot leg left; boot leg right. Throw an interception. Shawn Alexander runs wild. Thus began the downfall af the AFC. Give me a break. That team was nowhere near a Super Bowl winner.
Atlas
11-15-2007, 11:48 PM
Boot leg left; boot leg right. Throw an interception. Shawn Alexander runs wild. Thus began the downfall af the AFC. Give me a break. That team was nowhere near a Super Bowl winner.
Denver was favored to beat Pittsburgh and they were favored to beat Seattle.
missingnumber7
11-16-2007, 03:19 AM
I think we should hire marty, then he'd only have to coach the raiders to be the first coach to coach every team in a division.
Sir Mawn
11-16-2007, 03:37 AM
Never mind we were in the AFC Championship Game 2 seasons ago.... ****ty coach......
rbackfactory80
11-16-2007, 06:06 AM
Boot leg left; boot leg right. Throw an interception. Shawn Alexander runs wild. Thus began the downfall af the AFC. Give me a break. That team was nowhere near a Super Bowl winner.
Oh yeah, Alexander runs wild on one of the Leagues best run defenses, makes a lot of sense.
TDmvp
11-16-2007, 07:17 AM
thread of the week...
Hotrod
11-16-2007, 10:38 AM
What's he done since Plummer:ouwknow:
LOL
Willynowei
11-16-2007, 11:22 AM
Boot leg left; boot leg right. Throw an interception. Shawn Alexander runs wild. Thus began the downfall af the AFC. Give me a break. That team was nowhere near a Super Bowl winner.
We would've raped Seattle. Denver historically rapes Seattle, even if you go to last year when we were doing horrible in the second half with a rookie qb on his first start throwing wild INTs, we still almost won that game.
Pitt stopped our pass rush and Big Ben was both on fire and very lucky. The fact was, that despite the obvious lack of pass rush the one other problem was that our players chocked.
Bailey drops a INT that would've been a TD the other way at game start. DJ dropped one INT, Gold or Wilson dropped another, Ferguson dropped another in our own endzone that would've taken the score.
That game was a hell of a lot closer than it seemed.
Broncomutt
11-16-2007, 12:16 PM
No doubt, Shanny is the best coach of sub-500 team there ever was.
:egbgb: :egbgb: :egbgb:
theAPAOps5
11-16-2007, 01:45 PM
No doubt, Shanny is the best coach of sub-500 team there ever was.
:egbgb: :egbgb: :egbgb:
Well since I am guessing you are one of those band wagon fans tell me how many sub .500 teams Shanny actually has had. Your post would be relevant at the end of a season but thats not the case.
Peoples Champ
11-16-2007, 02:51 PM
I bet a coach like that would put us just "one or two players away year after year"
Ok I kid Im still on the Shanny wagon ;D
We are all on the shanny wagon, all of us sane people, even the insane people love him, i ran into a crackhead in vegas at a sports book that says shannahan is the best in the buisness, although he was on crack and crazy, he still made me feel warm inside, shannahan should never be fired, there are at least ten idiot coaches in the NFL to every one shanny, he is one of top five coaches in nfl and the way I see it, if we get ride of him, the chances of getting another top five coach is slim
Broncomutt
11-16-2007, 02:58 PM
Well since I am guessing you are one of those band wagon fans tell me how many sub .500 teams Shanny actually has had. Your post would be relevant at the end of a season but thats not the case.
Not a band wagon fan. I truly believe he was the best coach of a team that finished 9-7 last year. In fact, I think we were the best 9-7 team in the history of the NFL.
:sunshine: :sunshine: :sunshine:
Peoples Champ
11-16-2007, 03:13 PM
Not a band wagon fan. I truly believe he was the best coach of a team that finished 9-7 last year. In fact, I think we were the best 9-7 team in the history of the NFL.
:sunshine: :sunshine: :sunshine:
If you think of it, During the Shannahan ERA, most franchises have had ups and downs, yes even the colts and patriots, in the late 90s colts were embarrasing and sometimes even the worst team in nfl, and patriots have had their dark years as well in those periods, the bledsoe era, packers, steelers, all of them have had embarrasing years,
I agree with you, we are all complaining about 9-7 as a bad year and some teams see 9-7 as an unbelievable year, lets wait till were 1-15, or 2-14, or 3-13 till we start complaining, im not sure what shannys worst year was, i think it was 6-10, thats still not as bad as the colts or other teams have had
TomServo
11-16-2007, 04:30 PM
just like all the other giants, landry,shula,noll. shannys time to go will come sooner or later. i just hope for the sake of the broncos and fans,that he goes out like elway and not like the above coaches.
there is some young genius coach out there waiting to be discovered or made.
anyone wanting martyball or cowher is crazy. if we want a great season and one and out in the playoffs then marty is your coach. and cowher would be a good choice but the league already gave him a gift wrapped SB trophy. ok maybe not the league but the refs pretty much gave it to him.
BroncoSoja
11-16-2007, 04:46 PM
Also known for awesomely bad drafting and free agent pick-ups. Thin-skinned, surrounds self only with cronies. Can be counted on to drop 2-3 games per season simply by not having team prepared. Brilliant at making excuses. Believes himself the smartest man in every room. A clever liar and obfuscator when it comes to the health of his team. Adept at creating a storied "15 play" list to start each game, then abysmal at making in-game adjustments. Prone to panicky firings of staff and players when season is not going well. A staunch advocate of his master "plan," which changes wildly every season. Enjoys the support of a small core of deluded fanboys, who tend to dismiss all valid criticism of his typically underperforming teams.
Owned!
And I will just ask it agian, what has he done without the greatest QB in the game? The answer nothing. Hell atleast Dan Reeves as a head coach was able to take another team to the Superbowl without Elway, Shanny-hand was fired by the horrible Raiders in his other Head Coach stint.
Only thing Shanny-hand should be patted on the back for if you ask me is bringing Alex Gibbs and Bobby Turner to the Broncos.
BroncoSoja
11-16-2007, 04:49 PM
Never mind we were in the AFC Championship Game 2 seasons ago.... ****ty coach......
And never mind our Defense Basicly won the game for us to get there, since our Offensive guru and his offense were horrible and could not move the ball unless they were handed it to them by the Defense on the opponets 20.
theAPAOps5
11-16-2007, 04:56 PM
King Retard has graced this thread folks.
broncocalijohn
11-16-2007, 05:21 PM
Let's try Wade Phillips first, and if he doesn't work out, we'll go with this guy.
As long as we go get Charlie Waters then I am so for it. I loved 1992-1994 team wise.
Cito Pelon
11-16-2007, 05:59 PM
It's tough to say "Adios, Shanny." On the other hand, his O is stale. The big deal with Shanny's O is score fast before halftime. It's mostly smoke and mirrors after halftime. When they need 14 points in two consecutive drives in the second half, forget it. Not gonna happen.
Shanny's O is slow and stale unless he has a lead. Dude can't even get the play into the huddle fast when they're behind. You need a crisp pace on O when you're behind, and Shanny has failed at that. I've seen a little crisper pace on O lately, we'll see if it continues. I'll have to see what the rest of this season holds.
Cito Pelon
11-16-2007, 06:03 PM
And never mind our Defense Basicly won the game for us to get there, since our Offensive guru and his offense were horrible and could not move the ball unless they were handed it to them by the Defense on the opponets 20.
That was the +23 TO ratio season. Hard to lose that way.