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rovolution
11-14-2007, 11:46 AM
http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3750


Browns signed C Greg Eslinger off the Broncos' practice squad.
The athletic Eslinger was viewed as a decent prospect for zone blocking coming out of Minnesota in 2006, but wound up in NFL Europa this spring. He'll be low on the depth chart behind Hank Fraley and Lennie Friedman.

Billy Clyde Puckett
11-14-2007, 11:52 AM
Let the crying begin

bronco militia
11-14-2007, 11:54 AM
two offseasons and still on the practice squad......it was probably time to move on

Hotrod
11-14-2007, 11:56 AM
Its revenge for the whole brownco thing.

TheDave
11-14-2007, 12:01 PM
Its revenge for the whole brownco thing.

Brownco... I have no idea what you are talking about ;)

Houshyamama
11-14-2007, 12:29 PM
Its revenge for the whole brownco thing.

The way it all worked out with the Browncos, shouldn't we be the ones seeking revenge?

Dos Rios
11-14-2007, 12:40 PM
Browns have actually made some great moves on the o-line in the last couple years. Derek Anderson comes out of every game with a clean jersey. Don't know if Eslinger will ever make it, but this is a team who seems to have gotten its act together.

Preseason the Broncs had a logjam at center, with an All Pro stud in Nalen, Hamilton eager to slide over, and Myers and Eslinger being brought along. Now Nalen's nearing the end and Hamilton could conceivably be forced into early retirement from concussions. Myers could be the only center on the roster in training camp next year (and only Kuper/Holland at guard).

Interior o-line has gone from one of the deepest units to another area of offseason need in 3 months. Trading away all our picks to draft just 4 players this last year doesn't look real smart.

Traveler
11-14-2007, 01:03 PM
Trading away all our picks to draft just 4 players this last year doesn't look real smart.

In hindsight, alot of the things done this past offseason don't look real smart. Things could still work out. But the original "plan" for this season looks to be scrapped because of a muriad (sp?) of issues.

cmhargrove
11-14-2007, 01:09 PM
Browns have actually made some great moves on the o-line in the last couple years. Derek Anderson comes out of every game with a clean jersey. Don't know if Eslinger will ever make it, but this is a team who seems to have gotten its act together.

Preseason the Broncs had a logjam at center, with an All Pro stud in Nalen, Hamilton eager to slide over, and Myers and Eslinger being brought along. Now Nalen's nearing the end and Hamilton could conceivably be forced into early retirement from concussions. Myers could be the only center on the roster in training camp next year (and only Kuper/Holland at guard).

Interior o-line has gone from one of the deepest units to another area of offseason need in 3 months. Trading away all our picks to draft just 4 players this last year doesn't look real smart.

Remember, we had a very full roster and we thought it was loaded with talent. At the beginning of the season, we knew there would be some guys that might not even make the practice squad. The small draft was fine this year, I just wish we didn't have to trade away important picks for next year. That was the major bungle. However, the move up to get Marcus Thomas looks solid. We'll see about Jarvis. Crowder is solid. It will be interesting to see if Ryan Harris is in the mix next year since we will almost certainly need some help at OT.

I'm just glad we are noow at the "no job is safe" stage. That makes me hope will will have a better draft of "best player available" rather than reaching for needs.

chaz
11-14-2007, 01:37 PM
that's too bad...he had some real potential. ya, ya, ya he was still on the practice squad...who cares. he'll be good, he just needed time. this is a bummer

cutthemdown
11-14-2007, 01:55 PM
The way it all worked out with the Browncos, shouldn't we be the ones seeking revenge?

We just did by letting them have the worthlesslinger.

PRBronco
11-14-2007, 02:13 PM
Khaaaaaan!

I always thought we should use him as a short yardage blocking back. Good mobility, just no anchor, if i recall correctly?

bpc
11-14-2007, 02:14 PM
He would have never made it on this team with Hamilton, Nalen, Kuper, Myers, and Holland coming back.

Good luck Eslinger.

Dos Rios
11-14-2007, 02:47 PM
Remember, we had a very full roster and we thought it was loaded with talent. At the beginning of the season, we knew there would be some guys that might not even make the practice squad. The small draft was fine this year, I just wish we didn't have to trade away important picks for next year. That was the major bungle. However, the move up to get Marcus Thomas looks solid. We'll see about Jarvis. Crowder is solid. It will be interesting to see if Ryan Harris is in the mix next year since we will almost certainly need some help at OT.

I'm just glad we are noow at the "no job is safe" stage. That makes me hope will will have a better draft of "best player available" rather than reaching for needs.

True on the mindset this offseason. I remember thinking the o-line in particular was set with quality and depth for years to come, with the exception of another tackle in the next couple years. Injuries to Nalen, Hamilton & Harris; Lepsis looking nowhere near the old Pro Bowl form; Pears treading water developmentally; and Eslinger leaving. Suddenly it looks like Myers, Kuper and maybe Holland (good signing, turns out) are the only guys without big question marks.

It's now hard to find a position on the team not in need. Lots of aging vets; mediocre vets; and one-year rental vets. Need young bodies everywhere. Even the kickers won't be around much longer.

The old off-season philosophy made some sense when the core of the team was older dominant vets who controlled the locker room and had a clear vision of the team (Elway, Nalen, Smith, Wilson, Lynch). I would argue the core is now a bunch of young guys who are still developing and finding out what they will be as pros (Cutler, Marshall, Graham, Dumervil, etc). I don't think the quick, one-year free agent signings work so well in that context. This may be more like a Tennessee model of a very young, multi-year rebuild.

telluride
11-14-2007, 03:48 PM
He would have never made it on this team with Hamilton, Nalen, Kuper, Myers, and Holland coming back.

Good luck Eslinger.

It still seems very questionable that either Hamilton and Nalen will be coming back next season. Hope we sneak Eslinger onto the PS, because we are going to need bodies next year, too.

cmhargrove
11-14-2007, 04:10 PM
Remember that Holland was essentially a second stringer in New Orleans, and he has worked out here pretty well. I think Nalen has a better chance of returning than Hamilton, so Center really isn't our priority. If Nalen comes back, the real question is who gets LG, Kuper or Myers? Myers played some RT in college, so does he compete with Pears?

I think we are better off at O-line than D-line. Although this has been a rough year for our o-tackles. Hopefully thhey solidify as a unit as the year progresses. Actually, we might know more about our o-line after Monnday night. The Titans are great against the run, and I believe they are the #2 defense in the league. If we can protect Cutler and have another 100 yard rushing day, it will be because of excellent O-line play. Cross your fingers, this one is big for our team.

Requiem
11-14-2007, 04:19 PM
Will always root for Greg, loved watching him in college. Best of luck to a bright guy!

Atlas
11-14-2007, 04:20 PM
I think he is going to be a good player in the NFL. It's just going to take him longer because of his size. He is the type of player that is going to have to master it before he can play because he can't muscle people. He even has a smaller frame than Hamilton and Nalen. He just looks plain skinny even though he is the same weight as those two.

cutthemdown
11-14-2007, 04:57 PM
Remember that Holland was essentially a second stringer in New Orleans, and he has worked out here pretty well. I think Nalen has a better chance of returning than Hamilton, so Center really isn't our priority. If Nalen comes back, the real question is who gets LG, Kuper or Myers? Myers played some RT in college, so does he compete with Pears?

I think we are better off at O-line than D-line. Although this has been a rough year for our o-tackles. Hopefully thhey solidify as a unit as the year progresses. Actually, we might know more about our o-line after Monnday night. The Titans are great against the run, and I believe they are the #2 defense in the league. If we can protect Cutler and have another 100 yard rushing day, it will be because of excellent O-line play. Cross your fingers, this one is big for our team.

Hamilton will back for sure I have faith. I heard he is feeling really good right now, by next season he will be golden.

Kaylore
11-14-2007, 05:20 PM
that's too bad...he had some real potential. ya, ya, ya he was still on the practice squad...who cares. he'll be good, he just needed time. this is a bummer

Not it's not. He really struggled. Besides, true fans should be happy for him because he'll make more as a regular roster player.

Khaaaaaan!

I always thought we should use him as a short yardage blocking back. Good mobility, just no anchor, if i recall correctly?
No power. Really small frame. Good technique in the body of another Mike Leach.

CBF1
11-14-2007, 06:12 PM
Great, We are now totally throwing the season away.

chaz
11-14-2007, 06:34 PM
Not it's not. He really struggled. Besides, true fans should be happy for him because he'll make more as a regular roster player.

Are you really question whether I'm a true fan or not!?!?!...I watched him for four years dominate here in Minnesota, and then was excited when the Broncos drafted him. Now I'm disappointed because I think he had a future with the Broncos in another season or two, not because he is getting a chance elsewhere. I am happy for him, but disappointed for the Broncos. Usually I agree with your posts, and have a lot of respect for your opinion, but you're just talking out of your ass here.

And I'm not excited for his bank account...no one in the nfl struggles to put food on the table. I am glad that he is getting closer to his dream of playing on sundays.

chaz
11-14-2007, 06:35 PM
Hamilton will back for sure I have faith. I heard he is feeling really good right now, by next season he will be golden.

I think he'll be back too, however all it takes is one more knock and he could be right back where he was two months ago....so I don't know how much we can count on him...but we shall see

Hotrod
11-14-2007, 06:38 PM
Are you really question whether I'm a true fan or not!?!?!...I watched him for four years dominate here in Minnesota, and then was excited when the Broncos drafted him. Now I'm disappointed because I think he had a future with the Broncos in another season or two, not because he is getting a chance elsewhere. I am happy for him, but disappointed for the Broncos. Usually I agree with your posts, and have a lot of respect for your opinion, but you're just talking out of your ass here.

Kaylore is always talking out his ass. Just happens his ass is smarter then most of the ass's on this board.

Kaylore
11-14-2007, 07:35 PM
Are you really question whether I'm a true fan or not!?!?!...I watched him for four years dominate here in Minnesota, and then was excited when the Broncos drafted him. Now I'm disappointed because I think he had a future with the Broncos in another season or two, not because he is getting a chance elsewhere. I am happy for him, but disappointed for the Broncos. Usually I agree with your posts, and have a lot of respect for your opinion, but you're just talking out of your ass here.

And I'm not excited for his bank account...no one in the nfl struggles to put food on the table. I am glad that he is getting closer to his dream of playing on sundays.
I didn't mean you weren't a "true fan" I was saying that you should be happy because he's actually on a roster so it's an upgrade. And the guy fell to the fifth round and has been rotting on the practice squad for two years. After losing both backup Center's, doesn't is say something about what this team thinks of his abilities when they would rather sign a street free agent who hasn't been on a team in over a year as a backup than bring Eslinger off the PS? Seems the staff is making personnel moves "out of there ass" too. Or, maybe it's that we watched him play and realized he doesn't have the size or frame to play at the pro-level.

BowlenBall
11-15-2007, 02:44 AM
Eslinger was all-world in college....

He made the all-NFL Europe team last year....

This is a bummer -- I don't know why he wasn't making it onto the Broncos roster, but he's had success everywhere he's gone, AND he's attractive enough to be poached by another team, AND Tom Nalen's not getting any younger.

Suck, suck, suck....

chaz
11-15-2007, 12:03 PM
Eslinger was all-world in college....

He made the all-NFL Europe team last year....

This is a bummer -- I don't know why he wasn't making it onto the Broncos roster, but he's had success everywhere he's gone, AND he's attractive enough to be poached by another team, AND Tom Nalen's not getting any younger.

Suck, suck, suck....

Completely agree, just wait for kaylore to tell you he had no future tho....:spit:

bronco militia
11-15-2007, 12:08 PM
with all the injuries to the OL, this guy couldn't make it to the roster two years in row practing against 20 bazillion defensive linemen that are no longer on the roster.

it was probably time to move on

Billy Clyde Puckett
11-15-2007, 12:22 PM
, but he's had success everywhere he's gone,

Except the NFL. like many before him.

chaz
11-15-2007, 12:24 PM
people are sooo impatient it's unreal...he wasn't ready to play in the nfl this year....doesn't mean he didn't have a future. The Broncos have always been about developing OL talent for years before plugging them in.

chaz
11-15-2007, 12:27 PM
Except the NFL. like many before him.

you forgot a big YET in that sentence...why are people so quick to say good riddance to a young player just because he wasn't on the active roster...when we drafted him we knew it would take time, yet everyone gets pissed when he doesn't show immediate results. He's going to be a good NFL center someday, bottom line.

Hotrod
11-15-2007, 12:37 PM
you forgot a big YET in that sentence...why are people so quick to say good riddance to a young player just because he wasn't on the active roster...when we drafted him we knew it would take time, yet everyone gets pissed when he doesn't show immediate results. He's going to be a good NFL center someday, bottom line.

Can I borrow your crystal ball mines in the shop.

Billy Clyde Puckett
11-15-2007, 12:42 PM
you forgot a big YET in that sentence...why are people so quick to say good riddance to a young player just because he wasn't on the active roster...when we drafted him we knew it would take time, yet everyone gets pissed when he doesn't show immediate results. He's going to be a good NFL center someday, bottom line.

No one has said good ridance. It is nothing personal against the guy. I think everyone here was hoping the guy would be the next Nalen. We all have high hopes for all Bronco players. I stood right next to Eslinger at camp this year. He is just too small to hold up in the NFL against 300+ pound defensive linemen. He was a 6th round draft choice. He beat the odds with his effort to even stay on the practice squad for two years. Good luck to him.

chaz
11-15-2007, 01:01 PM
Can I borrow your crystal ball mines in the shop.

:spit:

No one has said good ridance. It is nothing personal against the guy. I think everyone here was hoping the guy would be the next Nalen. We all have high hopes for all Bronco players. I stood right next to Eslinger at camp this year. He is just too small to hold up in the NFL against 300+ pound defensive linemen. He was a 6th round draft choice. He beat the odds with his effort to even stay on the practice squad for two years. Good luck to him.

Everyone was hoping he'd be the next Nalen after only a year or two! completely unreasonable...and when it didn't happen that quickly many said "he was never gonna make it anyways, it's good we moved on"...blah blah blah...

You can tell if a guy is gonna make it just by standing next to him?! that's pretty incredible, however I bet if you stood next to Nalen or Hamilton at their first training camps you would have said the same exact thing. Captain Obvious says, "Bronco OL isn't all about beef..."

6th round draft choice doesnt mean a whole lot, because the Broncos draft from essentiallly a different pool of OL than the rest of the league, he only lasted til the 6th because he fits the ZBS.

I wish him luck as well! He's a good kid from the little I've met him

wolf754life
11-15-2007, 01:07 PM
this will come back to haunt the broncos..............................mark thy words..............................

Billy Clyde Puckett
11-15-2007, 01:51 PM
:spit:



Everyone was hoping he'd be the next Nalen after only a year or two! completely unreasonable...and when it didn't happen that quickly many said "he was never gonna make it anyways, it's good we moved on"...blah blah blah...

You can tell if a guy is gonna make it just by standing next to him?! that's pretty incredible, however I bet if you stood next to Nalen or Hamilton at their first training camps you would have said the same exact thing. Captain Obvious says, "Bronco OL isn't all about beef..."

6th round draft choice doesnt mean a whole lot, because the Broncos draft from essentiallly a different pool of OL than the rest of the league, he only lasted til the 6th because he fits the ZBS.

I wish him luck as well! He's a good kid from the little I've met him

Are you his mother???

When two guys ahead of him are out for the season, and they bring back PJ f'n Alexander instead Eslinger, it is obvious he needs to try someplace else. Good luck to him.

BTW - Nalen and Hamilton were starting in their second years.

chaz
11-15-2007, 06:22 PM
Are you his mother???

When two guys ahead of him are out for the season, and they bring back PJ f'n Alexander instead Eslinger, it is obvious he needs to try someplace else. Good luck to him.

BTW - Nalen and Hamilton were starting in their second years.

Alexander has an NFL ready body, Eslinger doesn't...I don't dispute that. I just wish we would have had the opportunity to continue to develop him, that's all. Wait for his body to catch up the his mind and ability. I'm happy he's moving up onto a roster. I'm no one's mother...:pimp:

My opinions don't differ all that much from everyone elses...I just wasn't ready to give up on him like most people seem to be. I wish him the best.

Kaylore
11-15-2007, 07:33 PM
Are you his mother???

When two guys ahead of him are out for the season, and they bring back PJ f'n Alexander instead Eslinger, it is obvious he needs to try someplace else. Good luck to him.

BTW - Nalen and Hamilton were starting in their second years.

The problem, Big Guy, is that you actually played football so you know what you're talking about. I'm sorry Chaz doesn't get the difference between "his muscles are small" and "his frame will never be able to suit up the body of a pro-style offensive linemen." That's ok. There are a lot of people who homer for their favorite college players around here.

I remember some people were pretty pissed off with me a few years ago when my camp reports mentioned that Chad Friehauf was practically worthless. "But He was amazing in the school of Mines!" they said. "He needs time!" Sometimes it's hard for people to understand what a huge leap it is from college to the pros.

Billy Clyde Puckett
11-15-2007, 08:05 PM
I remember some people were pretty pissed off with me a few years ago when my camp reports mentioned that Chad Friehauf was practically worthless. "But He was amazing in the school of Mines!" they said. "He needs time!" Sometimes it's hard for people to understand what a huge leap it is from college to the pros.

Chad was exactly what the the Broncos needed - a body to throw the ball at camp. He was signed to do that as a favor to his coach and everyone knew that was the only reason he was in camp.

chaz
11-16-2007, 12:25 AM
The problem, Big Guy, is that you actually played football so you know what you're talking about. I'm sorry Chaz doesn't get the difference between "his muscles are small" and "his frame will never be able to suit up the body of a pro-style offensive linemen." That's ok. There are a lot of people who homer for their favorite college players around here.

I remember some people were pretty pissed off with me a few years ago when my camp reports mentioned that Chad Friehauf was practically worthless. "But He was amazing in the school of Mines!" they said. "He needs time!" Sometimes it's hard for people to understand what a huge leap it is from college to the pros.

wow...

you're just the most smartest big bad football genius ever. I don't even have no idea what dumb folk like me would ever do without real smartfolk like you's all to break it down to the bare bones basics for me.

so what you're really saying is that you, kaylore, are smarter than the cleveland browns scouting staff?? I don't even think they run zone-blocking although I'm not really sure...but they must be out of their minds to sign a player with no hope of success in the NFL to their roster. I mean if his body is as hopeless as you claim...it's a shame they don't just hire you, ye of infinite knowledge and wisdom, to replace their staff.

Kaylore
11-16-2007, 01:05 AM
wow...

you're just the most smartest big bad football genius ever. I don't even have no idea what dumb folk like me would ever do without real smartfolk like you's all to break it down to the bare bones basics for me.

so what you're really saying is that you, kaylore, are smarter than the cleveland browns scouting staff?? I don't even think they run zone-blocking although I'm not really sure...but they must be out of their minds to sign a player with no hope of success in the NFL to their roster. I mean if his body is as hopeless as you claim...it's a shame they don't just hire you, ye of infinite knowledge and wisdom, to replace their staff.

This has nothing to do with me. Anyone that's been paying any kind of attention would know that the Browns have the worst situation at Center in the league. And anyone that's not a total homer that's acting overly emotional in this thread (yes, I'm talking about you) would take one look at Eslinger in person and realize that he has zero chance of playing as anything more than a backup on a poor team in the NFL.

Why don't you grow up a bit and quit lashing out at everyone who isn't heart-broken about the loss of a practice squad center with zero upside. Get over it.

eddie mac
11-16-2007, 06:29 AM
It's better that he's moved on IMO, cos it would've either been that or on the scrapheap next year. The only reason he was still a Bronco was because he was fortunate enough to get IR'd last season. A similar thing happened to Shoate and because of that we're still paying for it cos he's still a Bronco.

Kaylore
11-16-2007, 11:14 AM
It's better that he's moved on IMO, cos it would've either been that or on the scrapheap next year. The only reason he was still a Bronco was because he was fortunate enough to get IR'd last season. A similar thing happened to Shoate and because of that we're still paying for it cos he's still a Bronco.

Shoate had a great camp. He had a week where he had an int every day. He's not starter material, but he hustles on special teams and is good depth. I've got no problem with Shoate at all.

chaz
11-16-2007, 03:46 PM
This has nothing to do with me. Anyone that's been paying any kind of attention would know that the Browns have the worst situation at Center in the league. And anyone that's not a total homer that's acting overly emotional in this thread (yes, I'm talking about you) would take one look at Eslinger in person and realize that he has zero chance of playing as anything more than a backup on a poor team in the NFL.

Why don't you grow up a bit and quit lashing out at everyone who isn't heart-broken about the loss of a practice squad center with zero upside. Get over it.

1. sarcasm does not equate to "lashing out"....being a bit dramatic

2. overly emotional? heart broken? i said i was disappointed, thats it....also being dramatic

3. cleveland has had better o-line play than we have this season, derek anderson has been relatively clean coming out of every game (allowed 13 sacks all season)...so them being thin at center, doesn't mean they exhausted all options and were ONLY left with eslinger...they must see something in him, otherwise they would have signed another PJ alexander.

4. still don't understand why i was jumped on to begin with...my opinions still arent that far off from everyone else's they were just blown way out of proportion

eddie mac
11-16-2007, 06:57 PM
Shoate had a great camp. He had a week where he had an int every day. He's not starter material, but he hustles on special teams and is good depth. I've got no problem with Shoate at all.

I just dont see us re-signing him this offseason though. Paymah and Foxworth will come back on minimum tenders cos they were 3rd rd picks but I doubt whether we'll tender Shoate.

Cito Pelon
11-16-2007, 07:22 PM
Remember, we had a very full roster and we thought it was loaded with talent. At the beginning of the season, we knew there would be some guys that might not even make the practice squad. The small draft was fine this year, I just wish we didn't have to trade away important picks for next year. That was the major bungle. However, the move up to get Marcus Thomas looks solid. We'll see about Jarvis. Crowder is solid. It will be interesting to see if Ryan Harris is in the mix next year since we will almost certainly need some help at OT.

I'm just glad we are noow at the "no job is safe" stage. That makes me hope will will have a better draft of "best player available" rather than reaching for needs.

BAP is always a good draft strategy.

elsid13
11-16-2007, 07:27 PM
I just dont see us re-signing him this offseason though. Paymah and Foxworth will come back on minimum tenders cos they were 3rd rd picks but I doubt whether we'll tender Shoate.

I think that Foxworth be will tender higher then you think. I wouldn't be surprised if take 1st and 3rd round draft picks if some other team sign him. While Paymah is going to be interesting decision.

I agree that Shoate will most like be looking for new team after the season.

Cito Pelon
11-16-2007, 07:40 PM
Remember that Holland was essentially a second stringer in New Orleans, and he has worked out here pretty well. I think Nalen has a better chance of returning than Hamilton, so Center really isn't our priority. If Nalen comes back, the real question is who gets LG, Kuper or Myers? Myers played some RT in college, so does he compete with Pears?

I think we are better off at O-line than D-line. Although this has been a rough year for our o-tackles. Hopefully thhey solidify as a unit as the year progresses. Actually, we might know more about our o-line after Monnday night. The Titans are great against the run, and I believe they are the #2 defense in the league. If we can protect Cutler and have another 100 yard rushing day, it will be because of excellent O-line play. Cross your fingers, this one is big for our team.

KupesDad and 62Olinesdad are on pins and needles this game. Let's see if their boys can kick ass. It's not all on them, sure, but it sure would help.

Cito Pelon
11-16-2007, 08:00 PM
If I remember right, Cleveland went after Myers last year because they needed a center, and Denver activated Myers off the PS to keep him out of Cleveland's clutches. Or was that 2005? Crennel seems to like Denver's center's.

kupesdad
11-16-2007, 09:52 PM
KupesDad and 62Olinesdad are on pins and needles this game. Let's see if their boys can kick ass. It's not all on them, sure, but it sure would help.

I'm on pins and needles every game but there are other players that I'm just as concerned about that aren't even related to me. (to the best of my knowledge):wiggle:

eddie mac
11-16-2007, 11:15 PM
I think that Foxworth be will tender higher then you think. I wouldn't be surprised if take 1st and 3rd round draft picks if some other team sign him. While Paymah is going to be interesting decision.

I agree that Shoate will most like be looking for new team after the season.


No team in their right mind is going to give up a 1st rd pick for Foxworth. I'd even lay money that if we tendered him at the low level(where he was drafted compensation, i.e 3rd rd) we wont get much interest. There's a reason why Shanahan gave Dre Bly $30m plus and it wasn't because he thought Foxworth was ready to take over from Darrent.

Cito Pelon
11-17-2007, 01:28 AM
I'm on pins and needles every game but there are other players that I'm just as concerned about that aren't even related to me. (to the best of my knowledge):wiggle:

The team needs a real good stretch run. I wish the best of luck to all.

elsid13
11-17-2007, 08:41 AM
No team in their right mind is going to give up a 1st rd pick for Foxworth. I'd even lay money that if we tendered him at the low level(where he was drafted compensation, i.e 3rd rd) we wont get much interest. There's a reason why Shanahan gave Dre Bly $30m plus and it wasn't because he thought Foxworth was ready to take over from Darrent.

Have seen how many bad CB are in the league are? Add into the fact that usually take young good CB 3 to 4 years to actually figure it out and Foxworth becomes extremely attractive option to other teams at middle range tender. If Denver wants to keep him then I still think they are going to have to put high tender on him. Add into the fact that number of 3 WR sets (or other spread formation) that are now common in the league you really 3 good to great CB in the pass defense

dsmoot
11-17-2007, 11:38 AM
you forgot a big YET in that sentence...why are people so quick to say good riddance to a young player just because he wasn't on the active roster...when we drafted him we knew it would take time, yet everyone gets pissed when he doesn't show immediate results. He's going to be a good NFL center someday, bottom line.

There is one thing the Broncos have done in the past. When a player is on the practice squad and the team gets word that a player is about to be picked by another team, the Broncos will activate them to the 53 man roster IF THEY VALUE THEIR FUTURE. It was apparent that Eslinger did not have the confidence of the Bronco staff when Nalen and Hamilton went down. He simply is not ready now and they have made it apparent that they don't think he has much upside. Its a business.

BroncoBuff
11-17-2007, 11:56 AM
I'm seriously sad to see him go. :( For one, he's the first casualty of the amazing 2006 draft class (Cutler, Javon (Trade-2nd), Scheffler, Marshall, Kuper), and second, because you gotta respect a guy who beat out Nick Mangold from high-profile Ohio State every year for All Big-Ten, All-America and even the Outland Trophy. Plus he seemed like a Ben Hamilton clone: an undersized Minnesota Gopher center drafted late by us and toughened up in NFL-Europe ... I had been hoping he'd become a starter.

Atwater His Ass
11-17-2007, 12:30 PM
I'm sad to see him go as well. I always thought that if his only problem was strength, that could be corrected in a few seasons/off-seasons of work. Apparantly that wasn't the case.

I'm probably off base here, but it just seems like our strength and conditiong on this team just isn't up to par. Everyone has injuires and stuff, but it just seems like we (lately) always have guys going down, fading in the 2nd half of games and seasons, guys like Eslinger that for whatever reason just couldn't get stronger, I don't know, just some thoughts.

chaz
11-17-2007, 12:39 PM
There is one thing the Broncos have done in the past. When a player is on the practice squad and the team gets word that a player is about to be picked by another team, the Broncos will activate them to the 53 man roster IF THEY VALUE THEIR FUTURE. It was apparent that Eslinger did not have the confidence of the Bronco staff when Nalen and Hamilton went down. He simply is not ready now and they have made it apparent that they don't think he has much upside. Its a business.

Exactly, great post.

BroncoBuff
11-18-2007, 12:46 AM
Yeah, dsmoot is correct, but I'm still a little sad about it.

Billy Clyde Puckett
12-13-2007, 10:30 AM
Eslinger was waived by the Browns yesterday. Better sign him quick.

~Crash~
12-13-2007, 10:50 AM
I'm sad to see him go as well. I always thought that if his only problem was strength, that could be corrected in a few seasons/off-seasons of work. Apparantly that wasn't the case.

I'm probably off base here, but it just seems like our strength and conditiong on this team just isn't up to par. Everyone has injuires and stuff, but it just seems like we (lately) always have guys going down, fading in the 2nd half of games and seasons, guys like Eslinger that for whatever reason just couldn't get stronger, I don't know, just some thoughts.

that is a problem that we as a team creat . we are to small of a team and the later it gets in the game and the later it get in the season the more injories buy being over powered buy a biggger player .

ColoradoBuff
12-13-2007, 11:34 AM
I hope we sign Eslinger back to the PS.