View Full Version : Most hated Bronco ever?
BowlenBall
11-10-2007, 12:59 PM
Just like the Raiders must have felt uncomfortable with Howie Long (an intelligent, well-spoken, likeable guy who was a stand-up player), which Bronco was your least favorite ever?
If I've missed anyone, feel free to broaden the discussion below.
Eddie Kennison. The guy quits and wants to come back and when they dont let him, he acts like he has been wronged somehow. Eddie Kennison is a POS.
Florida_Bronco
11-10-2007, 01:06 PM
Kennison. Romanowski was a good player and good guy despite a few on the field transgressions. Carter was always a punk but he seems to have straightened out finally. I had no beef with Griese and the rest really weren't here long enough to do any damage.
That One Guy
11-10-2007, 01:24 PM
I saw a lady at the Lions game last week wearing a Clarett Jersey, I had to take a picture. Why would anyone wear such a thing?
Ratboy
11-10-2007, 01:26 PM
I saw a lady at the Lions game last week wearing a Clarett Jersey, I had to take a picture. Why would anyone wear such a thing?
His mother?
Crushaholic
11-10-2007, 01:27 PM
Kennison, hands down. He quit on the eve of a game, and that's unforgiveable. Plus, he went to a division rival. That's two reasons to despise Kennison...
BroncoBuff
11-10-2007, 01:31 PM
The anger over Kennison quitting was kinda washed away for me by 9/11, which happened that same week. Plus we signed that WR who hitched a ride to Denver with a Broncos secreatry while all the planes were grounded - who was that guy? He was a white WR, had the same last name as another player ... ???
Dale Carter is my vote. He's a worthless walking mass of human tissue.
BowlenBall
11-10-2007, 01:32 PM
The anger over Kennison quitting was kinda washed away for me by 9/11, which happened that same week. Plus we signed that WR who hitched a ride to Denver with a Broncos secreatry while all the planes were grounded - who was that guy? He was a white WR, had the same last name as another player ... ???
Dale Carter is my vote. He's a worthless walking mass of human tissue.
Huh... I remember that McCaffrey broke his leg the day before 9/11... surely Kinnison didn't quit before the same game... those three events would have to qualify as the worst week ever to be a Broncos fan....
BroncoBuff
11-10-2007, 01:33 PM
Anybody who votes Romanowski just wasn't paying attention to the team in 1996-1999. Romanowski shouldn't even be an option.
BroncoBuff
11-10-2007, 01:35 PM
Huh... I remember that McCaffrey broke his leg the day before 9/11... surely Kinnison didn't quit before the same game... those three events would have to qualify as the worst week ever to be a Broncos fan....
Yes, I belive Kennison quit 2 days before that MNF opener ... ?
It was also the first game ever at Invesco, 31-20 I think against the Giants. Patrick Hape is the answer to the trivia question, but Easy Ed was the real story on 9/10.
Raidersbane
11-10-2007, 01:35 PM
I can't believe you didn't include Lyle Alzado.......
Huh... I remember that McCaffrey broke his leg the day before 9/11... surely Kinnison didn't quit before the same game... those three events would have to qualify as the worst week ever to be a Broncos fan....
Worse than losing to SF (with Cutler getting a concussion because of or first rd pick Foster) followed by Darrent Williams getting killed?
BroncoBuff
11-10-2007, 01:37 PM
Worse than losing to SF (with Cutler getting a concussion because of or first rd pick Foster) followed by Darrent Williams getting killed?
Yeah, that's the call ... D-Will and the embarassing SF loss to miss the playoffs would be my vote too.
BowlenBall
11-10-2007, 01:39 PM
Worse than losing to SF (with Cutler getting a concussion because of or first rd pick Foster) followed by Darrent Williams getting killed?
Ouch... how quickly we forget. Good (bad?) call...
Orange_Beard
11-10-2007, 01:41 PM
Quitterson. Never forget when Sharpe came out on the field to talk smack at him.
Moon§hiner
11-10-2007, 02:09 PM
Kennison quit midseason right before a San Diego game as I recall....Rod was dinged up and I always felt that Eddie couldn't handle the pressure of being the man. I voted for Dale Carter by the way. An even bigger waste of skin on this planet IMO.
Bronx33
11-10-2007, 02:23 PM
I can't believe you didn't include Lyle Alzado.......
One of my all time favorite broncos but when he went to the faiders and turned into a first class a-hole everytime we went up against him i felt like he kicked my dog.
orinjkrush
11-10-2007, 02:24 PM
wish we had 5 Romos on this squad. the dude brought it every game.
Quitterson was amazing. he has the talent, just wasn't gonna give it to Shanny
Carter was a POS in every facet of his life
Clarette is a thug. he can't do enough time.
Alzado was too hyped on drugs to know what he was doing. Boxing Ali??
Griese was a huge disappointment. Montana clone? Poor kid thinks too much.
I think we should add some more disappointments: Lelie; Courtney Brown; Tommy Maddox; Nash; Dorsett; Trevor Pryce (wish the dude stayed) etc. etc.
BroncoBuff
11-10-2007, 02:30 PM
Dan Williams too ... he disappointed greatly. Not only was he the highest pick we ever had I think, but he went to the chefs later and played better there.
BowlenBall
11-10-2007, 02:36 PM
Dan Williams too ... he disappointed greatly. Not only was he the highest pick we ever had I think, but he went to the chefs later and played better there.
Dan Williams - PFFAAHHH! Speak not of Dan Williams on this board. He is dead to me.....
BroncoMan4ever
11-10-2007, 03:32 PM
i know i will get crap for this but i loved Romo when he played here. 1 of the most intimidating players ever.
i would rather run at the overrated murderer Ray Lewis than Romo.
Sure he used supplements and performance enhanceers but what the league doesn't test for doesn't count.
SouthStndJunkie
11-10-2007, 03:34 PM
My vote goes to Dale Carter.
Hogan11
11-10-2007, 03:37 PM
Kinnison.....quitters are lower than pond scum.
Sassy
11-10-2007, 03:42 PM
Where's the ALL OF THE ABOVE option ;D
Blueflame
11-10-2007, 03:43 PM
NFL.com says Quitterson played 8 games for the Broncos in 2001...and 5 games for the Chefs. My memory could be faulty after 6 years, but it seems to me that he quit the Broncos on the eve of the Week 10 game against the Redskins. And it put the team in a real bind because he was about the only healthy receiver we had; plus, he'd taken all the snaps in practice with the first team, so the team was depending on him.
Anyway, no player acquisition has ticked me off to the degree that Dale Carter did. I disliked him as a Chef and absolutely hated seeing him in orange and blue....
rovolution
11-10-2007, 03:49 PM
I cant believe Romo is even on this list.
He made the only two Pro Bowls of his career playing for us (1996 and 1998)
The man brought it each and every game.
He showed no mercy to opponents. He was the one you feared when you played the Broncos defense in the late 90s.
The D could use a player of Romo's caliber right now.
I still cant believe we released him in favor of the POS Ian Gold...
Triplelefthook
11-10-2007, 03:54 PM
gotta vote for Kennison... Rod was dinged and Mac was out the year with the broken leg in week 1... we needed Kennison to step up and be a legit #2 guy next to rod... and he quit.
secondary vote for Romanowksi.. great player but i never liked him one bit
Triplelefthook
11-10-2007, 03:56 PM
what did Dale Carter do that was so bad besides having a bad season?
Atlas
11-10-2007, 03:57 PM
Dale Carter with a bullet but out of the Broncos that were Broncos for a long time the one I hated the most was Rich Karlis. God, I hated that guy, Whiney ass kicker that always chocked in the clutch. Mr. Upright, I hated him.
Atlas
11-10-2007, 03:59 PM
what did Dale Carter do that was so bad besides having a bad season?
In 1995 he took out DB Lionel Washington at the knees when he wasn't looking and the play was on the otherside of the field. Washington suffered a knee injury and Carters was laughing about it on the sideline.
Triplelefthook
11-10-2007, 04:05 PM
In 1995 he took out DB Lionel Washington at the knees when he wasn't looking and the play was on the otherside of the field. Washington suffered a knee injury and Carters was laughing about it on the sideline.
okay - so is that the main reason he is on this list? i was unaware of that play
Blueflame
11-10-2007, 04:06 PM
Dale Carter was a cheapshot player and highly overrated.
Atlas
11-10-2007, 04:12 PM
okay - so is that the main reason he is on this list? i was unaware of that play
When the Broncos signed him it was like EVERY Bronco fan said "WTF?" It seemed like everyone but Shanny knew it was a mistake.
Blueflame
11-10-2007, 04:15 PM
When the Broncos signed him it was like EVERY Bronco fan said "WTF?" It seemed like everyone but Shanny knew it was a mistake.
Yep... he was a locker room cancer...
rovolution
11-10-2007, 04:17 PM
okay - so is that the main reason he is on this list? i was unaware of that play
he was the biggest FA bust in the Shanahan era. (Maybe only Quitterson rivals him but Quit signed a relativley low money contract so it was not that bad)
And that statement speaks volumes considering Shannys other monumental busts.
Northman
11-10-2007, 04:37 PM
Dale Carter by a 100 miles.
Northman
11-10-2007, 04:38 PM
what did Dale Carter do that was so bad besides having a bad season?
If you even have to ask that question than i dont know what to tell you.
Triplelefthook
11-10-2007, 04:47 PM
If you even have to ask that question than i dont know what to tell you.
thanks. kiss my a$$, i was just asking a question
Triplelefthook
11-10-2007, 04:51 PM
Atlas, revolution, blueflame - cheers for the info. appreciate it
backup qb
11-10-2007, 05:05 PM
Anybody who votes Romanowski just wasn't paying attention to the team in 1996-1999. Romanowski shouldn't even be an option.
Amen! Romo is one of my all time favorites. Heart of a lion.
backup qb
11-10-2007, 05:06 PM
I would have to vote for Nate Webster or Sam Adams. Totally worthless. I always hated Ronnie Bradford too for some reason.
backup qb
11-10-2007, 05:07 PM
Chris Cole would be another.
The Moops
11-10-2007, 05:23 PM
Kinnison hands down.
The biggest Shanahan bumble?
Clarett
cutthemdown
11-10-2007, 05:29 PM
Romo on this list is a crock of feces. Dude was a factor in 2 Superbowl seasons. While rest of team went out night before Superbowl vs Atl Romo was in the pool doing calistinics and aerobics. He played really hard on the field, never missed any big games due to off field behavior. Never got caught using anything. In my book when it comes to sports I just want the guys to be crazy on the football field. I would do anything right now for a player on defense like Romo who really was a thorn to offenses.
Atlas
11-10-2007, 05:35 PM
Romo on this list is a crock of feces. Dude was a factor in 2 Superbowl seasons. While rest of team went out night before Superbowl vs Atl Romo was in the pool doing calistinics and aerobics. He played really hard on the field, never missed any big games due to off field behavior. Never got caught using anything. In my book when it comes to sports I just want the guys to be crazy on the football field. I would do anything right now for a player on defense like Romo who really was a thorn to offenses.
I love Romanowski. One of my favorites of all time. Nobody wanted to win more than him. Nobody dedicated himself to football more than him. Denver doesn't win 2 SBs without him.
DomCasual
11-10-2007, 05:43 PM
This isn't even close for me. My top three are:
1) Dale Carter
2) Dale Carter
3) Dale Carter
It was a dark day for this franchise when we signed that turd of a person.
DomCasual
11-10-2007, 05:52 PM
what did Dale Carter do that was so bad besides having a bad season?
Well, let's see:
1) He was a locker room cancer. From stuff I've heard over the years, I think he may be one of the worst locker room cancers this team has ever had.
2) He was one of the most hated players from another team in my memory. Anyone remember him taking at Lionel Washington's knees? While Washington was laying on the field, Carter was on the sideline, laughing it up.
3) He was supposed to be for us what Champ Bailey is. We paid him like one of the best corners in the league. He played one pitiful season, got suspended for drugs, then was an anchor on our salary cap.
I usually have a short memory when players I don't like come to the Broncos. I couldn't feel that way with Carter. I hated the signing when it happened, and hated it more with every passing week of what was the worst Bronco season I've ever watched.
DomCasual
11-10-2007, 05:57 PM
Oh, and I forgot to mention, Dale Carter has a rotten soul. They tested it once - I watched it on the Discovery Channel. The very center of it was even rotten.
Sometimes, people are just born bad. They're bad with their first breath of air. Their lives turn into nothing more than varying shades of bad. That's Dale Carter.
Other than that, he was okay.
Orange_Beard
11-10-2007, 06:24 PM
Dale Carter was a junkie before he came to Denver. Junkie's do what Junkie's do.
Quitterson is much worse. Comes he QUITS THE ****ING TEAM, QUITS BEFIRE A GAME. THEN RUNS DOWN AND JOINS THE CHIEFS. **** HIM.
Bronx33
11-10-2007, 06:34 PM
Eddie (da biatch) kennison
Popps
11-10-2007, 06:34 PM
Anybody who votes Romanowski just wasn't paying attention to the team in 1996-1999. Romanowski shouldn't even be an option.
Yep.
Los Broncos
11-10-2007, 07:09 PM
Eddie, no one likes a quitter.
Kaylore
11-10-2007, 07:23 PM
It was Griese for me. I hated watching him play and I stopped caring about football for the better part of four years. I was fortunate enough to miss half his tenure here because I was serving a mission in Korea.
Los Broncos
11-10-2007, 07:27 PM
It was Griese for me. I hated watching him play and I stopped caring about football for the better part of four years. I was fortunate enough to miss half his tenure here because I was serving a mission in Korea.
Yeah he was hard to watch.
broncocalijohn
11-10-2007, 07:41 PM
Romo played all out so I cant see anyone putting his name down. He wasnt resigned not bailing to another team for more cash. Kennison was the worst. Someone mentioned before the Redskins game. Did we have a back up for that game also? It was the worst timing to quit. The best thing the players did was not accept that POS back. UNITY!
Atlas
11-10-2007, 07:42 PM
Yeah he was hard to watch.
Griese played great in 2000. I think he can still be a great QB. He just wasn't a very good leader or teammate for that matter, but if he has gotten better at that part of his game he can be real good.
I look for the Bears to make a big run with him this year. Even though the defense seems to be letting them done now.
DomCasual
11-10-2007, 07:43 PM
It was Griese for me. I hated watching him play and I stopped caring about football for the better part of four years. I was fortunate enough to miss half his tenure here because I was serving a mission in Korea.
Man, I went on my mission in Elway's prime - '89 - '91. Honestly, when I was trying to decide if I wanted to go, that was one of the things on my "Reasons not to go" side of the ledger. I tell people that now, and they laugh, like I am joking. I'm not joking.
DomCasual
11-10-2007, 07:45 PM
Griese played great in 2000. I think he can still be a great QB. He just wasn't a very good leader or teammate for that matter, but if he has gotten better at that part of his game he can be real good.
I look for the Bears to make a big run with him this year. Even though the defense seems to be letting them done now.
Man, you're kind. I watch him and get the same sick feeling of, "Oh crap - he's gonna throw it!" It takes me a second to come back to the reality that this is the Bears I'm watching - not the Broncos. :)
DomCasual
11-10-2007, 07:45 PM
Man, I just started two posts in a row with the word Man.
g00fyfoot
11-10-2007, 08:13 PM
Carter for me. KC trash not fit to wear the orange & blue.
Florida_Bronco
11-10-2007, 08:23 PM
The anger over Kennison quitting was kinda washed away for me by 9/11, which happened that same week. Plus we signed that WR who hitched a ride to Denver with a Broncos secreatry while all the planes were grounded - who was that guy? He was a white WR, had the same last name as another player ... ???
Dale Carter is my vote. He's a worthless walking mass of human tissue.
Might you be talking about Keith Poole? He was a white WR who had a few good years with the Saints, was about to sign with the Chiefs but jilted them to be with us that same year. Unfortuately he got hurt in Denver and just faded away after that, as he never seemed to be the same.
Maximus
11-10-2007, 08:44 PM
This poll sucks... Where is the Willie Brown selection?
Swedish Extrovert
11-10-2007, 08:55 PM
Or Marcus Nash... or Daryl Gardener
broncocalijohn
11-10-2007, 09:01 PM
Man, I went on my mission in Elway's prime - '89 - '91. Honestly, when I was trying to decide if I wanted to go, that was one of the things on my "Reasons not to go" side of the ledger. I tell people that now, and they laugh, like I am joking. I'm not joking.
because football before God? I told my wife that i would have gone to church more before we meet but religion decided to put their holy day on the same day as football. She didnt think that was very funny though.
Atlas
11-10-2007, 09:19 PM
Man, you're kind. I watch him and get the same sick feeling of, "Oh crap - he's gonna throw it!" It takes me a second to come back to the reality that this is the Bears I'm watching - not the Broncos. :)
Yeah, I know. We'll see how the Bears do in the second half of the season. You have to admit their defense has played pretty bad this year.
Killericon
11-10-2007, 09:32 PM
Anyone who voted Simeon Rice is an idiot. Seriously.
Swedish Extrovert
11-10-2007, 09:37 PM
Anyone who voted Simeon Rice is an idiot. Seriously.
Mainly because he was never really a Bronco.
2KBack
11-10-2007, 09:55 PM
Mainly because he was never really a Bronco.
Contributed more than Clarett did
DomCasual
11-10-2007, 09:58 PM
Anyone who voted Simeon Rice is an idiot. Seriously.
I know. No offense, or anything, but five years from now, I probably won't remember he played for the Broncos. Granted, I don't love the guy or anything - but he didn't stick around long enough for me to develop much disdain for him. If I was making a list of the players I haven't liked, he wouldn't even cross my mind.
Heck, Ashley Lelie would have garnered a lot of votes here. I'd put Tony Dorsett before Rice, just because I grew up hating the Cowboys. I'd put Michael Dean Perry ahead of him - I'll never get the image out of my head of his fat ass waddling off the field in '97. Simeon Rice? He's just a small part of what has been a pretty unenjoyable season, to this point.
clean
11-10-2007, 11:47 PM
Dan Williams too ... he disappointed greatly. Not only was he the highest pick we ever had I think, but he went to the chefs later and played better there.
I think the Chef's free agent signing of Williams worked out for the Broncos.
"Dan Williams was the first round draft pick of the Denver Broncos in 1993. He lasted in Denver four years, missing big chunks of 3 of those 4 years with foot and leg injury problems. In 1997, "Couch Potato" joined the Chiefs as a free agent, as most of the NFL had given up on him. King Carl gave Couch Potato a chance to play, and he played pretty well. He started in six games and had 10 sacks that year. Not bad. Couch Potato had signed a one year deal, and in 1998 wanted a big, fat contract to re-sign. He couldn't come to an agreement with King Carl, and couldn't go free agent; so he sat on his ass, ate Cheez-Its and watched TV the whole 1998 season."
"In 1999, out of desperaton for a pass rush, King Carl agreed to a four year deal with Couch Potato, including $7.8 million in bonus money. Couch Potato came back in 1998, and (surprise) his play got worse every year; down to just 5 sacks in 2000. He also had more "injuries" that affected his availability for games. In October 2001, Coach Vermeil cut Couch Potato outright as he had played in zero games. The cut cost the Chiefs $4.6 million dollars against their 2002 salary cap. After the move, King Carl acknowledged the 1999 decision to re-sign Couch Potato, was "a mistake." Duh!"
http://www.georgeblowfish.com/chiefspage6.html
rovolution
11-10-2007, 11:54 PM
I know. No offense, or anything, but five years from now, I probably won't remember he played for the Broncos. Granted, I don't love the guy or anything - but he didn't stick around long enough for me to develop much disdain for him. If I was making a list of the players I haven't liked, he wouldn't even cross my mind.
Heck, Ashley Lelie would have garnered a lot of votes here. I'd put Tony Dorsett before Rice, just because I grew up hating the Cowboys. I'd put Michael Dean Perry ahead of him - I'll never get the image out of my head of his fat ass waddling off the field in '97. Simeon Rice? He's just a small part of what has been a pretty unenjoyable season, to this point.
Mike Dean was a Pro Bowler in 1996 and was one of the better FA signings of the Shanny era.
Guys that went to the Pro Bowl as Broncos are far from dissapointments IMO.
Orange_Beard
11-11-2007, 12:04 AM
Contributed more than Clarett did
Bull****, Mo brought some beer and his goose to the weight room, WTF did Rice ever bring?
Arkie
11-11-2007, 12:13 AM
I would have voted for Daryl Gardner. We gave him a $35M contract. He was a huge failure from the start by missing games due to his pancake incident, to his attitude against "that little man up there." Did he ever do anything?
DomCasual
11-11-2007, 12:14 AM
Mike Dean was a Pro Bowler in 1996 and was one of the better FA signings of the Shanny era.
Guys that went to the Pro Bowl as Broncos are far from dissapointments IMO.
Ah, but there is a level of subjectivity to this question. What I remember about Perry is him jogging off the field in the Jacksonville game. It may not be right. It may not be rational.
That said, he doesn't have a rotten soul, so he's not in the same universe as Dale Carter. Or Eddie Kennison. Or Darryl Gardener. Heck, or Tom Rouen, for that matter (that's a story for a different thread - but he would definitely be high on my list).
BowlenBall
11-11-2007, 12:29 AM
Ah, but there is a level of subjectivity to this question. What I remember about Perry is him jogging off the field in the Jacksonville game. It may not be right. It may not be rational.
That said, he doesn't have a rotten soul, so he's not in the same universe as Dale Carter. Or Eddie Kennison. Or Darryl Gardener. Heck, or Tom Rouen, for that matter (that's a story for a different thread - but he would definitely be high on my list).
Good point, Dom. The questions is "who's your least favorite Bronco." NOT who was the worst player. Which is why I put Romanowski on the list -- the guy was quite a player, and did make our team better. I just had a hard time rooting for him, especially after the spitting incident.
Right on about Dale Carter, too. There was just something sinister about the guy that I couldn't put my finger on. Now I know -- defective soul.
Finally, a story about Tom Rouen -- I like the guy just fine, but he did flub more than his share of punts in Denver over the years. My wife and I started dating in 1995, and even though she's a non-native English speaker from South Korea, she got pretty involved in watching the Broncos during their run to the 1997 Super Bowl.
I remember trying to explain the role of the punter in American football, and the discussion went something like this:
Me: "That's the punter, Tom Rouen. He kicks the ball to the other team when the offense doesn't pick up a first down."
Her: "Tom Ruin? Because he ruins every kick?"
Me: "Exactly."
DomCasual
11-11-2007, 12:53 AM
Good point, Dom. The questions is "who's your least favorite Bronco." NOT who was the worst player. Which is why I put Romanowski on the list -- the guy was quite a player, and did make our team better. I just had a hard time rooting for him, especially after the spitting incident.
Right on about Dale Carter, too. There was just something sinister about the guy that I couldn't put my finger on. Now I know -- defective soul.
Finally, a story about Tom Rouen -- I like the guy just fine, but he did flub more than his share of punts in Denver over the years. My wife and I started dating in 1995, and even though she's a non-native English speaker from South Korea, she got pretty involved in watching the Broncos during their run to the 1997 Super Bowl.
I remember trying to explain the role of the punter in American football, and the discussion went something like this:
Me: "That's the punter, Tom Rouen. He kicks the ball to the other team when the offense doesn't pick up a first down."
Her: "Tom Ruin? Because he ruins every kick?"
Me: "Exactly."
My thing was this. 4th and ten from the opponents 40. Probably too far to try a field goal, so Rouen trots in. He lines up, gets the snap, and punts it 60 yards into the sixth row of the stands. Over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and... and...
kappys
11-11-2007, 01:05 AM
1) Dale Carter - plenty of reasons why, all have been listed.
2) Quitterson
3) IHOP
Other guys don't bother me that much
Clarett - basically we wasted the last pick of the 3rd round on a flier. Only a third or so of those type of picks will work out anyways, so no major loss.
Griese - He was a very good QB before he injured his rotator cuff. Sometimes I think people are very quick to forget that. Unfortunately he was never blessed with a strong arm - and once he had his injury he never had enough power to be a threat. Hard to hate a guy for injury like that - the real problem was that we didn't get someone else in quick enough.
Nash - Again its just hard to know with draft picks who is going to work out. Its not that he didn't try, its that he simply sucks which is why he is in the AFL.
Spider
11-11-2007, 01:36 AM
1. Michale Dean Perry
2. Lyle Alzado
3. Dale Carer
4. D. Garner
5. Quitterson
6. Mike Croel
7. Tory James
8. Steve DeBurg
9. Tony Dorsett
10.Coach Red Miller .........
Natedogg
11-11-2007, 02:00 AM
1. Michale Dean Perry
2. Lyle Alzado
3. Dale Carer
4. D. Garner
5. Quitterson
6. Mike Croel
7. Tory James
8. Steve DeBurg
9. Tony Dorsett
10.Coach Red Miller .........
Damn. I more or less liked 6 through 10
Spider
11-11-2007, 02:02 AM
Damn. I more or less liked 6 through 10
;D we agree to disagree ...... except for Red , he rode the coat tails John Ralston
dsmoot
11-11-2007, 10:02 AM
This one made me think a little bit. My initial response without seeing what others were saying was Alzado but I quickly realized that I was absolutely wrong because he was a significant performer for Denver. I just didn't like him because he didn't want to stay with the organization.
1. Dale Carter - his lack of performance was overshadowed by the attitude he brought to the team. Calling him a cancer might be too much of a compliment.
2. Kennison - His performance in KC bothered me more than his lack of commitment while in Denver.
I won't include IHOP - we knew coming in about his suspect character and his injury history. He had only one healthy season in the last few if I remember. This falls into the same category with Clarett and S.Rice that we knew we were rolling the dice hoping that we could rehab his character through the influence of team leadership.
Yes we need a player like Romanowski right now. Not only for his personal performance but also for this in your face - why aren't you (teammate) doing your job influence. He was always giving 110% and DEMANDED the same of everyone around him.
Romanowski, Alzado, Willie Brown, etc were players you hated because they weren't playing for us.
broncocalijohn
11-13-2007, 03:30 AM
Please explain the IHOP incident. Never remember that one.
Mr Chatterboodamn
11-13-2007, 03:46 AM
Please explain the IHOP incident. Never remember that one.
it was a case of one man's heart pumping "nitro" instead of the usual kool-aid.
Man, I just started two posts in a row with the word Man.
actually, that would make it 3 in a row.
broncocalijohn
11-13-2007, 05:42 AM
it was a case of one man's heart pumping "nitro" instead of the usual kool-aid.
That isnt an explanation. Details
Steve Prefontaine
11-13-2007, 07:54 AM
It's a toss up between Kennison and Michael Dean Perry. I still curse that dude for not getting off the field.
FantomForce
11-13-2007, 09:35 AM
The Vixen known as Hixon
dsmoot
11-13-2007, 10:02 AM
It's a toss up between Kennison and Michael Dean Perry. I still curse that dude for not getting off the field.
Michael Dean Perry gets too much of a bad rap. I can't remember how long he played for us, 3 years maybe. He played well up until he hit a wall in his last year (the year he didn't get off the field). He just didn't have anything left that last year. Before that he was arguably the best we had a tackle. I don't remember him being a problem child in the locker room. He certainly doesn't measure anywhere near Dale Carter or Kennision. I think the WR from San Diego (Anthony ?) and IHOP had more of a negative influence on the team.
Clarett, because we should've drafted Brandon Jacobs who'd be an unholy beast of defensive destruction in our system.
bronco militia
11-13-2007, 10:33 AM
Anybody who votes Romanowski just wasn't paying attention to the team in 1996-1999. Romanowski shouldn't even be an option.
I was thinking the same thing
Denver Crush
11-13-2007, 12:51 PM
Clarence Kay
Gerald Wilhite
Tatum Bell
Travis Mcgriff
Clinton Portis
These are just a few of my most hated.
orange 4 life
11-13-2007, 01:00 PM
. Patrick Hape is the answer to the trivia question, but Easy Ed was the real story on 9/10.
hape wasnt on the team in '01 (i dont think?) and he was a tight end.
i believe the receiver in question is kevin kasper.
crowebomber
11-13-2007, 01:00 PM
What about Darryll Gardner? He trashed the team on his way out the door. At least Rice hasn't done that yet.
And anyone for the NFL's best receiver, Assley?
But Kinnison gets my vote.
cutthemdown
11-13-2007, 02:00 PM
no votes for Bobby Humphrey or Micheal Brooks. Humphrey held out and forced a trade to the Dolphins and Brooks talked bad about denver and left for NY as one of our first FA losses.
DomCasual
11-13-2007, 02:04 PM
actually, that would make it 3 in a row.
Man, it's like a drug. I can't stop!
orange 4 life
11-13-2007, 02:16 PM
Clarence Kay
Gerald Wilhite
Tatum Bell
really?
bell never made enough of an impact to be hated. just my .02
clarence kay had some off field issues (which generally tends to bother me more than others), but he was ALSO a guy that played with alot of heart. he was also elways self appointed "bodyguard" and was always the first one to scrum to protect his qb. i liked the guy.
...and willhite? mr backflip?
i got tired of his hypochondriac get hurt on every play antics, but he was a decent enough spark plug in the return game and acceptable backup running back.
i just dont see how any of these guys make the all time most hated list.
alzado the traitor? sure
kennison or carter? sure
willhite and kay? i dont see it
RaiderH8r
11-13-2007, 02:20 PM
IHOP and Carter hands down. There was absolutely nothing redeeming about either of these individuals as players or human beings. Going after them was like trying to polish a turd; no matter how well it goes you will end up with **** on your hands.
Raidersbane
11-13-2007, 02:33 PM
Alzado by far in my book. The man had serious roid issues with the general public most especially motorists. His going over to the Raiders and then talking **** bout Denver after so many of his antics got covered up just puts him over the top.....he makes IHOP look like Mother Theresa.
DomCasual
11-13-2007, 02:38 PM
really?
bell never made enough of an impact to be hated. just my .02
clarence kay had some off field issues (which generally tends to bother me more than others), but he was ALSO a guy that played with alot of heart. he was also elways self appointed "bodyguard" and was always the first one to scrum to protect his qb. i liked the guy.
...and willhite? mr backflip?
i got tired of his hypochondriac get hurt on every play antics, but he was a decent enough spark plug in the return game and acceptable backup running back.
i just dont see how any of these guys make the all time most hated list.
alzado the traitor? sure
kennison or carter? sure
willhite and kay? i dont see it
I see it with Kay - only because he spent as much time in the Arapahoe County Jail as he did in the locker room. I don't get it with Wilhite. Yeah, he was hurt a lot, but I've read he has some pretty debilitating ongoing health issues from playing football, so I don't think he was blowing his injuries into something bigger than they were.
RaiderH8r
11-13-2007, 02:46 PM
Alzado by far in my book. The man had serious roid issues with the general public most especially motorists. His going over to the Raiders and then talking **** bout Denver after so many of his antics got covered up just puts him over the top.....he makes IHOP look like Mother Theresa.
That's funny. I met a former Bronco, Sam Brunelli, and we spoke at length about the Broncos, OL play, and football in general. Eventually conversation turned to good guys and bad guys. His favorite, most respected and well liked player BY FAR was Floyd. Brunelli would have put him in for Sainthood if he could have. The other end? Alzado. He was an a-hole of the highest order. A cheap shot artist in practice, a no class clown and any other disparaging remarks one could make of a player.
orange 4 life
11-13-2007, 02:55 PM
I see it with Kay - only because he spent as much time in the Arapahoe County Jail as he did in the locker room. I don't get it with Wilhite. Yeah, he was hurt a lot, but I've read he has some pretty debilitating ongoing health issues from playing football, so I don't think he was blowing his injuries into something bigger than they were.
again dom, generally the off field stuff bothers me as much or more than anyone else (i dont ever want to see henry play another down), but kay was one situation where i could forgive.
its hypocritical of course, and part of it is i dont RECALL that it was EXTENSIVE off field issues (might change my mind a bit!!), but his hard work on the field and his constant defense of the god made him okay in my book.
Northman
11-13-2007, 03:00 PM
really?
bell never made enough of an impact to be hated. just my .02
clarence kay had some off field issues (which generally tends to bother me more than others), but he was ALSO a guy that played with alot of heart. he was also elways self appointed "bodyguard" and was always the first one to scrum to protect his qb. i liked the guy.
...and willhite? mr backflip?
i got tired of his hypochondriac get hurt on every play antics, but he was a decent enough spark plug in the return game and acceptable backup running back.
i just dont see how any of these guys make the all time most hated list.
alzado the traitor? sure
kennison or carter? sure
willhite and kay? i dont see it
I agree, Willhite and Kay shouldnt even be on a list. There are far worse offenders.
Billy Clyde Puckett
11-13-2007, 04:50 PM
3-4 years ago, I know Willkite lived in the Springs. He had a company that brought in paid celebrities (mostly football players) to events for the purpose of signing autographs and generally getting participation in the event. I met him a few times. Seemed to be a nice enough guy. He was pretty gimpy even after all these years.
Denver Crush
11-13-2007, 07:33 PM
I was a kid back in those days, they just stood out to me. I think Wilhite was just injury prone. Another one is Ricky Hunley.
Hogan11
11-14-2007, 05:59 AM
There were a few Broncos I didn't like or never cared for, some of which are sacred cows to other fans and the organization, but to list them on a thread titled "most hated" wouldn't be right because they're my personal beefs only.
None of them would top the Quitter anyways, so why bother?
chrisp
11-14-2007, 08:17 AM
Romo did bring it every day when he played for us, but he chose to spit on all broncos fans when he went to the raiders and badmouthed us at every opportunity.
based on contribution to the team Romo shouldn't even be on the list (he was a big part of those superbowls) but as he was i just couldn't help but vote for him becuase the manner of his leaving has always left a sour taste in the mouth.
Perhaps it hurt more becuase Romo really was 'one of us' and a player who we all took to our hearts. All the other guys on the list were never really established in the hearts of Broncos fans so their betrayal/inability had less sting.
Atlas
11-14-2007, 09:26 AM
Romo did bring it every day when he played for us, but he chose to spit on all broncos fans when he went to the raiders and badmouthed us at every opportunity.
based on contribution to the team Romo shouldn't even be on the list (he was a big part of those superbowls) but as he was i just couldn't help but vote for him becuase the manner of his leaving has always left a sour taste in the mouth.
Perhaps it hurt more becuase Romo really was 'one of us' and a player who we all took to our hearts. All the other guys on the list were never really established in the hearts of Broncos fans so their betrayal/inability had less sting.
He didn't just "go" to the Raiders. Shanny cut him. There is a big difference. He gave his heart and soul for the Broncos every play. I can never fault a guy for that.
orange 4 life
11-14-2007, 12:28 PM
There were a few Broncos I didn't like or never cared for, some of which are sacred cows to other fans and the organization, but to list them on a thread titled "most hated" wouldn't be right because they're my personal beefs only.
None of them would top the Quitter anyways, so why bother?
because im curious. is that reason enough to bother?
hey, you can EXPLAIN why you have a beef. put the caveat out there and man up!!!
who are you "hating on?" Ha!
jake
houghtam
11-14-2007, 02:23 PM
I can't believe no one mentioned Tito Paul.
TailgateNut
11-14-2007, 02:36 PM
Carter was a POS and Kennison is a punk. Hard to decide, but I don't have to look at Carter anymore, so Kennison gets my vote.
**** him and his team!
Atlas
11-14-2007, 03:58 PM
I agree, Willhite and Kay shouldnt even be on a list. There are far worse offenders.
Clarence Kay is one of my favorite players of all time. He was a great blocker and he was a total team player. He hated the Raiders and he always stuck up for his teammates on the field.
He was good for one fight a game against the Silver and Black. I loved that guy. He seemed like a really great guy in interviews too. He just had some demons. Because he did coke doesn't make him a bad guy. I know Reeves really liked him him as a person and a player.
I think he could have been a really great player if he didn't have the substance abuse problem because he was actually a pretty good athlete and although his hands were suspect he could really run after the catch.
kennison...hands down the absolute worst
Hogan11
11-15-2007, 12:28 AM
because im curious. is that reason enough to bother?
hey, you can EXPLAIN why you have a beef. put the caveat out there and man up!!!
who are you "hating on?" Ha!
jake
There have been some beloved Broncos that I've never cared for at all. Oh, the production on the field was always appreciated, but that was about it. Some were brash loudmouths (a type of player that I've never, ever liked) that while others found them entertaining, I found them to be painfully embarrassing (like Sharpe)...others (Like Morton and Dorsett) I never liked before they became Broncos and that didn't change just because they put on the Denver jersey..żUsted sabe?
nickademus
11-15-2007, 01:19 AM
kennison only because he quit on the team at a time when we really needed him. if that guy thought he was in the right by taking care of personal business thus making the marooning of his team ok then how is it not ok for said team to tell him to take an effing hike when he wants to come back? if this guy got drunk and "slipped on the dog" and suffered a career ending injury it couldnt happen too soon.
chrisp
11-15-2007, 08:23 AM
He didn't just "go" to the Raiders. Shanny cut him. There is a big difference. He gave his heart and soul for the Broncos every play. I can never fault a guy for that.
I'm not faulting the guy for anything he ever did in a Broncos uniform, which is all good, I'm faulting him for the way in which he handled his exit, taking it personally the way he did.
Anyway, like I say its the fact that he did give his heart and soul for us on every play that made his sour exit burn that much more. With guys who do nothing for us and then make some jibes as they move on I think the jokes on them, but when someone is a big part of your team and then turns on you it hurts a lot more....