View Full Version : Indy Caught Cheating by Pumping Crowd Noise...Milly Vanillie Style
Garcia Bronco
11-05-2007, 09:10 AM
Girl you know it's true....LMAO...cheating bums
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We've always thought they were doing this...busted
Man-Goblin
11-05-2007, 09:14 AM
Lame.
Garcia Bronco
11-05-2007, 09:15 AM
Lame.
I wonder if Goodell will do anything about it.
cmhargrove
11-05-2007, 09:18 AM
I wonder if Goodell will do anything about it.
Maybe he will take away the sound system in their new stadium?
I got it, I got it - no beer sales for a year!
SoDak Bronco
11-05-2007, 09:20 AM
Simms and Nantz kept saying how the INDY crowd doesn't get tired and they are so loud....wow, I guess we know the reason..This is pretty pathetic.
Man-Goblin
11-05-2007, 09:21 AM
I wonder if Goodell will do anything about it.
He should make them crank it up when the offense is on the field for a year.
cmhargrove
11-05-2007, 09:23 AM
He should make them crank it up when the offense is on the field for a year.
Make them pump the noise into Peyton's helmet.
Man-Goblin
11-05-2007, 09:24 AM
Make them pump the noise into Peyton's helmet.
Manning's mind!
broncswin
11-05-2007, 09:45 AM
ROFL! Oh god that is pathetic right there, I don't care who you are!!ROFL!
Indy-:clown:
cutthemdown
11-05-2007, 09:52 AM
That could be doctored.
Eldorado
11-05-2007, 10:28 AM
That could be doctored.
No. I was watching the game and heard it live. Didn't put 2 and 2 together at the time, but I do remember wondering what the reverb was.
Garcia Bronco
11-05-2007, 10:37 AM
That could be doctored.
It isn't doctored. I heard it on th elive broadcast. They straight up got busted.
El Guapo
11-05-2007, 11:03 AM
bastards.
chadta
11-05-2007, 11:25 AM
so whats that gonna cost 500,000 for the guy operating the sound, and loss of a draft choice ? or are they gonna pull the "it had no effect on the outcome of the game" crap that works for other teams.
UboBronco
11-05-2007, 11:25 AM
Another first round pick to be taken away for cheating? Just a thought.
bap454
11-05-2007, 11:31 AM
WWWow! I cant believe this. This is so shady. Now it all makes sense. Thats why we got blow out 3 out of the last 4 games we played there.
DomCasual
11-05-2007, 11:35 AM
The other little gem from yesterday was from Jim Nance: "This Colts crowd is amazing. You can't hear a thing in here when the Patriots have the ball. But you can hear a pin drop when Peyton is out there, doing his thing."
Riiiiiiight!
SonOfLe-loLang
11-05-2007, 12:13 PM
thats funny....
thats funny....
thats hilarious...
Simpleton
11-05-2007, 12:18 PM
It's being investigated by the NFL.
BMF Bronco
11-05-2007, 12:24 PM
No. I was watching the game and heard it live. Didn't put 2 and 2 together at the time, but I do remember wondering what the reverb was.
I did too and made comment about it, but I thought it was the speakers reverberating the sound. Kind of like when you hear someone live on the radio with their own radio turned up and it echos something fierce. I knew it was not right either way. ****ing cheaters.
B-Love
11-05-2007, 12:24 PM
Last year we had a big debate about it, and half of the posters were indifferent to artificial noise.
"B-Love, who cares man, the game is still played on the field. Why do you care so much, it should have no effect on the game", etc...........
Looks like this thread is much more against it by far.
To me this is a very egregious offense and should be penalized severely also.
DomCasual
11-05-2007, 12:29 PM
Last year we had a big debate about it, and half of the posters were indifferent to artificial noise.
"B-Love, who cares man, the game is still played on the field. Why do you care so much, it should have no effect on the game", etc...........
Looks like this thread is much more against it by far.
To me this is a very egregious offense and should be penalized severely also.
Oh, I think it's egregious. I think it should be punished as severely as Cameragate. You look around the league, and the teams with the greatest home field advantages are the teams with the loudest fans. If a team artificially creates that environment, it's cheating. And it would definitely produce results.
Garcia Bronco
11-05-2007, 12:38 PM
Last year we had a big debate about it, and half of the posters were indifferent to artificial noise.
"B-Love, who cares man, the game is still played on the field. Why do you care so much, it should have no effect on the game", etc...........
Looks like this thread is much more against it by far.
To me this is a very egregious offense and should be penalized severely also.
It is minor, but it needs to be dealt with harshly. I don't care what the rule is as long as it's the same for everybody
jmz313
11-05-2007, 12:38 PM
I dunno cameragate was bigger IMO. Dungy could honestly have no clue about this while BB was in charge of the video taping.
Looks like denver really isn't trying or we're doing a bad job at cheating.
ScottXray
11-05-2007, 12:40 PM
I did too and made comment about it, but I thought it was the speakers reverberating the sound. Kind of like when you hear someone live on the radio with their own radio turned up and it echos something fierce. I knew it was not right either way. ****ing cheaters.
Reverb doesn't LOOP. Feedback spirals up or down...not with ECHO, and repeat.
They definitely were FEEDING that into the Stadium sound system....
They should lose picks, and this is as bad as cameragate....take their number one and fine the reponsible parties.
The REALLY funny part is who the OTHER team was....
:strong:
FantomForce
11-05-2007, 12:41 PM
No. I was watching the game and heard it live. Didn't put 2 and 2 together at the time, but I do remember wondering what the reverb was.
Same here cheating bastards!
Flex Gunmetal
11-05-2007, 01:02 PM
I saw/heard that and thought it was sopcast f-ing up. Weaksauce.
broncsyanks
11-05-2007, 01:56 PM
funny stuff
The MVPlaya
11-05-2007, 02:26 PM
hahahah @ this
Tom Brady also said during the game for some reason there is a certain level of being deaf and he couldn't he **** during the game. They had to revert to put wrist band play calling. He said he didn't know what it was...
snowtrx
11-05-2007, 02:27 PM
BB is all smiles this morning. Got the huge W and Indy was caught manufacturing a huge, "in game competitive advantage", AGAIN! I wonder how many "competitive advantages" are out there that BB knows about? Maybe there is a reason why he is so pissed off at the world that he got caught and punished? Either most people are right and he thinks he is a God in the NFL that can get away with anything he wants or he knows that most teams are cheating in some way and is pissed off that he got singled out by the NFL with the help of an ex-employee? Maybe a little of both, ???
I cant wait to hear from Alec! How pissed off will he be? He wants to re-write the record books when a team the Broncos OWNED is caught, but what will happen when a team that OWNES the Broncos is busted...AGAIN? Dungy & Manning better beef up the personal security if the NFL investigates and comes down on them, cause Alec will be stalking you. :rofl:
Killericon
11-05-2007, 02:29 PM
I heard it, but I personally think it was CBS doing it.
PatsWin2002
11-05-2007, 02:43 PM
Maybe a snow job coming out of NY via the NFL offices:
http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/ny-sppats1106,0,7199775.story
Colts cleared of cheating against Patriots
BY BOB GLAUBER | bob.glauber@newsday.com
2:17 PM EST, November 5, 2007
Newsday has learned that the NFL's investigation into complaints from the Patriots that the Colts had illegally piped in crowd noise is over. It didn't take the league long to find out that the Colts were not at fault for a crowd noise issue.
"CBS has informed us that the unusual audio moment heard by fans during the Patriots-Colts game was the result of tape feedback in the CBS production truck and was isolated to the CBS broadcast," NFL vice president Greg Aiello tells us. "It was in no way related to any sound within the stadium and could not be heard in the stadium."
According to a report on Yahoo.com, the NFL opened an investigationg after the Patriots complained of loud noise in the RCA Dome during Sunday's matchup of undefeated teams in Indianapolis.
The accusations were apparently made after some observed a "skip" in the sound during the game, which New England won, 24-20.
The Patriots have already been on the opposite end of their own cheating scandal this year, when NFL commissioner Roger Goodell found that they had illegally taped hand signals on the Jets sideline during the teams' Week 1 matchup. Head coach Bill Belichick was fined $500,000 and the team was fined $250,000 and forced to forfeit a draft pick as punishment.
Garcia Bronco
11-05-2007, 02:53 PM
Maybe a snow job coming out of NY via the NFL offices:
http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/ny-sppats1106,0,7199775.story
Colts cleared of cheating against Patriots
BY BOB GLAUBER | bob.glauber@newsday.com
2:17 PM EST, November 5, 2007
Newsday has learned that the NFL's investigation into complaints from the Patriots that the Colts had illegally piped in crowd noise is over. It didn't take the league long to find out that the Colts were not at fault for a crowd noise issue.
"CBS has informed us that the unusual audio moment heard by fans during the Patriots-Colts game was the result of tape feedback in the CBS production truck and was isolated to the CBS broadcast," NFL vice president Greg Aiello tells us. "It was in no way related to any sound within the stadium and could not be heard in the stadium."
According to a report on Yahoo.com, the NFL opened an investigationg after the Patriots complained of loud noise in the RCA Dome during Sunday's matchup of undefeated teams in Indianapolis.
The accusations were apparently made after some observed a "skip" in the sound during the game, which New England won, 24-20.
The Patriots have already been on the opposite end of their own cheating scandal this year, when NFL commissioner Roger Goodell found that they had illegally taped hand signals on the Jets sideline during the teams' Week 1 matchup. Head coach Bill Belichick was fined $500,000 and the team was fined $250,000 and forced to forfeit a draft pick as punishment.
The NFL would lie to protect their own. LMAO
PatsWin2002
11-05-2007, 02:54 PM
Damn right they would!
El Guapo
11-05-2007, 05:30 PM
especially their little baby, peyton.
BMF Bronco
11-05-2007, 05:44 PM
I heard it, but I personally think it was CBS doing it.
Damn good call dude!
Los Broncos
11-05-2007, 06:08 PM
Wow, busted and i love it!
People have been talking about this for quite a while, No new news here.
loborugger
11-05-2007, 07:11 PM
This isnt the first time the Colts have been suspected of pumping noise into their already loud dome. Couple that other crafty, crappy things that Paymeaton and Co have done (the fake spike, for example) and I never bought into this last weekend being a battle of good vs evil.
Whats real comical about this is that Bill Polian assaulted a Jets employee while accusing the Jets of pumping in crowd noise last year.
The way I look at it, cheaters prosper with these 2 teams winning 3 of the last 4 SBs - and barring a miracle one of these 2 will get the SB this year, too.
TexanBob
11-05-2007, 07:22 PM
Looks like denver really isn't trying or we're doing a bad job at cheating.
It's just that cut-blocking and salary-cap bending are so passe...
broncofan2438
11-05-2007, 07:40 PM
Wow, so has anyone talked about it yet? That is crap
Northman
11-05-2007, 08:22 PM
Video no longer available. lmao!!!
Peoples Champ
11-05-2007, 08:43 PM
i was at the colts vs broncos game in indy this year, i was at the last row in the upper deck in the RCA dome, i was right next to a speaker, you could definately hear fake crowd noise coming out of the speakers, i heard it and so did the people next to me, thats all the evidence i need to know the colts are cheaters too
PatsWin2002
11-05-2007, 10:04 PM
I've enjoyed our scandal immensely. I hope Indy enjoys theirs. Piping in fake crowd noise is pretty lame.
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Last year we had a big debate about it, and half of the posters were indifferent to artificial noise.
"B-Love, who cares man, the game is still played on the field. Why do you care so much, it should have no effect on the game", etc...........
Looks like this thread is much more against it by far.
To me this is a very egregious offense and should be penalized severely also.
My first broncos game ever was the Broncos/Colts playoff game in 2004. I've played in a lot of stadiums, been to a lot of games... the RCA dome was by far the loudest place I have ever been. Whether it was real or not, I couldn't hear myself think. I can only imagine how bad it was for Plummer and the offense.
Crazy.
Hogan11
11-06-2007, 12:39 AM
I'm surprised that Goodell didn't jump on this and try to use it as justification for his whole radio in the helmets to negate the home crowd noise thing .....yet.
Bronco Yoda
11-06-2007, 02:17 AM
This is nothing new for the Colts. The Vikings have also done the same thing for years.
atomicbloke
11-06-2007, 02:32 AM
We conveniently forget that our beloved Denver Broncos cheated on the salary cap during the SB years.
That ofcourse was a very negligible offense when compared to heinous crimes like pumping fake crowd noise or videotaping an opponent.
Broncos_OTM
11-06-2007, 07:58 AM
Indy doesnt have a first pick they gave it to San Fran
Garcia Bronco
11-06-2007, 09:18 AM
We conveniently forget that our beloved Denver Broncos cheated on the salary cap during the SB years.
That ofcourse was a very negligible offense when compared to heinous crimes like pumping fake crowd noise or videotaping an opponent.
We didn't even break a written rule. Both these teams have.
Bronx33
11-08-2007, 07:19 PM
Link
(http://wbztv.com/local/local_story_310083445.html)
Security Guard Claims Colts Enhance Crowd Noise
(WBZ) BOSTON The NFL may have concluded that the Colts weren�t cheating against the Patriots on Sunday, but one of their own security guards is allegedly telling a different story.
A day after some unusual sounds were heard during the Colts-Patriots broadcast Sunday, the NFL issued a statement saying what sounded like simulated crowd noise at the RCA Dome was actually created by the CBS production crew, not the Colts.
But WBZ Photojournalist Bryan Foley says an unidentified RCA Dome security guard told him Sunday that the Colts do enhance the crowd noise.
Foley has been shooting sports for more than a decade. He was covering the game for WBZ-TV and claims the noise in the RCA Dome was deafening when the Patriots had the ball.
"It was almost silent when the Colts had the ball," he said.
The noise was so bad he asked a security guard about it.
"I asked him, 'Do you go home at night with a headache? Because it's early in the first quarter and my head is already hurting.'"
"He said, 'I don�t know if you know this, but they actually pick up the crowd noise and pump it back through the P.A. (public address system)'"
WBZ Audio Engineer Charlie Lucci said it wouldn�t be difficult to enhance the crowd noise.
"If you wanted to add crowd noise to any environment, if you were pumping something out, into the P.A., the announcer that kind of thing, there are recordings available of crowd noise; or you could make one yourself and you would just add it to whatever you�re feeding into the public address system."
It's not the first time Indianapolis has been accused of such tactics. The Pittsburgh Steelers complained about the same thing after a 26-7 loss at the dome in November 2005. Since then, other teams have informally contended there is artificial noise pumped into the dome.
The Colts have continually denied the accusations, and issued their strongest worded statement yet on Monday.
"We trust this will put an end to the ridiculous and unfounded accusations that the Colts artificially enhanced crowd noise at the RCA Dome in any way," the team said.
The telecast received the highest rating overnight rating, 22.5, of any Sunday afternoon regular-season NFL game since at least 1987 and had a 39 share nationally.
Triplelefthook
11-08-2007, 08:31 PM
this is nothing new - the colts have been caught doing this before. i am really surprised this is news to anyone
Florida_Bronco
11-08-2007, 11:27 PM
We conveniently forget that our beloved Denver Broncos cheated on the salary cap during the SB years.
That ofcourse was a very negligible offense when compared to heinous crimes like pumping fake crowd noise or videotaping an opponent.
You should really do some more research on the issue. Our salary cap "cheating" was merely deferring payment on some player contracts to help fund Invesco.
Taco John
11-09-2007, 02:38 AM
Weak!
Taco John
11-09-2007, 02:41 AM
We conveniently forget that our beloved Denver Broncos cheated on the salary cap during the SB years.
That ofcourse was a very negligible offense when compared to heinous crimes like pumping fake crowd noise or videotaping an opponent.
We did not cheat the salary cap those years, period. Cheating the salary cap is spending over it. We asked our two top stars to take a payment late because Bowlen had his money tied up in the stadium deal. We gained no competitive advantage, except that the end result was a new stadium.
crazyhorse
11-09-2007, 06:02 AM
We did not cheat the salary cap those years, period. Cheating the salary cap is spending over it. We asked our two top stars to take a payment late because Bowlen had his money tied up in the stadium deal. We gained no competitive advantage, except that the end result was a new stadium.
Those players recieved nothing for defering that money either I presume.
Northman
11-09-2007, 06:05 AM
Those players recieved nothing for defering that money either I presume.
Nothing they didnt earn.
crazyhorse
11-09-2007, 06:08 AM
Nothing they didnt earn.
LOL
They earned 2 million in fines and the loss of 2 1st day draft picks. Way less than the Patriots.
Northman
11-09-2007, 06:12 AM
LOL
They earned 2 million in fines and the loss of 2 1st day draft picks. Way less than the Patriots.
Yea, the NFL can be bitter when a franchise outwits them which ends with the NFL creating a rule to protect themselves in the future. But, those trophies sure are nice. :wiggle:
crazyhorse
11-09-2007, 07:33 AM
Yea, the NFL can be bitter when a franchise outwits them which ends with the NFL creating a rule to protect themselves in the future. But, those trophies sure are nice. :wiggle:
Here you are 10 years later still having to explain your cheating. Meanwhile other SB winners can enjoy knowing they earned thiers. It's the defining moment of an organization and once great QB.
Northman
11-09-2007, 08:04 AM
Here you are 10 years later still having to explain your cheating. Meanwhile other SB winners can enjoy knowing they earned thiers. It's the defining moment of an organization and once great QB.
I cant help it that your slow and that you just cant grasp the concept of what happened. If i didnt have to explain it to you so much we could just move on. But, im doing you a service by re-explaining it to you. I should get the good samaritan award for this. Ha!
crazyhorse
11-09-2007, 08:09 AM
I cant help it that your slow and that you just cant grasp the concept of what happened. If i didnt have to explain it to you so much we could just move on. But, im doing you a service by re-explaining it to you. I should get the good samaritan award for this. Ha!
You'll have plenty of good samaritan work in your future. Because there are 31 football teams worth of fans that look at it the same way I do.
Northman
11-09-2007, 08:18 AM
You'll have plenty of good samaritan work in your future. Because there are 31 football teams worth of fans that look at it the same way I do.
You are probably right, there are a lot and i mean a lot of morons out there. Good thing you have company. :thumbs:
Peoples Champ
11-09-2007, 09:24 AM
i was at the colts broncos game in the very last row next to a speaker, i could definately here crowd noise coming in from the speakers, they definately do it
Meck77
11-09-2007, 09:34 AM
i was at the colts broncos game in the very last row next to a speaker, i could definately here crowd noise coming in from the speakers, they definately do it
I agree with you. I was at the first playoff game a few years ago and I remember screaming at my girlfriend who was sitting right next to me. I was also sitting next to Mediator12 trying to talk to him and it was damn near impossible. The thing was the score was so out of hand and I remember saying to myself "Nobody is even cheering or standing and I can't even hear the people next to me".
We were sitting in the lower level near the back wall around midfield. These areas in stadiums typically aren't the areas where your loud crazy fans sit. These sections usually have your old fans with binoculars. No way could it have been that loud without artificial noise. No freaking way.
broncofan2438
11-09-2007, 10:45 AM
Hahahaha, maybe the Broncos should have thought abou this.......oh wait, they will probably hear complaints from the "fufu" fans that "oh it's too loud, my pu$$Y hurts"
BroncoDoom
11-09-2007, 11:54 AM
I am a professional audio engineer... i record bands and play music for a living.
That being said, the NFL should of thought out their statement claiming it was "tape feedback from CBS" because it makes no sense. Tape feedback in no way sounds like a cd skipping. I can almost guarantee you they dont use tape anymore (and havent for 10 plus years) for their audio. Analog (tape)audio is a long gone art that only a few studios still use. They use digital systems to run their games. That was a skip and the claim of "tape feedback" was a joke because it doesnt exist in their systems, and even if they were using analog tape still...it would not sound like that!
NFL covering the ass of their favorites. This league is a multi billion dollar industry and if you dont think fishy stuff happens insides its walls we are crazy.
Cheers to the broncos running the table! The act is up!
Swedish Extrovert
11-09-2007, 10:12 PM
That could be doctored.
I doubt it was doctored, but it could be a technical problem with CBS
broncocalijohn
11-10-2007, 01:38 AM
I think Goodell should force the Colts to have to employ our Broncos scoreboard crew and have them tell the Colts fans to make some noise, a lot of noise......When Manning has the ball! Those morons punish us during the offense so I figure perfect penalty for the Colts.
Garcia Bronco
11-10-2007, 10:45 AM
I am a professional audio engineer... i record bands and play music for a living.
That being said, the NFL should of thought out their statement claiming it was "tape feedback from CBS" because it makes no sense. Tape feedback in no way sounds like a cd skipping. I can almost guarantee you they dont use tape anymore (and havent for 10 plus years) for their audio. Analog (tape)audio is a long gone art that only a few studios still use. They use digital systems to run their games. That was a skip and the claim of "tape feedback" was a joke because it doesnt exist in their systems, and even if they were using analog tape still...it would not sound like that!
NFL covering the ass of their favorites. This league is a multi billion dollar industry and if you dont think fishy stuff happens insides its walls we are crazy.
Cheers to the broncos running the table! The act is up!
I had a sound engineer claim that it was mic feed back for CBS's mic's on the field. I called bull**** on that, but I really didn't have the ammo to conflict the guy...other than my lying ears. :)