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Sassy
11-03-2007, 01:17 AM
Friday, November 2, 2007



Notes: Abdullah Ready If Needed

Safety Hamza Abdullah hasn't played since Week 2 after injuring his hip flexor against Oakland, but appears to have his hops back. PHOTO: ANDREW MASON / DENVERBRONCOS.COM





11/2: Lynch Limited; Questionable for Lions

By Andrew Mason
DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- Hamza Abdullah has practiced for the last two weeks. He wasn't even listed on the injury report this week, marking the first time he wasn't placed on the listing since he injured his hip flexor during the Week 2 win over the Oakland Raiders.

And with fellow safety John Lynch questionable for Sunday's game at Detroit after suffering a pinched nerve Monday night, Abdullah not only feels he's set to return -- but knows he needs to be ready to play.

"I hope so," Abdullah said. "Hopefully both John and I can play, but if John can't play, I'm going to put that added pressure (on myself) to get back out there."

While he has been able to go through the full gamut of practice-time work the last two weeks, Abdullah admits that he's not 100 percent, though he offers that he's "somewhere near there."

"With injuries like this, they want to give you a few weeks of practice, just to get your legs underneath you, because my wind isn't game-ready," Abdullah said. "I don't think my legs are game-ready, so I think they're giving me a little bit of time to get back up to speed.

"I just think the No. 1 thing is getting my legs back underneath me. Cutting, backpedaling, that wears on your legs a little bit -- just getting back out there and doing those same movements."

What was harder on Abdullah, however, was sitting out the last five contests.

"It's been a long time," he said. "It seems like I haven't played all season."

The injury was bad, but it could have been worse -- and he knows from first-hand experience.

"I tore my ACL (anterior cruciate ligament) my freshman year in college, and that was by far one of the hardest things I've ever had to deal with," he said.

Yet he quickly put that injury behind him, and hopes he's about to do the same with his hip flexor.

"I'm just anxious to get back out there," Abdullah said.

SAFETY OPTION: While Abdullah is a valued part of the Broncos' depth at safety, it is Domonique Foxworth who is the first reserve at safety, and the third-year defender saw his playing time increase geometrically on Monday night in Lynch's absence.

Foxworth started the game, but saw his playing time rocket skyward after Lynch left the game. Foxworth has actually started more games the last season and a half at safety than at cornerback, his listed position, since he filled in for Nick Ferguson late in 2006.

While Foxworth has always identified himself as a cornerback, he seems to have warmed up to his role as primary backup at all four secondary slots.

"Personally, as clichéd as it sounds, once you get into the season, and especially when you're having a season like we're having -- where it's (comprised of) ups and downs -- you're really willing to do whatever it takes to turn this thing around," Foxworth said. "If the coaches think I'm more of an asset to the team at safety, then I'll do that.

"I take it as a huge compliment from them. One week I'm starting at corner and then the next week I'm playing safety and nickel. It's a huge compliment for them to think that I can handle all this mentally and physically."

But that being said, one position is more taxing than the other.

"Safety is definitely tougher mentally, and it's tougher as far as physical contact," he said. "But corner is so tough as far as athleticism is concerned.

"If I had to pick one -- I'd say (safety) is tougher physically, just because I'm a 170-pound safety hitting 240-pound running backs."

wabbit
11-03-2007, 01:44 AM
For cripes sake...draft a guy for the position already...take a flyer.

I wish this team would stop trying to 'fit' people into positions.

If you need a FS, draft a freaking FS...it's not that hard...really.

OK...long breath...good luck to Allah, or whatever, and Dominque.

Sheesh.

Bigdawg26
11-03-2007, 02:04 AM
That is a good point Wabbit. I mean they might it seem like you have to solve a freakin riddle to draft a safety. I mean I would love to see Abdullah play, but I mean we cant keep putting poor little Foxworth at safety. That guy is way to small play safety and to stop the run( which mind you denver is dead last in the league). He's look like dre bly playing safety.

BowlenBall
11-03-2007, 03:51 AM
The shame of it is -- there were 7-10 good safeties in last year's draft goiing all the way down into the 4th/5th round. Not only did we not take one, we burned some draft picks trading up for Jarvis Moss.... who would have been there at #21 anyway... who had an injury history... who just got placed on the IR....

AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH HHHHHHH!

And in this year's draft, where we'll probably be drafting higher, there aren't any real standouts at FS or SS.

Double AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

And we've got the two oldest safeties in the league on our roster, and no promising talent behind them.

Triple AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH.

Sigh... I wonder what Steve Atwater's doing these days....

chrisp
11-03-2007, 07:55 AM
Pleeeeeease calm down!

When we moved up to get Moss that was always going to be a move that took a year or two to yield benefits. In fact, whenever you try to fix the D-line through the draft its always a long-term option.

I'm not sure if Shanny would ever accept the 'rebuilding' tag but whether you like it or not (and whether Shanny admints it or not) that seems to be what we've done.

I must say that as this season unfolds I'm more and more starting to think that all we needed was to add a pass rush to coyer's defense and we'd have been fine, but then again that probably understimates the profound effect that the loss of Wilson has had.

Thing is, I just hope that having made such prfound changes we give them time to make them work. Bates has to hang around for at least one more year, otherwise we're back to square one next offseason.

~Crash~
11-03-2007, 12:47 PM
Pleeeeeease calm down!

When we moved up to get Moss that was always going to be a move that took a year or two to yield benefits. In fact, whenever you try to fix the D-line through the draft its always a long-term option.

I'm not sure if Shanny would ever accept the 'rebuilding' tag but whether you like it or not (and whether Shanny admints it or not) that seems to be what we've done.

I must say that as this season unfolds I'm more and more starting to think that all we needed was to add a pass rush to coyer's defense and we'd have been fine, but then again that probably understimates the profound effect that the loss of Wilson has had.

Thing is, I just hope that having made such prfound changes we give them time to make them work. Bates has to hang around for at least one more year, otherwise we're back to square one next offseason.

come on Ebenizer should of been our DE this year

CBF1
11-03-2007, 05:00 PM
For cripes sake...draft a guy for the position already...take a flyer.

I wish this team would stop trying to 'fit' people into positions.

If you need a FS, draft a freaking FS...it's not that hard...really.

OK...long breath...good luck to Allah, or whatever, and Dominque.

Sheesh.


Quoted and repp'd for truth :thumbsup:

Cito Pelon
11-04-2007, 12:52 AM
For cripes sake...draft a guy for the position already...take a flyer.

I wish this team would stop trying to 'fit' people into positions.

If you need a FS, draft a freaking FS...it's not that hard...really.

OK...long breath...good luck to Allah, or whatever, and Dominque.

Sheesh.


Hard to top that. Said it all.

SoCalBronco
11-04-2007, 01:26 AM
For cripes sake...draft a guy for the position already...take a flyer.

I wish this team would stop trying to 'fit' people into positions.

If you need a FS, draft a freaking FS...it's not that hard...really.

OK...long breath...good luck to Allah, or whatever, and Dominque.

Sheesh.

I found it highly amusing last year after the draft when Sundquist said the reason we didn't draft a safety was because no one in the draft could unseat Fergy.

This is ofcourse, complete hogwash, and only one of many examples of Sundquist pretending that the fanbase (especially those that follow the team on a day to day basis like this board) are complete idiots and will eat up anything. There were several safeties in the last draft that could have immediately unseated Fergy in camp. Come on, Ted, we aren't idiots, stop treating us like that. I get really irritated when Sundquist throws statements out there that are comically absurd and thinks that the masses are complete idiots....kind of like the time when he said on radio, oh don't worry, we'll get a first rounder for Trevor for sure.

At least say something respectable like we only had a few draft picks to work with and had to make some tough choices and we liked the guys we picked, rather than hysterically insane statements like athletic studs like Nelson, Merriweather, Weddle et al. couldn't beat out the 32 year old, coming off an ACL tear and not particularly good Fergy comment.

This team has been almost criminally negligent at the safety position. Lynch and Fergy are both in their 30s, neither is particularly rangy or good in coverage and we have just allowed this problem to continue year after year without making a single investment at the position for years. We've got nothing of value in the wings. I know alot of people like to jack Abdullah and CC off, but these are depth guys, we've got nothing in the system. It's a ****ing joke. And now we are going to enter a draft year that is not particularly strong at the S position, and that assumes that some of the top juniors enter, too.

BroncoBuff
11-04-2007, 01:38 AM
For cripes sake...draft a guy for the position already...take a flyer.

I wish this team would stop trying to 'fit' people into positions.

If you need a FS, draft a freaking FS...it's not that hard...really.

OK...long breath...good luck to Allah, or whatever, and Dominque.

Sheesh.
Agree completely. And why is it they seem to discount Steve Cargile? He had three turnovers in preseason, and they stuck him on the PS (another guy they tried to 'fit' into a LB slot this preseason).

And SoCal, you're right - it's always backwards-reasoning with Ted. After Mike makes all the decisions, Ted reverse-engineers the explanations for the media.

Cito Pelon
11-04-2007, 02:01 AM
Pleeeeeease calm down!

When we moved up to get Moss that was always going to be a move that took a year or two to yield benefits. In fact, whenever you try to fix the D-line through the draft its always a long-term option.

I'm not sure if Shanny would ever accept the 'rebuilding' tag but whether you like it or not (and whether Shanny admints it or not) that seems to be what we've done.

I must say that as this season unfolds I'm more and more starting to think that all we needed was to add a pass rush to coyer's defense and we'd have been fine, but then again that probably understimates the profound effect that the loss of Wilson has had.

Thing is, I just hope that having made such prfound changes we give them time to make them work. Bates has to hang around for at least one more year, otherwise we're back to square one next offseason.

Chrisp, that's a reach from sentence one. Your #1 draft pick is always targeted to be a starter. Always. Same goes for your #2 pick.

Cito Pelon
11-04-2007, 02:14 AM
I found it highly amusing last year after the draft when Sundquist said the reason we didn't draft a safety was because no one in the draft could unseat Fergy.

This is ofcourse, complete hogwash, and only one of many examples of Sundquist pretending that the fanbase (especially those that follow the team on a day to day basis like this board) are complete idiots and will eat up anything. There were several safeties in the last draft that could have immediately unseated Fergy in camp. Come on, Ted, we aren't idiots, stop treating us like that. I get really irritated when Sundquist throws statements out there that are comically absurd and thinks that the masses are complete idiots....kind of like the time when he said on radio, oh don't worry, we'll get a first rounder for Trevor for sure.

At least say something respectable like we only had a few draft picks to work with and had to make some tough choices and we liked the guys we picked, rather than hysterically insane statements like athletic studs like Nelson, Merriweather, Weddle et al. couldn't beat out the 32 year old, coming off an ACL tear and not particularly good Fergy comment.

This team has been almost criminally negligent at the safety position. Lynch and Fergy are both in their 30s, neither is particularly rangy or good in coverage and we have just allowed this problem to continue year after year without making a single investment at the position for years. We've got nothing of value in the wings. I know alot of people like to jack Abdullah and CC off, but these are depth guys, we've got nothing in the system. It's a ****ing joke. And now we are going to enter a draft year that is not particularly strong at the S position, and that assumes that some of the top juniors enter, too.

Yeah, you have a good memory. It's good folks like you have accurate memories. I think Sundquist said there was "no better safety available" in the draft than 25 or 47. Many thought at the time that was stupid.

Broncoman13
11-04-2007, 11:02 AM
For cripes sake...draft a guy for the position already...take a flyer.

I wish this team would stop trying to 'fit' people into positions.

If you need a FS, draft a freaking FS...it's not that hard...really.

OK...long breath...good luck to Allah, or whatever, and Dominque.

Sheesh.

QFT

Griffin, Meriweather, Weddle, Gattis (sp?) Wendling, Piscotelli, am I missing any more that were avail... Reggie Nelson. I think that's all of them. We missed out on ALL OF those guys last year. I think Gattis is available right now too.