PDA

View Full Version : Try This Mock On


socalorado
11-02-2007, 10:23 AM
FA
DT RANDY STARKS
RB MICHAEL TURNER
DEN TRADES DOMINIQUE FOXWORTH TO NO FOR A 2008 3RD ROUND PICK
DEN TRADES 2008 4TH/ 2008 5TH AND A 2009 3RD TO ATL FOR A 2008 2ND ROUND PICK ( Yes, thats alot but ATL has the leverage here)

1ST KEITH RIVERS OLB USC
2ND VINCE HALL MLB VT
2ND JOSH BARRETT SS ARI ST
3RD EARL BENNET WR VANDERBILT
4TH TREVOR LAWS DT NOTRE DAME
5TH COREY LYNCH FS APPALACHIAN ST
7TH MIKE COX FB GEORGIA TECH
7TH JORDAN DIZON OLB COL (HOMER)


TURNER costs a boat load, but he's worth it. Running game is solved and STARKS shores up the hole on D-Line. Cutler get his favorite target in college in BENNET and the safety position is solved in one fell swoop with BARRETT and another LYNCH! LBs are revamped and DJ goes to either SAM or WILL. With HALL, RIVERS AND WILLIAMS, the LB position is handled.
DIZON is the homer pick, and he plays STs in his college town.

mattob14
11-02-2007, 02:54 PM
Not bad. I like the Starks and Turner signings and the mock is decent. Where is the OT though? This is a great class of LT prospects and many of them fit what Denver wants in a lineman. It'd be a shame if we missed out completely.

Elway777
11-02-2007, 03:05 PM
I like the fact that you signed starks and Turner but would would also try and sign Gibril Wilson and Cole from the Packers. Cole played defensive tackle in Bates system and would be a great backup. I love Rivers in the first and Bennett in the 3 round, In the 2 I would draft Beau Bell instead of Hall and a Dre Moore instead of Safety.Overall a good draft plus great free agents.

NFLBRONCO
11-02-2007, 03:12 PM
I'd rather build through draft. The only position I'd consider throwing money at is S get a good cover S. Throwing big money at DT's is a scary proposition.

socalorado
11-02-2007, 03:24 PM
I like the fact that you signed starks and Turner but would would also try and sign Gibril Wilson and Cole from the Packers. Cole played defensive tackle in Bates system and would be a great backup. I love Rivers in the first and Bennett in the 3 round, In the 2 I would draft Beau Bell instead of Hall and a Dre Moore instead of Safety.Overall a good draft plus great free agents.

LOL!! i was sooo close to putting Corey Williams or Chis Cole in there! I just figured that all the money would go to Turner!!LOL! that guy would be expensive! But hell ya, i want either of em for rotational purposes.
I would LOVE Beau Bell as well! I just was trying to figure in who would go 1st Bell or Hall. I figured Bell so DEN would have to take Hall. Bell can play both inside or outside so i think hes a more coveted player overall. Guy is a freakin beast! i tried to answer all areas of need, and unfortuately O-line was the spot that was ignored. I just couldnt fit it in.

As for a Safety, there are no FA safties worth looking into really. Mike Doss and thats about it. Ken Hamlin is on a 1 yr deal, but i think he gets resigned man.

BowlenBall
11-03-2007, 04:00 AM
Not bad -- except your 1st round pick.

Keith Rivers is a very undersized linebacker. What, are you looking to replace Ian Gold and keep the run-stopping suckage going for another 10 years?

bpc
11-03-2007, 04:22 AM
FA
DT RANDY STARKS
RB MICHAEL TURNER
DEN TRADES DOMINIQUE FOXWORTH TO NO FOR A 2008 3RD ROUND PICK
DEN TRADES 2008 4TH/ 2008 5TH AND A 2009 3RD TO ATL FOR A 2008 2ND ROUND PICK ( Yes, thats alot but ATL has the leverage here)

1ST KEITH RIVERS OLB USC
2ND VINCE HALL MLB VT
2ND JOSH BARRETT SS ARI ST
3RD EARL BENNET WR VANDERBILT
4TH TREVOR LAWS DT NOTRE DAME
5TH COREY LYNCH FS APPALACHIAN ST
7TH MIKE COX FB GEORGIA TECH
7TH JORDAN DIZON OLB COL (HOMER)


TURNER costs a boat load, but he's worth it. Running game is solved and STARKS shores up the hole on D-Line. Cutler get his favorite target in college in BENNET and the safety position is solved in one fell swoop with BARRETT and another LYNCH! LBs are revamped and DJ goes to either SAM or WILL. With HALL, RIVERS AND WILLIAMS, the LB position is handled.
DIZON is the homer pick, and he plays STs in his college town.

I'm switching gears. If I had to peg one guy as my offseason pickup it would be Chad Johnson. Yes, I'm electing to further strengthen the WR core around Cutler and not immediately react to our defense. String me up. The idea is to develop the face of this franchise with the model being the Colts... for years they put Manning into place and then built around him... Edge, Wayne, Clark among others. The defense suffered but the coaches learned that they had to make good selections with their draft picks and plug them into the system.

I would venture to say over the past 4 years that Indy has used that model and averaged at least 12/13 games a season.

Cutler is the franchise. We've put the eggs in his basket. Brandon Marshall is quickly becoming an excellent receiver and this club will get a boost when Javon gets back. Lets not stop there though. Lets keep adding weapons. Chad Johnson would give this offense a true deep threat to spread the field. Marshall and Johnson could line up on the ends, Javon could play in the slot.

Selvin Young could be the perfect fit at HB, a shifty runner who is equally effective running and catching the football.

As for the defense... the first I would do with whatever picks we might have left is to find some players at DT. Although i'm not in love with our LB's, I think they would play a lot better if they had some better players in front of them. DT's could be acquired through the draft or free agency although I wouldn't go the Haynesworth route.

I'm not sure how much Johnson would cost us but for a team that has a shoddy overall record at drafting and for how much money we put on the table for Cutler, lets make the most out of this investment. It may take a couple years to fill out the defense but Cutler can be a 10-12 year star for us. Our first priority should be giving him all the tools it will take to be successful.

Just my opinion. We should make it happen.

Broncos_OTM
11-03-2007, 09:58 AM
Not bad -- except your 1st round pick.

Keith Rivers is a very undersized linebacker. What, are you looking to replace Ian Gold and keep the run-stopping suckage going for another 10 years?

he is 6-2 235 for a will that is a good size. Gold is only 6' 220

BowlenBall
11-03-2007, 12:53 PM
he is 6-2 235 for a will that is a good size. Gold is only 6' 220

Sorry, OTM, my bad -- I got Rivers mixed up with Xavier Adibi, the #2 ranked OLB according to the Sporting News. Adibi is 6'1 and 218 pounds, Rivers is 6'2 and 236.

From the site:

Keith Rivers
OLB, USC

Strengths: Shows the quickness, acceleration, speed and closing burst to chase down plays sideline-to-sideline. Reads plays well, and reacts in a flash. Moves through traffic with ease, using hands to keep blockers from getting a hold of him. Flies to the ball to deliver violent hits. Is a good pass rusher -- up the gut or off the corner. Is good in pass coverage, consistently breaking up passes in zone and man-to-man.

Weaknesses: Does not always take on lead blockers at the point of attack, and can be jolted backwards too easily. Struggles to consistently shed big blockers. Tends run upright when chasing the ballcarrier, over-running plays and missing tackles.

Bottom line: Rivers is an elite athlete who flies around the field making impact plays. He is a well built outside linebacker who finds the ball quickly, moves through traffic with ease and has the speed to chase down anyone from the backside. He can do it all -- is a productive as a blitzer, is adept at making tackles on runs at him and breaks up passes in man-to-man and zone coverage. Rivers, no doubt, has the tools to be a three-down linebacker in the NFL. He will be a high first-round pick in April.

I certainly wouldn't be upset if the Broncos took him -- although I'd prefer a big run-stuffing DT, MLB, or SS first, though.

elsid13
11-03-2007, 02:32 PM
he is 6-2 235 for a will that is a good size. Gold is only 6' 220

Let be fair Gold was 6'3 in college too. (We won't know the real heights and weights til the combine.)

Broncos_OTM
11-04-2007, 12:58 AM
Sorry, OTM, my bad -- I got Rivers mixed up with Xavier Adibi, the #2 ranked OLB according to the Sporting News. Adibi is 6'1 and 218 pounds, Rivers is 6'2 and 236.

From the site:

Keith Rivers
OLB, USC

Strengths: Shows the quickness, acceleration, speed and closing burst to chase down plays sideline-to-sideline. Reads plays well, and reacts in a flash. Moves through traffic with ease, using hands to keep blockers from getting a hold of him. Flies to the ball to deliver violent hits. Is a good pass rusher -- up the gut or off the corner. Is good in pass coverage, consistently breaking up passes in zone and man-to-man.

Weaknesses: Does not always take on lead blockers at the point of attack, and can be jolted backwards too easily. Struggles to consistently shed big blockers. Tends run upright when chasing the ballcarrier, over-running plays and missing tackles.

Bottom line: Rivers is an elite athlete who flies around the field making impact plays. He is a well built outside linebacker who finds the ball quickly, moves through traffic with ease and has the speed to chase down anyone from the backside. He can do it all -- is a productive as a blitzer, is adept at making tackles on runs at him and breaks up passes in man-to-man and zone coverage. Rivers, no doubt, has the tools to be a three-down linebacker in the NFL. He will be a high first-round pick in April.

I certainly wouldn't be upset if the Broncos took him -- although I'd prefer a big run-stuffing DT, MLB, or SS first, though.


No worries man. There is about a trillion guys, cant remember everything:)

I could be wrong here but jim bates D would ask the linebacker to take on more run blockers. which really seems to be killing our linebackers. and same thing with over running plays.

Although a linebacker that can actually go man to man is in dire need

At this point DJ williams is playing like his hair iss on fire and seems to be really picking up the defense. i really like to see alot of positions addressed. i really would like to see more weapons on Offense. and while i like Young i think we need to go RBC with him. Another speedy wideout that can compliment BM and JW and possibly BS we need a guy that can stretch the field. to bad lelie couldnt have stuck around that was what he was good at.

But we CANNOT let the D go with the way it has been. I would really like Frank Okam. I think the he would shore up the line. Quite possibly going OLB in the second..

Alot of thoughts here but it is still early to really determine what needs will dissappear and what could flare up between now and the end of the year. and what College kids really come up and move down.

Broncos_OTM
11-04-2007, 01:06 AM
Let be fair Gold was 6'3 in college too. (We won't know the real heights and weights til the combine.)

It's been forever and a day but i dont remember anything ever saying Gold was 6'3 *shrugs*

elsid13
11-04-2007, 05:45 AM
It's been forever and a day but i dont remember anything ever saying Gold was 6'3 *shrugs*

Dude it was joke, just like most college roster weights and heights. Beside if you're a football player and you can play that more important then how much you weigh or how fast your 40 is.

bpc
11-04-2007, 11:51 AM
I'm still hoping that Denver can pick up some front line meat for the defense but honestly we could go in four or five different directions.

By watching this team, I think we could get by with what we have at WR, S, and OT.

I KNOW we can't get by with what we have at DT or LB. If we go into next season with a similar cast, somebody should get shot.

We'll have a chance to land some good players in round 1 even if we are picking around 15 or so.

Ryan Clady, Kentwan Balmer, James Laurianaitis, DJ Hall, DeSean Jackson, and Kenny Phillips will all be sitting right there. Who puts us closest to where we want to be and who are the actual football players with instincts?

Requiem
11-04-2007, 12:11 PM
I enjoy the mock draft, but it's still too early to project any trades involving picks and players that will benefit us. Where I'm sure Denver will move around to get an additional Day One selection or so, I just can't justify us doing picks this early.

There's no way that Earl Bennett is in the third-round though. As a junior with games still LEFT to play, he is the career SEC reception leader - and if he goes back to school he's going to shatter the yardage record by probably a thousand yards.

I think if Bennett comes out this year, he's a mid-second round pick at the worst. I put him in the same mold as an Anquan Boldin, and he's just a guy who can get it done on any route, and has fabulous hands and a great head. When you have 220 catches through your junior season in the SEC, that's something special. Truly special. That would have been great had he played four years there.

No way Bennett lasts until then. If Bennett came out, I'd have no problem using a first-rounder on him because he's that damn good. I think the Broncos would salivate at the prospects of having Cutler's favorite receiver back on Vanderbilt on the Broncos.

lex
11-04-2007, 12:41 PM
I'm still hoping that Denver can pick up some front line meat for the defense but honestly we could go in four or five different directions.

By watching this team, I think we could get by with what we have at WR, S, and OT.

I KNOW we can't get by with what we have at DT or LB. If we go into next season with a similar cast, somebody should get shot.

We'll have a chance to land some good players in round 1 even if we are picking around 15 or so.

Ryan Clady, Kentwan Balmer, James Laurianaitis, DJ Hall, DeSean Jackson, and Kenny Phillips will all be sitting right there. Who puts us closest to where we want to be and who are the actual football players with instincts?

I think it would be a mistake to take Balmer over Moore. As a matter of fact, I just watched the Maryland-Clemson game and Im even more sold on him than I was before.

Requiem
11-04-2007, 12:49 PM
When it comes down to Balmer or Moore, it's like picking a favorite ice cream. I think either would do well here, but I would prefer Moore over Balmer. I see Balmer in the mold of a Fluellen, who would be nice Cover-2 type defensive tackles, and Moore being a better fit here.

muffcon350
11-10-2007, 02:56 AM
From the looks of things thus far, we will be in pretty good draft position. We have so many needs that Shanny would have to try pretty hard to screw up in the first round. Guys that we are likely to try to take at our first round pick (probably top ten, at this point) are Dorsey, McFadden, Sam Baker, Kenny Phillips, James Laurineitis, Jake Long, and DeSean Jackson.

Analysis:

Dorsey: would be great but probably goes top three.

McFadden: Would be awesome, but probably goes top five at best.

Baker: Would take over the starting RT spot immediatley and has the skill and size to excell in our zone blocking system.

Kenny Phillips: I would love to see us get this guy. He was named the countries top defensive player coming out of Highschool and has started at Miami since his rookie year. He is great in coverage and hits hard enough to stop most running backs on contact.

Laurineitis: He would take over in the middle and allow DJ to move back outside where he excells. This guy is an absolute beast. He has that nasty demeanor about him and is a natural leader... something our young Defense really needs.

Jake Long: Said to be better than Levi Brown, but not quite as good as Joe Thomas. He would be a great addition to our line, but he is a little bit heavier than most of our Tackles at about 320lbs. I would love to have him, but I think Baker may do better on the Broncos O line due to the excess wait. Dont get me wrong, he is still great and I would love to land him. He will also probably be a top five pick.

DeSean Jackson: Last year, I told my buddy who is a big Ohio State fan that this guy was better and faster than Ted Ginn. I stand by that. He would add a much needed deep threat to our passing game and also a huge upgrade on KR and PR. He will probably go top ten.

OTHER POSSIBILITIES:

Frank "The Tank" Okam: He is massive at 340lbs, and would be a great compliment to Thomas to solidify our Dline for years to come. I don't see us taking him in the first unless we trade down. Not trying to knock the guy, but I just don't think he is worth a top 10 or even 15th pick. If DT was the only thing we needed, I could see it happening, but its not. He is just not as good as the players above him on the list. Look at it this way, if we had the 10th pick, and Laurineitis, Phillips and Okam were still there, why would we take the worst player of the three, when we desperately need help at all three positions? Besides that, there will be very good DT in the second round that meet the size requirements we need. (Dre Moore, Red Bryant, BJ Raji)

Keith Rivers: He is unbelievable. If we kept Gold and DJ where they are, I could see us taking him to play SLB. He and Dan Connor will be fighting for the second LB taken. I would be ok with taking either one, if the guys at the top of our wishlist are gone.

Dan Connor: Just as good as Rivers and may even be better as a pro just because he has played every LB position available and excelled at them all. If we took him, his versatility would allow us to mix things up at LB or keep them the way they are. Either way, he will preform very well.

Sedrick Ellis: The second best DT in the draft, but he really isn't big enough to do what will be asked of him. Bates wants his DT to Hold the line and stop the run. He is really more of a bust through the gap and try to get a sack type of player.

These are just my opinions, but what do I know. I just your average guy, sittin here in a bean bag chair naked eatin' Cheetos. (the crunchy kind)

BowlenBall
11-10-2007, 04:32 AM
From the looks of things thus far, we will be in pretty good draft position. We have so many needs that Shanny would have to try pretty hard to screw up in the first round. Guys that we are likely to try to take at our first round pick (probably top ten, at this point) are Dorsey, McFadden, Sam Baker, Kenny Phillips, James Laurineitis, Jake Long, and DeSean Jackson.

Analysis:

Dorsey: would be great but probably goes top three.

McFadden: Would be awesome, but probably goes top five at best.

Baker: Would take over the starting RT spot immediatley and has the skill and size to excell in our zone blocking system.

Kenny Phillips: I would love to see us get this guy. He was named the countries top defensive player coming out of Highschool and has started at Miami since his rookie year. He is great in coverage and hits hard enough to stop most running backs on contact.

Laurineitis: He would take over in the middle and allow DJ to move back outside where he excells. This guy is an absolute beast. He has that nasty demeanor about him and is a natural leader... something our young Defense really needs.

Jake Long: Said to be better than Levi Brown, but not quite as good as Joe Thomas. He would be a great addition to our line, but he is a little bit heavier than most of our Tackles at about 320lbs. I would love to have him, but I think Baker may do better on the Broncos O line due to the excess wait. Dont get me wrong, he is still great and I would love to land him. He will also probably be a top five pick.

DeSean Jackson: Last year, I told my buddy who is a big Ohio State fan that this guy was better and faster than Ted Ginn. I stand by that. He would add a much needed deep threat to our passing game and also a huge upgrade on KR and PR. He will probably go top ten.

OTHER POSSIBILITIES:

Frank "The Tank" Okam: He is massive at 340lbs, and would be a great compliment to Thomas to solidify our Dline for years to come. I don't see us taking him in the first unless we trade down. Not trying to knock the guy, but I just don't think he is worth a top 10 or even 15th pick. If DT was the only thing we needed, I could see it happening, but its not. He is just not as good as the players above him on the list. Look at it this way, if we had the 10th pick, and Laurineitis, Phillips and Okam were still there, why would we take the worst player of the three, when we desperately need help at all three positions? Besides that, there will be very good DT in the second round that meet the size requirements we need. (Dre Moore, Red Bryant, BJ Raji)

Keith Rivers: He is unbelievable. If we kept Gold and DJ where they are, I could see us taking him to play SLB. He and Dan Connor will be fighting for the second LB taken. I would be ok with taking either one, if the guys at the top of our wishlist are gone.

Dan Connor: Just as good as Rivers and may even be better as a pro just because he has played every LB position available and excelled at them all. If we took him, his versatility would allow us to mix things up at LB or keep them the way they are. Either way, he will preform very well.

Sedrick Ellis: The second best DT in the draft, but he really isn't big enough to do what will be asked of him. Bates wants his DT to Hold the line and stop the run. He is really more of a bust through the gap and try to get a sack type of player.

These are just my opinions, but what do I know. I just your average guy, sittin here in a bean bag chair naked eatin' Cheetos. (the crunchy kind)

No, no... not unprofessional at all... that's exactly how Broncos war room makes their picks during the draft....