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Fedaykin

10-30-2007, 04:58 PM

What's the explanation for that WTF fumble on the goal line? From the replay it looked like the LG intentionally batted the ball out of Cutler's hands.

Anyone got an explanation for what was supposed to be happening?

ozomulsion

10-30-2007, 05:01 PM

broncofan2438

10-30-2007, 05:02 PM

Looks like he just swatted it trying to defend

Killericon

10-30-2007, 05:03 PM

Kuper was pulling as if it were a stretch play, Cutler was moving like it was a draw or a pass play or something. Simple misunderstanding that mindlessly had the worst possible outcome.

cmhargrove

10-30-2007, 05:04 PM

Just a young, inexperienced guy trying his hardest to get into position. Otherwise, Kuper can hold his own on the line. It was a freak mistake, but **** happens.

I just wish we could have fallen on the ball instead of GB.

TheDave

10-30-2007, 05:10 PM

**** happens... There will be plenty of idiots around here trying to pin the blame on one or the other. Unfortunately when you are struggling the unexplainable seems to happen frequently

Fedaykin

10-30-2007, 05:10 PM

Ahh.. pretty sad, but at least we got to watch a total WTF failure on GB's O too -- that play where Favre tried to hand the ball off to thin air.

:thumbsup:

NYBronco

10-30-2007, 05:26 PM

Fedaykin

10-30-2007, 05:30 PM

Very simple explanation... it was an honest mistake nothing more than that.

Hmm. I should probably clarify that i don't for a second really think it was intentional, only that it looked like it and it wasn't immediately obvious what was going on that would make it appear that way. The explanation of a stretch vs a draw makes sense though.

RhymesayersDU

10-30-2007, 05:33 PM

Kuper got paid to keep the score low.

I kid, I kid.

telluride

10-30-2007, 05:35 PM

On a related note, why don't we use the shotgun more often, especially in the red zone?

ColoradoDarin

10-30-2007, 07:20 PM

Poor playcalling happened. How about we don't have the guard pulling on the one-yard line???

Freak thing having an olineman knock the ball out of the QB's hands, not really the fault of either.

Sassy

10-30-2007, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by bpc
its about momentum. Pulling plays normally take the longest to complete. Because the design is to have a large fat man run across a formation, block out on the opposing team creating a seam, timing is critical because a smaller, faster player is going to get the ball and hit the hole quickly. The hole closes fast and if you have any penetration, you're looking at a tackle in the backfield.

Linemen have to swing their arm, open up their hips, pivot and run while maintaining leverage running down the LOS for the first opposite colored jersey.

Jay Cutler pulled the ball out and needed to step back from the center's butt, handing it to the HB... he kind of lingered, even a .25 second too long and the lineman pulling across hit him in the hand.

This is the QB's bust. He needs to get his ass out of route of the lineman.

Sometimes you need to see it once in the game. I doubt Cutler will ever make this mistake again. Hopefully.

Kupesdad:
Good breakdown of what happened. In slow motion it looked like Chris slapped the ball out of Cutler's hand in actuality Chris didn't even realize that he had any contact with Jay. By knowing the play that was actually called it makes even more sense that Jay lingered because it was a "read" type play and when you are on the 1 yard line the read has to be made much quicker than one that is at the 5 yard line. I'm not blaming Jay because they are asking a lot of a 2nd year starter. In fact If it were me I would give him something that is a lot simpler and a poor result less impact on the game. But then a fumble is a fumble

This is posted already...but relates here as well...

TheDave

10-30-2007, 09:50 PM

ZONA

10-30-2007, 10:25 PM

It was a horrible mistake that turned the whole game. I would say if we get that TD, probably a 75% chance we win that game. As if the fumble were not bad enough, they march 99 yards and chew up like 8 minutes and get a FG, talk about ripping your heart out and stomping on it.

Kaylore

10-30-2007, 11:08 PM

Some people need to ew watch the repay of what happened... Cutler gets the ball and a split second later Kupers hand bats it away.

This play wasn't anyones fault... just a great example of **** happens

Yup. Young teams endure more of that than veterans. The good news is they'll get better.

PRBronco

10-30-2007, 11:38 PM

IMO, the only thing worse than failure is having a really retarded typo in your thread title.

Kaylore

10-30-2007, 11:47 PM

IMO, the only thing worse than failure is having a really retarded typo in your thread title.

"Worse than failure thread ttle" ;D

ColoradoDarin

10-31-2007, 12:10 AM

Some people need to ew watch the repay of what happened... Cutler gets the ball and a split second later Kupers hand bats it away.

This play wasn't anyones fault... just a great example of **** happens

it happens... when you have that bad of a play called at the goal line.

TheDave

10-31-2007, 12:13 AM

it happens... when you have that bad of a play called at the goal line.

Really? What play was it?

See with the fumble and everyone diving on the ball i had a hard time diagnosing it.

ColoradoDarin

10-31-2007, 12:14 AM

Really? What play was it?

See with the fumble and everyone diving on the ball i had a hard time diagnosing it.

Does it matter what the actual play was? I'm faulting Shanahan for calling a guard to pull at the 1 yard line.

TheDave

10-31-2007, 12:23 AM

Does it matter what the actual play was? I'm faulting Shanahan for calling a guard to pull at the 1 yard line.

Ah i got it... Another armchair Coach who knows better than Shanahan.

ColoradoDarin

10-31-2007, 12:29 AM

Ah i got it... Another armchair Coach who knows better than Shanahan.

Ohhhh, very impressive Mr. Internet Tough Guy! So you're saying that Shanahan's play calling has been good this year?

TheDave

10-31-2007, 12:30 AM

Ohhhh, very impressive Mr. Internet Tough Guy! So you're saying that Shanahan's play calling has been good this year?

Nope, just pointing out how stupid it is to blame shanahan for that fumble.

ColoradoDarin

10-31-2007, 12:32 AM

Nope, just pointing out how stupid it is to blame shanahan for that fumble.

Yes yes, Mr. Internet Tough Guy!

TheDave

10-31-2007, 12:39 AM

Yes yes, Mr. Internet Tough Guy!

If you think anything i said resembled an "internet tough guy" routine you need to develop a thicker skin. God help you when you run into Alec...

Teams pull line man all the time at the goal line... The power sweepand Gibbs Counter-Trey all involve pulling lineman... even at the goal line. Blaming the coach for a fumble because you feel a guard should never pull under those circumstances is ridiculous.

ColoradoDarin

10-31-2007, 12:42 AM

If you think anything i said resembled an "internet tough guy" routine you need to develop a thicker skin. God help you when you run into Alec...

Teams pull line man all the time at the goal line... The power sweepand Gibbs Counter-Trey all involve pulling lineman... even at the goal line. Blaming the coach for a fumble because you feel a guard should never pull under those circumstances is ridiculous.

I'll just point out that Shanahan has been routinely criticized for his play calling recently (ever since Kubes left anyways) and especially in the red zone. As for the "Mr. ITG", I'm just messing with ya LOL

ozomulsion

10-31-2007, 12:47 AM

I'll just point out that Shanahan has been routinely criticized for his play calling recently (ever since Kubes left anyways) and especially in the red zone. As for the "Mr. ITG", I'm just messing with ya LOL

Our redzone offense sucked last year with Kubes.

Garcia Bronco

10-31-2007, 12:54 AM

Awe Snit....it's The Funble>>>oh Noes!!!