Man, your corners got punked last night.

[crazyhorse]

I dont expect anyone here to actaully admit it. You'll probably blame it all on the safeties. But the rest of the world knows that your boys Bailey and Bly were beat like a drum all night. Not just on the big pass plays that lost the game. But all night long.

[Ratboy]

Actually Bailey wasn't beat all night long. It was only on that 1 play.

[crazyhorse]

Actually Bailey wasn't beat all night long. It was only on that 1 play.


uh huh

Favre was throwing outside the numbers all night. More so than any other game this season. On both sides of the field

[eddie mac]

If Law and Surtain had been playing in the same system with the same personnel around them Favre would've passed for 10TD's last night.

[crazyhorse]

If Law and Surtain had been playing in the same system with the same personnel around them Favre would've passed for 10TD's last night.

Sounds like an excuse. Not a good one. But an excuse none the less.

[AboveAverage]

Perhaps Bob needs a companion on his vacation? I don't see much of a difference between the threads they each started.

I will give you credit, however. Instead of a weak attempt at bait trolling, you are just straight up trolling with this thread.

[Ratboy]

uh huh

Favre was throwing outside the numbers all night. More so than any other game this season. On both sides of the field

You sound like a broken record player from the MNF announcers. Ha!

[crazyhorse]

You sound like a broken record player from the MNF announcers. Ha!


They were correct.

[crazyhorse]

Perhaps Bob needs a companion on his vacation? I don't see much of a difference between the threads they each started.

I will give you credit, however. Instead of a weak attempt at bait trolling, you are just straight up trolling with this thread.

In what way is this not a reasonable thread? You cant ban everyone. Did your corners not get it handed to them last night? I mean, come on.

[FantomForce]

Yes our corners got it handed to them. All be it one play or not, both of the big plays that we gave up ended up costing us the game

[Crushaholic]

Denver has been focusing on getting better with the run, so they were always mindful of run plays. However, Green Bay's offensive coordinator did a great job at sensing we were playing the run and Favre took advantage of that...

[Raiders Rock]

16 seconds into overtime?

Ahh, yall ain't that bad overall, you got beat by a better team, you should finish higher than we do this year but it won't be a landslide.
Tough long road trip without the cold snow home field advantage to help you this year.

[Ratboy]

16 seconds into overtime?

Ahh, yall ain't that bad overall, you got beat by a better team, you should finish higher than we do this year but it won't be a landslide.
Tough long road trip without the cold snow home field advantage to help you this year.

RR, you're singing a different tune than you were 2-3 weeks ago.

I rather finish bottom at the barrel. AFC West isn't going any where and I rather take a better draft pick.

[Rohirrim]

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/9391/troll2hg9.jpg

[Crushaholic]

16 seconds into overtime?

Ahh, yall ain't that bad overall, you got beat by a better team, you should finish higher than we do this year but it won't be a landslide.
Tough long road trip without the cold snow home field advantage to help you this year.

That didn't exactly help Denver during a recent game against the Raiders in the snow. On another TV, they were showing the greatest catches in NFL history and I believe it was Curry who caught the game winner for the Raiders in the back of the endzone. I could be wrong, but that's the name I thought I saw on the back of the jersey...

[jmz313]

CBs got burned, YES. BUT, With our run D can you blame them for biting a little on Play action? Seriously. NO CB in history could succeed in our defensive mess.

[Raiders Rock]

That didn't exactly help Denver during a recent game against the Raiders in the snow. On another TV, they were showing the greatest catches in NFL history and I believe it was Curry who caught the game winner for the Raiders in the back of the endzone. I could be wrong, but that's the name I thought I saw on the back of the jersey...

What the hell do you call recent? 17 games ago vs the west?

[Raiders Rock]

RR, you're singing a different tune than you were 2-3 weeks ago.

I rather finish bottom at the barrel. AFC West isn't going any where and I rather take a better draft pick.

I only have ammo when we win and you lose and lately that ain't often so I will gloat when we lose and you do too, just don't feel quite as good for some reason:spit:

[55CrushEm]

In what way is this not a reasonable thread? You cant ban everyone. Did your corners not get it handed to them last night? I mean, come on.

Ummm....actually, he can. It's a private board.

[Raiders Rock]

In what way is this not a reasonable thread? You cant ban everyone. Did your corners not get it handed to them last night? I mean, come on.

Now you know they are sensitive today...LOL

[Smiling Assassin27]

In what way is this not a reasonable thread? You cant ban everyone. Did your corners not get it handed to them last night? I mean, come on.


Sure they did. What's the big deal? CB's can't defense every pass thrown their way and you certainly can't judge a CB by a single game, can you? Look at the body of work, factor in the lack of pass rush and utter inability to stop the run and last night wasn't all that shocking. Sometimes you get them and other times, they get you--that's the life of a CB. We come back next week and move forward toward our 6-10 season. End.

[Raiders Rock]

http://joshreads.com/images/0606/i060607dtm.jpg

[Spider]

Now you know they are sensitive today...LOL

it isnt about being sensitive , it is about Dumbasses thinking they have a clue , Bret Farve had over 4 seconds to throw most of the game , we didnt force 1 interception ,this is what happens without a pass rush
we suck vs the run ,so our DB's are biting on play action , and what does this genius named Crazy horse do ... Starts a dumb ass thread about our DB's getting burned ..... I dont expect alot from Crazy , he is another Bob , so I didnt respond in this thread , but I saw your comments and I said , no way a fellow trucker could be this stupid , he has to be stirring the pot ... just sad you have ot team up with Chief fan ........ there has to be a limit on Stupidity .....

[55CrushEm]

Sure they did. What's the big deal? CB's can't defense every pass thrown their way and you certainly can't judge a CB by a single game, can you? Look at the body of work, factor in the lack of pass rush and utter inability to stop the run and last night wasn't all that shocking.

Exactly. What Crazydouche really wants to say, is that our corners "suck"....but she knows if she said that then she'd be pointing out the clear lack of knowledge she has about the game of football.

Every REAL fan of the sport knows that Bailey is the best CB on the planet. As you say, with our safeties cheating up to play the run....it's no surprise that they got burned a couple of times....especially when you consider that they were both gimpy, and were playing against one of the greatest QB's of all time.

One of 2 things are happening here.....either Crazydouche really doesn't understand that well the game of football....or she DOES understand what we've said....but she chooses to be a troll anyway.

I think it's a combination of both....

[FrontRowSeat1]

I applaud your devotion and spirit. But that said, your "best CB on the planet" and his mouthy trash talking buddy on the other corner got torched on 2 plays. Yea OK, so its just two plays. But both plays cost us 14 points. Blame the line, blame whomever. But the bottom line is the boys did not come through on big time pass plays when they had to step up.

Its embarrasing when MNF has Bly dropping trash talk about he and Champ only to have the same two guys blow the plays that cost the game.

[BroncoSoja]

Perhaps Bob needs a companion on his vacation? I don't see much of a difference between the threads they each started.

I will give you credit, however. Instead of a weak attempt at bait trolling, you are just straight up trolling with this thread.

How is he trolling? He is 100% correct. You people here trip me out with your censor ship tatics, when ever seem body fails to don the orange and blue fanboi goggles and tells it like it is you call for a ban.

The dude is right all night long I watched as Greenbays corners were up on the ball jamming our WR's at the line while our so called best Corners in the NFL played 10 yards off and jammed there thumps up there butts.

While im not saying that are CB's suck in any way, im saying that I thought in the "bates system" CB's were suppose to be up in your face and knocking off the ball from the word go, I have yet to see them play that way all year. if your going to get burned as badly as our boys did last night, **** atleast harrass the guy at the line and make him earn it.

[El Guapo]

uh huh

Favre was throwing outside the numbers all night. More so than any other game this season. On both sides of the field

besides that one play, bailey stopped the WR's on a dime after they caught the ball. he did what he was supposed to do. he's not going to int it all game long.

[ZachKC]

Perhaps Bob needs a companion on his vacation? I don't see much of a difference between the threads they each started.

I will give you credit, however. Instead of a weak attempt at bait trolling, you are just straight up trolling with this thread.

Pussy.

[ZachKC]

Its embarrasing when MNF has Bly dropping trash talk about he and Champ only to have the same two guys blow the plays that cost the game.

Ouch, didn't see that part.

[BMF Bronco]

I don't see what's wrong with his statement, we got torched for two HUGE TD's on national TV, plain and simple!

[Beantown Bronco]

I don't see what's wrong with his statement, we got torched for two HUGE TD's on national TV, plain and simple!

Exactly. 21-27 for 331 yards, 2 TDs and 0 INTs. I'd have a problem with anyone saying that they DIDN'T get punked. Were the corners totally to blame? Of course not. The DLine, LBs and safeties can take a good deal of the blame overall. But it doesn't change the fact that they (the CBs) were punked.

[BMF Bronco]

What makes it worse was Bly's stupid ass trash talk introduction of the _efense!

[DarkHorse]

I'll agree - both got torched. Where were our safeties on those shots? Playing on the line to assist a weak front four and even worse linebacking corp.

At least that's my opinion.

This was a shell of the D that showed up last week vs Pittsburgh.

Great game tho - I did enjoy it even tho it was a loss, a very pathetic way to lose however. Big ear burned for 82.

[eddie mac]

Let's be honest here. When's the last time Denver had a decent safety who could defend the pass???

[DarkHorse]

Let's be honest here. When's the last time Denver had a decent safety who could defend the pass???

Tyrone Braxton

[crazyhorse]

it isnt about being sensitive , it is about Dumbasses thinking they have a clue , Bret Farve had over 4 seconds to throw most of the game , we didnt force 1 interception ,this is what happens without a pass rush
we suck vs the run ,so our DB's are biting on play action , and what does this genius named Crazy horse do ... Starts a dumb ass thread about our DB's getting burned ..... I dont expect alot from Crazy , he is another Bob , so I didnt respond in this thread , but I saw your comments and I said , no way a fellow trucker could be this stupid , he has to be stirring the pot ... just sad you have ot team up with Chief fan ........ there has to be a limit on Stupidity .....

Hit a nerve? LOL

[KCStud]

I think Bronco fans will admit that it wasn't as much of the CB's faults as it was the DL. Favre had ALL DAY to throw the ball

[lex]

Ill cut Bailey some slack for last night as I dont think he was 100%.

[broncswin]

I think Bronco fans will admit that it wasn't as much of the CB's faults as it was the DL. Favre had ALL DAY to throw the ball

I think it was a shiatty performance from our d-line, I swear too god that was the cleanest jersey Farve has ever taken off after a game.

This one is in the books, it is time to take this young team on the road to face a quality Lions team. Lets go Broncos!!:thumbsup:

[chadta]

ill cut them both some slack, theyve spent all year doing alot of tackleing on run plays and bly got burned on play action and champ was just cheating up and waiting on help, what i wont cut slack on is bly quitting on the 15 yard line.

[FrontRowSeat1]

What you call slack is accepting the fact Champs possibly lost a step and Bly is a loudmouth who simply did not deliver. You people who accept this and defend it weaken the fan base.

[broncswin]

What you call slack is accepting the fact Champs possibly lost a step and Bly is a loudmouth who simply did not deliver. You people who accept this and defend it weaken the fan base.

First off, Not even sure if champ should have been playing in this game, there is no damn way he was at 100%, three different times he let the rb converge on him and make the hit, when he is fully healthy he comes up and makes the hit. To say he has lost a step is just ignorant:kiddingme , he has been playing run way more than pass this year, he is simply making up for the lack of play up front by our line and weak a$$ LB play.

Secondly, i agree with you on the part of bly, this guys mouth and weak play is gonna run him right outta Denver.:lalalala:

Dont go and say people who look at this rationally our weakening the fan base, I am sure you are the biggest bronco fan on here, but so are the rest of us that bleed orange and blue!!:thumbsup:

[rovolution]

Tyrone Braxton

Tyrone was an incredible cover safety.

Remember his 1996 campaign?

9 INTs. led the league that year i believe and went to the Pro Bowl.

He had incredible instincts and just knew where the ball was.

We need a player like now.

[(Jae)]

What you call slack is accepting the fact Champs possibly lost a step and Bly is a loudmouth who simply did not deliver. You people who accept this and defend it weaken the fan base.

Straight up honest question, smack talk aside.................Is Champ Bailey the best corner in the league?
I see you put quotations on "Best CB on the planet"

I'm just curious your answer.

And if not, who is?

[DarkHorse]

Tyrone was an incredible cover safety.

Remember his 1996 campaign?

9 INTs. led the league that year i believe and went to the Pro Bowl.

He had incredible instincts and just knew where the ball was.

We need a player like now.

Converted cornerback


Maybe we should have kept Tory James? Good size, speed, range, cover skills - nope, Shanny had to flex his muscles.

[BigBad]

Bailey has been looking for his jock ever since Gates juked him out of it.

[Mediator12]

Yep, they did! But to insinuate it was all on them getting beat is inaccurate and you know it!

1. Did they get beat? Absolutely.

2. I am Surprised they did not get beat more playing cover one and cover Zero against the Freakin WORST running team in the NFL. When WR's get the whole Passing tree with No Safety Help for the CB's, they should win the battle around 90% of the time, even with 2 excellent man cover CB's.

3. Brett Favre carved them up all night long because he had all day to throw. Old time DL nightmare again.

4. Playing Off man coverage with eight in the box means the CB's have to read QB's for their keys. That makes PA a lot more effective on go routes with no deep help. A single safety looked off is not adequate help.

5. That being said, Bly was not in off man coverage on his blunder. He actually played a decent press and run. Why he was unable to keep up with Jennings who is NOT a burner looked to be a poor technique of running while finding the ball and being tired.

6. Still the best cover tandem in the league bar none. However, as everyone here knows they get very little support from the rest of the defense and eventually they will get beat like a drum with a QB who has time and is good as Favre, Manning, Brady, etc. The NFL rules gaurantee the offense has the advantage in coverage and the only way defenses can combat that is with consistent pressure on the QB in passing situations. Something that has not been in Denver in a long time.

And BTW, thanks for being such a prick in pointing out the obvious CH. It is about the extent of your usefulness around here ;D

[Paladin]

Ya know, pricks and trolls - ain't no difference between them and they are mostly mullet fans - just focus on the negatives. Why not talk a bit about the play of Cutler, who led the team back to tie the damm game with no time outs and less than two minutes to go?

Please do not quote the trolls. BAN the suckers on general principles......

[Tom A Hawk]

Ya know, pricks and trolls - ain't no difference between them and they are mostly mullet fans - just focus on the negatives. Why not talk a bit about the play of Cutler, who led the team back to tie the damm game with no time outs and less than two minutes to go?

Please do not quote the trolls. BAN the suckers on general principles......


I did see Cutler throw a pass with 22 seconds left in the game that was very poorly thrown. Hit the receiver where he could have caught the pass....game over Denver wins.

[Mediator12]

I did see Cutler throw a pass with 22 seconds left in the game that was very poorly thrown. Hit the receiver where he could have caught the pass....game over Denver wins.

Very true, but also very negative considering the total work on the night and his first non INT game of the year.

What it comes down to is people intentionally being pricks to make them feel better or look better. Saying something is true is not hard, but making it beneficial is hard. Opposing fans trying to act like analysts with "Truth out of context" just pisses everyone off for their own benefit and add nothing to the board. It is the height of egomania and hubris.

It is one thing to have a different perspective, and another one all together to express it in a meaningful way. The reason people hate Trolls is they are predictably negative for obvious reasons, to serve themselves and nothing more.

[55CrushEm]

Very true, but also very negative considering the total work on the night and his first non INT game of the year.

What it comes down to is people intentionally being pricks to make them feel better or look better. Saying something is true is not hard, but making it beneficial is hard. Opposing fans trying to act like analysts with "Truth out of context" just pisses everyone off for their own benefit and add nothing to the board. It is the height of egomania and hubris.

It is one thing to have a different perspective, and another one all together to express it in a meaningful way. The reason people hate Trolls is they are predictably negative for obvious reasons, to serve themselves and nothing more.

QFT......:kcbard:

[Paladin]

I did see Cutler throw a pass with 22 seconds left in the game that was very poorly thrown. Hit the receiver where he could have caught the pass....game over Denver wins.

Fug you, troll. Focus on the overall production of getting the team in position to win. And a ding dong "holding" call wiped out a darn goo run to the seven for Young. Man, pricks like these mullet fans - I am talking to you , Tom A Hump - are just so stupid and gawd awful crapheads. For your information, dumbarse, the pass was where it was supposed to be, dead on. The pass was to the "front" and Marshall was a bit deeper than the route called for. Thus, Marshall could not get back to the ball. If you knew a frigging thing about football, you might be able to help 10 year olds learn something. Of course, they'd be smarter than you......

You are now on ignore, as*hole.


Please do not quote this turd.....

[Bronx33]

We looked like the KC corners (that is sad)

[GreatBronco16]

I did see Cutler throw a pass with 22 seconds left in the game that was very poorly thrown. Hit the receiver where he could have caught the pass....game over Denver wins.

He threw it at the front corner of the endzone. It looked to me that Marshall went in a bit too far and got tied up with the corner and couldn't recover in time to get back to make the catch.

[crazyhorse]

Yep, they did! But to insinuate it was all on them getting beat is inaccurate and you know it!

1. Did they get beat? Absolutely.

2. I am Surprised they did not get beat more playing cover one and cover Zero against the Freakin WORST running team in the NFL. When WR's get the whole Passing tree with No Safety Help for the CB's, they should win the battle around 90% of the time, even with 2 excellent man cover CB's.

3. Brett Favre carved them up all night long because he had all day to throw. Old time DL nightmare again.

4. Playing Off man coverage with eight in the box means the CB's have to read QB's for their keys. That makes PA a lot more effective on go routes with no deep help. A single safety looked off is not adequate help.

5. That being said, Bly was not in off man coverage on his blunder. He actually played a decent press and run. Why he was unable to keep up with Jennings who is NOT a burner looked to be a poor technique of running while finding the ball and being tired.

6. Still the best cover tandem in the league bar none. However, as everyone here knows they get very little support from the rest of the defense and eventually they will get beat like a drum with a QB who has time and is good as Favre, Manning, Brady, etc. The NFL rules gaurantee the offense has the advantage in coverage and the only way defenses can combat that is with consistent pressure on the QB in passing situations. Something that has not been in Denver in a long time.

And BTW, thanks for being such a prick in pointing out the obvious CH. It is about the extent of your usefulness around here ;D

I knew you would chime in where Champ is involved. Dont get too bent out of shape. I never said it was all thier fault. There is certainly blame to go around. However, on the big pass plays Favre didn't stand around all day and wait for it to come open. He dropped back and chucked it.

You mentioned how poor GBs run game was. But it was damn good against your defense. In short, your defense was poor against the run and against the pass. Is it the fault of your D line? You bet. Is it all your D lines fualt? Hell no.

Finally, you mentioned above that I only point out the obvious. That simply isnt true. But I do find that in depth football conversations are wasted most times. I find myself wading through the excuses by one faction or another. Its a circle jerk. Besides, most of my attempts at football debate are moved anyway. Too many cheerleaders.

I guess by saying I was "pointing out the obvious" you agree with me.

Your corners were punked. Everyone on the defense was to blame (except Champ Bailey of course) according to you. I say it was indeed the defense as a whole that contributed to thier getting punked. Not the least of which, Dre Bly. .......and yes Champ Bailey was punked looking in the backfield which is a carreer long habit with him. Thats why he gets his ass handed to him on pump fakes more than any one particular route. In this case he may have bit on play action, but you get the point.

For the record, Bly was beat because the WR got behind him. When he did, he bent his route inside then back out creating automatic separation. No technique Bly would have employed would have worked other than staying over the top. The fact the WR was hit in stride was the key to the success of that play. It didn't allow Bly to overcome letting him by.

[Paladin]

He threw it at the front corner of the endzone. It looked to me that Marshall went in a bit too far and got tied up with the corner and couldn't recover in time to get back to make the catch.

That is correct. Marshall said as much in his post-game interview on 4.....

[Mediator12]

I knew you would chime in where Champ is involved. Dont get too bent out of shape. I never said it was all thier fault. There is certainly blame to go around. However, on the big pass plays Favre didn't stand around all day and wait for it to come open. He dropped back and chucked it.

You mentioned how poor GBs run game was. But it was damn good against your defense. In short, your defense was poor against the run and against the pass. Is it the fault of your D line? You bet. Is it all your D lines fualt? Hell no.

Finally, you mentioned above that I only point out the obvious. That simply isnt true. But I do find that in depth football conversations are wasted most times. I find myself wading through the excuses by one faction or another. Its a circle jerk. Besides, most of my attempts at football debate are moved anyway. Too many cheerleaders.

I guess by saying I was "pointing out the obvious" you agree with me.

Your corners were punked. Everyone on the defense was to blame (except Champ Bailey of course) according to you. I say it was indeed the defense as a whole that contributed to thier getting punked. Not the least of which, Dre Bly. .......and yes Champ Bailey was punked looking in the backfield which is a carreer long habit with him. Thats why he gets his ass handed to him on pump fakes more than any one particular route. In this case he may have bit on play action, but you get the point.

For the record, Bly was beat because the WR got behind him. When he did, he bent his route inside then back out creating automatic separation. No technique Bly would have employed would have worked other than staying over the top. The fact the WR was hit in stride was the key to the success of that play. It didn't allow Bly to overcome letting him by.


Dude, just stop. You are simply repeating what you heard and do not understand.

1. GB threw the ball outside the hash most of the time for the first time all season because that is what the coverage dictated. The middle of the field is a mess versus cover one with eight in the box. Every single team has played cover two against GB because they could stop the run with seven against them. That means the open area of the field was the under middle and the seams.

2. Champ and Dre were left on an island in that coverage and needed a consistent pass rush to keep from getting exposed deep. Both deep passes were seven step drops with no one around Favre to harass the throw.

3. When was the last time you actually engaged in an in depth football discussion? I do not remember it. Saying you do not do it because people are not receptive or it gets moved is a weak excuse. Basically you just admit your only objective is to obfuscate the truth with negative pretense and be a troll.

4. Looking into the backfield is part of playing off coverage. Since Bailey plays that way every play, saying he gets caught looking into the backfield all the time is silly. That is how he gets his reads. Do not let that get in the way of the truth though ;D

5. Bailey and Bly did get thrown at all game, with varying levels of success. However, they both allowed a dramatic deep TD for the first time all year. Overall, they got hung out to dry and paid the price for repeated coverage without pressure. Their primary objective is to not allow the deep ball, and for most of the game they did that in that coverage. As I said Before, I am surprised they did not surrender more big plays with the number of times they were left alone in man coverage.

6. In the end, the OT bomb sealed the use of so much single safety coverage. To say they got punked is to not understand their role in the defense. They did blow that role with the game on the line in OT, but for most of the game they did what they could and kept the ball in front of them surrendering only the one TD in regulation. Unfortunately, they went to the well too often to stop the run against GB with an eight man front and cover three.

7. Bailey got thrown at way more than he normally does and therefore had more balls completed on him than any game since CIN in 2004. In that game, they tried to do the same thing and leave him on an island. Guess what happens then? He gets beat. That is the drawback to this scheme. If they play eight men in the box, man to man, cover three on first downs to stop the run they will give up big plays in the passing game. That is the weakness, especially against good QB's and protection. No CB is going to win that overall matchup, not even Champ with that many opportunities.

8. The only real way they got punked was the repeated exposure to getting beat deep. You can not expect anyone to excel in those situations with today's rules. Well, YOU can but we know what your intent was here. To rub it in outside of context.

[T henry rulz]

Let's face it these guys are right. Point number two is moot if we truly have the shutdown corners we thought we did. If people didn't KNOW they could run on us, Bly would probably be getting burned more often. I think we screwed the pooch paying him all that money.

[Paladin]

You sound about like a stupid mullet fan. Always changing handles to get here to look for attention.......

[T henry rulz]

You sound about like a stupid mullet fan. Always changing handles to get here to look for attention.......

? Look I'm just trying to be realistic, and I'm not the only one here who is. You can throw up your Homer dukes if you want, Bly has shown me Jack. Just because I don't agree with his signing or the opinion that he is a shutdown corner, doesn't make me a "mullet" fan whatever the hell that is. I would imagine a chiefs or raiders fan. I'm pissed off at the direction we are headed, and you should be too IMO.

[Tom A Hawk]

Fug you, troll. Focus on the overall production of getting the team in position to win. And a ding dong "holding" call wiped out a darn goo run to the seven for Young. Man, pricks like these mullet fans - I am talking to you , Tom A Hump - are just so stupid and gawd awful crapheads. For your information, dumbarse, the pass was where it was supposed to be, dead on. The pass was to the "front" and Marshall was a bit deeper than the route called for. Thus, Marshall could not get back to the ball. If you knew a frigging thing about football, you might be able to help 10 year olds learn something. Of course, they'd be smarter than you......

You are now on ignore, as*hole.


Please do not quote this turd.....
boo friggen hoo

[Tom A Hawk]

? Look I'm just trying to be realistic, and I'm not the only one here who is. You can throw up your Homer dukes if you want, Bly has shown me Jack. Just because I don't agree with his signing or the opinion that he is a shutdown corner, doesn't make me a "mullet" fan whatever the hell that is. I would imagine a chiefs or raiders fan. I'm pissed off at the direction we are headed, and you should be too IMO.
wasting your time with this dufus......his greatest come back is troll and mullet...other than that he has nothing.

[Spider]

Let's face it these guys are right. Point number two is moot if we truly have the shutdown corners we thought we did. If people didn't KNOW they could run on us, Bly would probably be getting burned more often. I think we screwed the pooch paying him all that money.

LOL you have no idea who Mediator 12 is do you , you should read more of his stuff

[T henry rulz]

It's not like all the Broncos fans shouldn't agree with all the slaps in the face. they are all true. Just screwing around about Champ, but the rest is dead on. Bly for you guys is Kendrel Bell for the Chiefs. A waste of money. Shutdown corner? BWAAAAAAAHAAAAAAHAAAAAA.

[T henry rulz]

LOL you have no idea who Mediator 12 is do you , you should read more of his stuff

I was quoting THAT post. Nothing more or less.

[Spider]

I was quoting THAT post. Nothing more or less.

so .....you still should read Mediator 12 alot more

[Tom A Hawk]

He threw it at the front corner of the endzone. It looked to me that Marshall went in a bit too far and got tied up with the corner and couldn't recover in time to get back to make the catch.

makes reasonable sense. regardless of my comment, I do think Cutler is going to be one of the greats. He is learning fast, one of the smart ones. He needs to get a little more comfortable in the pocket.

[crazyhorse]

Dude, just stop. You are simply repeating what you heard and do not understand.

1. GB threw the ball outside the hash most of the time for the first time all season because that is what the coverage dictated. The middle of the field is a mess versus cover one with eight in the box. Every single team has played cover two against GB because they could stop the run with seven against them. That means the open area of the field was the under middle and the seams.

2. Champ and Dre were left on an island in that coverage and needed a consistent pass rush to keep from getting exposed deep. Both deep passes were seven step drops with no one around Favre to harass the throw.

3. When was the last time you actually engaged in an in depth football discussion? I do not remember it. Saying you do not do it because people are not receptive or it gets moved is a weak excuse. Basically you just admit your only objective is to obfuscate the truth with negative pretense and be a troll.

4. Looking into the backfield is part of playing off coverage. Since Bailey plays that way every play, saying he gets caught looking into the backfield all the time is silly. That is how he gets his reads. Do not let that get in the way of the truth though ;D

5. Bailey and Bly did get thrown at all game, with varying levels of success. However, they both allowed a dramatic deep TD for the first time all year. Overall, they got hung out to dry and paid the price for repeated coverage without pressure. Their primary objective is to not allow the deep ball, and for most of the game they did that in that coverage. As I said Before, I am surprised they did not surrender more big plays with the number of times they were left alone in man coverage.

6. In the end, the OT bomb sealed the use of so much single safety coverage. To say they got punked is to not understand their role in the defense. They did blow that role with the game on the line in OT, but for most of the game they did what they could and kept the ball in front of them surrendering only the one TD in regulation. Unfortunately, they went to the well too often to stop the run against GB with an eight man front and cover three.

7. Bailey got thrown at way more than he normally does and therefore had more balls completed on him than any game since CIN in 2004. In that game, they tried to do the same thing and leave him on an island. Guess what happens then? He gets beat. That is the drawback to this scheme. If they play eight men in the box, man to man, cover three on first downs to stop the run they will give up big plays in the passing game. That is the weakness, especially against good QB's and protection. No CB is going to win that overall matchup, not even Champ with that many opportunities.

8. The only real way they got punked was the repeated exposure to getting beat deep. You can not expect anyone to excel in those situations with today's rules. Well, YOU can but we know what your intent was here. To rub it in outside of context.

You sure got a long winded, funny, easier to swallow way of saying they got punked. But it's good to see we agree.

I mean really, other that a pissing match, what's your point? No amount of cracking on me is going to change last week.

BTW, Bailey has been looking in the backfield his entire carreer. Not just in this scheme.

[Bronx33]

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[Hammer]

I am amazed at the fact that no matter how many personnel and coaching changes, we cant get a consistent pass rush. It feels like 50 years since we applied consistent pressure on an opposing quarterback. Depressing.

[broncofan2438]

Can we put this in the Horses Butt thread please?

[KCStud]

We looked like the KC corners (that is sad)

You mean the KC CB's that are 2nd in the league in passing TD's allowed?

[Northman]

You mean the KC CB's that are 2nd in the league in passing TD's allowed?


Probably more like the K.C corners who are getting a ****load of help from their Defensive line.

[KCStud]

Probably more like the K.C corners who are getting a ****load of help from their Defensive line.

Isn't that how it's supposed to be?

[Doggcow]

You mean the KC CB's that are 2nd in the league in passing TD's allowed?

Yea, that KC team that's gone against monster passers the likes of Tavaris Jackson(Did he even play?), Matt Schuab (Did he even play?), and Brian Greise.

Yea, Brett Farve is nowhere near their calibur. :giggle:

[Cito Pelon]

I'll post on a troll thread only to say - Why do you dopes reply?

[crazyhorse]

I'll post on a troll thread only to say - Why do you dopes reply?

What if you had asked the same question? Would it be valid then?

[Orange_Beard]

Enjoy your crow tonight.