Something Cutler should learn from Peyton Manning: Scan the Field

[The MVPlaya]

I'm surprised this hasn't been talked about a lot more on here...Cutler has improved on scanning through different receivers, however, a lot of the time, he has a set target and sticks with it. He'll stare down his target...

Manning sees the whole field, and he scans it.

For those who recorded the game...re-watch the first quarter I believe it was. It was a bootleg to Sheffler...if you watch the replay, on the upper right of your screen, you can literally see Marshall (I think it was) WIDE open. The defender had slipped and fell and Marshall was ALONE. Maybe Coaches told him not to launch that far this game? Who knows?

At the end of the game too, I didn't see it because the cameras never gave us that view, but according to the announcers, Marshall was wide open on the play where Cutler had an incomplete pass...it was thrown way off (not the Marshall one in the endzone). Announcers made it seem like Marshall was alone down field.

Scan the field! :redpunch:

[bpc]

he's getting better at it. It takes time.

[Doggcow]

He does lock in really bad.

[Killericon]

What? Our 2nd year QB doesn't yet have as good of a grasp on the game as Peyton Manning?

GET OUT! BUST!!!

[BroncoBuff]

He looked more lost than usual on a couppla plays tonight ... but he's a HECKUVA LOT better than John Elway was 12 games into his career. Give him the rest of this year and next summer .... things will slow down more for him and we'll forget about all this stuff.

And Jay is stone cold MONEY in the 4th quarter ...

[The MVPlaya]

Nah, haha even tho I made this thread, I'm just surprised no one has spoken about it.

I love Jay Cutler. Call it a man crush if you want...but I'm all in it for this guy...he's an amazing player.

I will always wonder tho, did Shanahan mean to draft Cutler or Leinert? hahah

[Doggcow]

And Jay is stone cold MONEY in the 4th quarter ...

Or at least on game winning drives. (He set us up to win that game, the playcalling let us down)

[BroncoBuff]

And MVP ... you're right about both those Marshall observations. Why aren't we throwing deep now and then? I don't get it. Especially after seeing Favre launch two L O N G TD passes.

Maybe some of tonight's bootlegs were intended to set up deep passes, but the defense didn't give him time to set up and huck it. Cutler was nailed quite often tonight when he left the pocket, for some serious losses. Gotta hand it to the Packers ... they were very disciplined in sniffing out all our misdirection.

[Popps]

Manning sees the whole field, and he scans it.

Like some have said, this does take time. Things will slow down for him.

What concerns me is his drop, his stance and his reaction to pressure with regards to how he steps forward to make a throw.

Watching the tape again. He did show some good mechanics early on, but it got worse as the game went on. By the 3rd quarter, he's just sort of stumbling backwards, literally like he PLANS to throw the ball from his back foot.

The Manning reference is a good one in that if you watch that guy from the time he takes the snap, he's robotic in his movement backward, and then forward. Even when he's scanning, he's moving momentum forward with the ball high, ready to rip it.

Jay looks too much like a kid with a great arm who's been sort of trotted out there to just use it however he wants.

If you look at baseball pitchers, golf, tennis, any other highly mechanical motion... top pros 10 years into their careers are working with mechanics coaches to improve flaws.

So, before Team-Obvious points out that it's only his 10th (or so) game... that's the whole point, here. Someone needs to nip these probs in the bud before they get worse. We've got a potential monster QB here in the pivotal stages of his development.

[The MVPlaya]

Manning sees the whole field, and he scans it.

Like some have said, this does take time. Things will slow down for him.

What concerns me is his drop, his stance and his reaction to pressure with regards to how he steps forward to make a throw.

Watching the tape again. He did show some good mechanics early on, but it got worse as the game went on. By the 3rd quarter, he's just sort of stumbling backwards, literally like he PLANS to throw the ball from his back foot.

The Manning reference is a good one in that if you watch that guy from the time he takes the snap, he's robotic in his movement backward, and then forward. Even when he's scanning, he's moving momentum forward with the ball high, ready to rip it.

Jay looks too much like a kid with a great arm who's been sort of trotted out there to just use it however he wants.

If you look at baseball pitchers, golf, tennis, any other highly mechanical motion... top pros 10 years into their careers are working with mechanics coaches to improve flaws.

So, before Team-Obvious points out that it's only his 10th (or so) game... that's the whole point, here. Someone needs to nip these probs in the bud before they get worse. We've got a potential monster QB here in the pivotal stages of his development.

Yeah...Manning's mechanics are just flawless...

[BowlenBall]

Cutler is a helluva quarterback, and he's only gonna get better. This is our season to be patient and suffer through some of the growing pains.

Shame he didn't get the TD to Marshall in the last few seconds of regulation there, but he did lead us down the field to tie the game, and he didn't fumble/throw an INT in crunch time (a la Griese and Plummer!).

Cutler's not the problem, he's the solution. We might be in the middle of a rebuilding season, but even our rebuilding years are a helluva lot better than other teams' (a la Oakland and KC)

[Taco John]

Apparently people have completely forgotton what a deer in headlights Peyton was in his first full season as a starter.

Manning threw 28 interceptions with a 56.7 completion percentage, and a 71.2 quarterback rating. By comparison, Cutler has thrown 8 with half the season done, is currently sporting a 65.6 completion percentage, and an impressive 86.0 passer rating.

Cutler is doing just fine.

[The MVPlaya]

Apparently people have completely forgotton what a deer in headlights Peyton was in his first full season as a starter.

Manning threw 28 interceptions with a 56.7 completion percentage, and a 71.2 quarterback rating. By comparison, Cutler has thrown 8 with half the season done, is currently sporting a 65.6 completion percentage, and an impressive 86.0 passer rating.

Cutler is doing just fine.

I was just looking up Peyton's stats...he had some tough years before he became super elite...

The problem is, it's human nature to want NOW..NOW!...and honestly Cutler is giving us more than any QB...

To be honest with everyone, some people are just plain spoiled with how they react to Cutler. I made this thread just pointing something out, but I'm not bashing him.

Cutler is amazing. Look at Brady's earlier years too.

[Popps]

Apparently people have completely forgotton what a deer in headlights Peyton was in his first full season as a starter.


He also played on a total garbage team and was thrown to the wolves out of the gate.

Cutler had a half-season to learn the offense before his first snap, and is (supposedly) working with one of the most QB-friendly coaches on earth.

People just need to quit being so tender-assed about the kid. Wanting him to avoid getting into bad mechanical habits as he's developing doesn't mean we don't like him, Taco. Quite the contrary.

[frerottenextelway]

If peeps want to call a spade a spade, JC has been better than JE for all but a few of JE's years. Not much u can do when the LG plays DE on a play.

[Popps]

Jay's going to get there. We've got much bigger concerns than him... trust me.

[boltaneer]

I don't watch every snap of Bronco games but I have watched the past two weeks since they've been on prime time and I'll usually catch good portions of their other games.

From what I've noticed, Cutler is great with his first read (yeah, who isn't?). But because he has such a cannon, he can make those plays even when the window is tight, which a lot of QBs can't.

When the first read isn't there, that's where he seems to struggle. A lot of times he seems to take too long to go through his progressions. The game just needs to slow down for him as it does for all young quarterbacks. I believe all the experts say it usually takes 32 starts or so before it happens.

He often stares down his receivers. But Brees was doing that in San Diego even in his Pro-Bowl year. It took a designed play to really get him to look off a safety. Rivers still stares down his receivers all the time. It's hard for young quarterbacks to break this habit as they're processing so much information in a short period of time.

Anyway, I don't think his mechanics look that horrible. Yeah, he sometimes doesn't step into the throw when someone is in his face but a lot of quarterbacks do that and can make the play anyway. Look at Favre. His mechanics are often horrible but he'll hit his receiver right between the numbers.

I'm not really high on Cutler like most people here but I will say this in defense of him, the playcalling, especially in the red-zone and sometimes in crutial points of the game just seem bizarre and ultra conservative. I understand Shanahan has a young quarterback to take into consideration with his play calls but it seems like he still thinks Jake Plummer is out there for him.

[Xenos]

I don't watch every snap of Bronco games but I have watched the past two weeks since they've been on prime time and I'll usually catch good portions of their other games.

From what I've noticed, Cutler is great with his first read (yeah, who isn't?). But because he has such a cannon, he can make those plays even when the window is tight, which a lot of QBs can't.

When the first read isn't there, that's where he seems to struggle. A lot of times he seems to take too long to go through his progressions. The game just needs to slow down for him as it does for all young quarterbacks. I believe all the experts say it usually takes 32 starts or so before it happens.

He often stares down his receivers. But Brees was doing that in San Diego even in his Pro-Bowl year. It took a designed play to really get him to look off a safety. Rivers still stares down his receivers all the time. It's hard for young quarterbacks to break this habit as they're processing so much information in a short period of time.

Anyway, I don't think his mechanics look that horrible. Yeah, he sometimes doesn't step into the throw when someone is in his face but a lot of quarterbacks do that and can make the play anyway. Look at Favre. His mechanics are often horrible but he'll hit his receiver right between the numbers.

I'm not really high on Cutler like most people here but I will say this in defense of him, the playcalling, especially in the red-zone and sometimes in crutial points of the game just seem bizarre and ultra conservative. I understand Shanahan has a young quarterback to take into consideration with his play calls but it seems like he still thinks Jake Plummer is out there for him.
What designed play was this? Was it the whole summer practicing blindfolded gimmick?

[Spider]

What? Our 2nd year QB doesn't yet have as good of a grasp on the game as Peyton Manning?

GET OUT! BUST!!!

LOL .....

[-Slap-]

Holy ****ing ****. This board is populated by retards. Cutler completed 62% of his passes against the best pass rushing team in the NFC, minus his number one WR, minus his starting RB, minus his ****ing center, and there are clowns on this board who are upset because he doesn't scan the field like Peyton Manning in his 12th pro start.

I mean seriously, this board and 90% of the posters are either agenda driven imbeciles or they simply have no idea how any of this **** actually works. Somebody post another picture of Jake Plummer in his handball getup so these losers will have something else to jerk off about.

[Spider]

Holy ****ing ****. This board is populated by retards. Cutler completed 62% of his passes against the best pass rushing team in the NFC, minus his number one WR, minus his starting RB, minus his ****ing center, and there are clowns on this board who are upset because he doesn't scan the field like Peyton Manning in his 12th pro start.

I mean seriously, this board and 90% of the posters are either agenda driven imbeciles or they simply have no idea how any of this **** actually works. Somebody post another picture of Jake Plummer in his handball getup so these losers will have something else to jerk off about.
so I take it you disagree with this thread ;D

[TheReverend]

By the 3rd quarter, he's just sort of stumbling backwards, literally like he PLANS to throw the ball from his back foot. [/B]

Am I forgetting something? I'm pretty sure he only had one quick possesion in the 3rd quarter?

[-Slap-]

so I take it you disagree with this thread ;D

Bad enough to take a **** loss, but then the usual clueless morons have to crawl out of the woodwork and flash their lack of knowledge and dickless agendas. It just gets so ****ing tiresome. We had one moron blaming Cutler because Kuper slapped the ball out of his hands. More idiots who complain Jay doesn't have perfect mechanics with Aaron Kampman hanging off him all night. I realize most of the jagovs doing the whining had never heard of Aaron Kampman before last night, but it's no excuse.

[Spider]

Bad enough to take a **** loss, but then the usual clueless morons have to crawl out of the woodwork and flash their lack of knowledge and dickless agendas. It just gets so ****ing tiresome. We had one moron blaming Cutler because Kuper slapped the ball out of his hands. More idiots who complain Jay doesn't have perfect mechanics with Aaron Kampman hanging off him all night. I realize most of the jagovs doing the whining had never heard of Aaron Kampman before last night, but it's no excuse.

And on that note ;D ..... I do get tired of the We have holes threads , Shanny out coached , we suck threads .......

[-Slap-]

Well all of that is true.

[Spider]

Well all of that is true.

of course it is , but this is a young team , they are bound to make mistakes , have holes , Shanny has to consider he has a very young QB , back there , He has to try and keep Jay in the best possible situations he can , we lost alot of starters from a year ago one reason or another , but these we got holes threads have been on going for a long time ...... Cutler is learning fast , and doing a good job considering .....

[fontaine]

GB has only allowed one other QB to throw for more yards and a higher completion percentage than Jay Cutler and it was Rivers.

Cutler was also the only QB so far that didn't get intercepted against GB. We're missing our number 1 WR and Jay still throws up a solid performance.

Yeah it would be great for him to scan the field but for who?

We've got a young number 2 WR, and a career slot guy starting for us with Scheff not playing all snaps because his blocking is suspect and this is against two of the best in Woodson and Harris. Yeah the kid holds on the ball too much and locks in sometimes but that's by design and not choice. He's admitted it himself because he wants to give his WRs more time to get open.

[Crushaholic]

Cutler does lock on receivers, but he's getting better at not throwing off his back foot. His mechanics are improving. He'll be fine. I'm worried about our "can't buy a stop" _efense...

[Raiders Rock]

No offense, Cutler is good and will be an excellent QB for a long time in the NFL but you can forget about comparing him to Peyton.... ever

[Garcia Bronco]

Apparently people have completely forgotton what a deer in headlights Peyton was in his first full season as a starter.

Manning threw 28 interceptions with a 56.7 completion percentage, and a 71.2 quarterback rating. By comparison, Cutler has thrown 8 with half the season done, is currently sporting a 65.6 completion percentage, and an impressive 86.0 passer rating.

Cutler is doing just fine.

Exactly