Travis Henry questions

[Jetmeck]

So did he or didn't he give them hair samples as I read here ? Giving a hair sample and a lie detector test would seem to point toward innocence if you ask me. The hair samples would hold the drugs for months.

I don't care for his ESCAPADES anymore than the rest of you but it is his personal life. If he is innocent I want him here. With our relatively young O-line we need a hammer type back. Young sure as hell won't get much yardage regularly. He might bust one now and again but without a big hole I doubt he does much. Henry can make his own
hole.

Don't turn this into a Henry or Young thing. I just want to know if he actually followed through with the hair sample.
I mean he has given a urine sample and maybe now a hair sample and we already know he gives out semen samples regularly. LOL

[Broncoman13]

T-Henry makes Fragile Freddy look like Clay Mathews!

[Jetmeck]

Please, he has had to earn most of his yards by himself. You try it ? He'll play Monday anyway.

[That One Guy]

The issue is that he could donate hair, urine, and semen samples to anyone he wants and throw em from rooftops but the NFL standards for testing are the urine samples they have in their labs. I last saw that there's supposed to be a hearing in November to settle this and once it's settled there, no matter what Henry wants to produce... it wont matter. It'll look bad on the NFL as someone trying to put up all this evidence of his innocence makes the system look flawed... but it is what it is. What's next, someone that can produce 17 nuns to vouch that he was pinned down and had marijuana smoke blown in his face? The NFL has to say sorry, your urine samples showed a banned substance. See ya in 12 months

[Jetmeck]

The issue is that he could donate hair, urine, and semen samples to anyone he wants and throw em from rooftops but the NFL standards for testing are the urine samples they have in their labs. I last saw that there's supposed to be a hearing in November to settle this and once it's settled there, no matter what Henry wants to produce... it wont matter. It'll look bad on the NFL as someone trying to put up all this evidence of his innocence makes the system look flawed... but it is what it is. What's next, someone that can produce 17 nuns to vouch that he was pinned down and had marijuana smoke blown in his face? The NFL has to say sorry, your urine samples showed a banned substance. See ya in 12 months


That being the case and I have sen other companies take the hard ass stance with these tests before even though they know they can be flawed. Henry should have his own tests run. If they came back negative the NFL would have to do something. Course this could take months and we would be screwed anyway.

The bottom line which most of these hardass companies don't seem to see is getting it right, period !

[That One Guy]

Just as you said though. It would take months to figure out if they allowed the player to go out, find his own tests, produce all of his own evidence.. this isn't a trial. The urine sample testing is found reliable enough to suffice in courts of law, it's sufficient for me to believe that he had drugs in his system. I don't care if he produces his own mommy to tell me otherwise.

And, as I said before, taking a hair sample may seem reasonable to most but where does it stop? They'd just keep pushing the envelope on excuses and evidence and the drug testing policy would become one big joke (as if it isn't already).

Ricky Williams, I believe it was, was just bragging a few years ago about how long he'd been beating the drug tests so when these people finally do get caught, they deserve to get nailed. I'd like to see what the percentage is that actually get caught, I bet it's very low.

[cutthemdown]

Henry like all recent Bronco running backs is a short termer. If he gets suspended then he's done in Denver after this year. If he doesn't then Broncos would probably get another year out of him. After that he would most likely be replaced. Every year Broncos look around at RB's so I wouldn't be surprised to see another FA or Rookie next yr. Selvin looks like he may be in Broncos plans for a few years though.

[crazyhorse]

If Henry could make his own hole, why does he have 9 kids? I'm not buying it.

[ChampBailey24]

If Henry could make his own hole, why does he have 9 kids? I'm not buying it.

hahahaha rep!

[chrisp]

I believe that central to henry's appeal was the fact that he wasn't granted the right to have his own guy present when the original tests were conducted. If that's true, and if there's any substance to these claims, then all the other samples he's providing will be purely supporting information.

If the NFL can be shown to have NOT followed due process, then this is ultimately what the case will hinge on, but showing additional test data to confirm his innocence would still be relevant, becuase it lends credibility to the suggestion that the failure to follow due process in this case was significant.

I mean I don't know the letter of the law on this, but presumably as it is an internal NFL procedure rather than a public legal issue (as I understand it), the NFL could always say, yes we didn't follow due process and grant you your rights, but tough, we think that doesn't make any difference and you're guilty anyway. A whole bunch of competing test data that shows Henry as innocent will lend weight to the suggestion that the test processwas flawed.

That's just my take on it - can't say I'm intimately familiar with the process or the letter of the rules themselves.

[cmhargrove]

I believe that central to henry's appeal was the fact that he wasn't granted the right to have his own guy present when the original tests were conducted. If that's true, and if there's any substance to these claims, then all the other samples he's providing will be purely supporting information.

If the NFL can be shown to have NOT followed due process, then this is ultimately what the case will hinge on, but showing additional test data to confirm his innocence would still be relevant, becuase it lends credibility to the suggestion that the failure to follow due process in this case was significant.

I mean I don't know the letter of the law on this, but presumably as it is an internal NFL procedure rather than a public legal issue (as I understand it), the NFL could always say, yes we didn't follow due process and grant you your rights, but tough, we think that doesn't make any difference and you're guilty anyway. A whole bunch of competing test data that shows Henry as innocent will lend weight to the suggestion that the test processwas flawed.

That's just my take on it - can't say I'm intimately familiar with the process or the letter of the rules themselves.

What we really have here is the fact that Henry is busted, and he has a clever lawyer trying to get him off on a techincality. He lied, he did smoke weed, or knew he was in the room with others doing it. Did I mention he lied and screwed the team, knowing the consequences? He's a selfish a-hole, and if he doesn't cost us now, he will cost us in the future.

Cut his ass, go on. We don't need any more of this crap on our team. My three kids cheer for the Broncos and they know what kind of a bad dude Henry is. That makes me feel a little icky when I have to explain all this stuff to them.

I believe in Shanhan's view of "innocent until proven guilty." I think that is respectful. But when he loses his appeal, let's not look back.