Bolts acquire WR Chambers from Miami

[55CrushEm]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7340346

[bronco militia]

well that sucks

[Flex Gunmetal]

Hmmmm

[55CrushEm]

well that sucks

Yeah....that is a big boost for their subpar WR group.....Bolts just got better.

[CBF1]

Should make him a true #3 WR on my fantasy team :)

[Northman]

Now aint that some ****.

[BlaK-Argentina]

Having watched a LOT of Dolphins games for the past few years, I'm telling you, he is not THAT good. He can make a spectacular catch here and there but he drops a good amount of easy ones too.

Besides, we have Champ. :)

[bronco militia]

Having watched a LOT of Dolphins games for the past few years, I'm telling you, he is not THAT good. He can make a spectacular catch here and there but he drops a good amount of easy ones too.

Besides, we hace Champ. :)

He's enough of a threat for the defense to worry about and then figure in LT, Gates, and a Jackson....

it's a nice 'problem' to have

[Popps]

Wow. Nice move for the doltz.

[Atwater His Ass]

Chambers is a very good reciever. I agree, SD just got better.

[Killericon]

****.

[400HZ]

I guess I wasn't the only one getting pissed off by Jackson.

[broncosteven]

I guess I wasn't the only one getting pissed off by Jackson.

Damn i really liked watching the ball pop out of Jackson's hands.

good move.

[jmz313]

Damn, that is a good pickup for a team that was not that threatening outside.

[WyoLaw]

Good move by the Chargers.

[Northman]

Having watched a LOT of Dolphins games for the past few years, I'm telling you, he is not THAT good. He can make a spectacular catch here and there but he drops a good amount of easy ones too.

Besides, we have Champ. :)


Maybe, maybe not. He has played for one of the worst teams in the league the past few years. Take his talent and put it on a much better team he may be a allstar once again. The Bolts already had a lot of weapons without him, now he just gives them one more weapon to choose from.

[Garcia Bronco]

Chambers is done...err...yeah...that's the ticket

[Beantown Bronco]

I'm surprised the Pats didn't pick him up....

[go_broncos]

Cameron..U ARE AN IDIOT..

First u traded welker to NE and then now u traded Chambers to SD..

HOW DID U BECAME AN HEAD COACH IDIOT...

[NFLBRONCO]

What kind of QB's has Miami had to make Chambers good recently ummm NONE.

[WyoLaw]

I guess the good news is they gave up a second rounder for him. Or so it was reported.

[ozomulsion]

What kind of QB's has Miami had to make Chambers good recently ummm NONE.

Bingo! Badingo!

[richpjr]

Just the threat of a receiver like Chambers will give Gates and LT more room underneath. The Chargers offense just got more dangerous.

[bpc]

He's the AFC's vesion of Daryl Jackson. He is a boom or bust type that can dominate games. SD definitely got better from this move and it helps Rivers as he has another large fast target to go with Gates.

Don't worry though, we're content with our weaknesses on defense, no moves need to be made! :)

[KCStud]

So I guess the Bolts don't have faith in Craig Davis..now they only have a 1st round draft pick next year.
Bolts are falling apart fast. Either this offseason or next(can't remember) they are going to have a lot of big name players become FA's in the same offseason and they won't be able to keep them all. Merriman and Castillo are the one's I know but there are more.

[BlaK-Argentina]

What kind of QB's has Miami had to make Chambers good recently ummm NONE.

I've seen him drop perfectly thrown balls. The problem with him is not talent, but focus and effort sometimes. He will definitely be better in SD though.

[HorseHead]

I just remember the hit Kenoy laid on him in that Monday Night game....I know we got beat that night but we were laying the wood....man I wish our defense now..ummm never mind.....

[bronco militia]

I just remember the hit Kenoy laid on him in that Monday Night game....I know we got beat that night but we were laying the wood....man I wish our defense now..ummm never mind.....

Ray Rhodes defense was no better or different than Coyer's

[HorseHead]

true bronco militia.....

[BlaK-Argentina]

Ray Rhodes defense was no better or different than Coyer's

I'd take any of them instead of what we have NOW.

[bpc]

So I guess the Bolts don't have faith in Craig Davis..now they only have a 1st round draft pick next year.
Bolts are falling apart fast. Either this offseason or next(can't remember) they are going to have a lot of big name players become FA's in the same offseason and they won't be able to keep them all. Merriman and Castillo are the one's I know but there are more.

I think anytime you can add a potential missing peice, you have to do so. Chambers, 8 year vet or so is an improvement over what Jackson and Davis are right now. It doens't hinder their progress, if anything it takes the pressure off them.

Giving up a 2nd is a steep price for any team but SD is clearly lacking at WR. Good move for them as they are trying to save this year.

[toad]

Increases Jackson's fantasy value IMO....Gates and Chambers will occupy defense's pass coverage and, of course, you always have to worry about LT. Jackson hasn't proved to be #1 material but he'll probably flourish as a #2 w/ Gates and LT around.

[boltaneer]

So I guess the Bolts don't have faith in Craig Davis..now they only have a 1st round draft pick next year.
Bolts are falling apart fast. Either this offseason or next(can't remember) they are going to have a lot of big name players become FA's in the same offseason and they won't be able to keep them all. Merriman and Castillo are the one's I know but there are more.

Huh? Davis is a rookie. A big contribution from him this year would have been a nice bonus but nothing that was expected. Besides, many people think he'll be a lot more dangerous in the slot.

I love this trade despite the somewhat steep price to acquire him. Chambers has been a pretty damn good reciever over the years for the Dolphins despite playing with a number of subpar QBs on those teams. He is very familiar with Norv's offense because he played under him before and because he picked up Cameron's offense this year. He should get up to speed in a few weeks (including the bye week).

This was obviously done because Eric Parker is going to IR. They were expecting to get the WR corps going again when he came back since obviously, Vincent Jackson has been a big disappointment this year.

Merriman and Castillo are signed through 2009. I would expect one of them to get an extension this upcoming offseason and the other during the next salary year. Rivers is up in 2010. Those are the biggest ones. The Chargers have been managing the cap extremely well so I don't expect too much of a problem extending all of those if they so desire.

[DarkHorse]

He's much better than people give him credit for. Great move by San Diego - ouch.

Why didn't we get involved in that one? Questionable Javon, no Rod, Stokely is a 3rd, and nobody else behind Marshall?

[DarkHorse]

I didn't see what they gave for him - a 1st? That explains why we didn't get in on that.

I wouldn't want us giving a 1st for him - still a great move by SD

[boltaneer]

I didn't see what they gave for him - a 1st? That explains why we didn't get in on that.

I wouldn't want us giving a 1st for him - still a great move by SD

It was a second.

I get the feeling that the Chargers could have had him for a third but they traded that to move up and get Weddle in the draft.

The Chargers may get a pretty decent comp pick for Donnie Edwards next year. I'm hoping for a 3rd but it will probably be a 4th.

I agree with the general consensus here that Denver should stop going after free agents and trading their draft picks for vets and try to really build the team with the draft, espeically in the trenches. Problem is that Shanahan hasn't exactly been pulling off great drafts in recent years.

[dungbeetle]

I didn't see what they gave for him - a 1st? That explains why we didn't get in on that.

I wouldn't want us giving a 1st for him - still a great move by SD

No, we gave up a 2nd for him. I think it's well worth it considering, barring injuries, we're not at a point right now where we need to be rebuilding through the draft.

[NFLBRONCO]

I've seen him drop perfectly thrown balls. The problem with him is not talent, but focus and effort sometimes. He will definitely be better in SD though.


I have seen this too plenty. Miami is starting from scratch it seems.

[Orange_Beard]

It's a solid move. I just don't think Phillip is very good. Chambers may draw some coverage but no one can stop Gates, even though Phillip stares him down...

[400HZ]

It's gotta be an upgrade. Even with TrInt throwing him the ball in Miami, he still has almost as many receptions this year as our WR corps does combined. I also think it's reasonable to expect his production to increase with a stable QB situation. Since 05, he's had Frerotte, Rosenfel, Culpepper, Harrington, Lemon, and TrInt throwing him the ball at various times.... hardly an ideal situation for a wide receiver. Sort of like Randy Moss.. :wiggle:

[REB]

I've never been all that crazy about Chambers. He gives up on a lot of plays and is too streaky.

[rugbythug]

Wasn't it chambers in the Drunk Driver Video?

[400HZ]

That was Boston.

[go_broncos]

Cameron..please Retire..

U Are Unfit...

[Circle Orange]

Biig acquisition for the Bolts. If they can get this guy to play to his ability, with him and Gates? I don't want to think about it. Get the feeling the SoCal boys in powder blue still want to make a run?

[Drek]

Chambers is a grossly overrated WR. Someone compared him to Darrell Jackson earlier, thats a pretty good comp. Chambers is a little more athletic and he's been the lone target on his team for a number of years so his numbers are more impressive on the whole, but he isn't a pro-bowl WR. I'd basically say he's what Vincent Jackson could be several years down the road, a gifted but inconsistent player who has as much potential to hurt his team as help them on Sunday.

That said, he's a fair sight better than what they've been sending out there so far, and bumping all the current guys down a peg on the depth chart makes it a lot easier on the whole receiving corps. There's also a chance they catch lightening in a bottle and get a run of "good" Chambers that could carry them pretty far.

A 2nd is a very high price to pay, especially when they've been drafting so well in recent years, but a window to seriously contend is short lived in the NFL, better to strike while the iron is hot than constantly hover on the periphery.

Personally though, I think its a wasted pick. They can't beat the Colts or Patriots without some significant breaks going their way and at this point it seems inevitable that those two will get the #1 and #2 seeds for the playoffs. Crazy that we're only just done with week 6 and the two dominant teams of the NFL are so clearly established.

They better really soak up the bye week because after that they get Houston, Minny, J'ville, Indy, and the rat birds for a real bad stretch.

[BigBad]

They can't beat the Colts or Patriots without some significant breaks going their way and at this point it seems inevitable that those two will get the #1 and #2 seeds for the playoffs. Crazy that we're only just done with week 6 and the two dominant teams of the NFL are so clearly established.


ANYTHING can happen in the playoffs. Should a Bronco fan realize that? I mean losing to Jax at home.

[400HZ]

He definetely gives us a better shot in the playoffs, which are still 12 weeks away. A lot can happen between then and now. The Bears were invincible last year around this time.

[Smiling Assassin27]

very nice move, imo. of course, he's a lot like jackson, not a possession guy. i guess gates can be the possession guy.

[400HZ]

very nice move, imo. of course, he's a lot like jackson, not a possession guy. i guess gates can be the possession guy.


He's gonna have to be since Parker is officially IR'ed now. Gates has done a pretty decent job this season thus far. :strong:

[KCStud]

I think anytime you can add a potential missing peice, you have to do so. Chambers, 8 year vet or so is an improvement over what Jackson and Davis are right now. It doens't hinder their progress, if anything it takes the pressure off them.

Giving up a 2nd is a steep price for any team but SD is clearly lacking at WR. Good move for them as they are trying to save this year.

I have to disagree with that. I think the biggest missing piece on your team is in your secondary.
And yes your offense is really good. Reminds me of the Chiefs offense in 2004. I think that a CB or S would have been a better pick up than a WR because you have receiving threats like Gates, LT, Jackson who is doing well, and a young Davis who can only continue to grow.
Ultimately, SD is going to get destroyed by NE and IND because both of those teams are doing an outstanding job of throwing the ball down the field and the Chargers are struggling to stop the pass.

[Xenos]

I have to disagree with that. I think the biggest missing piece on your team is in your secondary.
And yes your offense is really good. Reminds me of the Chiefs offense in 2004. I think that a CB or S would have been a better pick up than a WR because you have receiving threats like Gates, LT, Jackson who is doing well, and a young Davis who can only continue to grow.
Ultimately, SD is going to get destroyed by NE and IND because both of those teams are doing an outstanding job of throwing the ball down the field and the Chargers are struggling to stop the pass.

There isn't exactly anyone we can get through trade who is a top safety, which is what we need more than corners at the moment. Hopefully Weddle steps up soon.

[Hogan11]

I certainly wasn't impressed by him this past Sunday (Had the Miami/Cleveland game here)...It seems like a great pickup now but in the end, I don't think he'll make that much of a difference.

[Breaker]

In a word ****. That a great move.

[-Slap-]

Very solid move by the Bolts. Now Rabbit Ears Rivers is the only weak link on offense.

[Malcontent]

Give Chambers a few games to assimilate, and he should thrive in this offense. LT will keep the safety in, and Chambers will fly. Shiat! This is the bolts I'm talking about here!

[400HZ]

Jackson and Davis are more suited as #2 and #3 receivers right now. I think Davis will turn out pretty good, but Jackson hasn't overcome his division II rawness and it's looking like he never will. Regardless, both will be on the field enough to show what they have if they want to step up. Jackson and Davis are both somewhat injury prone too, so we need depth since Parker isn't going to make it back this year.

Our safeties are bleh, but we have Weddle who should hopefully take over soon. Better coverage isn't the way to beat the Pats and Colts anyways, it's about the pass rush, roughing Brady and Peyton up, and popping their receivers when the opportunity arises.

[rovolution]

though Chambers does have mental lapses from time to time, he was a Pro Bowler, and that makes it a great aquisition by the Chuggers to go along with their other Pro Bowl-talents on offense.

[Xenos]

Very solid move by the Bolts. Now Rabbit Ears Rivers is the only weak link on offense.
Yeah you're right. I think the only time he should play is when we face you guys again.

[Doggcow]

ANYTHING can happen in the playoffs. Should a Bronco fan realize that? I mean losing to Jax at home.

Bolts are the foremost experts on things that can go wrong in the playoffs, will. 14-2, getting punked in the first round? Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[boltaneer]

I have to disagree with that. I think the biggest missing piece on your team is in your secondary.
And yes your offense is really good. Reminds me of the Chiefs offense in 2004. I think that a CB or S would have been a better pick up than a WR because you have receiving threats like Gates, LT, Jackson who is doing well, and a young Davis who can only continue to grow.
Ultimately, SD is going to get destroyed by NE and IND because both of those teams are doing an outstanding job of throwing the ball down the field and the Chargers are struggling to stop the pass.

Actually, our corners have been playing pretty well this year especially considering that our pass rush was pretty non-existent all year long (until Cottrell finally woke up and realized he has two of the best pass rushers in the NFL and started using them, moving them around pre-snap and showing all sorts of different looks this week against Oakland). It's the safeties that have been playing poorly on defense. McCree has regressed big time but he's been playing better the past two weeks. Hart's a good nickel or dime safety but he shouldn't be in there as a starter. He's in there for now until Weddle gets up to full speed. Then, I think you'll start seeing the defense come together.

Granted, it looks like the defense started to get things right this week against a pitiful Oakland team but it's not just the results, it's all the things they were doing during the game that they weren't doing in previous weeks. The fact that Cottrell is finally getting creative and more aggressive is the encouraging sign about the defense.

[Moon§hiner]

I'd say it looks like a good move to me...it's only going to open up Gates and Tomlison that much more. Price might have been a bit steep for me to stomach, but we'll see.

[bpc]

I have to disagree with that. I think the biggest missing piece on your team is in your secondary.
And yes your offense is really good. Reminds me of the Chiefs offense in 2004. I think that a CB or S would have been a better pick up than a WR because you have receiving threats like Gates, LT, Jackson who is doing well, and a young Davis who can only continue to grow.
Ultimately, SD is going to get destroyed by NE and IND because both of those teams are doing an outstanding job of throwing the ball down the field and the Chargers are struggling to stop the pass.

Dude, don't ever confuse me for a charger fan, i'll kill you.

[TheChamp24]

Meh, decent pickup. Not that spectacular of a move though IMO like some are saying.

[sirhcyennek81]

Great. Another WR Rivers will ignore in favor of Gates and LT.


:Broncos:

[Xenos]

Great. Another WR Rivers will ignore in favor of Gates and LT.


:Broncos:

The trade happened because Eric Parker is out. He's the receiver that Brees and now Rivers trust the most outside of Gates and LT. He just does a good job of moving the chains and catching almost everything on a consistent basis (the playoff game being the exception). He also unfortunately is injury prone to a scary degree.

[Boltbaby]

Chambers is a grossly overrated WR. Someone compared him to Darrell Jackson earlier, thats a pretty good comp. Chambers is a little more athletic and he's been the lone target on his team for a number of years so his numbers are more impressive on the whole, but he isn't a pro-bowl WR. I'd basically say he's what Vincent Jackson could be several years down the road, a gifted but inconsistent player who has as much potential to hurt his team as help them on Sunday.

That said, he's a fair sight better than what they've been sending out there so far, and bumping all the current guys down a peg on the depth chart makes it a lot easier on the whole receiving corps. There's also a chance they catch lightening in a bottle and get a run of "good" Chambers that could carry them pretty far.

A 2nd is a very high price to pay, especially when they've been drafting so well in recent years, but a window to seriously contend is short lived in the NFL, better to strike while the iron is hot than constantly hover on the periphery.

Personally though, I think its a wasted pick. They can't beat the Colts or Patriots without some significant breaks going their way and at this point it seems inevitable that those two will get the #1 and #2 seeds for the playoffs. Crazy that we're only just done with week 6 and the two dominant teams of the NFL are so clearly established.

They better really soak up the bye week because after that they get Houston, Minny, J'ville, Indy, and the rat birds for a real bad stretch.

Uh...he went to the Pro Bowl in 2005. 2006 he had crap for QBs. Watch out for the Bolts!

[BlaK-Argentina]

Uh...he went to the Pro Bowl in 2005. 2006 he had crap for QBs. Watch out for the Bolts!

The Pro Bowl means squat.
He is GOOD.
I remember him dropping a game winning TD against NE that year. He's way better than anything you had though, so it's still a good move.

[400HZ]

The Pro Bowl means squat.
He is GOOD.
I remember him dropping a game winning TD against NE that year. He's way better than anything you had though, so it's still a good move.

Exactly. He'd have to be a monumental failure not to help our WR corps out. If our D steps it up and Cottrell figures his **** out, I'd say we have a pretty decent chance against Indy. Our O line play has been much much better the last two weeks, so we can exploit their weakness up front and keep Payton off the field while hopefully getting some bigger plays out of Gates, Chambers, and Davis. Merriman and Phillips have the ability to put a hurt on Payton if Cottrell is smart enough to set them loose. Merriman was a one man wrecking crew last time Indy and SD met up. With New England you just have to hope that somebody figures out a weakness that can be exploited in January. Hopefully Cottrell learned something from that ass reaming we got earlier. This season is only 6 weeks in so there's plenty of time for **** to happen. That spread offense might be less effective on a sloppy January Foxburo field.

[Drek]

Uh...he went to the Pro Bowl in 2005. 2006 he had crap for QBs. Watch out for the Bolts!

So?

The pro-bowl is a popularity contest. Thats why a team with 10 pro bowlers got their asses bounced in their first playoff game.

Chambers is what he is, a great leaper with pretty good speed, but inconsistent hands and route running. He was real impressive when he first came into the league because everyone could imagine what he'd be like when the later two issues were sorted out. That never happened. He gets his numbers padded by being the only receiver worth a crap on his team the last half decade, but he doesn't get it done like a top tier WR should.

[boltaneer]

So?

The pro-bowl is a popularity contest. Thats why a team with 10 pro bowlers got their asses bounced in their first playoff game.

Chambers is what he is, a great leaper with pretty good speed, but inconsistent hands and route running. He was real impressive when he first came into the league because everyone could imagine what he'd be like when the later two issues were sorted out. That never happened. He gets his numbers padded by being the only receiver worth a crap on his team the last half decade, but he doesn't get it done like a top tier WR should.

No one is saying he's the next Randy Moss but he's a no-brainer upgrade to the Chargers WR corps and he should add a new dimension to the Chargers and their passing game that hasn't been there in a long, long time.

I think it's a good trade for both teams. San Diego fills a big need and Miami gains more draft picks to help rebuild next season.

[400HZ]

Chambers also has the benefit of two years with Norval's offense and this year under Cam. I can't wait to see what happens after the bye this week. :)

[cutthemdown]

It's a fair trade IMO. 2nd round is a good pick to get for a 6 year vet that has had ups and downs. CHambers has a lot of ability so the Chargers may get a lot out of him. Pretty even trade if you ask me. I thought Charger only built through the draft though? Guess seeing NE kicking ass made them realize this year was over with for them if they don't get more firepower.

[broncocalijohn]

What kind of QB's has Miami had to make Chambers good recently ummm NONE.

That would be Lemon who was aquired by the Dolphins from the Chargers a few years ago. They are thanking them for a replacement from that Chief squatter they have there now.

[Los Broncos]

This makes SD a little more scary.

Seems like a fair trade with the 2nd rounder.

[Bronco LB 59]

Jack Elway fought hard for Chambers in our War Room, but Denver drafted Paul Toviessi instead.

[-Slap-]

Yeah you're right. I think the only time he should play is when we face you guys again.

Yeah, way to rough up a third tier defense. It only makes his hissy fit pratfalls against good defenses all the more glaring.

The guy is a red faced choke artist and soon enough you'll verbally agree with that assessment. The realization has already dawned on you, but the power of denial cannot be underestimated.

[-Slap-]

I think all the people trying to minimize this acquisition have short memories. They were the same ones laughing at San Diego for the McCardell trade in 2004. That deal helped propel the former division doormats to a 12-4 record, (followed by a traditional Charger choke job in the playoffs).

[Circle Orange]

ANYTHING can happen in the playoffs. Should a Bronco fan realize that? I mean losing to Jax at home.

Add to that, the Colts have had to fight their way out of every game with tougher opposition. The Pats have caught bad teams at the right time, and even the cowboys have no pass defense. Everyone knows that! Cripes, as bad as the Bills are they took the Pokes nearly to OT...so don't expect me to kiss patriot a** anytime soon. Perfect pass protection, pitch and catch to good recievers. Anyone should look good under those circumstances as long as they don't make poor decisions with the ball.

[fontaine]

Good move by the Bolts. Chambers will the 2nd WR on the team behind Gates and as such, his production will benefit them.

I'm not worried about it though. We've got enough of our own problems to sort out first.

[55CrushEm]

...so don't expect me to kiss patriot a** anytime soon. Perfect pass protection, pitch and catch to good recievers. Anyone should look good under those circumstances as long as they don't make poor decisions with the ball.

You forgot cheating and knowing which defensive plays are coming.....:~ohyah!:

[azbroncfan]

People putting down this acquisition are just plain Blind Homers. Chambers is a good WR and gives SD another target outside of Gates. I'm not like some bronco fans who can't admit when another team makes a move that can have an impact.

[Merlin]

This will make them that much better than the rest of the AFCW Joke teams, but it will do nothing for the playoffs (which is the true purpose of the trade). The improvements by NE, and the far better coaching of NE and Indy make SD an afterthought come the playoffs. In fact, it is not clear yet whether SD's self-inflicted injury has knocked them even below steelgirls.

[yavoon]

Having watched a LOT of Dolphins games for the past few years, I'm telling you, he is not THAT good. He can make a spectacular catch here and there but he drops a good amount of easy ones too.

Besides, we have Champ. :)

champ covers future HOF TE gates though.

chambers is good.

[rustyfari]

go chargers!

[Malcontent]

Jack Elway fought hard for Chambers in our War Room, but Denver drafted Paul Toviessi instead.

I just threw up.

[Xenos]

It's a fair trade IMO. 2nd round is a good pick to get for a 6 year vet that has had ups and downs. CHambers has a lot of ability so the Chargers may get a lot out of him. Pretty even trade if you ask me. I thought Charger only built through the draft though? Guess seeing NE kicking ass made them realize this year was over with for them if they don't get more firepower.
Like I said in a previous post, if Eric Parker came back healthy from his toe injury, then this trade probably wouldn't have happened. Chambers is such a hot and cold receiver, I don't know what to think of this trade. He can make plays that Parker can't, but Parker also doesn't drop perfectly thrown passes (the NE game being the exception).

[ROYC75]

Chambers has been a bust based on his potential...... Most likely the reason, No QB's in Miami, now that Green is down, they move him. But to Sandy Eggo, it's a great move for them,it gives them another option on the outside. But they are not the Colts or NE Pattys.....

Problem in Sandy Eggo is, Phillip Rivers, a 1 hit wonder last year under Cam. Norv is keeping PR confused and the defenses are attacking him more. It's easy to get PR rattled with the heat....... He WILL have a sophmore slump compaired to a great 1st year.

Can the coaching staff keep PR in check when he gets ticked off ? So far this year, they haven't.....

But back to SD, they are setting themselves up for a crashing freefall in a couple of years with the salary cap and little draft picks.....

This move bothers me the least, In a way, I like it, SD will decline in a few years.

[Xenos]

Chambers has been a bust based on his potential...... Most likely the reason, No QB's in Miami, now that Green is down, they move him. But to Sandy Eggo, it's a great move for them,it gives them another option on the outside. But they are not the Colts or NE Pattys.....

Problem in Sandy Eggo is, Phillip Rivers, a 1 hit wonder last year under Cam. Norv is keeping PR confused and the defenses are attacking him more. It's easy to get PR rattled with the heat....... He WILL have a sophmore slump compaired to a great 1st year.

Can the coaching staff keep PR in check when he gets ticked off ? So far this year, they haven't.....
But back to SD, they are setting themselves up for a crashing freefall in a couple of years with the salary cap and little draft picks.....

This move bothers me the least, In a way, I like it, SD will decline in a few years.

I like how you make it seem like PR's supposed fit is actually a problem. If we were going by just media appearance, it would seem like LT was the one who was having all the fits. But then again, we all know that the media is always true don't we? PR's fits don't hurt anyone. It's more comedic for the most part because it's him exaggerating things to a the tenth degree like the Chicago Bears for example. The ones when I'm disappointed in seeing was the KC game last year and the Pats game this year.

And I don't what you're talking about in terms of salary cap. Our cap situation is fine. Chambers may have altered the plans a little bit, but I doubt we actually keep his current salaries. It'll be restructured.
The same is true for our draft picks as well. If Chambers works out, then the only real hole we have left to worry about is someone to groom to eventually replace Jamal.

[400HZ]

We still have by far the youngest team in the division so getting a vet in place of a rookie for one year is hardly damaging. Our cap space is always managed tightly. Keep trying to convince yourself though.

[Xenos]

We still have by far the youngest team in the division so getting a vet in place of a rookie for one year is hardly damaging. Our cap space is always managed tightly. Keep trying to convince yourself though.

If the 116 million cap limit for 2008 is true, and this website is true, then this is what we currently have (this excludes the Chambers trade):

http://www.kffl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213627

2007 CAP ROOM

Jacksonville $17.249 million
Tampa Bay $16.717 million
Indianapolis $14.041 million
Kansas City $13.096 million
Dallas $12.719 million
Green Bay $12.112 million
Buffalo $11.873 million
Seattle $10.787 million
Tennessee $9.501 million
New Orleans $9.330 million
Oakland $9.226 million
Carolina $9.087 million
N.Y. Jets $8.525 million
Philadelphia $8.374 million
Miami $8.011 million
Cleveland $7.108 million
San Francisco $6.070 million
New England $5.796 million
Atlanta $5.775 million
St. Louis $5.497 million
Denver $5.206 million
San Diego $4.305 million
Baltimore $3.929 million
Arizona $2.478 million
Minnesota $2.140 million
Pittsburgh $2.074 million
Detroit $2.054 million
Cincinnati $1.913 million
Houston $1.828 million
Washington $1.427 million
N.Y. Giants $1.199 million
Chicago $902,547



2008 CAP COMMITMENT (with number of players under contract in parentheses)

Tennessee (34) $71.842 million
San Diego (44) $79.729 million
Buffalo (44) $81.177 million
Cincinnati (44) $81.268 million
Jacksonville (42) $82.263 million
San Francisco (46) $83.472 million
New Orleans (37) $84.076 million
Arizona (36) $86.531 million
Dallas (40) $88.593 million
Miami (40) $88.622 million
N.Y. Giants (46) $89.156 million
Oakland (40) $90.133 million
Cleveland (41) $90.306 million
Houston (38) $90.951 million
Detroit (40) $91.488 million
Tampa Bay (47) $92.869 million
Kansas City (43) $94.132 million
Green Bay (47) $94.506 million
Chicago (49) $94.857 million
Pittsburgh (39) $95.017 million
Denver (41) $95.279 million
Minnesota (45) $95.794 million
Philadelphia (48) $96.051 million
N.Y. Jets (43) $98.231 million
Seattle (41) $102.206 million
St. Louis (38) $103.059 million
Indianapolis (42) $104.561 million
New England (42) $105.131 million
Atlanta (47) $108.861 million
Carolina (34) $109.899 million
Baltimore (42) $110.014 million
Washington (45) $136.270 million


Keep in mind that some teams' 2008 cap commitment includes some contracts that will void after this season. And every team has overpaid players they can cut to lower their cap commitment.

SD currently have 30+ million in cap space since we don't know the details of the Chamber's deal yet.
Denver has like 20+ million in next year's cap. Pretty good for them.

[boltaneer]

If the 116 million cap limit for 2008 is true, and this website is true, then this is what we currently have (this excludes the Chambers trade):

http://www.kffl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213627

2007 CAP ROOM

Jacksonville $17.249 million
Tampa Bay $16.717 million
Indianapolis $14.041 million
Kansas City $13.096 million
Dallas $12.719 million
Green Bay $12.112 million
Buffalo $11.873 million
Seattle $10.787 million
Tennessee $9.501 million
New Orleans $9.330 million
Oakland $9.226 million
Carolina $9.087 million
N.Y. Jets $8.525 million
Philadelphia $8.374 million
Miami $8.011 million
Cleveland $7.108 million
San Francisco $6.070 million
New England $5.796 million
Atlanta $5.775 million
St. Louis $5.497 million
Denver $5.206 million
San Diego $4.305 million
Baltimore $3.929 million
Arizona $2.478 million
Minnesota $2.140 million
Pittsburgh $2.074 million
Detroit $2.054 million
Cincinnati $1.913 million
Houston $1.828 million
Washington $1.427 million
N.Y. Giants $1.199 million
Chicago $902,547



2008 CAP COMMITMENT (with number of players under contract in parentheses)

Tennessee (34) $71.842 million
San Diego (44) $79.729 million
Buffalo (44) $81.177 million
Cincinnati (44) $81.268 million
Jacksonville (42) $82.263 million
San Francisco (46) $83.472 million
New Orleans (37) $84.076 million
Arizona (36) $86.531 million
Dallas (40) $88.593 million
Miami (40) $88.622 million
N.Y. Giants (46) $89.156 million
Oakland (40) $90.133 million
Cleveland (41) $90.306 million
Houston (38) $90.951 million
Detroit (40) $91.488 million
Tampa Bay (47) $92.869 million
Kansas City (43) $94.132 million
Green Bay (47) $94.506 million
Chicago (49) $94.857 million
Pittsburgh (39) $95.017 million
Denver (41) $95.279 million
Minnesota (45) $95.794 million
Philadelphia (48) $96.051 million
N.Y. Jets (43) $98.231 million
Seattle (41) $102.206 million
St. Louis (38) $103.059 million
Indianapolis (42) $104.561 million
New England (42) $105.131 million
Atlanta (47) $108.861 million
Carolina (34) $109.899 million
Baltimore (42) $110.014 million
Washington (45) $136.270 million


Keep in mind that some teams' 2008 cap commitment includes some contracts that will void after this season. And every team has overpaid players they can cut to lower their cap commitment.

SD currently have 30+ million in cap space since we don't know the details of the Chamber's deal yet.
Denver has like 20+ million in next year's cap. Pretty good for them.

Good stuff. I've been telling some posters here that the Chargers have been one of the best managing the cap in recent years, yet they are reluctant to believe it. Nice to see the proof (if this is indeed legit) right in front of us.