Random Prospect Thoughts

[bpc]

Just post random stuff in here.

If we don't look OT in the first, I would love for us to take a look at Jeffrey Otah, LT from Pitt in the 2nd round. He has the feet that you look for with a LT and he can also run block really well. If I had to make a comparison between him and another player previously in the NFL, it would be Tarik Glenn of the Colts.

I think there is a big bust factor with Jake Long. Call me crazy but the guy looks maxed out in terms of his build and body and he is a little stiff in the knee's and hips. He lacks great athletic ability as well. I think he brings work ethic and a grinder's mentality but I see him at RT or Guard at the next level. Thats just my opinion, take it for what its worth.

If I had to rank OT's right now that I really like and have seen in terms of what we do...

1. Clady - BSU - Great athlete who brings the feet with him to be a premier left tackle.
2. Baker - USC - I actually haven't watched this guy yet but I plan too. He is a smaller LT compared to the rest of the guys and USC lineman lately have been known as good technical players.
3. Cherilus - BC - Big body who can move pretty well. I think he is more athletic than Long. He takes away the defenses best rusher.
4. Otah - Pitt - See above.
5. Long - Michigan - I only see him being a RT or Guard on the next level. He has a certain big 10, Gallery busto factor that should be considered.

Don't believe people ripping on Glen Dorsey... he is THAT good and he would be a perfect fit in Denver. He has the ability to dominate in a position that Bates requires. The guy brings it every play too. I couldn't have been more wrong about him from his junior year to his senior year.

[socalorado]

So, hows this?

1st DeMarcus Granger DT OK (If he declares, If not Frank Okam TEX)
2nd Beau Bell MLB UNLV
3rd Cory Boyd RB S CAR.(aquired from TB for a 08 4th / 09 3rd and RB MBELL)
3rd Craig Stetzl SS LSU (aquired from NO for CB Dominique Foxworth)
4th Thomas DeCoud FS CAL
5th Andrew Crummey OT MARYLAND (can play guard and center.)
5th Jeff Cavender C BOISE ST. (can play guard and tackle)
7th Tad Miller OG BOISE ST. or Leon Hart OG AUBURN
7th Brandyn Dombrowski OG SD ST. (can play either side of the line)

OK. Heres my thought.
1.If the Broncos continue to go with veterans, then our promising, rocket armed QB is going to be on his butt and injured before you can blink.
Totally revamp the O-line. Good draft to do it, and there is plenty of talent, so get em in and make em compete for all the spots. Theres depth from the last 2 drafts, but thats no excuse to stop drafting them. It starts with Cutler staying upright.
Wanna know why Brady is soooo good? Just look no further than his O-Line.
Guy has all day to surgically dissect the opposing team.
2. Use Foxy and MBell and get what you can to move into the 3rd round. there is good value there, so if Shenanigans can use his head again in this draft, then he has alot of options.
3. Go out and get either Calos Dansby, Lance briggs or Terrel Suggs. Just get one in here. LBs are solved with Beau Bell in the middle.
4. It early choices are subject to change!!! Dont hate!!!

[bpc]

Interesting. I like Granger too. I've seen a few plays of him and he does play with some power.

Let me take a shot...

I would try to trade back especially if we can't get Dorsey.

Assuming we are right around 10...

1. Beau Bell - Monster on the field who is just tearing up the MWC. Can make the tackle, INT, or force fumbles.
2. Kentwan Balmer - Powerful DT who plays strong and his future is even brighter.
4. Trevor Laws - Another powerful DT who will hold the point and makes plays on the LOS. 2nd on ND's team with 46 tackles. Thats an incredible amoutn for a DT.
4. Jeffrey Otah - A very good LT who is only going to get better with better coaching. He reminds me of Tarik Glenn on the field... has quick feet and will also make some very nice blocks in the run game.
5. Lavelle Hawkins - Desean Jackson gets all the hype but this is guy with the substance for the CAL WR's.

[socalorado]

Interesting. I like Granger too. I've seen a few plays of him and he does play with some power.

Let me take a shot...

I would try to trade back especially if we can't get Dorsey.

Assuming we are right around 10...

1. Beau Bell - Monster on the field who is just tearing up the MWC. Can make the tackle, INT, or force fumbles.
2. Kentwan Balmer - Powerful DT who plays strong and his future is even brighter.
4. Trevor Laws - Another powerful DT who will hold the point and makes plays on the LOS. 2nd on ND's team with 46 tackles. Thats an incredible amoutn for a DT.
4. Jeffrey Otah - A very good LT who is only going to get better with better coaching. He reminds me of Tarik Glenn on the field... has quick feet and will also make some very nice blocks in the run game.
5. Lavelle Hawkins - Desean Jackson gets all the hype but this is guy with the substance for the CAL WR's.

NICE! Its different and i would have never of thought to go that way, but it works. I like going for more than 1 DT. I just couldnt justify it with mine. Plus its early man! alot of these guys could rise and fall. so who knows!
i figured with all the DEs and MThomas, just get one good DT and draft for needs with the rest. I like the Lavelle hawkins pick. I also like some of the Hawai'i WRs. Bess!! looks like a sleeper who could become a good KR/STs guy!

[skmoser]

Trade: 2nd round pick to Chicago for both 3rd round picks
Trade: Ian Gold to Cincinnati for 4th round pick

1st round
James Laurinaitis LB Ohio St. – 6’3” 250lb 4.55 40yd

3rd round
Dre Moore DT Maryland – 6’4” 315lb 5.00 40yd
Thomas DeCoud FS California – 6’2” 200lb 4.55 40yd

4th round
Cory Boyd RB South Carolina – 6’1” 215lb 4.55 40yd
Donnie Avery WR Houston – 5’11” 190lb 4.35 40yd
Kentwan Balmer DT North Carolina – 6’5” 300lb 5.00 40yd

5th round
Mike Pallak C Arizona St. – 6’4” 295lb 5.00 40yd
Chris Horton SS UCLA – 6’1” 215lb 4.60 40yd

7th round
Jeremy Thompson DE Wake Forest – 6’5” 265lb 4.75 40yd
Charles Godfrey CB Iowa – 6’0” 210lb 4.40 40yd

2008 Cap Room: 20,721,000 (go here)

Re-signings:
Cecil Sapp – 2yrs 5 million
Brandon Stokley – 3yrs 8 million
Erik Pears – 2yrs 3.5 million
Chris Myers – 2yrs 3.5 million
John Engelberger – 1yr 2 1.5 million
Domonique Foxworth – 4yrs 11 million
Karl Paymah – 3yrs 5 million
Nick Ferguson – 1yr 3 million
Hamza Abdullah – 3yrs 4 million
Jason Elam – 1 yr 2 million
Tom Sauerbrun – 1yr 1.5 million

Free Agent Signings:
Karlos Dansby LB (via/Arizona) 4yrs 28 million
Max Starks OT (via/Pittsburgh) 3yrs 18 million
Ryan Lilja OG (via/Indianapolis) 3yrs 12 million
Randy Starks DT (via/Tennessee) 2yrs 3.5 million

[bpc]

NICE! Its different and i would have never of thought to go that way, but it works. I like going for more than 1 DT. I just couldnt justify it with mine. Plus its early man! alot of these guys could rise and fall. so who knows!
i figured with all the DEs and MThomas, just get one good DT and draft for needs with the rest. I like the Lavelle hawkins pick. I also like some of the Hawai'i WRs. Bess!! looks like a sleeper who could become a good KR/STs guy!

I had to make it short as I was posted on my lunch break...

Let me finish...

1. Beau Bell - MLB UNLV - Monster on the field who is just tearing up the MWC. Can make the tackle, INT, or force fumbles.

10/15/07 - Mountain West Week 7 Co-Defensive Player of the Week: Beau Bell recorded a season-high 13 total tackles, including six solo, and forced three turnovers with two interceptions and a forced fumble in UNLV's 24-14 loss to BYU. On BYU's first drive of the game, Bell stripped WR Matt Allen and the fumble was recovered by a UNLV teammate. The Rebels converted the turnover into an early 3-0 lead after kicking a short field goal. Late in the second quarter, Bell grabbed his first career interception at his own 18-yard line to keep UNLV within a point at halftime (7-6). In the beginning of the fourth quarter, Bell picked off Cougar quarterback Max Hall at the UNLV goal-line to keep the Rebels within 11 points at 17-6. - Mountain West Sports

10/15/07 - UNLV LB Beau Bell has recorded double-figure tackles in five of seven games this season. He is currently second in the MWC and ranks 23rd in the NCAA in tackles per game with 10.6. Bell also is tied for third nationally and leads the MWC with four forced fumbles. - Mountain West Sports

10/02/07 - LB Beau Bell, who entered the game leading the Mountain West Conference in tackles and forced fumbles, had another big game for the Rebels. The 6-foot-3, 245-pound senior finished with a game-high 12 tackles, including two for loss, and a sack. Bell now has 53 tackles, three sacks and three forced fumbles in five games.

2. Kentwan Balmer - DT UNC - Powerful DT who plays strong and his future is even brighter. I think because of DT depth in this class he is going to go higher as the draft comes around. He's a good player though.

10/16/07 - Senior DT Kentwan Balmer was in the middle of North Carolina's defensive effort in the second half as the Tar Heels kept the Gamecocks scoreless. Balmer had seven tackles, second to LB Durell Mapp's game-high 14. Balmer had one stop for a loss, that on South Carolina's final possession.

10/08/07 - Senior DT Kentwan Balmer continued his solid play in the defensive front as the Tar Heels came up with one of their best efforts against the run, holding Miami to 109 yards rushing. Balmer had a near sack and was credited with four stops.

10/03/07 - DT Kentwan Balmer is averaging 5.8 tackles per game, which is tops among interior defensive linemen in the conference. In fact, only defensive ends Patrick Bailey of Duke and Virginia's Chris Long and Jeffrey Fitzgerald rank ahead of Balmer in tackles among front line defensive players. The rest of the tackle leaders are linebackers and defensive backs. Balmer also was one of four permanent captains voted on by his teammates. The others: DE Hilee Taylor, C Scott Lenahan and RT Garrett Reynolds.

4. Trevor Laws - DT Notre Dame - Strengths: Gets good forward lean in stance, anticipates the snap well and can get into the backfield. Moves well laterally, slants well and runs line stunts well. Works from snap to whistle, takes sound angles to the ball and makes plays in pursuit. Reads keys fairly well and can sniff out screens. Stays balanced, uses hands to protect legs and rarely gets knocked to the ground by cut blocks. Wraps up upon contact, shows good body control and is an effective open field tackler. Hands are active, flashes good power at the point of attack and flashes effective rip move. Times jumps well and gets hands up when isn't going to get to the quarterback.

Weaknesses: While plays with good leverage, lacks ideal lower body strength, plays with a narrow base and can get driven back when doesn't win with first step. Lacks elite size and struggles to hold ground against double teams. Doesn't show great power at the point of attack and can take too long to shed blocks. Gets caught too far upfield at times and he takes himself out of some plays. Though never stops working, lacks the power to consistently collapse the pocket and isn't a great bull rusher. Lacks elite explosiveness, doesn't have great closing speed and there are concerns about ability to get to the quarterback at the NFL level. Sat out the 2003 season with an injury and durability is somewhat of a concern.

Overall: Laws arrived at Notre Dame in 2003 but sat out the entire season with an injury. He then played in 37 games (25 starts) during his first three seasons (2004-'06), amassing 112 total tackles, 14.5 tackles for loss, and six sacks. Laws is a classic overachiever.

4. Jeffrey Otah - OT Pitt - A very good LT who is only going to get better with better coaching. He reminds me of Tarik Glenn on the field... has quick feet and will also make some very nice blocks in the run game.

5. Lavelle Hawkins - WR Cal - 09/25/07 - LOOKING GOOD: WR Lavelle Hawkins - So much attention is placed on DeSean Jackson that Hawkins gets lost. He better be found, as he continues to lead the team in receptions after catching six passes for 95 yards, including an 18-yard touchdown against Arizona. He has a touchdown in six of his last seven games. Personally I think that he could be a perfect person to line up in the slot inside of Walker and Marshall. He also is adept at handling the kick returns.

5. Mike Pollak - Center ASU - Leading the ASU OLine and offense that has averaged over 40 pts 4 times and 30 pts six times. 10/01/07 - Center may not be the most glorious position, but with 14 pivot men drafted in the top two rounds since 2000, teams certainly recognize their value. One player whose value isn't being nationally recognized is Arizona State's Mike Pollak. Pollak, at 6-4, 295 pounds, has prototype size and rare agility. He earned Second Team Pac-10 honors last season and was ranked heading into this season as a potential second day selection. So far in 2007, however, Pollak has been even better than advertised and his name is being whispered among NFL scouts as one of the year's early pleasant surprises.

09/08/07 - Mike Pollak, ASU's starting center, leads an experienced offense line that bulldozed its way past the San Jose State defensive front, helped the Sun Devils pick up 250 yards on the ground, kept QB Rudy Carpenter upright (he was sacked only once) and controlled the line of scrimmage.

7. Jordan Dizon - OLB CU - Strengths: Tough and doesn't shy away from contact. Has a mean streak, shows adequate power at the point of attack and flashes the ability to shed blocks. Aggressive and flashes the ability to make plays at the line of scrimmage. Works from whistle to snap and makes some plays in pursuit. Squares up to the ball carrier, wraps up upon contact and is a reliable open field tackler that flashes the ability to deliver the big hit. Gets adequate depth and shows adequate awareness when asked to drop into zone coverage. Takes the shortest path to the quarterback when asked to blitz and flashes the ability to run through blockers in the backfield. Plays with emotion and is a leader in the field.

Weaknesses: Doesn't read keys well, has some problems locating the ball carrier and can get caught out position. Doesn't use hands to protect legs, frequently plays with a narrow base and gets knocked to the ground too much. Appears stiff when forced to change directions quickly and lacks the burst to stay with backs in man coverage. Takes too long to open hips and isn't fast enough to run with tight ends downfield. Lacks ideal ball skills and isn't a playmaker in coverage.

Overall: During Dizon's first three seasons (2004-'06) he played in 36 games at inside linebacker and recorded 280 total tackles, 16 tackles for loss, and eight sacks. He has started in 23 games over the past two seasons and has also seen action on special teams though collegiate career. Dizon is a tough run defender who has the motor and mentality to develop into a valuable special teams' contributor. However, his lack of ideal instincts is concerning and he doesn't have the burst to develop quality cover skills.

7. James McClinton - DT KU - Strengths: Plays with adequate leverage, shows good lower body strength and can hold ground when teams run at him. Frequently draws double teams and flashes the ability to keep blockers off linebackers. Gets good hand placement, extends arms once in position and flashes the ability to shed blocks quickly. Gets good forward lean in stance, anticipates snap and flashes the ability to make plays behind the lien of scrimmage. Takes sound angles to the ball and plays with a good motor. Shows good awareness in short-yardage situations, he has a mean streak and drags ball carrier's back rather than knocking them forward. Takes the shortest path to the quarterback and is a relentless pass rusher. Wraps up upon contact and is a reliable tackler that can jar the ball loose.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal explosiveness and doesn't show great closing speed when gets a clear path to the quarterback. Takes too long to change directions and doesn't force offensive linemen to redirect in pass protection. Though flashes the ability to collapse the pocket, doesn't always drive legs once in position and isn't a great bull rusher at this point. Lacks ideal leaping ability and doesn't always gets hands up when isn't going to get to the quarterback. Lacks range and doesn't make a lot of plays in pursuit despite effort. Overaggressive at times and can get drawn off sides.

Overall: During his first three seasons (2004-'06) McClinton played in 30 games (23 starts) and recorded 79 total tackles, 20 tackles for loss, and seven sacks. McClinton doesn't have the explosiveness of a productive NFL pass rusher and he may never be a three-down player as a result. However, he is a stout run defender who can develop into a valuable wave player, which is why he should become a Day 2 pick in 2008

[bpc]

Just for the record, whether Travis Henry is guilty or not, I would make plays for Michael Turner. Get that guy in Denver.

Bring in him and maybe a WR and I would feel great about the direction or team is going.

We have to rebuild our defense and that is going to take time. Through the draft is the best way. Over the last two years we've spent some picks on DE's, now we make a move on some DT's and LB's while restocking some of our OL reserves in case Hamilton and Nalen are done. We need a backup plan at both position.

[SoCalBronco]

Instead of shelling out dough for Turner, I'd just pick James Davis in the 2nd round. Better system fit too.

BTW, Florida's Drew Miller would be a great interior OL prospect for us.

[bpc]

Instead of shelling out dough for Turner, I'd just pick James Davis in the 2nd round. Better system fit too.

BTW, Florida's Drew Miller would be a great interior OL prospect for us.

Why not just sign a long term fit who will be a great player for us? We can build up our depth through the draft in the DL with those picks.

I like James Davis as a prospect, I don't like that he is so hot and cold on the collegiate level. Who knows what he'll do as a pro.

Michael Turner will dominate on this level in our offense.

[NFLBRONCO]

I love Dizon but, isn't he a bit small

[socalorado]

BPC, SKMOSER, nice posts! Thanks for the info BPC!
Yeah, i like Beau Bell! That dude is a machine!
I also like SKMOSER's draft as well. I see we have a couple guys going in different rounds but it s early so, who knows. But i am glad we all are basically on the same page. I like the FA pick ups!! I didnt realize there were so many out there! Need to do my homework. .......
I think 2 safeties in this draft if possible or maybe bring in Mike Doss (UFA) thats alot of money as well though, and after seeing your mock, i would rather have the guys you picked

Free Agent Signings:
Karlos Dansby LB (via/Arizona) 4yrs 28 million
Max Starks OT (via/Pittsburgh) 3yrs 18 million
Ryan Lilja OG (via/Indianapolis) 3yrs 12 million
Randy Starks DT (via/Tennessee) 2yrs 3.5 million

[Elway777]

Just post random stuff in here.

If we don't look OT in the first, I would love for us to take a look at Jeffrey Otah, LT from Pitt in the 2nd round. He has the feet that you look for with a LT and he can also run block really well. If I had to make a comparison between him and another player previously in the NFL, it would be Tarik Glenn of the Colts.

I think there is a big bust factor with Jake Long. Call me crazy but the guy looks maxed out in terms of his build and body and he is a little stiff in the knee's and hips. He lacks great athletic ability as well. I think he brings work ethic and a grinder's mentality but I see him at RT or Guard at the next level. Thats just my opinion, take it for what its worth.

If I had to rank OT's right now that I really like and have seen in terms of what we do...

1. Clady - BSU - Great athlete who brings the feet with him to be a premier left tackle.
2. Baker - USC - I actually haven't watched this guy yet but I plan too. He is a smaller LT compared to the rest of the guys and USC lineman lately have been known as good technical players.
3. Cherilus - BC - Big body who can move pretty well. I think he is more athletic than Long. He takes away the defenses best rusher.
4. Otah - Pitt - See above.
5. Long - Michigan - I only see him being a RT or Guard on the next level. He has a certain big 10, Gallery busto factor that should be considered.

Don't believe people ripping on Glen Dorsey... he is THAT good and he would be a perfect fit in Denver. He has the ability to dominate in a position that Bates requires. The guy brings it every play too. I couldn't have been more wrong about him from his junior year to his senior year.

I been reading alot of message boards that have Otah really moving up in the draft. I would n't mind drafting him in the second. Drafting Conner in the first ,then drafting best offensive tackle maybe Otah in the second ,then signing Turner and Haynesworth as free agents.That would be a great off season for the Broncos. If the Broncos cann't sign Haynesworth then sign Starks and maybe trade a 4 and 2009 3 rounder for Jenkins. Jenkins and Starks would be a nice dt tandem.

[Requiem]

Interesting thoughts, but I'm not a fan of Bell that high in the draft. I think he's a rising prospect, but I don't think he's anywhere near a top fifteen selection.

[socalorado]

Interesting thoughts, but I'm not a fan of Bell that high in the draft. I think he's a rising prospect, but I don't think he's anywhere near a top fifteen selection.

i have him in the 2nd, but by the time the draft comes he may very well be a 1st rounder. Guy is a machine!
I hope he stays a 2nd round pick with all the hyped up LBs in this draft. If the Broncos screw this up in regards to LB, man i'm gonna be pissed!

[Elway777]

I also wouldn't mind using our first 2 picks on linebackers and hope a good offensive tackle falls to the Broncos in the 4 round. Conner Laurinatis or Rivers in the first. Bell,Cushing,Henderson ,Goff ,Wheeler or Brinkley in the second.Use our free agent money on Haynesworth and Turner and maybe a guard like Smiley or Lilja.Also look at Doss at safety.

[Requiem]

Dude, Brinkley isn't coming out. His knee is done for and he's medical redshirting and going back to the Cocks.

[bpc]

i have him in the 2nd, but by the time the draft comes he may very well be a 1st rounder. Guy is a machine!
I hope he stays a 2nd round pick with all the hyped up LBs in this draft. If the Broncos screw this up in regards to LB, man i'm gonna be pissed!

I think the guy is showing Urlacher type stuff at a mid-conference level. He is clearly dominating his competition and making game changing plays.

There is still a long way to go and to be honest, I haven't really seen that much tape on him but I like what he has done and the hype he is getting. I think his draft position will come down to how fast he runs. If he goes lower, which I doubt, I hope we grab him then. Its hard to find guys that are 6'2", 250lbs, and play all across the field, every down. The guy has shown he can make the tackles, force the fumbles and he also has a few INT's.

Nobody thought John Mobley from Kutztown university was going to be drafted very high until Jimmy Johnson started snooping around him... and he ran a 4.4 if I recall. You never know about the small school prospects and like I said, the hardest position to evaluate is LB. That's why you see so many later round guys come in and become effective.

[Elway777]

What do you think about Mike Humpel from Iowa. Humpel had a great game against Illinois making 18 tackles.I also like Rudd from nebraska. Both Rudd and Humpel might make good Sams.

[bpc]

I been reading alot of message boards that have Otah really moving up in the draft. I would n't mind drafting him in the second. Drafting Conner in the first ,then drafting best offensive tackle maybe Otah in the second ,then signing Turner and Haynesworth as free agents.That would be a great off season for the Broncos. If the Broncos cann't sign Haynesworth then sign Starks and maybe trade a 4 and 2009 3 rounder for Jenkins. Jenkins and Starks would be a nice dt tandem.

Yeah, I'm afraid after the all-star games and near the draft this mock draft will be one of fantasy's because some of these guys will be moving up... mainly Pollak and Otah.

I really like Otah. He's not perfect yet but when you watch him you'll see he has great feet, and really tries to finish his blocks effectively in the run game. I really like his potential. Like I said, he reminds me of Tarik Glenn from Indy.

[bpc]

What do you think about Mike Humpel from Iowa. Humpel had a great game against Illinois making 18 tackles.I also like Rudd from nebraska. Both Rudd and Humpel might make good Sams.

I've only heard about him through what he did last week. I haven't had a chance to watch a lot of film on him because Iowa has been struggling, hasn't got much National TV exposure.

I don't get my wide/end zone cut footage until the end of the year.

[socalorado]

I think the guy is showing Urlacher type stuff at a mid-conference level. He is clearly dominating his competition and making game changing plays.

There is still a long way to go and to be honest, I haven't really seen that much tape on him but I like what he has done and the hype he is getting. I think his draft position will come down to how fast he runs. If he goes lower, which I doubt, I hope we grab him then. Its hard to find guys that are 6'2", 250lbs, and play all across the field, every down. The guy has shown he can make the tackles, force the fumbles and he also has a few INT's.

Nobody thought John Mobley from Kutztown university was going to be drafted very high until Jimmy Johnson started snooping around him... and he ran a 4.4 if I recall. You never know about the small school prospects and like I said, the hardest position to evaluate is LB. That's why you see so many later round guys come in and become effective.

Agreed. I just cant find any real downsides to this guy.
Seems easy, but i guess we'll just wait and see. With the draft being sooo deep at LB, i would LOVE for this guy to just be sitting there in the 2nd round.

[Elway777]

My mock draft with The Broncos receiving a 3 round pick for Foxworth. The Broncos also trade a 4 round plus a 2009 3 round pick for Jenkins. 1 . Dan Conner,compares to Zack Thomas 2 Beau Bell , can play both MLB or Sam . 3a Jeffery Otah or Chis Williams 4a Tracy Porter,Broncos punt returner and nickle corner 4b Traded for Kenkins 5a Brian Johnson ,compares to Arron Kampton 5b Dom Barber, Brother of Marion Barber and plays just as hard. Good speed around 4.5 plus is 6 in solo tackles. 7a Jerome Felton, Tough inside runner plus a good blocker 7bTyrell Johnson,good Character plus good tackling safety and makes big plays in coverage.

[socalorado]

My mock draft with The Broncos receiving a 3 round pick for Foxworth. The Broncos also trade a 4 round plus a 2009 3 round pick for Jenkins. 1 . Dan Conner,compares to Zack Thomas 2 Beau Bell , can play both MLB or Sam . 3a Jeffery Otah or Chis Williams 4a Tracy Porter,Broncos punt returner and nickle corner 4b Traded for Kenkins 5a Brian Johnson ,compares to Arron Kampton 5b Dom Barber, Brother of Marion Barber and plays just as hard. Good speed around 4.5 plus is 6 in solo tackles. 7a Jerome Felton, Tough inside runner plus a good blocker 7bTyrell Johnson,good Character plus good tackling safety and makes big plays in coverage.

NICE! It works both ways. LBs in FA or DTs FA and get the opposite in the draft!

[Elway777]

NICE! It works both ways. LBs in FA or DTs FA and get the opposite in the draft!
I like to find away to get a second day wide receiver like Jordy Nelson or Avery. Marus Smith is also an interesting day 2 receiver.

[socalorado]

I like to find away to get a second day wide receiver like Jordy Nelson or Avery. Marus Smith is also an interesting day 2 receiver.

Well, now that ive heard rumors of Walker being out for the season, i think i need to revamp my original mock to somehow include a WR. And i dont mean another Darius Watts! *sighs*
I would love for Lavelle Hawkins to still be there in the bottom of the 3rd.
Do the broncos get a compensatory pick this year?

[lex]

Just post random stuff in here.

If we don't look OT in the first, I would love for us to take a look at Jeffrey Otah, LT from Pitt in the 2nd round. He has the feet that you look for with a LT and he can also run block really well. If I had to make a comparison between him and another player previously in the NFL, it would be Tarik Glenn of the Colts.

I think there is a big bust factor with Jake Long. Call me crazy but the guy looks maxed out in terms of his build and body and he is a little stiff in the knee's and hips. He lacks great athletic ability as well. I think he brings work ethic and a grinder's mentality but I see him at RT or Guard at the next level. Thats just my opinion, take it for what its worth.

If I had to rank OT's right now that I really like and have seen in terms of what we do...

1. Clady - BSU - Great athlete who brings the feet with him to be a premier left tackle.
2. Baker - USC - I actually haven't watched this guy yet but I plan too. He is a smaller LT compared to the rest of the guys and USC lineman lately have been known as good technical players.
3. Cherilus - BC - Big body who can move pretty well. I think he is more athletic than Long. He takes away the defenses best rusher.
4. Otah - Pitt - See above.
5. Long - Michigan - I only see him being a RT or Guard on the next level. He has a certain big 10, Gallery busto factor that should be considered.

Don't believe people ripping on Glen Dorsey... he is THAT good and he would be a perfect fit in Denver. He has the ability to dominate in a position that Bates requires. The guy brings it every play too. I couldn't have been more wrong about him from his junior year to his senior year.

Gallery played in a zone blocking system at Iowa. For much of his time in Oakland he has not been playing in a zone blocking system but he is now and now Oakland is one of the better running teams in the league. He has now been moved to guard but still, with Gallery its probably more fish out of water than anything.

Jake Long also plays in zone blocking system at Michigan. Im not really worried about him if we were to draft him. If we had the #1 pick, McFadden would be my first choice and Long my second.


A couple of guys I find intriguing are Jeremy Zuttah, Mike Gibson, and Joe Fields.

[socalorado]

Gallery played in a zone blocking system at Iowa. For much of his time in Oakland he has not been playing in a zone blocking system but he is now and now Oakland is one of the better running teams in the league. He has now been moved to guard but still, with Gallery its probably more fish out of water than anything.

Jake Long also plays in zone blocking system at Michigan. Im not really worried about him if we were to draft him. If we had the #1 pick, McFadden would be my first choice and Long my second.


A couple of guys I find intriguing are Jeremy Zuttah, Mike Gibson, and Joe Fields.

Whats up! So over here from now on or still a little of both?

[lex]

Whats up! So over here from now on or still a little of both?


Here and Broncosforums

[socalorado]

Here and Bronscosforums

Right on.


1st DeMarcus Granger DT OK
2nd Beau Bell MLB UNLV
3rd Lavelle Hawkins WR CAL (aquired from TB for 08 4th/09 3rd and RB MBELL)
3rd Thomas DeCoud FS CAL (aquired from NO for CB Dominique Foxworth)
4th Jamar Adams, SS, MICHIGAN
5th Brandon Rodd OG ARIZ ST ( can play tackle and guard )
5th Andrew Crummey OT MARYLAND (can play guard and center.)
7th Tad Miller OG BOISE ST. or Leon Hart OG AUBURN
7th Brandyn Dombrowski OG SD ST. (can play either side of the line)

Granger is this years Amobe Okoye, Young and super talented. just can't pass him up. Especially considering that Okam is notoriously lazy and Ellis does not fit the system.
With the injury to Walker, i decided to go out and get a WR that would be a good fit with Marshall. Hawkins is a good possesion guy with great speed. (4.43) he's just good so spend the 1st day pick! No more "Hixon/Watts" guys.
DeCoud is moving up draft boards, so he's not a sleeper anymore! This guy is a great coverage guy and is just flat out talented. He is also a team leader.
Jamar Adams is a tough one cause i think the Broncos are just sooo depleted at SS as well! But i dont want to waste the pick. Maybe Chris Horton here as well. Adams is the leader of the MICH defense and is the teams leading retruning STs tackler. Huh. A good STs guy!?!?!? Hmmm. i remember somebody saying something about DEN absolutely SUCKING in this DEPT. Hmm........
Totally revamp the O-Line!!
RODD CRUMMEY AND MILLER are all able to play multiple positions on the O-Line. Make em compete with the guys thast were drafted in the last 2 drafts and complete a solid line for Cutler. Or he's going to be on his back and out of football real soon!

As for the RB situation, well i just could not justify it my mock. Sorry but i need to keep it somewhat legit, but i think that DEN should go after a top notch FA just like last year, only dont draft a dope! (pun intended!)

Michael Turner, UFA, San Diego Chargers
Turner will hit the market at the top of the available running backs list. Many teams will be interested in the services of “The Burner.” Turner would have a chance to start for some NFL teams, but in San Diego he sees limited action behind the stellar LaDainian Tomlinson. He’s just 25 years of age and over the past two seasons combined has averaged more than six yards a carry. With two career runs over 70 yards as a backup, including an 83-yard touchdown in ’05, Turner has shown that he can be a force on the field. He’ll get big dollars from a team looking for a new number one option.

Just get em. Spend the money and the RB issue is solved for years to come. Many critics say Turner is a BETTER inside runner than LT!
Question: How much will it cost to get MTurner into DEN next year?

Also get LB Carlos Dansby via ARI
He would complete the LB core and solve the constant issues.
MIKE Bell
SAM Dansby
WILL Williams

[lex]

Right on.


1st DeMarcus Granger DT OK
2nd Beau Bell MLB UNLV
3rd Lavelle Hawkins WR CAL (aquired from TB for 08 4th/09 3rd and RB MBELL)
3rd Thomas DeCoud FS CAL (aquired from NO for CB Dominique Foxworth)
4th Jamar Adams, SS, MICHIGAN
5th Brandon Rodd OG ARIZ ST ( can play tackle and guard )
5th Andrew Crummey OT MARYLAND (can play guard and center.)
7th Tad Miller OG BOISE ST. or Leon Hart OG AUBURN
7th Brandyn Dombrowski OG SD ST. (can play either side of the line)

Granger is this years Amobe Okoye, Young and super talented. just can't pass him up. Especially considering that Okam is notoriously lazy and Ellis does not fit the system.
With the injury to Walker, i decided to go out and get a WR that would be a good fit with Marshall. Hawkins is a good possesion guy with great speed. (4.43) he's just good so spend the 1st day pick! No more "Hixon/Watts" guys.
DeCoud is moving up draft boards, so he's not a sleeper anymore! This guy is a great coverage guy and is just flat out talented. He is also a team leader.
Jamar Adams is a tough one cause i think the Broncos are just sooo depleted at SS as well! But i dont want to waste the pick. Maybe Chris Horton here as well. Adams is the leader of the MICH defense and is the teams leading retruning STs tackler. Huh. A good STs guy!?!?!? Hmmm. i remember somebody saying something about DEN absolutely SUCKING in this DEPT. Hmm........
Totally revamp the O-Line!!
RODD CRUMMEY AND MILLER are all able to play multiple positions on the O-Line. Make em compete with the guys thast were drafted in the last 2 drafts and complete a solid line for Cutler. Or he's going to be on his back and out of football real soon!

As for the RB situation, well i just could not justify it my mock. Sorry but i need to keep it somewhat legit, but i think that DEN should go after a top notch FA just like last year, only dont draft a dope! (pun intended!)

Michael Turner, UFA, San Diego Chargers
Turner will hit the market at the top of the available running backs list. Many teams will be interested in the services of “The Burner.” Turner would have a chance to start for some NFL teams, but in San Diego he sees limited action behind the stellar LaDainian Tomlinson. He’s just 25 years of age and over the past two seasons combined has averaged more than six yards a carry. With two career runs over 70 yards as a backup, including an 83-yard touchdown in ’05, Turner has shown that he can be a force on the field. He’ll get big dollars from a team looking for a new number one option.

Just get em. Spend the money and the RB issue is solved for years to come. Many critics say Turner is a BETTER inside runner than LT!
Question: How much will it cost to get MTurner into DEN next year?

Also get LB Carlos Dansby via ARI
He would complete the LB core and solve the constant issues.
MIKE Bell
SAM Dansby
Will Williams

Interesting. Its hard to say what we should pick with the Rd 1 pick. A DT made sense somewhere in the 20s but it might be kind of a reach at this point since we want a DT for one dimension, which is run defense. A few tackles I have been watching have been Jeremy Zuttah (Rutgers), Mike Gibson (Cal), and Tony Hills (Texas).

Also Im not a big fan of Jamar Adams. Id rather take Joe Fields later.

With the injury to Walker, it makes me reevaluate my previous draft and think more about a WR. Also, we need a return guy and I think Chris Johnson is someone to look at based on speed alone. And honestly, Id rather get an OLinemen in FA.

[socalorado]

Interesting. Its hard to say what we should pick with the Rd 1 pick. A DT made sense somewhere in the 20s but it might be kind of a reach at this point since we want a DT for one dimension, which is run defense. A few tackles I have been watching have been Jeremy Zuttah (Rutgers), Mike Gibson (Cal), and Tony Hills (Texas).

Also Im not a big fan of Jamar Adams. Id rather take Joe Fields later.

With the injury to Walker, it makes me reevaluate my previous draft and think more about a WR. Also, we need a return guy and I think Chris Johnson is someone to look at based on speed alone. And honestly, Id rather get an OLinemen in FA.

I like Granger. He's young and he's climbing boards as we speak. He will be a top 20 barring injury or a complete meltdown.
As for Adams,Yeah, like i said i just didnt want to waste the pick so i took em for his STs/Leadership qualities. but i am not impressed with him that much as a SS. I like Horton or yes Fields works in the later rounds, but hes a FS so he would just have to convert if DEN aquired DeCoud. Fields is big though, i think 6-1 210.
Speaking of DeCoud, man is he good. He reminds me a little of your boy from last year, Neslon. Fast, nose for the ball, can play the centerfield style that DEN is just absolutely missing right now. This guy would start next year. I think he would STILL be a steal in the 3rd. Plays with a mean streak as well! I really like this guy!
Heres a thought that you were talking about. Another poster put this up in his post.

Karlos Dansby LB (via/Arizona) 4yrs 28 million
Max Starks OT (via/Pittsburgh) 3yrs 18 million
Ryan Lilja OG (via/Indianapolis) 3yrs 12 million
Randy Starks DT (via/Tennessee) 2yrs 3.5 million
Theres a couple of O-Linemen that could upgrade and those picks in my mock could be used elsewhere.

[lex]

Does anyone know anything about Demetrius Bell? He is Karl Malones biological son. He plays for Northwestern St. as a tackle. I just read a write up on him which dotes on his upside...but it also says hes a project. He hasnt spent a lot of time playing football (his HS didnt have a football team) and he hasnt spent a lot of time in the weight room. Only recently has he given up basketball to focus on football. Anyone think he might be worth a 7th round pick? I think it might not be a bad idea to draft him in Rd 7 depending on how far away they think he is. But if he's anything like his father, hitting the gym shouldnt be a problem for him. No one can say that Karl Malone wasnt a hard worker or dedicated. If Demetrius is like that then, he might be worht taking a chance on as a tackle.

[lex]

If Marcus Thigpen enters the draft, he would make a great returner and 3rd down back.

[lex]

Brian Witherspoon of Stillman can run a 4.22 40. He has been an all american in track (10.31 100m.) but is very raw on the football field. Nevertheless, he might be worth a look in the late rounds for his speed. He might make a good return guy with that kind of speed. He is 5'10, 163 though so he is a little undersized but this is also why he might be available later.

Wow, and I see he has a slightly slower but more polished teammate in Denatay Heard, who is also a CB. Wow, either one of these guys might be a good pickup late in the draft. Both are supposed to be good character guys.

OK, another late round return specialist pick up might be Paul Raymond of Brown. He was fifth in the Ivy League 100 m. He runs in the 4.3 range.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=22150

Mikey Henderson of Georgia is anothe returner option late in the draft, if not as an UFA. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=10630
It looks like he is another 4.3ish guy.

And it looks like Jayson Foster could be a poor mans Chris Johnson. Hes another athlete from an obscure school with a fast 40 time and has also recently switched to RB after playing WR. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=25747

[bpc]

Check out the HB from Tulane, the guy is blowing it up.

Who's HOT! - Prospects on the Rise
Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #5 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1-2
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #5 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1-2, #34/350 Overall

RB Ray Rice owns South Florida, a team that hasn't had any trouble spotting any other running back over the past year. Rice ran for 181 yards on 39 carries against the Bulls knocking them and one of the top defenses from their highest ranking in school history, after going for 202 and 158 yards against USF the previous two seasons. South Florida hadn't allowed a running back to gain more than 100 yards since Rice did it last year.

Matt Forte, RB, Tulane
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #12 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 6
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #12 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 6, #204/750 Overall

Forté earned Walter Camp National Offensive Player of the Week for the second time this season after setting Tulane and Conference USA records with 342 yards rushing while scoring four touchdowns on 38 carries in the Green Wave's 41-34 overtime victory over SMU. Forté had two nine-yard touchdown runs - including what proved to be the game-winner in overtime -a five-yard scoring jaunt in the fourth quarter and a career-long 77-yard touchdown sprint in the second quarter. Forté previously earned Walter Camp Offensive Player of the Week honors on Sept. 23 when he initially set the school and league rushing marks with 303 yards against Southeastern Louisiana on Sept. 22 in the Louisiana Superdome. He becomes the first player to earn the national honor twice in a season since 2004 when both Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson and Purdue quarterback Kyle Orton claimed the honor on a pair of occasions.

D.J. Hall, WR, Alabama
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #3 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #3 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1, #21/750 Overall

WR DJ Hall produced his own career day with 13 catches for 185 yards and two touchdowns in the 41-17 victory over 20th-ranked Tennessee. Hall’s performance broke the record previously set by David Bailey vs. Tennessee in 1969 (12 for 153 yards) and against the Vols again in 1970 (12 for 150 yards). With four regular-season games remaining in his senior season Hall is the school’s all-time leader in both career receptions (177) and receiving yards (2,682). He is tied with Ozzie Newsome for second on the career TD receptions chart with 16, two behind Dennis Homan. Through eight games this season Hall leads Alabama with 50 catches for 764 yards and five touchdowns.

Josh Johnson, QB, San Diego
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #10 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 3-4
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #10 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 3-4, #100/750 Overall

QB Josh Johnson needed only one half to post this week’s impressive numbers in a 62-23 PFL victory against Jacksonville. He completed 17-of-22 passes for 249 yards and five touchdowns. Johnson added seven carries for 55 yards and touchdown. The Toreros finished the first half with 380 yards total offense and Johnson was responsible for 304 yards of that total. He also was responsible for six of USD’s eight first-half touchdowns. Johnson, who raised his career starting record to 28-2, has thrown 28 touchdown passes this season with no interceptions.

Tyler Roehl, FB, North Dakota State
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #12 FB, Compiled Projected Round(s):
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #12 FB, Compiled Projected Round(s): PFA

Tyler Roehl rushed for a school record 263 yards and a touchdown and NDSU (7-0) extended the nation's longest winning streak in Division I to 11 games in the big 27 - 21 victory over Minnesota. Roehl bulldozed his way through arm tackles and showed impressive speed in racking up 200 yards rushing on just nine carries, in the first half and the loss by Minnesota means it will miss a bowl game for the first time since 2001.

John Parker Wilson, QB, Alabama
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #9 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 5
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #9 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 5, #174/350 Overall

Junior quarterback John Parker Wilson threw for 363 yards and three touchdowns against No. 20 Tennessee Saturday, leading the Alabama offense to a 24-point win over the Vols. Wilson completed 32-of-46 passes for 363 yards and 3 touchdowns without throwing an interception. The 32 completions tied the Alabama single-game record for completions set by Gary Hollingsworth vs. Tennessee in 1989. Wilson set new singlegame career highs for completions and yards, surpassing previous highs.

[Elway777]

Check out the HB from Tulane, the guy is blowing it up.

Who's HOT! - Prospects on the Rise
Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #5 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1-2
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #5 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1-2, #34/350 Overall

RB Ray Rice owns South Florida, a team that hasn't had any trouble spotting any other running back over the past year. Rice ran for 181 yards on 39 carries against the Bulls knocking them and one of the top defenses from their highest ranking in school history, after going for 202 and 158 yards against USF the previous two seasons. South Florida hadn't allowed a running back to gain more than 100 yards since Rice did it last year.

Matt Forte, RB, Tulane
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #12 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 6
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #12 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 6, #204/750 Overall

Forté earned Walter Camp National Offensive Player of the Week for the second time this season after setting Tulane and Conference USA records with 342 yards rushing while scoring four touchdowns on 38 carries in the Green Wave's 41-34 overtime victory over SMU. Forté had two nine-yard touchdown runs - including what proved to be the game-winner in overtime -a five-yard scoring jaunt in the fourth quarter and a career-long 77-yard touchdown sprint in the second quarter. Forté previously earned Walter Camp Offensive Player of the Week honors on Sept. 23 when he initially set the school and league rushing marks with 303 yards against Southeastern Louisiana on Sept. 22 in the Louisiana Superdome. He becomes the first player to earn the national honor twice in a season since 2004 when both Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson and Purdue quarterback Kyle Orton claimed the honor on a pair of occasions.

D.J. Hall, WR, Alabama
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #3 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #3 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1, #21/750 Overall

WR DJ Hall produced his own career day with 13 catches for 185 yards and two touchdowns in the 41-17 victory over 20th-ranked Tennessee. Hall’s performance broke the record previously set by David Bailey vs. Tennessee in 1969 (12 for 153 yards) and against the Vols again in 1970 (12 for 150 yards). With four regular-season games remaining in his senior season Hall is the school’s all-time leader in both career receptions (177) and receiving yards (2,682). He is tied with Ozzie Newsome for second on the career TD receptions chart with 16, two behind Dennis Homan. Through eight games this season Hall leads Alabama with 50 catches for 764 yards and five touchdowns.

Josh Johnson, QB, San Diego
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #10 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 3-4
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #10 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 3-4, #100/750 Overall

QB Josh Johnson needed only one half to post this week’s impressive numbers in a 62-23 PFL victory against Jacksonville. He completed 17-of-22 passes for 249 yards and five touchdowns. Johnson added seven carries for 55 yards and touchdown. The Toreros finished the first half with 380 yards total offense and Johnson was responsible for 304 yards of that total. He also was responsible for six of USD’s eight first-half touchdowns. Johnson, who raised his career starting record to 28-2, has thrown 28 touchdown passes this season with no interceptions.

Tyler Roehl, FB, North Dakota State
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #12 FB, Compiled Projected Round(s):
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #12 FB, Compiled Projected Round(s): PFA

Tyler Roehl rushed for a school record 263 yards and a touchdown and NDSU (7-0) extended the nation's longest winning streak in Division I to 11 games in the big 27 - 21 victory over Minnesota. Roehl bulldozed his way through arm tackles and showed impressive speed in racking up 200 yards rushing on just nine carries, in the first half and the loss by Minnesota means it will miss a bowl game for the first time since 2001.

John Parker Wilson, QB, Alabama
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #9 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 5
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #9 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 5, #174/350 Overall

Junior quarterback John Parker Wilson threw for 363 yards and three touchdowns against No. 20 Tennessee Saturday, leading the Alabama offense to a 24-point win over the Vols. Wilson completed 32-of-46 passes for 363 yards and 3 touchdowns without throwing an interception. The 32 completions tied the Alabama single-game record for completions set by Gary Hollingsworth vs. Tennessee in 1989. Wilson set new singlegame career highs for completions and yards, surpassing previous highs.Great list of prospects and most of these players should be second day picks. This is a deep draft and good draft to have alot of picks. Check out Brian Johnston and Dom Barber also.

[bpc]

Here's the full list for week 8. I'll put the guys in bold that I have my eye on:

Who's HOT! - Prospects on the Rise

Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #5 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1-2
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #5 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1-2, #34/350 Overall

RB Ray Rice owns South Florida, a team that hasn't had any trouble spotting any other running back over the past year. Rice ran for 181 yards on 39 carries against the Bulls knocking them and one of the top defenses from their highest ranking in school history, after going for 202 and 158 yards against USF the previous two seasons. South Florida hadn't allowed a running back to gain more than 100 yards since Rice did it last year.

Matt Forte, RB, Tulane
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #12 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 6
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #12 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 6, #204/750 Overall

Forté earned Walter Camp National Offensive Player of the Week for the second time this season after setting Tulane and Conference USA records with 342 yards rushing while scoring four touchdowns on 38 carries in the Green Wave's 41-34 overtime victory over SMU. Forté had two nine-yard touchdown runs - including what proved to be the game-winner in overtime -a five-yard scoring jaunt in the fourth quarter and a career-long 77-yard touchdown sprint in the second quarter. Forté previously earned Walter Camp Offensive Player of the Week honors on Sept. 23 when he initially set the school and league rushing marks with 303 yards against Southeastern Louisiana on Sept. 22 in the Louisiana Superdome. He becomes the first player to earn the national honor twice in a season since 2004 when both Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson and Purdue quarterback Kyle Orton claimed the honor on a pair of occasions.

D.J. Hall, WR, Alabama
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #3 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #3 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1, #21/750 Overall

WR DJ Hall produced his own career day with 13 catches for 185 yards and two touchdowns in the 41-17 victory over 20th-ranked Tennessee. Hall’s performance broke the record previously set by David Bailey vs. Tennessee in 1969 (12 for 153 yards) and against the Vols again in 1970 (12 for 150 yards). With four regular-season games remaining in his senior season Hall is the school’s all-time leader in both career receptions (177) and receiving yards (2,682). He is tied with Ozzie Newsome for second on the career TD receptions chart with 16, two behind Dennis Homan. Through eight games this season Hall leads Alabama with 50 catches for 764 yards and five touchdowns.

Josh Johnson, QB, San Diego
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #10 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 3-4
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #10 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 3-4, #100/750 Overall

QB Josh Johnson needed only one half to post this week’s impressive numbers in a 62-23 PFL victory against Jacksonville. He completed 17-of-22 passes for 249 yards and five touchdowns. Johnson added seven carries for 55 yards and touchdown. The Toreros finished the first half with 380 yards total offense and Johnson was responsible for 304 yards of that total. He also was responsible for six of USD’s eight first-half touchdowns. Johnson, who raised his career starting record to 28-2, has thrown 28 touchdown passes this season with no interceptions.
D.J. Wolfe, SS, Oklahoma
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #16 SS, Compiled Projected Round(s):
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #16 SS, Compiled Projected Round(s): PFA, #368/750 Overall

With the Sooners clinging to a 14-7 lead and Iowa State throwing on second-and-goal at the six, safety D.J. Wolfe deflected and then intercepted a pass by Bret Meyer in the end zone. The senior also tied for the team lead with 11 tackles, including one tackle for loss and eight solo stops.

Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #4 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #4 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1, #22/350 Overall

RB Jonathan Stewart ran for a career-high 251 yards, 144 of them in the first half, and two of Oregon's six rushing touchdowns in the 55-34 victory over Washington. Stewart moved into ninth place on the Ducks' all-time rushing list (2,109) and had the first 200-yard game by a Duck in six years.

John Parker Wilson, QB, Alabama
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #9 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 5
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #9 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 5, #174/350 Overall

Junior quarterback John Parker Wilson threw for 363 yards and three touchdowns against No. 20 Tennessee Saturday, leading the Alabama offense to a 24-point win over the Vols. Wilson completed 32-of-46 passes for 363 yards and 3 touchdowns without throwing an interception. The 32 completions tied the Alabama single-game record for completions set by Gary Hollingsworth vs. Tennessee in 1989. Wilson set new singlegame career highs for completions and yards, surpassing previous highs.

Tyler Roehl, FB, North Dakota State
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #12 FB, Compiled Projected Round(s):
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #12 FB, Compiled Projected Round(s): PFA

Tyler Roehl rushed for a school record 263 yards and a touchdown and NDSU (7-0) extended the nation's longest winning streak in Division I to 11 games in the big 27 - 21 victory over Minnesota. Roehl bulldozed his way through arm tackles and showed impressive speed in racking up 200 yards rushing on just nine carries, in the first half and the loss by Minnesota means it will miss a bowl game for the first time since 2001.

James Hardy, WR, Indiana
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #4 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #4 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1, #24/350 Overall

WR James Hardy's 14 catches against Penn State were the second-most in school history for one game and he did most his damage against CB Justin King, a top 10 junior CB. They totaled 142 yards and two touchdowns on a day the offense fumbled the game away.

Jamar Brittingham, RB, Bloomsburg
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #27 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s):
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #27 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): PFA, #407/750 Overall

Jamar Brittingham rushed for a career-high 257 yards, scored four touchdowns and became Bloomsburg’s all-time career rushing leader in helping the Huskies to a 42-28 win over Millersville. The senior scored on runs of 19, 1, 16 and 81 yards on the day. He now has 5,219 career rushing yards to move past Irv Sigler for the school’s all-time career mark and past Sigler for second on the PSAC all-time career list. Brittingham is also now 18th on the NCAA D-II career rushing list.

Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #39 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 7-FA
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #39 WR/KR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 7-FA, #291/750 Overall

Former walk-on WR Jordy Nelson was sensational again, catching the two-point pass with 1:10 remaining to give Kansas State a brief lead at Oklahoma State. He finished with 12 receptions for 176 yards, including TD grabs of 17, 46 and 11 yards. Nelson, a former strong safety, has emerged as one of college football's most dependable downfield targets as a senior. Nelson broke out as a sophomore, but struggled last season with injury and thus entered this year ranked low on scouts' boards. Through 7 games this season, the 6-2, 213 pounder is averaging 129 receiving yards a game and has nearly double the receptions (68) as the Wildcats' second leading receiver (35).
Cullen Harper, QB, Clemson
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #14 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 7
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #14 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 7, #264/350 Overall

QB Cullen Harper got just what he needed against Central Michigan. He threw for five touchdowns to tie his own school record and was 20 of 22 for 273 yards. Along the way, he also set a school record with 15 consecutive completions in the third quarter. He did have one interception and was sacked once, but he still managed to come up with a plus-7 in rushing yards.

Erin Henderson, OLB, Maryland
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #1 OLB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #1 OLB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1, #15/350 Overall

The junior returned from a couple of weeks out of the lineup and is playing with a broken thumb and a sore knee to tally a career-high 18 tackles against the Cavaliers. It caps a week in which he was also honored as one of the final 10 in contention for this season's Butkus Award, given to the best collegiate linebacker.

Matt Flynn, QB, LSU
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #8 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 3-4
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #8 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 3-4, #94/750 Overall

QB Matt Flynn still got hurt by dropped passes and his own missed opportunities, but he also played his best overall game of the season against Auburn, passing for 319 yards and three touchdowns, including the game-winning 22-yard touchdown pass with one second left.

Lex Hilliard, RB, Montana
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #26 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s):
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #26 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): PFA, #394/750 Overall

Lex Hilliard rushed for 112 yards and set the Grizzlies' career rushing touchdown record in a 52-7 win over Northern Colorado. Hilliard's second TD, a 39-yard run with 13:55 left in the fourth quarter, was his 44th, one more than Yohance Humphery had from 1998 through 2001.

Kenneth Moore, WR, Wake Forest
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #28 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 5-6
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #28 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 5-6, #198/750 Overall

For the second time this season, WR Kenny Moore matched a school single-game record with 15 receptions. They were good for a career-high 181 yards and two touchdowns in the 44-24 victory over Navy. Moore had his season average for catches per game by halftime with seven grabs. He also had 15 receptions in the opening loss at Boston College.

Kevin Smith, RB, Central Florida
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #6 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1-2
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #6 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1-2, #46/350 Overall

It took a week for Central Florida running back Kevin Smith to return to his usual self. After a season-low 55 yards against then-No. 5 South Florida on Oct. 13, the junior had 170 yards on 33 carries with four touchdowns in the Golden Knights' 44-23 win against Tulsa. Smith is the focal point of UCF's offense and has to have a good game to give his team a chance to win. With 140 rushing yards and four touchdowns, Smith moved into second place on UCF's career-rushing and career TD lists and returned to second in the nation in rushing, with 155 yards per game, and scoring, with 12.86 points per game.

[bpc]

Lionel Dotson, DT, Arizona
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #14 DT, Compiled Projected Round(s): 4-5
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #14 DT/DE, Compiled Projected Round(s): 4-5, #149/750 Overall

DT Lionel Dotson is leading the Pac-10 along the interior lineman in sacks with 5 1/2 this season, including at least one in four straight games. He had nine tackles, including a sack against Stanford.

Dorien Bryant, WR, Purdue
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #7 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 2
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #7 WR/KR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 2, #41/750 Overall

WR Dorien Bryant caught nine passes for a career high 167 yards and two touchdowns. After Ohio State and Michigan bottled him up, Bryant released two weeks of frustration on the Hawkeyes. The Hawkeyes had entered the game with the Big Ten's No. 3-ranked pass defense allowing 184.7 yards per game, but gave up 315 to the Boilermakers.
Steve Tate, FS, Utah
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #34 FS, Compiled Projected Round(s):
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #34 FS/SS, Compiled Projected Round(s): PFA, #655/750 Overall

Safety Steve Tate led the defensive charge with 12 tackles as well as a sack and one interception against TCU. Utah's leader in tackles added to his total for 66 on the season. His interception late in the fourth quarter helped thwart a TCU rally and hold the 27-20 victory.

Cameron Luke, WR, Texas State
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #48 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s):
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #48 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): PFA

Luke tied a Southland Conference record and set a new Bobcat Stadium mark with four touchdown receptions against Stephen F. Austin. He caught seven passes for 152 yards, including touchdown receptions of 15, 25, 20 and 42 yards. Luke also had a 31-yard catch to the SFA seven which would set up Texas State’s final touchdown of the first half and give the Bobcats a 31-7 lead at the break.

Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #5 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #5 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1, #28/350 Overall

After a slow start to the season, Manningham is finishing strong. His nine catches for 109 yards and two touchdowns against Illinois make him the sixth receiver in school history with 20 or more career touchdown catches. He has now caught eight or more passes in three straight Big Ten contests.

Early Doucet, WR, LSU
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #1 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #1 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1, #9/750 Overall

WR Early Doucet's season got off to a strong start but he missed four consecutive games before playing a limited role in the Kentucky game and coming back in a big way against Auburn. Doucet started and caught his first pass since the Virginia Tech game on Sept. 8. His impact was both immediate and significant, with his seven catches for a season-high 93 yards transforming a struggling passing game. Despite missing so much game time, he's still second on the team with 22 receptions for 246 receiving yards and two touchdowns.

Kalvin McRae, RB, Ohio
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #11 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 5-6
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #11 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 5-6, #192/750 Overall

RB Kalvin McRae was stellar for a second straight week and racked up a season-high 182 yards and tied a career-high with three rushing touchdowns on 25 carries. He added three catches for 52 yards. McRae picked up his 17th career 100-yard game and moved up to second on Ohio's all-time carries list. With 3,822 career rushing yards, McRae is now just 150 yards from the all-time mark of 3,972 set by Steveland Hookfin.

Marcus Griffin, FS, Texas
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #4 FS, Compiled Projected Round(s): 3-4
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #4 FS/SS, Compiled Projected Round(s): 3-4, #106/750 Overall

Safety Marcus Griffin had six tackles and intercepted two passes against Baylor, returning a fourth-quarter pick 91 yards for a touchdown. It was the third-longest interception return in school history, trailing only Jack Collins' 95-yarder vs. Baylor in 1936 and a 92-yarder by Harrison Stafford vs. SMU in 1932.

Jonathan Goff, ILB, Vanderbilt
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #5 ILB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 3
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #5 ILB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 3, #84/750 Overall

LB Jonathan Goff finished with six tackles and picked off a Blake Mitchell pass in the fourth quarter, ending South Carolina's last real threat. Goff also broke up two passes.

Jorvorskie Lane, FB, Texas A&M
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #1 FB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 4
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #1 FB/RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 4, #132/350 Overall

Jorvorskie Lane decided to be "lightning" alongside McGee's powerful performance. Lane rushed 15 times for 130 yards and scored four touchdowns from 1, 2, 4 and 1 yards out. He broke off three carries of 22 yards or more. After Nebraska cut A&M's lead to two points, Lane scored the final three touchdowns of the game. He is now one touchdown away from tying Darren Lewis' 44 rushing touchdowns school record.

Scott McKillop, ILB, Pittsburgh
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #13 ILB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 7-FA
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #13 ILB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 7-FA, #294/350 Overall

Just when it looked as if Pittsburgh's season had gone completely into the tank, the Panthers pulled quite the surprise and rallied for a 24-17 upset victory over No. 23 Cincinnati. LB Scott McKillop had another big game as he was in on 16 tackles, including nine solo stops.

Dicky Lyons Jr., WR, Kentucky
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #45 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s):
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #45 WR/KR, Compiled Projected Round(s): PFA

Lyons Jr has taken a back seat to Burton and Steve Johnson for most of the season. But Oct. 20 was Lyons' day. The senior caught eight passes for 124 yards and three touchdowns in the loss to Florida.

Dantrell Savage, RB, Oklahoma State
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #8 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 4
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #8 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 4, #130/750 Overall

RB Dantrell Savage recorded his fifth straight 100-yard game, carrying 28 times for a game-high 124 yards in a dramatic 41-39 win against Kansas State. His 24-yard reception in the closing minutes helped to set up the game-winning field goal.

Chad Henne, QB, Michigan
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #4 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1-2
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #4 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1-2, #26/750 Overall

QB Chad Henne twice was knocked out of the game with a shoulder injury, but kept coming back. With backup Ryan Mallett struggling, Henne fought through a painful shoulder injury to return in the fourth quarter against Illinois and lead Michigan to the win. He threw for 201 yards and three touchdowns with one INT despite the injury.

Cornelius Brown, SS, Missouri
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #27 SS, Compiled Projected Round(s):
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #27 FS/SS/KR, Compiled Projected Round(s): PFA, #641/750 Overall

Safety Pig Brown recorded a game-high 14 tackles, including 4 1/2 behind the line of scrimmage, and was credited with two breakups. One of those was an interception by Brown, and the other was a pass he deflected, which DE Stryker Sulak picked off and returned 38 yards for a touchdown.

DeSean Jackson, WR, California
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #1 WR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #1 WR/KR, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1, #3/350 Overall

Coming off a game against Oregon State in which he had four catches for five yards, Jackson was back in big-play form. He caught nine passes for 136 yards and two touchdowns, including a 39-yarder on which he sped behind the UCLA secondary. His two-yard touchdown reception gave Cal a 21-20 lead in the third quarter.

Tavares Gooden, ILB, Miami
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #4 ILB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 2
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #4 ILB/OLB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 2, #45/750 Overall

LB Tavares Gooden had one of his best games of the season. He was credited with 10 tackles to tie Colin McCarthy for team and game honors (along with FSU's Derek Nicholson), and he also recovered two fumbles that led to 10 Miami points. He had one tackle for a loss and did a solid job in pass defense.

Pat White, RB, West Virginia
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #7 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1-2
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #7 RB/QB/ATH, Compiled Projected Round(s): 1-2, #49/350 Overall

QB Pat White played only a half against Mississippi State but was certainly the difference maker as he set the tone by running 64 yards for a touchdown on the game's first play. White finished with 89 yards rushing on just five carries and threw for 61 yards and two touchdowns before sitting out the second half as a precaution because of a strained neck.

Spencer Larsen, ILB, Arizona
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #13 ILB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 6-7
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #13 ILB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 6-7, #229/750 Overall

Arizona inside linebacker Spencer Larsen is quietly emerging as one of the nation's best at his position. Larsen was particularly effective this week against Stanford, posting a game-high 14 tackles, including 10 solos, 2 tackles for loss, a forced fumble, and an interception. The game was indicative of the type of season Larsen is enjoying, as he's averaging 10 tackles and a tackle for loss a game over the first half of the season.

Jalen Parmele, RB, Toledo
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #21 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s):
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #21 RB, Compiled Projected Round(s): PFA, #313/750 Overall

TB Jalen Parmele lost a key fumble late in the victory over Ohio, but he rushed for a career-best 241 yards and scored two touchdowns. Parmele rushed for more than 100 yards for the fourth straight game.

Chase Holbrook, QB, New Mexico State
Current Rating: 2009 Draft Scout #5 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 2-3
Rating on 10/22/07: 2009 #5 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): 2-3, #81/350 Overall

Returning from a two-game absence with bruised ribs, the junior completed 36 of 49 passes (73.5 percent) for 404 yards, three touchdowns and zero interceptions. He completed passes to nine different receivers and topped 400 yards for the seventh time in his career.

Mil'Von James, CB, UNLV
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #71 CB, Compiled Projected Round(s):
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #71 CB/S, Compiled Projected Round(s): FA

CB Mil'Von James had three more passes defended in the loss to Colorado State. The senior transfer from UCLA now has a conference-leading 14 passes defended, which also ranks him fourth in the nation (1.75 per game).

Brandon Cox, QB, Auburn
Current Rating: 2008 Draft Scout #23 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s):
Rating on 10/22/07: 2008 #23 QB, Compiled Projected Round(s): PFA, #345/750 Overall

QB Brandon Cox has been mostly effective over the past five weeks, especially in the final stages of road games against Florida, Arkansas and LSU. He led the Tigers on last-minute, game-winning scoring drives against Florida and Arkansas and put Auburn ahead 24-23 at LSU by throwing a three-yard touchdown pass to receiver Rod Smith with 3:21 left in the game. For the game, he completed 18 of 28 passes for 199 yards with two touchdowns and no turnovers.

[Requiem]

DJ Hall has been a guy I've been talking about for a while now. I really think he'd be a nice dimension to the team. Sort of reminds me of Reggie Brown who the Eagles have, and I think he'll be a draft board riser. Might not be a first-round guy, but he'll be damn close.

Bryant from Purdue was another guy I liked as well. I was up late all night and ended up catching the replay of that game mentioned. He'd be killer in the slot and would be a nice returner. Problem is, Denver has bigger problems than wide receiver right now (pending Walker's return) and not enough first day picks to justify selecting one.

If we could move back into Day One, I'd consider it. There should be some good depth in Round 4 if we want to look for a guy there.

[bpc]

I think we definitely need to start looking at WR's in the future and take some shots at them. Rod is basically done, Javon's knee troubles me and even Stokely at best, has a couple more seasons in him. We have Brandon and some lesser known guys who may rise, or may fall. We don't have any reason to trust them right now though.

Does anybody recall if Anquan Boldin is a FA this offseason? That guy would be a perfect fit with Brandon Marshall on the field, catching and run blocking for this team.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Since before the season started, I have felt the WR position was fragile - Rod's hip, Walker's knee, Stokley's heel and Marshall's mindset. I think there is a definite need to look at the position in the offseason. I am shocked they have Hardy ranked that high. I didn't see him play PSU, but I have seen him twice this year and he didn't really stand out.

[lex]

DJ Hall has been a guy I've been talking about for a while now. I really think he'd be a nice dimension to the team. Sort of reminds me of Reggie Brown who the Eagles have, and I think he'll be a draft board riser. Might not be a first-round guy, but he'll be damn close.

Bryant from Purdue was another guy I liked as well. I was up late all night and ended up catching the replay of that game mentioned. He'd be killer in the slot and would be a nice returner. Problem is, Denver has bigger problems than wide receiver right now (pending Walker's return) and not enough first day picks to justify selecting one.

If we could move back into Day One, I'd consider it. There should be some good depth in Round 4 if we want to look for a guy there.

I dont know how reliable it is but Ive read that Dorien Bryant has character issues...that he's a prima donna and not very tough. Ive also read he hears footsteps.

I also see that Bryant is slotted by some as going in the 2nd.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=WR&draftyear=2008&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC

Have as anyone seen much of Mark Bradford of Stanford?

[lex]

Right on.


1st DeMarcus Granger DT OK
2nd Beau Bell MLB UNLV
3rd Lavelle Hawkins WR CAL (aquired from TB for 08 4th/09 3rd and RB MBELL)
3rd Thomas DeCoud FS CAL (aquired from NO for CB Dominique Foxworth)
4th Jamar Adams, SS, MICHIGAN
5th Brandon Rodd OG ARIZ ST ( can play tackle and guard )
5th Andrew Crummey OT MARYLAND (can play guard and center.)
7th Tad Miller OG BOISE ST. or Leon Hart OG AUBURN
7th Brandyn Dombrowski OG SD ST. (can play either side of the line)

Granger is this years Amobe Okoye, Young and super talented. just can't pass him up. Especially considering that Okam is notoriously lazy and Ellis does not fit the system.
With the injury to Walker, i decided to go out and get a WR that would be a good fit with Marshall. Hawkins is a good possesion guy with great speed. (4.43) he's just good so spend the 1st day pick! No more "Hixon/Watts" guys.
DeCoud is moving up draft boards, so he's not a sleeper anymore! This guy is a great coverage guy and is just flat out talented. He is also a team leader.
Jamar Adams is a tough one cause i think the Broncos are just sooo depleted at SS as well! But i dont want to waste the pick. Maybe Chris Horton here as well. Adams is the leader of the MICH defense and is the teams leading retruning STs tackler. Huh. A good STs guy!?!?!? Hmmm. i remember somebody saying something about DEN absolutely SUCKING in this DEPT. Hmm........
Totally revamp the O-Line!!
RODD CRUMMEY AND MILLER are all able to play multiple positions on the O-Line. Make em compete with the guys thast were drafted in the last 2 drafts and complete a solid line for Cutler. Or he's going to be on his back and out of football real soon!

As for the RB situation, well i just could not justify it my mock. Sorry but i need to keep it somewhat legit, but i think that DEN should go after a top notch FA just like last year, only dont draft a dope! (pun intended!)

Michael Turner, UFA, San Diego Chargers
Turner will hit the market at the top of the available running backs list. Many teams will be interested in the services of “The Burner.” Turner would have a chance to start for some NFL teams, but in San Diego he sees limited action behind the stellar LaDainian Tomlinson. He’s just 25 years of age and over the past two seasons combined has averaged more than six yards a carry. With two career runs over 70 yards as a backup, including an 83-yard touchdown in ’05, Turner has shown that he can be a force on the field. He’ll get big dollars from a team looking for a new number one option.

Just get em. Spend the money and the RB issue is solved for years to come. Many critics say Turner is a BETTER inside runner than LT!
Question: How much will it cost to get MTurner into DEN next year?

Also get LB Carlos Dansby via ARI
He would complete the LB core and solve the constant issues.
MIKE Bell
SAM Dansby
WILL Williams

OK, Im going with the assumption wed draft around 16. And with the 16th pick, Im trading down to 21 and acquiring a 3rd Rd pick in the process. So, here it is:

1. Erin Henderson, Maryland, OLB
2. Dre Moore, Maryland, DT
3. Cory Boyd, S. Carolina, RB
4. Craig Steltz, LSU, S
4. Mark Bradford, Standord, WR
5. Jeremy Zuttah, Rutgers, OL
5. Bryan Kehl, BYU, OLB
7. Joe Fields, Syracuse, S
7. Paul Raymond, Brown, WR

Im not sold on some of the draft positions. In the past, I would use more than one source but this time I used the following for reference:
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...C&startspot=25

[socalorado]

OK, Im going with the assumption wed draft around 16. And with the 16th pick, Im trading down to 21 and acquiring a 3rd Rd pick in the process. So, here it is:

1. Erin Henderson, Maryland, OLB
2. Dre Moore, Maryland, DT
3. Cory Boyd, S. Carolina, RB
4. Craig Steltz, LSU, S
4. Mark Bradford, Standord, WR
5. Jeremy Zuttah, Rutgers, OL
5. Bryan Kehl, BYU, OLB
7. Joe Fields, Syracuse, S
7. Paul Raymond, Brown, WR

Im not sold on some of the draft positions. In the past, I would use more than one source but this time I used the following for reference:
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...C&startspot=25
OK! Now were getting somewhere!
Yeah i like Moore in the 2nd. Good pick. I hope Stetzl is still there, might be gone by then but yeah , nice pick as well. Boyd is a no brainer, and would start his rookie season. Dude is a workhorse.
Overall, that would be a sweet draft and i would be totally content. I like Fields and i would love to get him and then sign the other 2 (yes, 2) Safeties from Syracuse as RFA.
Dowayne Davis, SS, Syracuse
Height: 6-0. Weight: 200.
40 Time: 4.39.
Projected Round: 6-7.
Two-year starter at Syracuse. Recorded two picks in 2005 but none in 2006.
Kevin Mitchell, SS, Syracuse
Height: 6-0. Weight: 200.
40 Time: 4.55.
Projected Round: 7.
One of three safety prospects from Syracuse, Kevin Mitchell is one of the hardest-hitting players in this class. Run stoppers / STs anyone?

These are those kind of guys that are just flat out football players. Maybe not the most absolutlely talented, but they come to play, and will lay the wood if given the chance.

On a side note, since we are discussing Safeties, i would just love for this guy to slip through the cracks and fall into the 5th round.I really like this guy! He's my NEW SLEEPER! DeCoud is rising, and will be a hot prospect in no time flat!
Bobbie Williams, FS, Bethune-Cookman
Height: 6-1. Weight: 210.
40 Time: 4.45.
Projected Rounds: 4-5.
Following in the footsteps of Bethune-Cookman alumnus and current Packers safety Nick Collins, Bobbie Williams is the best safety in 1-AA. An interception machine, Williams has picked off 13 passes in his career.
This guy would be a great pick-up, and is very much in the mold of a certain CB DEN currenty has on its roster!
http://nfldraftguys.com/features/2008_NFL_Draft_Prospect_Interview_Bobbie_Williams_ Bethune_Cookman_FS.php
Great article/interview on him.

OK back to your draft!
Kehl is also a nice pickup. I think he rises as well but just a little. He's huge!
So yeah, in the Bates system i think if hes fast enough, he would be a good fit. Alot of posters would want Dizon COL with that pick, but it is more of a homer thing at that point.
The only concern pick for me is the Bradford STAN WR. Injury concerns with him are huge! I guess it just depends on his final numbers at seasons end.
I just am tired of all the Watts/Hixons. I dont know what position is more important right now for DEN, WR or RB. Its sort of a toss up with those 3rd/4th rounders. I still really like Lavelle Hawkins WR CAL. I think this team needs to get 2 3rd rounders somehow.

[lex]

OK! Now were getting somewhere!
Yeah i like Moore in the 2nd. Good pick. I hope Stetzl is still there, might be gone by then but yeah , nice pick as well. Boyd is a no brainer, and would start his rookie season. Dude is a workhorse.
Overall, that would be a sweet draft and i would be totally content. I like Fields and i would love to get him and then sign the other 2 (yes, 2) Safeties from Syracuse as RFA.
Dowayne Davis, SS, Syracuse
Height: 6-0. Weight: 200.
40 Time: 4.39.
Projected Round: 6-7.
Two-year starter at Syracuse. Recorded two picks in 2005 but none in 2006.
Kevin Mitchell, SS, Syracuse
Height: 6-0. Weight: 200.
40 Time: 4.55.
Projected Round: 7.
One of three safety prospects from Syracuse, Kevin Mitchell is one of the hardest-hitting players in this class. Run stoppers / STs anyone?

These are those kind of guys that are just flat out football players. Maybe not the most absolutlely talented, but they come to play, and will lay the wood if given the chance.

On a side note, since we are discussing Safeties, i would just love for this guy to slip through the cracks and fall into the 5th round.I really like this guy! He's my NEW SLEEPER! DeCoud is rising, and will be a hot prospect in no time flat!
Bobbie Williams, FS, Bethune-Cookman
Height: 6-1. Weight: 210.
40 Time: 4.45.
Projected Rounds: 4-5.
Following in the footsteps of Bethune-Cookman alumnus and current Packers safety Nick Collins, Bobbie Williams is the best safety in 1-AA. An interception machine, Williams has picked off 13 passes in his career.
This guy would be a great pick-up, and is very much in the mold of a certain CB DEN currenty has on its roster!
http://nfldraftguys.com/features/2008_NFL_Draft_Prospect_Interview_Bobbie_Williams_ Bethune_Cookman_FS.php
Great article/interview on him.

OK back to your draft!
Kehl is also a nice pickup. I think he rises as well but just a little. He's huge!
So yeah, in the Bates system i think if hes fast enough, he would be a good fit. Alot of posters would want Dizon COL with that pick, but it is more of a homer thing at that point.
The only concern pick for me is the Bradford STAN WR. Injury concerns with him are huge! I guess it just depends on his final numbers at seasons end.
I just am tired of all the Watts/Hixons. I dont know what position is more important right now for DEN, WR or RB. Its sort of a toss up with those 3rd/4th rounders. I still really like Lavelle Hawkins WR CAL. I think this team needs to get 2 3rd rounders somehow.

I went with Fields for a couple of reasons. 1) He is the best tackler on the Syracuse team. Id rather have that in the last line of defense. 2) He recently converted from QB to S. I think having played QB might be an advantage for a Safety.

[socalorado]

I went with Fields for a couple of reasons. 1) He is the best tackler on the Syracuse team. Id rather have that in the last line of defense. 2) He recently converted from QB to S. I think having played QB might be an advantage for a Safety.

Oh no! I like Fields better than the other 2, i just would like to grab them as UFA's, and have some depth at the position! DEN is so depleted at safety. Everyone keeps saying that Abdullah is going to be fine and that he will start.......huh? who's Abdullah? This guy has done nothing but sit injured on the bench for the Broncos. nah, i would rather see some tough guys that like to hit come in and play STs and have them for depth. i dont know where posters get the idea that Abdullah is this super talented player. I see his brother at WA ST. as being a kinda talented guy, but so far Hamzas done nothing. I would like to see Bobbie Williams go in the 4th/5th or get Fields like you said 6th/7th. I know, we dont have a 6th. but thats an easy fix with 2 7ths. BTW, Fields can be our back up QB as well! HA! I wonder if Fields can play SS? Hows his run stopping ability? he seems to be more of a roamer back there huh? I would be cool with either of em.

[lex]

Oh no! I like Fields better than the other 2, i just would like to grab them as UFA's, and have some depth at the position! DEN is so depleted at safety. Everyone keeps saying that Abdullah is going to be fine and that he will start.......huh? who's Abdullah? This guy has done nothing but sit injured on the bench for the Broncos. nah, i would rather see some tough guys that like to hit come in and play STs and have them for depth. i dont know where posters get the idea that Abdullah is this super talented player. I see his brother at WA ST. as being a kinda talented guy, but so far Hamzas done nothing. I would like to see Bobbie Williams go in the 4th/5th or get Fields like you said 6th/7th. I know, we dont have a 6th. but thats an easy fix with 2 7ths. BTW, Fields can be our back up QB as well! HA! I wonder if Fields can play SS? Hows his run stopping ability? he seems to be more of a roamer back there huh? I would be cool with either of em.

He played in the box a lot against Rutgers.

[socalorado]

He played in the box a lot against Rutgers.

Really?! This is good cause i would actually rather use that Stetzl pick on a WR! I like Stetzl, and if DEN got him i wouldnt complain. Hes really good against the run but nothing to really write home about against the pass though.
Fields isnt huge, but from what ive read, he plays bigger than he is.
Also Syracuse coaching staff is absolutely fantastic at teaching both tackling and hitting!
Last year i can remember all of us talking about at the very least drafting Tanard Jackson in like the 4th or 5th round. *sighs* Guy has been TBs player of the week for that team a bunch! He is constanlty making great plays and is currently the STARTER! at safetyas a rookie!
Heres a video of Tanard BLOWING UP Dallas Clark!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8vTi4H6qiQ

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Also Syracuse coaching staff is absolutely fantastic at teaching both tackling and hitting!
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Greg Robinson? He couldn't do it for the Broncs or the Squaws.

[socalorado]

Greg Robinson? He couldn't do it for the Broncs or the Squaws.

Whatever "they" are doing, it working cause they turn out some pretty good players.

[chaz]

does no one else think we will put a higher tender on foxworth than a 3rd?!

[socalorado]

does no one else think we will put a higher tender on foxworth than a 3rd?!

After the game against PIT, he is easily worth a 2nd round pick.
There are teams such as NO or BUF that could use him.
He will be a RFA at the end of the year.

[lex]

After the game against PIT, he is easily worth a 2nd round pick.
There are teams such as NO or BUF that could use him.
He will be a RFA at the end of the year.

Doesnt NO need a LB too? Maybe we can put a nice package together for them with some combination of Gold, Webster and Foxworth. Actually, that might work with Buf as well.

[socalorado]

Doesnt NO need a LB too? Maybe we can put a nice package together for them with some combination of Gold, Webster and Foxworth. Actually, that might work with Buf as well.

Yeas they do. And it wont get any better than this offseason to make a trade for pick(s). I would love to trade Foxworth to NO for Roman Harper straight up. Both teams would get what they need from this trade. But, if DEN could throw in a LB, and keep Beck for depth, that would be even better!
Also NO and MIA are depleted at RB as well! Throw in MBell and get some much needed 3rd round value picks. All of these guys could be packaged in a deal.

[lex]

Yeas they do. And it wont get any better than this offseason to make a trade for pick(s). I would love to trade Foxworth to NO for Roman Harper straight up. Both teams would get what they need from this trade. But, if DEN could throw in a LB, and keep Beck for depth, that would be even better!
Also NO and MIA are depleted at RB as well! Throw in MBell and get some much needed 3rd round value picks. All of these guys could be packaged in a deal.


Just for fun, I went and did draft where we would make a trade to draft high enough to select McFadden. First, we trade Foxworth, Gold, our 2008 1st, 2009 1st & 3rd. Then we sign Teddy Lehman and Boss Bailey(Drek sold me on this idea). So here it is:

1) Darren McFadden, RB
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=56491
2) Dre Moore, DT
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=10964
4) Duane Brown, OT
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=11685
4) Maurice Murray, DT
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=73860
5) Jeremy Zuttah, OL
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=33570
5) Bryan Kehl, OLB
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=68185
7) Joe Fields, S
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings....php?pyid=9466
7) Paul Raymond, WR/Ret
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=22150

BTW, I could live with Long or McFadden but I think Long is more likely to go in the top 5 when looking at a lot of the teams that are likely to be in the top 5.

[socalorado]

Just for fun, I went and did draft where we would make a trade to draft high enough to select McFadden. First, we trade Foxworth, Gold, our 2008 1st, 2009 1st & 3rd. Then we sign Teddy Lehman and Boss Bailey(Drek sold me on this idea). So here it is:

1) Darren McFadden, RB
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=56491
2) Dre Moore, DT
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=10964
4) Duane Brown, OT
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=11685
4) Maurice Murray, DT
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=73860
5) Jeremy Zuttah, OL
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=33570
5) Bryan Kehl, OLB
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=68185
7) Joe Fields, S
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings....php?pyid=9466
7) Paul Raymond, WR/Ret
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=22150

BTW, I could live with Long or McFadden but I think Long is more likely to go in the top 5 when looking at a lot of the teams that are likely to be in the top 5.

Dang. I didnt think one of us could make a legit mock with McFadden going to DEN, but you managed to pull it off!
This would basically cause everyone to just go , "Well, DEN wont have anymore redzone issues!"
HAHA! If DEN got Moore and Kehl as well, that would basically take all of the naysayers out of the argument for trading away the 2009 1st. Not bad, not bad at all.

[lex]

Dang. I didnt think one of us could make a legit mock with McFadden going to DEN, but you managed to pull it off!
This would basically cause everyone to just go , "Well, DEN wont have anymore redzone issues!"
HAHA! If DEN got Moore and Kehl as well, that would basically take all of the naysayers out of the argument for trading away the 2009 1st. Not bad, not bad at all.

Cool. Im glad you like it. I dont think it will happen but Id be all for it, btw.

[socalorado]

Heres a mock i have been messing with, i am trying to find value at every spot, without having to break the bank as well!

OG Alan Faneca
OT Max Starks
OLB Boss Bailey
DEN trades CB Dominique Foxworth to New Orleans for a 3rd round pick in the draft.(yep, NO solves a need and this pick allows DEN to get much needed help at WR! I think DEN may even be able to get a 2nd for Foxy, but i kept it modest)


1st Jonathan Stewart RB ORE
2nd Jonathan Goff MLB Vanderbilt
3rd Lavelle Hawkins WR CAL
4th Maurice Murray DT New Mexico ST.
4th Kentwan Balmer DT NC
5th Corey Lynch FS Appalachian ST
5th Bryan Kehl OLB BYU
7th Joe Fields SS Syracuse
7th Robert Gustavis OG ARI ST.

Heres my thoughts. Faneca and Starks cost alot, but they are worth it. Cutler has some O-line players in thier prime that can give him some confidence in the pocket and create for the running game. Basically they are worth it.
Boss Bailey does a couple things in coming to DEN. 1. He can play SAM and is a sound tackler. GOLD, *sighs* go.......away..........please.........just........ go..
Boss also brings another factor in that i think he will rejuvinate his brothers mentality about playing in DEN and create a real leadership core in the lockeroom. I think the Bailey brothers would be a great combo both on and off the field!
I dont see Shenanigans breaking the bank for a RB in this years draft, so McFadden is a pipe dream as much as i would want him.
JStewart is a freaking beast and will absolutely THRIVE in DEN!!! This would turn out to be a huge upgrade and solves the RB issue for years to come.
yeah, yeah i know shanny does not draft RBs high, but with the current nightmare at RB, i think he could say "screw it", and get a monster for the backfield. This would take huge pressure off of Cutler for years to come.
Goff is a tackling machine and is always ready to play. Easy pick to solve the LB issues. D J, its been "real", now back to WILL where you belong! Goff comes in and makes an immediate impact. Hes the leader in Vandy, he will be the leader along with the Baileys here.
Lavelle Hawkins is soo dang clutch i think hes actually worth more to CAL than Deshawn Jackson! Jackson does however get doubled alot, and Lavelle just makes em pay! Great hands, fast and ready to play. I see this guy actually making an impact his rookie season wherever he goes! Which is not common in WRs.
Heres my value picks.
Maurice Murray is another huge space eater that is also a good tackler and run stopper. Along with Balmer makes for good competition and since Jason Shirley will be locked up apparently, Murray makes a great combo with Thomas!
Kentwan Balmer is a good, solid rotational, space eater with great upside. Think Tim Crowder value pick from last year.
Heres my new sleeper!
Corey Lynch. Yep, same last name, even the same number! I posted an article on him previous post, so read it and watch the highlights.
Kid is your classic centerfield, coverage safety. he can do it all and is underrated only because of where he plays college ball.
Lynch will be one of the steals of the draft! Write that down. I would take Bobbie Williams of Bethune- Cookman here as well. he also will be a steal!
Kehl stands to gain some weight, but he has great upside and would make for good depth and a STer.
Joe Fields is solid in all aspects of the game and could easily convert from FS to SS. From what ive seen and heard, Fields is just always around the ball. Hes also a good tackler.
Gustavis is a depth pick for the o-line.
So? what do you think?

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I believe Shirley is headed to the slammer, not the NFL.

[socalorado]

I believe Shirley is headed to the slammer, not the NFL.

Really?!?!?! (jeez, its ruined in less than an hour!LOL!!!!)
What did he do?.............. Or didnt do?
Ok , i,m gonna edit that and fix it. *sighs* back to the drawing board.
He should be pretty hard to catch though, i mean the guys fast as hell!

[Requiem]

I don't even think Starks is starting in Pittsburgh, and Faneca is not the same player he was several years ago. In fact - most Steelers fans seem to think he's lost a step and is one of the "darker" spots on the team this year. Personally, I don't thing OG is a spot to worry for anyways - a big worry, but it all depends on how well Kuper progresses and if Hamilton can even come back. Still, I don't ever see us going after a top OG/OL in free agency considering we have had success with late-round draft picks and UDFA's playing on the line. Not to say we couldn't draft some people higher, but I don't think you'll ever see Denver dish out top dollar for an offensive lineman.

The more I watch Jonathan Stewart, the more I like him. I'm still not on the Selvin Young bandwagon. He's a nice change of pace guy, but he's not a full-load carrier. This is an average senior class of top talent, but there are so many talented juniors that might go early, we could a very, very epic draft.

Including potential juniors, Scouts Inc. has 38 players with first-round grades. Now, not all of them are going to come out, but that's absolutely fantastic considering last year some talking heads stated that they didn't even feel there were 16-20 guys worthy of a first-round choice.

On top of that, they have their top fifty rounding out with Adibi from Virginia Tech whose rated as a 86, so I think this will be a very solid first-day class when it is all said in done, with players with first-round grades spilling into round two, and round two guys into three and so and and so forth.

It'll be a couple of more games before I do another mock draft, but I like the way this class is shaping up to be. It's absolutely epic at LB, which is fortunate for us since our crop is not doing well this year and has some deep positions elsewhere we could make use of.

Right now, I'm hoping Denver can find a way to get another first-day pick. I'd assume if we finished pretty badly, we'd try trading down. I don't think with the needs Denver has, we'll be trading up this year at all. Even if we're at #12/#13 at season's end, trade down a few choices, pick up a third-rounder and perhaps an additional Day 2 selection and go from there.

Foxworth probably has value, but I'm not sure if we get rid of him - but I'm all for getting rid of someone to get extra picks.

I really like having two fouth rounders and two fifth rounders, and who knows what will come with two seventh's. Get back into the third round, pick up an additional first-day selection and we're good to go. This team needs all the help they can get.

[socalorado]

I don't even think Starks is starting in Pittsburgh, and Faneca is not the same player he was several years ago. In fact - most Steelers fans seem to think he's lost a step and is one of the "darker" spots on the team this year. Personally, I don't thing OG is a spot to worry for anyways - a big worry, but it all depends on how well Kuper progresses and if Hamilton can even come back. Still, I don't ever see us going after a top OG/OL in free agency considering we have had success with late-round draft picks and UDFA's playing on the line. Not to say we couldn't draft some people higher, but I don't think you'll ever see Denver dish out top dollar for an offensive lineman.

The more I watch Jonathan Stewart, the more I like him. I'm still not on the Selvin Young bandwagon. He's a nice change of pace guy, but he's not a full-load carrier. This is an average senior class of top talent, but there are so many talented juniors that might go early, we could a very, very epic draft.

Including potential juniors, Scouts Inc. has 38 players with first-round grades. Now, not all of them are going to come out, but that's absolutely fantastic considering last year some talking heads stated that they didn't even feel there were 16-20 guys worthy of a first-round choice.

On top of that, they have their top fifty rounding out with Adibi from Virginia Tech whose rated as a 86, so I think this will be a very solid first-day class when it is all said in done, with players with first-round grades spilling into round two, and round two guys into three and so and and so forth.

It'll be a couple of more games before I do another mock draft, but I like the way this class is shaping up to be. It's absolutely epic at LB, which is fortunate for us since our crop is not doing well this year and has some deep positions elsewhere we could make use of.

Right now, I'm hoping Denver can find a way to get another first-day pick. I'd assume if we finished pretty badly, we'd try trading down. I don't think with the needs Denver has, we'll be trading up this year at all. Even if we're at #12/#13 at season's end, trade down a few choices, pick up a third-rounder and perhaps an additional Day 2 selection and go from there.

Foxworth probably has value, but I'm not sure if we get rid of him - but I'm all for getting rid of someone to get extra picks.

I really like having two fouth rounders and two fifth rounders, and who knows what will come with two seventh's. Get back into the third round, pick up an additional first-day selection and we're good to go. This team needs all the help they can get.

Yeah i thought about all the LBs too. I like Beau Bell and i think he falls simply because he plays at UNLV. With all the hype and crazy combine #s, i think alot of value will spill into the 3rd. However, i still think getting bailey is a good idea. i think he would come cheap, just my 2 cents though.
As for Stewart, that guy is just plain good. There's no real downside i can see. I am not sure if he can really excel at catching out of the backfield, but if thats it, well jeez, i'm all outa excuses! He is starting to remind me of a bigger Emmit Smith. I dont really know why. People try compare him to Bettis, but i dont see it. maybe cause hes standing next to Dixon alot, guy is a rail!
Anyways, i see that guy getting ROY in DEN. basically plug and play with him.

As for Starks and Faneca, yeah they would be rejuvinating themselves a little in DEN. A fresh start i guess. I wouldnt break the bank for em though, but they would be kinda expensive.
Corey Lynch or Bobbie Williams, man this team NEEDS some playmakers that can hit and make INTS! these guys bring it every play!

[mattob14]

This year's draft reminds me a lot of 2006, when there was talent throughout the 2nd day (Marshall, Dumerville, Colston, etc.). The Broncos are in great position to take advantage of that depth, but I agree that they would be well-served to add a couple more first day picks. The more I look at the talent available and the Broncos positions of need, the more convinced I am we'll trade down this year. I think we can grab a top LT prospect, LB, and DT in round 2 and a WR in round 2 or 3. That would address the most pressing needs and then Day 2 can be spent focusing on value and depth. I expect the team to be very active this year.

[socalorado]

This year's draft reminds me a lot of 2006, when there was talent throughout the 2nd day (Marshall, Dumerville, Colston, etc.). The Broncos are in great position to take advantage of that depth, but I agree that they would be well-served to add a couple more first day picks. The more I look at the talent available and the Broncos positions of need, the more convinced I am we'll trade down this year. I think we can grab a top LT prospect, LB, and DT in round 2 and a WR in round 2 or 3. That would address the most pressing needs and then Day 2 can be spent focusing on value and depth. I expect the team to be very active this year.
Active like this?!?!? I would love to get up into the 2nd and there are teams like ATL, STL and MIA that have plenty of high picks.
But dude, DEN would have to really "wheel and deal" to get 2 2nd rounders. I mean a team is at the mercy of another when they go calling for picks!
DEN trades CB Dominique Foxworth/2009 6th to MIA for a 2008 2nd
DEN trades a 2008 4th and a 2008 5th/7th for a 2008 3rd from STL.
DEN trades a 2009 3rd and a 2009 4th a 2008 7th and RB Mike Bell to ATL for a 2008 2nd (ATL has 3 2nd rounders, sheesh! thats alot!)

1st Jonathan Stewart RB ORE
2nd Josh Barrett SS ARI ST. ({MIA}1st pick of the 2nd round?)
2nd Mario Manningham WR MICH
2nd Xavier Abidi OLB VT
3rd Ezra Butler OLB NEV
4th Maurice Murray DT New Mexico ST.
5th Corey Lynch FS Appalachian ST

You guys use this scenario with the trades i made, to make your own. OK?

[mattob14]

Active like this?!?!? I would love to get up into the 2nd and there are teams like ATL, STL and MIA that have plenty of high picks.
But dude, DEN would have to really "wheel and deal" to get 2 2nd rounders. I mean a team is at the mercy of another when they go calling for picks!
DEN trades CB Dominique Foxworth/2009 6th to MIA for a 2008 2nd
DEN trades a 2008 4th and a 2008 5th/7th for a 2008 3rd from STL.
DEN trades a 2009 3rd and a 2009 4th a 2008 7th and RB Mike Bell to ATL for a 2008 2nd (ATL has 3 2nd rounders, sheesh! thats alot!)

1st Jonathan Stewart RB ORE
2nd Josh Barrett SS ARI ST. ({MIA}1st pick of the 2nd round?)
2nd Mario Manningham WR MICH
2nd Xavier Abidi OLB VT
3rd Ezra Butler OLB NEV
4th Maurice Murray DT New Mexico ST.
5th Corey Lynch FS Appalachian ST

You guys use this scenario with the trades i made, to make your own. OK?

I don't mind the mock at all, it fills a lot of needs and there's good value there, but I'm not sure about the trades.

1. Foxworth doesn't carry enough value to warrant the 1st or 2nd pick in the 2nd round and a 2009 6th is virtually worthless. He is worth a late 2nd/early 3rd, imo.
2. Works for me- turn some of those 2nd day picks into a solid 3rd rounder.
3. I don't like trading those 2009 picks, though I'd love to have that ATL 2nd. I just think this would leave us hunting for picks again next year.

My take on how we add selections: sign Turner, pass on RB in round 1 and trade down. Miami has a surplus of picks and may be interested in another 1st rounder. Trade our 1st for Miami's 2 seconds and a 3rd in 2009 to even the value, then move Foxworth for a 2nd/3rd round pick. That makes for 4 selections, all of which should be in the 32-75 range, which is right where I think the value is this year. We can then draft best available among the positions of need (WR, OT, DT, LB, S). If we need to move up a little or pick up another day-1 pick, the 6 2nd day picks are still availble, providing flexibility. I don't think we'll take 10 players, so they could also be used to pick up extra selection in 2009.

As for specific players, it's too early to tell, but I'd love to see them follow a plan similar to this.

[mattob14]

Active like this?!?!? I would love to get up into the 2nd and there are teams like ATL, STL and MIA that have plenty of high picks.
But dude, DEN would have to really "wheel and deal" to get 2 2nd rounders. I mean a team is at the mercy of another when they go calling for picks!
DEN trades CB Dominique Foxworth/2009 6th to MIA for a 2008 2nd
DEN trades a 2008 4th and a 2008 5th/7th for a 2008 3rd from STL.
DEN trades a 2009 3rd and a 2009 4th a 2008 7th and RB Mike Bell to ATL for a 2008 2nd (ATL has 3 2nd rounders, sheesh! thats alot!)

1st Jonathan Stewart RB ORE
2nd Josh Barrett SS ARI ST. ({MIA}1st pick of the 2nd round?)
2nd Mario Manningham WR MICH
2nd Xavier Abidi OLB VT
3rd Ezra Butler OLB NEV
4th Maurice Murray DT New Mexico ST.
5th Corey Lynch FS Appalachian ST

You guys use this scenario with the trades i made, to make your own. OK?

Alright I'll bite. I'm assuming the 2nd for Foxworth would be SD's pick, he just isn't worth Miami's.

1st Ryan Clady, LT, Boise ST- Gotta protect the franchise
2a Dre Moore, DT, Maryland- Strong, active, athletic DT. He'll probably go rd 1 after workouts, though.
2b Jonathan Goff, LB, Vandy- Other LBs could fit hear as well, but DJ's not a long-term solution at MLB, imo.
2c Lavelle Hawkins, WR, Cal- Could be a nice slot receiver and returner. Compliments our current receivers well and provides big-play ability.
3 Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers- Stock has fallen a bit, but he could be a great fit.
4 Jeremy Zuttah, OT, Rutgers- More depth and versatility for the o-line
5 Jordan Dizon, LB, CU- The triangle numbers come up a little short, but he makes plays and would give depth and ST's play in the worst-case scenario

[lex]

Does anyone know anything about Jayson Foster out of Georgia Southern? He's fast.

[lex]

Ive mentioned this guy before:

Brian Witherspoon, DS #38 CB, Stillman [Submit Witherspoon Info]

Name: Brian Witherspoon
College: Stillman Number: 8
Height: 5-10 Weight: 168
Position: CB Pos2: KR
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2008
40 Time: 4.23 40 Low: 4.19 40 High: 4.32
Projected Round: Stock:
Rated number 38 out of 219 CB's 395 / 2328 TOTAL

Its his info from NFL DS.

[ICON]

Frank Okam
34 tackles - 8 TFL for 50 yards - 4.5 sacks - 4 PBUs - 13 QBH - 1 FR - 1 FF

Sedrick Ellis
39 tackles - 9 TFL for 54 yards - 6.5 sacks - 5 PBUs - 1 QBH - 1 FR

Glenn Dorsey
39 tackles - 6.5 TFL for 32 - 4 sacks - 6 PBUs - 3 QBH

Okam has played in one more game, but with Lokey, Miller, and even Alexander he doesn't play nearly as much as Ellis or Dorsey. He's gotten after the QB better than any DT in the country at this point.

ALSO

1. Glenn Dorsey
2. Chris Long
3. Dan Connor
4. Kenny Phillips
5. Calais Campbell

D.J. Hall, Alabama WR
shhhh. Dont tell no body about him. Im hoping we can still him in the 4th round .
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?id=3089427


Craig Steltz S, is damn good in a zone, and a "big hitter” Safty is a need so Steltz could be a good pick up . Steltz = Roy Williams. A superb in the box safety that might struggle with coverage in the NFL.

Jamaal Charles RB , Right now he is leading the big 12 in rushing he has 11 touchdowns and is averageing 5.8 a carry. Just something to think about he has more yards rushing than darren mcfadden same amount of td's and is averaging a half yard more per carry. I know arkansas is not as good as texas but the O-lines for both teams are doing very poorly this year.

Highlight video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIe8WsB1KZ8

Drew Radovich OL 6’5 305 USC
He can hold his own at the point of attack and control lineman to open up holes in the running game. His best asset is his versatility, as he has played inside and out for the Trojans. He could project to the right side or guard in the NFL.

[Requiem]

DJ Hall has been high on my list since last year, somehow I thought he'd fly under the radar - but people now consider him a first-round guy. *prays he falls*

[lex]

What does everyone think of Josh Thompson out of Auburn? He is a strong, short, leverage, hold-your-ground, type.

[sgbfan]

Watching Bryan Kehl play against TCU last night made me want him even more. He is a true stud. Poppinga is a good LB as well, and will make an NFL team. BYU has some good LB's.

[lex]

After seeing Leman a couple of timse, Im signing on to him being someone that would be good to have. If Illinois wins though, I have a feeling his value might increase.

[SouthStndJunkie]

After seeing Leman a couple of timse, Im signing on to him being someone that would be good to have. If Illinois wins though, I have a feeling his value might increase.

'J' Leman is a tacking machine. I would love to see him in Denver.

[SoCalBronco]

SSJ, you're a Michigan fan, give me your thoughts on Shawn Crable as our next Sam?

[Elway777]

I really liked both Laurinatis and Lehman and how they play in todays game. I prefer Laurinatitus because of his Size and ability to blitz and hit the Qb. I watch a clip where Laurinatius blitz and knocked June Williams out of last years game. June Williams did get his reverge by knocking Ohio state out of the championship game.

[lex]

SSJ, you're a Michigan fan, give me your thoughts on Shawn Crable as our next Sam?

Im not SSJ but I went to the Michigan Northwestern game this year and this was the impression I have. The guy is tall (like 6'5") and also very fast (I believe I read he has run a 10.7 100 m). Michigan used him as a pass rusher mostly on this day. He is good at tracking the ball when its going away from him. But when it comes to breaking down and tackling in space, this is where his height works against him and he struggles. I had noticed a few times where a quick Northwestern running back juked him out of his socks and ran by him.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Leman outplayed the vastly over rated Laurinaitis yesterday. Laurinaitis is just like Hawk - has no lateral speed.

Crable is an excellent player, but is is a real a-hole. Bronc's should be learning their lesson about those kind of guys.

[Elway777]

Leman outplayed the vastly over rated Laurinaitis yesterday. Laurinaitis is just like Hawk - has no lateral speed.

Crable is an excellent player, but is is a real a-hole. Bronc's should be learning their lesson about those kind of guys.
I though both Leman and Lauinatis played great. I prefer Laurinaitis because of his coverage ability and his is a great Blitzer. Leman reminds me of a Nick Barnett type player and wouldn't mind drafting him on the second day.

[lex]

Leman outplayed the vastly over rated Laurinaitis yesterday. Laurinaitis is just like Hawk - has no lateral speed.

Crable is an excellent player, but is is a real a-hole. Bronc's should be learning their lesson about those kind of guys.

I agree with this. Practically every player on Ohio State is a blue chip and has been sinced Laurinaitis has been there. I think this makes him look better than he is. I think he has improved this year over last year when he won the Butkus (which was a joke) but he is still overrated or at the very least hard to guage.

[socalorado]

I agree with this. Practically every player on Ohio State is a blue chip and has been sinced Laurinaitis has been there. I think this makes him look better than he is. I think he has improved this year over last year when he won the Butkus (which was a joke) but he is still overrated or at the very least hard to guage.

Hey what do you guys think of USC SS Kevin Ellison?
Ive always really liked him, and he seems to have fully recovered from the knee injury of 2 seasons ago. i have held off on him because i always thought he was tainted goods, but he really has played great this year. He is a big time hitter and has great coverage ability.
The CAL game really got me to thinking he is worthy of 3rd round consideration, and as long as hes healthy, i'd like to see him in DEN.
YOUTUBE has a couple of his hits from the CAL game if you want to see him.
1 from last year as well on "Me"sean Jackson. Crushed him.
Heres one of him on Robert jordan
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zsw4hdlQswI

[Elway777]

Hey what do you guys think of USC SS Kevin Ellison?
Ive always really liked him, and he seems to have fully recovered from the knee injury of 2 seasons ago. i have held off on him because i always thought he was tainted goods, but he really has played great this year. He is a big time hitter and has great coverage ability.
The CAL game really got me to thinking he is worthy of 3rd round consideration, and as long as hes healthy, i'd like to see him in DEN.
YOUTUBE has a couple of his hits from the CAL game if you want to see him.
1 from last year as well on "Me"sean Jackson. Crushed him.
Heres one of him on Robert jordan
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zsw4hdlQswII don't think he comes out next year. I really like Chis Horton out of UCLA.Horton could be the best tackling safety in college football . Horton is not that fast so should fall to 2 day.

[lex]

Hey what do you guys think of USC SS Kevin Ellison?
Ive always really liked him, and he seems to have fully recovered from the knee injury of 2 seasons ago. i have held off on him because i always thought he was tainted goods, but he really has played great this year. He is a big time hitter and has great coverage ability.
The CAL game really got me to thinking he is worthy of 3rd round consideration, and as long as hes healthy, i'd like to see him in DEN.
YOUTUBE has a couple of his hits from the CAL game if you want to see him.
1 from last year as well on "Me"sean Jackson. Crushed him.
Heres one of him on Robert jordan
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zsw4hdlQswI

Meh. The NFL is looking to fine those guys out of the league. What else can he do besides the big hit? Im not extremely familiar with him but I lean more towards sure tacklers.

[Elway777]

If Kendall Langford falls to the Broncos in the 4 round then the Broncos should think about drafting him. The Broncos could use Langford ,Crowder and Moss at Lde and Ekuban and Dumervil on the Right side. I also like drafting Brian Johnson and put him on practice squad. kendall Langford have compared to Mario Williams and Brian Johnson has been Compared to Arron Kampton. I also like Bobby Williams as a small school Prospect.I love small school players that dominate .

[socalorado]

If Kendall Langford falls to the Broncos in the 4 round then the Broncos should think about drafting him. The Broncos could use Langford ,Crowder and Moss at Lde and Ekuban and Dumervil on the Right side. I also like drafting Brian Johnson and put him on practice squad. kendall Langford have compared to Mario Williams and Brian Johnson has been Compared to Arron Kampton. I also like Bobby Williams as a small school Prospect.I love small school players that dominate .

Ive heard that Ellison IS coming out this year!
I like his big style of play, and think he's a huge intimidator on the field.
He also has good coverage ability as well.
The USC secondary has really got healthy and is playing great.
As long as he's healthy, i like em. If he falls apart at the combine or gets injured, then forget it.
As for Horton, yeah, hes a really sound football player, but i dont think he falls too far man. Hes well known amongst the scouts and will get alot of consideration come draft day.
As for Bobbie Williams, hell yeah! Ive had him in mocks on this site! he's an interception machine!
I noticed everyone on the Abdullah bandwagon over at the "other" site, kinda funny IMHO, guy has played in really 1 game against a cruddy KC offense, and suddenly there "crowning" him! I dont really post over there anymore, but i found it humorous. DEN still needs 2 safeties.

[elpasojoe]

I saw Jonathan Stewart play in El Paso last week. Everyone here in west Texas kept making that same remark "he is a bigger Emmitt Smith." I'm all for drafting defense this year, but I don't remember seeing a talent like this. Seeing him take his first cuts into the line, I just told myself he is made for the ZB scheme. What a talent.

[bpc]

I saw Jonathan Stewart play in El Paso last week. Everyone here in west Texas kept making that same remark "he is a bigger Emmitt Smith." I'm all for drafting defense this year, but I don't remember seeing a talent like this. Seeing him take his first cuts into the line, I just told myself he is made for the ZB scheme. What a talent.

I've never questioned the guy's talent... just his durability. If he could stay healthy he'd probably be a top 15 pick.

[Great13]

What about Vernon Gholston? Sure he's an undersized DE in college, but with him weighing around 255-260 and being very athletic, we can draft him at #12 and make him our Sam. He'd be better at shedding blockers and making tackles than any other LB we have on the roster right now. I'm going to pay close attention to him tonight and see how athletic and fluid he looks in the game.

[mattob14]

What about Vernon Gholston? Sure he's an undersized DE in college, but with him weighing around 255-260 and being very athletic, we can draft him at #12 and make him our Sam. He'd be better at shedding blockers and making tackles than any other LB we have on the roster right now. I'm going to pay close attention to him tonight and see how athletic and fluid he looks in the game.

Gholston's a monster, but he's a pure pass rusher. There's no way he plays anything other DE if he's drafted by a 4-3 team. Playing him at Sam would be an absolute waste of his talents.

[bpc]

Man, we would be sitting fat right now on defense if we would have drafted Nelson last year at FS and landed Gholston this year. That guy is physical, he would have been a great fit in Denver.

[ayjackson]

Barring trades, I think Gholston will be a Patriot at pick 7 (assuming he declares and Maualaga doesn't).

[Great13]

Gholston's a monster, but he's a pure pass rusher. There's no way he plays anything other DE if he's drafted by a 4-3 team. Playing him at Sam would be an absolute waste of his talents.

Thanks for the info. I was wondering why I hadn't heard that suggestion before. I'll be watching tonight still, just to see what type of player he is for myself.