Ann Coulter wants USA all Christian. No Jews allowed.

[Dagmar]

Ann Coulter is stirring up controversy again.

The conservative commentator said this week that the nation would be better off if all Americans were Christian and that she wants "Jews to be perfected, as they say."

Appearing on the CNBC show The Big Idea, Coulter was asked to give her version of a better America. She told the show's host, Donny Deutsch, that it would look like New York City during the 2004 Republican National Convention.

Pressed for details, Coulter said, "People were happy. They're Christian. They're tolerant. They defend America ..."

"Christian ... so we should be Christian?" Deutsch interrupted. "It would be better if we were all Christian?"

Coulter answered "Yes" once, and after being asked the same question again by an obviously surprised Deutsch, answered "Yes" a second time.

When Coulter tried to shift the conversation to the diverse congregations in Christian megachurches, the show's host brought the topic back to Coulter's statements about Jews.

Media Matters, the liberal media watchdog group which is publicizing the encounter, provided this transcript:

DEUTSCH: ... we should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians, then, or ...

COULTER: Yeah.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Well, it's a lot easier. It's kind of a fast track.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Yeah. You have to obey.

DEUTSCH: You can't possibly believe that.

COULTER: Yes.

"We just want Jews to be perfected, as they say," Coulter said later in the show. "That is what Christianity is. We believe the Old Testament, but ours is more like Federal Express."

"Candidly, I had her on not to talk about politics but to talk about her brand strategy," Deutsch later told AdWeek . "Whether you like her or not, her strategy is to be extreme and that's a way to make money. But because it's her, it drifted into politics."

"I simply asked her a question, something like, 'If the world was her way, what would it look like?' And she said something to the effect that everybody would be Christians," Deutsch told AdWeek. "I was somewhat baffled and asked if that meant there would be no Buddhists or Jews and I think her words were, 'perfected' Jews [would be OK]."

[spdirty]

she is not actively advocating the destrution or forced conversion of all Jews. A christian is suppose to convert others to christianity, and in her perfect world, everyone would be converted to christianity.

[Dagmar]

she is not actively advocating the destrution or forced conversion of all Jews. A christian is suppose to convert others to christianity, and in her perfect world, everyone would be converted to christianity.

Phew, that makes it ok to think like that then. Had me worried.

Get a grip pal.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Phew, that makes it ok to think like that then. Had me worried.

Get a grip pal.

:~ohyah!: ^5

[Blueflame]

Sounds to me like she's getting very close to advocating nullifying this:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

[Rohirrim]

http://www.morethings.com/images/ann_coulter/evil/shewolf.jpg

The Nazi bitch must be selling something again.

[defenseman]

Sounds to me like she's getting very close to advocating nullifying this:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

there are athiests who want to do away with religion altogether, but it's okay for them to spout similar lingo, and not her? Not that I agree with her what I consider a rather extreme take, but she has the right to free speech endorsing a religion just like the athiests of the country have the right to denograte ALL religion. No difference from where I sit....dman

[orangeatheist]

I think a perfect world would be one without religion. I'd love to see everyone wake up. Me and John, man. Me and John.

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

:peace:

;D

And be glad Coulter says what she says publically. Isn't it better than her letting her feelings fester? Or have her working in the shadows? It's better to see her coming. You can hear her from a mile away. I'd much rather know where she sits and stands up front than to have her move into a position of real power and THEN have all this crap jump out.

[Garcia Bronco]

I saw this this morning and it's not what she meant. Dude asked her how Christens view Jews. She gave an honest answer to the question.

[Crushaholic]

http://www.morethings.com/images/ann_coulter/evil/shewolf.jpg


If only she looked like that...:~ohyah!:

[defenseman]

I saw this this morning and it's not what she meant. Dude asked her Christens view Jews. She gave an honest answer to the question.

If it's more verbage taken out of context, well, I'm not surprised...dman

[Garcia Bronco]

If it's more verbage taken out of context, well, I'm not surprised...dman

It's always taken out of context. It's given and should be assumed at this point in everything we read. I am no fan of Ann, but she can be right on occasion

[Bronco Bob]

It's always taken out of context. It's given and should be assumed at this point in everything we read. I am no fan of Ann, but she can be right on occasion

What would be the correct context? What was left out that would nullify what she said?

That's you people's standard excuse for when someone makes an ass out
of themselves, "Oh, they didn't mean it, they were misquoted." Yet
time after time, when confronted with the question, you never bother
to provide the whole text so the rest of us can evaluate it.
Deflect, deflect, deflect.

[defenseman]

What would be the correct context? What was left out that would nullify what she said?

That's you people's standard excuse for when someone makes an ass out
of themselves, "Oh, they didn't mean it, they were misquoted." Yet
time after time, when confronted with the question, you never bother
to provide the whole text so the rest of us can evaluate it.
Deflect, deflect, deflect.

The "other" side of the story will come out soon enough. We'll see how it plays when one of the cable news networks dissects what really occurs. In any case, I'm not going to assume anything right now..dman

[Garcia Bronco]

What would be the correct context? What was left out that would nullify what she said?

That's you people's standard excuse for when someone makes an ass out
of themselves, "Oh, they didn't mean it, they were misquoted." Yet
time after time, when confronted with the question, you never bother
to provide the whole text so the rest of us can evaluate it.
Deflect, deflect, deflect.

Bottom line Rob, she didn't go on the show and preach this like a Grand Wizard on the Springer show. She answered an honest question on what true christens that follow strict interpretation on the new testiment and old testiment believe. If you haven't seen the whole segment I recommend it to draw your own conclusions.

[Garcia Bronco]

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Here watch it. It's 8 minutes. The whole piece is directed on the topic of making money by being exactly what Olbermann, Coulter, and Limbaugh are: Controversial

[Dagmar]

Are you an idiot?
What POSSIBLE context makes this ok?

DEUTSCH: ... we should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians, then, or ...

COULTER: Yeah.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Well, it's a lot easier. It's kind of a fast track.

DEUTSCH: Really?

COULTER: Yeah. You have to obey.

DEUTSCH: You can't possibly believe that.

COULTER: Yes.

What POSSIBLE context? Hitler youth rally?

[Garcia Bronco]

Are you an idiot?
What POSSIBLE context makes this ok?



What POSSIBLE context? Hitler youth rally?

Even in the text you just quoted the first sentence is this:

"DEUTSCH: ... we should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians, then, or ..."


You don't even see the whole question.

[Rohirrim]

Yeah, like when she called Edwards a "******." That was taken out of context too. Or how about these:

"[Clinton] masturbates in the sinks."---Rivera Live 8/2/99

"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"---Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01

The "backbone of the Democratic Party" is a "typical fat, implacable welfare recipient"---syndicated column 10/29/99

To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."---MSNBC

"Women like Pamela Harriman and Patricia Duff are basically Anna Nicole Smith from the waist down. Let's just call it for what it is. They're whores."---Salon.com 11/16/00

Juan Gonzales is "Cuba's answer to Joey Buttafuoco," a "miscreant," "sperm-donor," and a "poor man's Hugh Hefner."---Rivera Live 5/1/00
(father of Elian Gonzales)

On Princess Diana's death: "Her children knew she's sleeping with all these men. That just seems to me, it's the definition of 'not a good mother.' ... Is everyone just saying here that it's okay to ostentatiously have premarital sex in front of your children?"..."[Diana is] an ordinary and pathetic and confessional - I've never had bulimia! I've never had an affair! I've never had a divorce! So I don't think she's better than I am."---MSNBC 9/12/97

"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote."---Hannity & Colmes, 8/17/99

"I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote."---Politically Incorrect, 2/26/01

[Garcia Bronco]

Yeah, like when she called Edwards a "******." That was taken out of context too. Or how about these:

"[Clinton] masturbates in the sinks."---Rivera Live 8/2/99

"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"---Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01

The "backbone of the Democratic Party" is a "typical fat, implacable welfare recipient"---syndicated column 10/29/99

To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."---MSNBC

"Women like Pamela Harriman and Patricia Duff are basically Anna Nicole Smith from the waist down. Let's just call it for what it is. They're whores."---Salon.com 11/16/00

Juan Gonzales is "Cuba's answer to Joey Buttafuoco," a "miscreant," "sperm-donor," and a "poor man's Hugh Hefner."---Rivera Live 5/1/00
(father of Elian Gonzales)

On Princess Diana's death: "Her children knew she's sleeping with all these men. That just seems to me, it's the definition of 'not a good mother.' ... Is everyone just saying here that it's okay to ostentatiously have premarital sex in front of your children?"..."[Diana is] an ordinary and pathetic and confessional - I've never had bulimia! I've never had an affair! I've never had a divorce! So I don't think she's better than I am."---MSNBC 9/12/97

"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote."---Hannity & Colmes, 8/17/99

"I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote."---Politically Incorrect, 2/26/01

I didn't see those, nor I have I hread them. So yes they are taken out of context from where I sit. Keep in mind though...I don't agree with this woman on anything.

The ridiculous part is the show's host getting offended.

[Bronco Bob]

The ridiculous part is the show's host getting offended.

Agreed. It would be like Al Sharpton inviting David Duke onto his
radio show and then being offended when Duke said something
offensive about AAs.

[REB]

She must have a new book coming out.

[TailgateNut]

Phew, that makes it ok to think like that then. Had me worried.

Get a grip pal.


Haven't you figured it out yet. Christians= the MasterReligion!

reminds me of someone who was just a looney as The CoulterGeist!

[spdirty]

Sounds to me like she's getting very close to advocating nullifying this:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

hmmmmm...didnt know she was a member of Congress...nor did I know that she could nullify anything...last I heard she was someone who wrote books, columns, and gave her opinion to anyone willing to listen.

[Taco John]

I have to say that as a Christian myslef, her answer baffles me. I can't understand how anybody could even approach rationalizing what she said under any context. Her first amendment rights mean that she is free to say stupid things. My first amendment rights mean that it's ok for me to think she's a stupid bitch for what she says.

[Blueflame]

hmmmmm...didnt know she was a member of Congress...nor did I know that she could nullify anything...last I heard she was someone who wrote books, columns, and gave her opinion to anyone willing to listen.

Nice try. My post said nothing of the sort. However, she was "giving an opinion to anyone willing to listen"...over our public airwaves and the opinion given appeared to advocate tossing out the First Amendment. One does not have to be "a member of Congress" or capable of "nullifying anything" to advocate it....

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[Bronco Bob]

Haven't you figured it out yet. Christians= the MasterReligion!

reminds me of someone who was just a looney as The CoulterGeist!

Perhaps the best response came from the Anti-Defamation League, which called Coulter's comments "outrageous, offensive and a throwback to the centuries-old teaching of contempt for Jews and Judaism. The notion that Jews are religiously inferior or imperfect because they do not accept Christian beliefs was the basis for 2,000 years of church-based anti-Semitism. While she is entitled to her beliefs, using mainstream media to espouse the idea that Judaism needs to be replaced with Christianity and that each individual Jew is somehow deficient and needs to be "perfected" is rank Christian supersessionism and has been rejected by the Catholic Church and the vast majority of mainstream Christian denominations. Clearly, Ann Coulter needs a wake-up call about the power of words to injure others and fuel hatred. She needs an education, too, about the roots of anti-Semitism."

That she does. As the league points out, "supersessionism," the theological notion that Christianity "completes" or "perfects" Judaism is, along with the deicide libel, anti-Semitism's major theological underpinning. Indeed, in Central and Western Europe between the world wars, there was a substantial body of purportedly "respectable" intellectual opinion that held "supersessionism" made possible a "reasonable" theological anti-Semitism that was entirely licit, as opposed to the Nazis' and fascists' illicit, "racially based" anti-Semitism. It is fair to say that the rails leading to Auschwitz were greased by precisely the opinion Coulter expressed on American television this week.

[Old Dude]

http://www.morethings.com/images/ann_coulter/evil/shewolf.jpg

The Nazi b**** must be selling something again.

That's an insult to Ilsa. She should sue for defamation.

[Bob]

there are athiests who want to do away with religion altogether, but it's okay for them to spout similar lingo, and not her? Not that I agree with her what I consider a rather extreme take, but she has the right to free speech endorsing a religion just like the athiests of the country have the right to denograte ALL religion. No difference from where I sit....dman

Exactly, she is "militant" perhaps, but she is usually mostly guilty of speaking her mind in a mean way and calling it like she sees it. She is NOT a bridge builder, but her rhetoric is only half as radical of many on this board slanted to the left -- that advocate much more aggressive attacks on anything that smacks of faith -- but hey, I say live and let live (unless you want me dead) and then I guess I have to be labeled "radical" and standup and be counted, and demand that I have the right to exist. What is radical is the 5% of militant atheist’s demand that the 83% of believing Christians in America first shut up, and then disappear.

[Bob]

I think a perfect world would be one without religion. I'd love to see everyone wake up. Me and John, man. Me and John.

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

:peace:

;D

And be glad Coulter says what she says publically. Isn't it better than her letting her feelings fester? Or have her working in the shadows? It's better to see her coming. You can hear her from a mile away. I'd much rather know where she sits and stands up front than to have her move into a position of real power and THEN have all this crap jump out.

Agreed, if someone has views that are disgusting to some folks, it is better that she is allowed to be honest...

However, I do doubt that Ann or anyone that is right of center will get a fair shake from the “Socialist in 08” media. Ann’s recent run-in with the media, where she was "busted" for regurgitating what the Edward's camp had said, and afterward, the media ignored the truth for political expediency was typical. Admittedly -- I am NOT familiar with the context of what Ann said here, but I doubt that the “drive-by” media gives a crap about the Jewish faith, or honesty when conservative blood is in the water.

One danger of the PC cops is that when folks can’t say what they think, anger does fester, and comes out sideways. Not a fan of Coulter in every aspect -- but I respect that she is straight forward, when so many conservatives on TV just give out the demanded lines, and platitudes. When I listen to her I think, “boy, is she mean spirited” and “how does she get away with saying that” and then realize that she can speak freely in America until they pass laws to label her speech a “hate crime,” and round her up, just before they knock on my door, and the boy scout den mother down the street.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Agreed, if someone has views that are disgusting to some folks, it is better that she is allowed to be honest...

However, I do doubt that Ann or anyone that is right of center will get a fair shake from the “Socialist in 08” media. Ann’s recent run-in with the media, where she was "busted" for regurgitating what the Edward's camp had said, and afterward, the media ignored the truth for political expediency was typical. Admittedly -- I am NOT familiar with the context of what Ann said here, but I doubt that the “drive-by” media gives a crap about the Jewish faith, or honesty when conservative blood is in the water.

One danger of the PC cops is that when folks can’t say what they think, anger does fester, and comes out sideways. Not a fan of Coulter in every aspect -- but I respect that she is straight forward, when so many conservatives on TV just give out the demanded lines, and platitudes. When I listen to her I think, “boy, is she mean spirited” and “how does she get away with saying that” and then realize that she can speak freely in America until they pass laws to label her speech a “hate crime,” and round her up, just before they knock on my door, and the boy scout den mother down the street.

http://www.bartcop.com/coulter-eva-braun.jpg

[Bronco Bob]

Agreed, if someone has views that are disgusting to some folks, it is better that she is allowed to be honest...

However, I do doubt that Ann or anyone that is right of center will get a fair shake from the “Socialist in 08” media. Ann’s recent run-in with the media, where she was "busted" for regurgitating what the Edward's camp had said, and afterward, the media ignored the truth for political expediency was typical. Admittedly -- I am NOT familiar with the context of what Ann said here, but I doubt that the “drive-by” media gives a crap about the Jewish faith, or honesty when conservative blood is in the water.

One danger of the PC cops is that when folks can’t say what they think, anger does fester, and comes out sideways. Not a fan of Coulter in every aspect -- but I respect that she is straight forward, when so many conservatives on TV just give out the demanded lines, and platitudes. When I listen to her I think, “boy, is she mean spirited” and “how does she get away with saying that” and then realize that she can speak freely in America until they pass laws to label her speech a “hate crime,” and round her up, just before they knock on my door, and the boy scout den mother down the street.

You respect that she is straight forward. Does that also mean you
respect that Adolph Hitler was straight forward? That David Duke
was straight forward? That the president of Iran is straight forward?

While some of us are cheerfully assuring one another that They Don't Really
Mean It, the Southern Poverty Law Center reports that the number of hate
groups in this country has risen by a whopping 40 percent in just the last
seven years. There is a definite spike, not simply in the hatefulness of some
people, but in the willingness to speak that hatefulness openly and without
shame. What used to be anonymous now comes with a name and address.

I suspect the reason some people believe that kind of ignorance is best
ignored is that they find it difficult to take it seriously, or to accept that
Coulter -- or those who embrace her -- really believes what she says.
After all, this is not 1933, not 1948, not 1966. It is
two-thousand-by-God-oh-seven, post-Seinfeld, post-Gore-Lieberman,
post-Schindler's List. We no longer live in the era when open anti-Semitism
could find wide traction. This is a different time.

And if some of us are laughing that off, not everybody is.

So this is not about bashing conservatives. It is, rather, about challenging
them, and all of us. Within living memory, we have seen Jews in boxcars and
blacks in trees and silence from those who should have been shouting. They
pretended it wasn't happening until it already had.

So, what about Ann Coulter? What about the push-back against diversity,
pluralism and tolerance, that she represents? I keep hearing that we should
just ignore it.

The point is, that's been tried before. It didn't work.

And if that boy scout den mother down the street is teaching hatred and
intolerance against Jews and African-Americans, do we really want her to
be teaching it to our children?

[TheDave]

Starting a fight with the Jewish community when your Livelihood requires media coverage isn't real smart...


at least thats what Mel Gibson told me...

[Rohirrim]

You respect that she is straight forward. Does that also mean you
respect that Adolph Hitler was straight forward? That David Duke
was straight forward? That the president of Iran is straight forward?

While some of us are cheerfully assuring one another that They Don't Really
Mean It, the Southern Poverty Law Center reports that the number of hate
groups in this country has risen by a whopping 40 percent in just the last
seven years. There is a definite spike, not simply in the hatefulness of some
people, but in the willingness to speak that hatefulness openly and without
shame. What used to be anonymous now comes with a name and address.

I suspect the reason some people believe that kind of ignorance is best
ignored is that they find it difficult to take it seriously, or to accept that
Coulter -- or those who embrace her -- really believes what she says.
After all, this is not 1933, not 1948, not 1966. It is
two-thousand-by-God-oh-seven, post-Seinfeld, post-Gore-Lieberman,
post-Schindler's List. We no longer live in the era when open anti-Semitism
could find wide traction. This is a different time.

And if some of us are laughing that off, not everybody is.

So this is not about bashing conservatives. It is, rather, about challenging
them, and all of us. Within living memory, we have seen Jews in boxcars and
blacks in trees and silence from those who should have been shouting. They
pretended it wasn't happening until it already had.

So, what about Ann Coulter? What about the push-back against diversity,
pluralism and tolerance, that she represents? I keep hearing that we should
just ignore it.

The point is, that's been tried before. It didn't work.

And if that boy scout den mother down the street is teaching hatred and
intolerance against Jews and African-Americans, do we really want her to
be teaching it to our children?

Ha! Yeah, Bob. Pol Pot would let you know exactly how he felt. His straight forwardness was admirable too, eh? I still sometimes wonder if Coulter isn't pulling some kind of totally over the top schtick in the Andy Kaufman tradition. Her stuff is so far over the top that sometimes I wonder.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Starting a fight with the Jewish community when your Livelihood requires media coverage isn't real smart...


at least thats what Mel Gibson told me...

That would be the common sense wisdom, but AIPAC also understands that the more red meat right-wing apparatchiks like Ann the Man throw to the ditto monkeys the more support for their guys in Washington.

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