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24champ
10-08-2007, 03:47 AM
By Pat Rooney, Special To The Rocky
October 8, 2007
There will be ample time for the Broncos to address the boundless number of questions surrounding their beleaguered defense during the team's upcoming bye week.

Linebacker Ian Gold, one of the veterans of the unit battered so mercilessly by the San Diego Chargers on Sunday, sought out some of his own before the final whistle finally ended the team's misery at Invesco Field at Mile High.

In brief, between-play conversations with quarterback Philip Rivers, Gold learned why the talented Chargers regained their form against the Broncos after uncharacteristic struggles during their first four games.

Gold might not have learned exactly why the Broncos surrendered nearly 500 yards, but he did learn a thing or two about the psyche of their opponent.

"I talked to Rivers a bit out there and he said, 'You know what? It's just taking us a little while to get used to this new offense, this new system,' " Gold said. "I think things over there are starting to settle. That's what he was telling me.

"And I think, honestly, the same thing is happening with us. We have a new defensive coach (Jim Bates). We've got a few new guys on the staff, and I think it is going to take us a little bit more time to kind of settle in with the new defense and system. Hopefully, we can get this thing settled during the bye week."

It was not just the raw numbers that were ugly - although the 484 yards by the Chargers were alarming - but the Broncos defense also could not generate stops, big hits or turnovers against an offense that came into the game averaging 290.3 yards a game.

Rivers completed 13-of-18 passes, did not suffer a sack and averaged 20.8 yards a completion.

LaDainian Tomlinson had another pedestrian game on the ground, gaining 67 yards on 21 attempts, but he caught three passes for 73 yards.

And reserve running back Michael Turner added insult to injury by gaining 147 yards on 10 carries, including a 74-yard touchdown jaunt that allowed San Diego to average 5.8 yards a carry.

"Ultimately, it falls on everyone in this locker room," safety John Lynch said. "Coming into this year, we had great expectations. We felt like we had a squad that could compete for a championship. To go through a game like this, a stretch like this, a mentality like that can be broken. But we can't let it be."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_5717269,00.html

Popps
10-08-2007, 04:06 AM
**** "adjusting to a new system."

You guys are getting worse every week. Stop making excuses. Especially YOU, Ian Gold.

Paladin
10-08-2007, 04:40 AM
I actually stopped watching today's game in the third quarter right after Martinez dropped the ball. It was obvious that the team was not ready to play an Exhibition Game, let alone play a regular season game against the Little Sisters of the Poor. The D coaches have let the team dodwn in this game, and I think the O needs to be pumped up. There is no fire, no leadershiop, no nothing. They are as emtionally dry as the sahara.

I had said that the first 5 games would be toss ups. After which I thought the team would start to gel on D and the O would begin to click.

After five games, the team is going backwards. I do not see any real progress in development at this time. I suspect we will see a real losing seaon here for the first time in a bazillion years.

Frankly, I have no idea what it will take for this team to recover, although a start would be to take an honest look at the LB positions. I agree with Popps in that regard. But what is wrong with the O?

fontaine
10-08-2007, 04:45 AM
Ian Gold may not know what system he's playing in, but it sure as hell isn't a Bates' defense.

Anyone know the type of front 7 formations we've been running the past two weeks?

Against Indy it was a hybrid 3-4 with Moss or Crowder as the Elephant role.
NOT a Bates' defense.

Against San Diego we had 4 DL with OLBs or Fergy (or at times both) run blitzing and crashing the lanes on first down and 2nd and long to try and contain LT. It worked at times but also was very riskly which resulted in some huge play action gains by LT and their receivers. Again that's not a Bates' defense.

We haven't played straight Bates' D for two weeks now and it's because our front 7 has either no clue or they don't want any part of it.

Nick Ferguson outplayed all our LBers in run support.

Broncos_OTM
10-08-2007, 05:23 AM
Yeah i noticed the 3-4 look. and i dont know if i likedit rushing our end up the middle plays against his strengths i would suppose. Besides the runs by MT i was pretty impressed by us shutting down LT. although with all the attention on him PR picked us apart.

Whats up with Rice now. he claimed he was healthy now hes saying hes not. is that becuase he is frustrated or had a setback?

I know there rookies but i am not impressed by MT, JM or TC. Doom is good but he hasnt shown that he is great yet.

I think denver has more holes then draft picks this upcoming year. If we get a good pick do we trade down and aquire picks?

Should we go after lance briggs dude had 16 unassisted tackles today

Rulon Velvet Jones
10-08-2007, 09:16 AM
That's a crock of ****.

I could learn Chinese in the time it's taking these assholes to pick up this "system". Seriously - this thing must be just amazing when it all comes together. I'm not buying it.

cmhargrove
10-08-2007, 09:22 AM
Yeah i noticed the 3-4 look. and i dont know if i likedit rushing our end up the middle plays against his strengths i would suppose. Besides the runs by MT i was pretty impressed by us shutting down LT. although with all the attention on him PR picked us apart.

Whats up with Rice now. he claimed he was healthy now hes saying hes not. is that becuase he is frustrated or had a setback?

I know there rookies but i am not impressed by MT, JM or TC. Doom is good but he hasnt shown that he is great yet.

I think denver has more holes then draft picks this upcoming year. If we get a good pick do we trade down and aquire picks?

Should we go after lance briggs dude had 16 unassisted tackles today

Dumervil is special, that's why he gets double teamed (chip blocked by the fullback) all the time. If you really watch his tape, he gives it everything and is very close to the QB almost every play. When he tipped that ball yesterday, there were other guys in the area, but he was the only one really running to try to get the tipped ball. Elvis is special, the special ones have to work even harder because they are targeted by more than one blocker. He is the only D-line jersey I would think about buying these days.

cmhargrove
10-08-2007, 09:24 AM
That's a crock of ****.

I could learn Chinese in the time it's taking these a-holes to pick up this "system". Seriously - this thing must be just amazing when it all comes together. I'm not buying it.

I'm with you. Crock of warm, steamy poo. "Adjusting to the system" means we make a bunch of really great plays, then give up a few big ones that hurt us. "Sucking crap" is letting yourself get dominated and giving up 34 offensive points, no INT's, no sacks. That's not a system, it's just suck.

broncsyanks
10-08-2007, 09:28 AM
ADjusting to a new system? LMFAO!!!
PLEASE!~!!!
CRY ME A FREAKIN RIVER. its you who are not adjusting to covering a TE or tackling somone.
its 5 games already and everyone is buring our defense. its that simple.

Rohirrim
10-08-2007, 12:29 PM
If they were going to bring some old fart out of retirement it should have been Chuck Knox. At least he knew how to stop the run. I like the part where they said, "The first part of installing our new system is waiving our best DT."

cutthemdown
10-08-2007, 08:53 PM
This defense stinks because of lack of talent.

RkyMtnThunder
10-08-2007, 08:56 PM
Anyone find having "brief, between-play conversations" with your opponents a little odd?

Stop playing nice guy and make a friggin tackle!!!

Enough with the chit chat and get after it!

F*ckinA

No1BroncoFan
10-08-2007, 09:54 PM
" Gold said. "I think things over there are starting to settle. That's what he was telling me.

"And I think, honestly, the same thing is happening with us. We have a new defensive coach (Jim Bates). We've got a few new guys on the staff, and I think it is going to take us a little bit more time to kind of settle in with the new defense and system.
They get progressively worse every freakin' week and they're getting settled in? Sorry Ian, I ain't drinkin' that kool-aid.

Ben

Inkana7
10-08-2007, 09:58 PM
Just hit someone. Remember high school ball? You didn't know anything about your opponent except that you didn't like them. You wanted to hit someone hard every play. Why are we playing nice and playing soft?

Rock Chalk
10-08-2007, 10:32 PM
That's a crock of ****.

I could learn Chinese in the time it's taking these a-holes to pick up this "system". Seriously - this thing must be just amazing when it all comes together. I'm not buying it.

Funniest thing Ive seen since the "Star Wars" episode of Family Guy.

Los Broncos
10-08-2007, 10:59 PM
The LB's aren't gettng it, at this rate it will take years for them to come together.

NFLBRONCO
10-08-2007, 11:04 PM
Adjusting to new system how many more long runs do you need to see to understand maybe start tackling or covering someone might help.

NFLBRONCO
10-08-2007, 11:07 PM
I looked on the net for Bates scheme for dummies book.

baja
10-08-2007, 11:10 PM
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/61H3Y2FM4NL._AA240_.jpg

NFLBRONCO
10-08-2007, 11:34 PM
TY Baja :)