What If Henry Wins?

[Drek]

I think we all know what happens if he loses his court case, he'll be suspended for a year and the character clauses in his contract will result in us cutting him and seeking return of his full signing bonus.

It might sting this year but we've got a pair of pretty solid looking backups in Young and Hall as well as Mike Bell still on the roster. Its no worse than the countless injuries sustained by Davis, Gary, and Anderson which never slowed down our running attack. From a cap perspective it'd leave us sitting amazingly well going into next season.

The problem I see is if he wins his case against the NFL. For those that don't know he's arguing that the test is inadmissible because his own experts weren't allowed to be present at the time of the test, which supposedly is stipulated within the NFL's drug testing policy. One lower level NYC court has already found in favor of Henry, FYI, and the NFL is now trying to get it jumped to a federal circuit court.

If he should win, which seems like a possibility, he'll not only have this one test dropped, he would now be at a point where he's no longer part of the league's substance abuse policy and therefore subject to much less testing and having a "strike" as it where before seeing any suspension. Great for us keeping him on the field.

On the flip side though the whole organization as well as all the fans would be fully aware that we have a three time drug policy violator who escaped his punishment through nothing but legal means as our highly paid star running back. It hurts the organization's image but at the same time we'd be unable to take action without a significant cap hit.

To me thats the real dilemma. If we wins his case we can't just cut bait, but everyone in the football world will know what really went on. Not to mention it'd probably make our roster a target for many more "random" screenings during Henry's entire tenure here. Most notably the effect it'd have on Marcus Thomas and Jarvis Moss, who both had collegiate issues. Increasing the rate at which they're tested while at the same time having them on the same team with a veteran "leader" who is also a three time offender that got a walk is probably the worst situation we could put them in.

Either way the ruling breaks on Henry's situation it looks to be problematic for us, but him loosing and simply being released might be the simplest and easiest to deal with.

[55CrushEm]

Henry won't win......

"Henry reportedly is claiming the NFL violated its own substance-abuse policy by not allowing his experts to be on hand when the urine sample was tested. The NFL, sources said, is contending the rules are clear players can have their own expert present for testing, but the expert cannot be affiliated with a lab or testing service and Henry's expert was affiliated with a lab. "

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_5714844,00.html

[TheReverend]

If he wins, everyone gets over it when he rushes for +1600 yards.

[bronco militia]

Henry has already lost his appeal.

from Adam Schefter and PFT.com

POSTED 9:19 a.m. EDT; UPDATED 9:41 a.m. EDT, October 5, 2007

IF SUSPENDED, HENRY CAN EARN BACK BONUS MONEY

We've got some more details on the stunning news that Broncos running back Travis Henry has tested positive for marijuana and faces a one-year suspension.

<b>First, Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that the lawsuit Henry filed in New York state court was intended to block the league from testing the "B" sample, which is used to confirm the positive result. ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports that Henry wanted to have his own expert present to monitor the testing of the "B" sample.

Per Schefter, a temporary restraining order was granted at the trial court level, but the order was overturned on appeal. The NFL filed a federal action against Henry based on the notion that any gripes or disputes are superseded by the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

It was, in our view, a last gasp effort by Henry to avoid the inevitable. He'll be suspended for a year if the "B" sample confirms the preliminary positive result.</b>

Second, the 2006 CBA contains a specific procedure for the forfeiture of signing bonus money. Per published reports, Henry received a $1 million signing bonus from the Broncos in March as part of a five-year deal. If he misses a year, he will forfeit $200,000. Also, his contract will be tolled.

But Henry can earn the money back, if he later performs in the year that was tolled. In other words, his deal currently runs through 2011. It will now be pushed until 2012. If he plays for the team in 2012, he'll be entitled to recover the $200,000 that he'll soon forfeit.

In Henry's case, however, it's unlikely that he will still be with the Broncos in 2012, at which time he'd be turning 34.

Henry's forfeiture amount will increase if he isn't promptly reinstated next year at this time. And since reinstatement is by all appearances a decision that falls within the discretion of the powers-that-be on Park Avenue, it probably wasn't too wise for Henry to antagonize the league by filing suit against it. If/when Henry's application for reinstatement gets the Onterrio Smith and/or Ricky Williams treatment, it really shouldn't be all that surprising to anyone.

Meanwhile, several readers have re-raised with us the issue of why the NFL even cares about players smoking marijuana. Sure, it's illegal to do so. But it's not a performance-enhancing drug. If anything, it potentially undermines performance by putting a chronic user in a constant state of mild impairment.

In the end, the motivations don't matter. The rules are collectively bargained between the union and the NFL. The players need to follow the rules, or face the consequences. For Henry, the stakes were incredibly high -- if the "B" sample comes back positive, he only has one person to blame.

[Drek]

Henry won't win......

"Henry reportedly is claiming the NFL violated its own substance-abuse policy by not allowing his experts to be on hand when the urine sample was tested. The NFL, sources said, is contending the rules are clear players can have their own expert present for testing, but the expert cannot be affiliated with a lab or testing service and Henry's expert was affiliated with a lab. "

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_5714844,00.html

That's what the NFL is putting forth. One judge has already found in Henry's favor though. I think he's got a lot stronger case than some here believe.

To be honest I don't think he'll win. The NFL wants it bumped to the federal level where they have a lot of judges basically on the payroll in regards to player v. league disputes. They'll almost definitely find a way to get Henry, but there's a legitimate chance they don't.

It was, in our view, a last gasp effort by Henry to avoid the inevitable. He'll be suspended for a year if the "B" sample confirms the preliminary positive result.
Let me know when Schefter is a practicing attorney. Its a report from a guy who works for the NFL. Of course they're going to push out as much propaganda as possible.

[fontaine]

Travis who?

Our starting RB is Selvin Young backed by Mike Bell.

[Northman]

If he was dumb enough to smoke the **** than he should be suspended. He is no exception.

[KCbroncos]

Just like Dale Carter and Mo Clarett, he will not be missed. Don't care if it's bad for the W/L category, keep this crap off the team.

[Florida_Bronco]

If he wins, everyone gets over it when he rushes for +1600 yards.

Exactly.

[Drek]

If he wins, everyone gets over it when he rushes for +1600 yards.

And then it all comes back around again when he gets popped twice again and he's suspended for 4 games in either '08 or '09.

Think about it, this is a guy who was literally a month of not smoking reefer away from a clean slate. If he'd just laid off the icky sticky from training camp to present he'd have tested clean, be out of the program, and would have a strike to burn before he's facing any lost time. He was too dumb to do that.

If his lawyers somehow finagle him out of this personal fiasco I don't see how he doesn't make the same stupid mistakes in the near future again.

I don't think they will, but the point of this thread is that we should consider the possibilities if he does. With the emergence of Young (and to a lesser degree Hall) it would be beneficial cap wise and in the long term if we get this mess out of the way now while our defense is still coming together. Having the question mark that Henry obviously poses on the team, as well as the drug testing spotlight he'd get focused on the organization, is a much bigger hit than giving Young, Hall, and Bell a trial by fire this year.

[texpat]

He's Still Scum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hogan11]

Travis who?

Our starting RB is Selvin Young backed by Mike Bell.

That's pretty much it.....if the NFL doesn't get Henry, then the team will.

[Drek]

That's pretty much it.....if the NFL doesn't get Henry, then the team will.

No they won't. If they did that we'd be on the hook for his $6M signing bonus at minimum, maybe more.

If he escapes the suspension there isn't anything the Broncos can do without a big cap hit. Thats my whole point. If the NFL doesn't "get Henry" the organization will just look the other way. But you can be damn sure the league's drug testers will be "randomly" stopping by Denver a whole lot more.

[CBF1]

The NFL will get him. The NFL is alot bigger than any single pot head.

[JCMElway]

I honestly don't get the Selvin Young fever here. I guess qwe need some unproven talent to overhype now that Hixon is off the team. Young was not even the starter at Texas, and he was a guy that fumbled a lot. He may end up being quite a back, but if he is forced into the starting RB position now, Denver has a huge downgrade at the position.

Selvin Young > Travis Henry? I have to disagree. If Henry's appeal fails, this season just got a whole lot tougher.

[55CrushEm]

I guess you could say our season is now "up in smoke" ? :puff:

[CBF1]

I guess you could say our season is now "up in smoke" ? :puff:
LOL best quote of the week LOL

[defenseman]

I guess you could say our season is now "up in smoke" ? :puff:

There certianly is a chance of that. We'll see how they do if they are forced to rebound from this. I'm guessing though, the odds in Vegas just got alot bigger for the broncos even winning the division, let alone a playoff contender. He has been a solid RB so far through this season, it'll be a loss for sure...but, under the circumstances, better to see him hit the bricks from where I sit......dman

[That One Guy]

If anyone thinks the Broncos will discipline Henry for this if he wins... just look at how he's been disciplined since Sep 20. That's when he sued back so apparently he knew the results by then at the latest. The team happily ran him all over the field in the Indy game until he got hurt. If he wins then he'll be the star, anyone that thinks otherwise is crazy. That being said, Henry can't stay healthy enough to keep Selvin from starting all year long. Selvin will start at least a game by the time we've made it through 16, I'd put money on that.

[broncosteven]

If he wins I would not activate him. I like Selvin Young anyway and Hall looked good in TC. I think the Henry signing was done in Frustration and was not necessary.

[defenseman]

If anyone thinks the Broncos will discipline Henry for this if he wins... just look at how he's been disciplined since Sep 20. That's when he sued back so apparently he knew the results by then at the latest. The team happily ran him all over the field in the Indy game until he got hurt. If he wins then he'll be the star, anyone that thinks otherwise is crazy. That being said, Henry can't stay healthy enough to keep Selvin from starting all year long. Selvin will start at least a game by the time we've made it through 16, I'd put money on that.

I'd say your bet is a winner. Selvin, most likely, will start the rest of the games very shortly, so, no need to bet anymore..dman

[defenseman]

If he wins I would not activate him. I like Selvin Young anyway and Hall looked good in TC. I think the Henry signing was done in Frustration and was not necessary.

If he wins, rest assured, he'll be activated. For the record, I feel the same way, however, the broncos don't spend our money, it's theirs, they'll get their money out of him........dman

[FloridaResident]

time to draft McFadden ;)

[WolfpackGuy]

Trav, you got too many younguns and babymamas to be messin with that Kush!

[Beantown Bronco]

If he wins, rest assured, he'll be activated. ........dman

sure, but probably not this week. People keep forgetting one key item. He hasn't practiced all week and is still limping around like a mini-freakin' version of Sam Adams. He may not be ready to play anyway regardless of what the court decides.

[defenseman]

sure, but probably not this week. People keep forgetting one key item. He hasn't practiced all week and is still limping around like a mini-freakin' version of Sam Adams. He may not be ready to play anyway regardless of what the court decides.

You could be right, we'll see. I'd de-activate the guy just because I would be freaking totally annoyed with the SOB...dman

[Jason in LA]

I'm pissed at Henry, and hope the Broncos can get bonus money back if he doesn't win. I'm hoping that his actions doesn't hurt the team much. But if he does win, roll his ass out there and run him until the wheels fall off. It's all about winning (within reason).

[TheDave]

When was the lest time a player sued the NFL and won?

Personally i can't think of when or if it has happened. Odds are his career in Denver is done, which is fine by me. Between the 9 bastards and now the idiocy of hitting the bong... this guy is a time bomb. He is going to blow up sooner or later, we just got lucky enough for it to happen in a way that gives us a Michael Vick sized mulligan.

Good riddance...

[Houshyamama]

I'm cool with cutting Henry. I'm ready to start the Selvin Young era and free up extra cap space. Unless we turn the endzone into a giant candybar or have someone chase him with a condom, I don't think we need him.

[Mountain Bronco]

He will not win end of story! Go home people.

[dbroncos31]

I don't understand the Henry-hate around here. Yeah, he was ****ing stupid to test positive when he was only days away from being off the hook. However, if he somehow avoids punishment, we have to start him. He is the NFL's leading rusher; replacing him is not going to be easy. If he is suspended for the year, we can basically kiss our season goodbye.

Selvin Young is not the next TD, although I fervently hope he is. He was not drafted for a reason. Chances are he'll do fine because we tend to run well, but he is nowhere near Travis Henry's talent level.

Also, guys, it's weed. It's not even close to Michael Vick. Henry has done something that much of America has done. I'm a college student; if I had to hazard a guess, I would say that probably 60% of my friends have smoked before. What he did was stupid as **** because of the testing situation, but it's not like he's a terrible human being who we should cut because he smokes. Do you honestly think his teammates will have a problem with him because he smoked? If they did, I would be ****ing shocked. Most jobs in America don't even test for this stuff, and we're going to get all high and mighty because Henry likes to chill out occassionally?

[Beantown Bronco]

I don't understand the Henry-hate around here. Yeah, he was ****ing stupid to test positive when he was only days away from being off the hook. However, if he somehow avoids punishment, we have to start him. He is the NFL's leading rusher; replacing him is not going to be easy. If he is suspended for the year, we can basically kiss our season goodbye.

Selvin Young is not the next TD, although I fervently hope he is. He was not drafted for a reason. Chances are he'll do fine because we tend to run well, but he is nowhere near Travis Henry's talent level.

Also, guys, it's weed. It's not even close to Michael Vick. Henry has done something that much of America has done. I'm a college student; if I had to hazard a guess, I would say that probably 60% of my friends have smoked before. What he did was stupid as **** because of the testing situation, but it's not like he's a terrible human being who we should cut because he smokes. Do you honestly think his teammates will have a problem with him because he smoked? If they did, I would be ****ing shocked. Most jobs in America don't even test for this stuff, and we're going to get all high and mighty because Henry likes to chill out occassionally?

I think most here would agree with me here:

The weed is not the problem.

The problem is the weed, combined with:

his inability to wait for two more weeks before going back to it;
his knocking up anything with a vagina;
his inability to support his kids, yet he'll spend millions on expensive jewelry, Mercedes Benz's, and God knows what else; and
his blatant slap in the face to Shanny and the entire organization who gave him a shot and made it clear to him that he had two strikes against him and they wouldn't tolerate any more mistakes.

[broncofan2438]

[QUOTE=Beantown Bronco;1740643]I think most here would agree with me here:

The weed is not the problem.

The problem is the weed, combined with:

his inability to wait for two more weeks before going back to it;
his knocking up anything with a vagina;
his inability to support his kids, yet he'll spend millions on expensive jewelry, Mercedes Benz's, and God knows what else; and
his blatant slap in the face to Shanny and the entire organization who gave him a shot and made it clear to him that he had two strikes against him and they wouldn't tolerate any more mistakes.[/QUO

Yes, i would agree here, that its not the fact that he smoked weed...yea big deal.....Go down to Boulder and get high just driving through the town........the fact is he embarrassed the team and now the fans for giving him a chance.

[Hulamau]

I don't understand the Henry-hate around here. Yeah, he was ****ing stupid to test positive when he was only days away from being off the hook. However, if he somehow avoids punishment, we have to start him. He is the NFL's leading rusher; replacing him is not going to be easy. If he is suspended for the year, we can basically kiss our season goodbye.

Selvin Young is not the next TD, although I fervently hope he is. He was not drafted for a reason. Chances are he'll do fine because we tend to run well, but he is nowhere near Travis Henry's talent level.

Also, guys, it's weed. It's not even close to Michael Vick. Henry has done something that much of America has done. I'm a college student; if I had to hazard a guess, I would say that probably 60% of my friends have smoked before. What he did was stupid as **** because of the testing situation, but it's not like he's a terrible human being who we should cut because he smokes. Do you honestly think his teammates will have a problem with him because he smoked? If they did, I would be ****ing shocked. Most jobs in America don't even test for this stuff, and we're going to get all high and mighty because Henry likes to chill out occasionally?

Yeah its clear you are a naive college student ... when you get in the real world you'll find it works a little differently... its not about hating Henry ... He is just a first class MORON of BIBLICAL proportions that is all !!! How utterly stupid can a guy be to have made all the statements he made and knowing full well the consequences and still shoots himself and his teammates and fans in the ass!

It isnt a moral value judgment on weed or Henry just a practical fact its AGAINST the rules ... there are well KNOWN penalties that he himself has experienced and he still does it when he is about to be out of the program in a few weeks!! He must have a self sabotaging wish

We knew he was a Neanderthal when he got nine different woman pregnant and is paying his whole income supporting rug rats all over the country... At least that alerted me to pick up Selvin Young in all three fantasy teams in week one :-)

Henry deserves nothing but the scorn of the city and his team mates for undermining all their hard work as well.

[Northman]

I don't understand the Henry-hate around here. Yeah, he was ****ing stupid to test positive when he was only days away from being off the hook. However, if he somehow avoids punishment, we have to start him. He is the NFL's leading rusher; replacing him is not going to be easy. If he is suspended for the year, we can basically kiss our season goodbye.

Our season is already in jeopardy or havent you noticed? Henry being in the lineup wont change a thing. And is it bad to want your players to play up to their contracts and not put themselves in positions to be suspended? Is that really too much to ask as fans? I dont think so.

Selvin Young is not the next TD, although I fervently hope he is. He was not drafted for a reason. Chances are he'll do fine because we tend to run well, but he is nowhere near Travis Henry's talent level.

You dont know that yet and to state so is ignorant. But one fact we do know it that we can plug running backs in and they will fair well.

Also, guys, it's weed. It's not even close to Michael Vick. Henry has done something that much of America has done. I'm a college student; if I had to hazard a guess, I would say that probably 60% of my friends have smoked before. What he did was stupid as **** because of the testing situation, but it's not like he's a terrible human being who we should cut because he smokes. Do you honestly think his teammates will have a problem with him because he smoked? If they did, I would be ****ing shocked. Most jobs in America don't even test for this stuff, and we're going to get all high and mighty because Henry likes to chill out occassionally?


Thats it. Keep making excuses. I guess your fine with him eating up cap space and having to sit out for a year. Yea man, thats ****ing brillant. I dont give a **** if he smokes pot, but when it breaks the rules of the league and means he isnt on the field i have a big ****ing problem with it. You need to get your priorities in order friend.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

If he wins, everyone gets over it when he rushes for +1600 yards.He's history and it doesn't bother me one bit. We don't need players with IQs lower than earthworms on this team.

[BroncoInferno]

I don't understand the Henry-hate around here. Yeah, he was ****ing stupid to test positive when he was only days away from being off the hook. However, if he somehow avoids punishment, we have to start him. He is the NFL's leading rusher; replacing him is not going to be easy. If he is suspended for the year, we can basically kiss our season goodbye.

Selvin Young is not the next TD, although I fervently hope he is. He was not drafted for a reason. Chances are he'll do fine because we tend to run well, but he is nowhere near Travis Henry's talent level.

Also, guys, it's weed. It's not even close to Michael Vick. Henry has done something that much of America has done. I'm a college student; if I had to hazard a guess, I would say that probably 60% of my friends have smoked before. What he did was stupid as **** because of the testing situation, but it's not like he's a terrible human being who we should cut because he smokes. Do you honestly think his teammates will have a problem with him because he smoked? If they did, I would be ****ing shocked. Most jobs in America don't even test for this stuff, and we're going to get all high and mighty because Henry likes to chill out occassionally?

Look, I'm among those who think laws prohibiting recreational drug use is stupid....they do not prevent drug use and only fill up our jails with and tie up our tax payer money on non-violent offenders. I don't partake myself, but it's your body, do what you want with it.

That said, every job carries with it certain stipulations that you may think are stupid but that you must follow to have the job and make a living. At my company, I have to wear a suit everyday. I think the notion that a guy in a suit is somehow more responsible and respectable than a guy in comfortable khakis and a polo shirt is dumb and antiquated, but it's the rules and I knew that when I accepted the job and so I wear a damn suit. Likewsie, Henry knew when he signed his contract that he could not smoke pot (or at least not get caught smoking pot by flunking multiple drug tests). He may have found that a dumb rule and one that has no impact on his job performance (and he may well be right) but he knew the rule when he signed on and now he'll have to pay.

I just can't believe the timing of it. Had he waited just a couple of short weeks, he'd have had a clean slate and two failed test freebies. I mean, it takes a special kind of knucklehead to screw up under those circumstances.

[dbroncos31]

I understand the people saying that he is a dumb****. I agree completely. However, my beef is with the people saying that if he gets off we should get rid of him. Obviously he is not a very good person. Nevertheless, if he is able to get away with this, we better keep playing him if we want to stand a chance at making the playoffs. Then we should trade his out to some other team willing to take him on. But until he is actually suspended by the NFL, he should remain our starting running back.

I am shocked that he a.) didn't wait two weeks, and b.) that he didn't spend some of his money to get by the tests. I am highly disappointed in him, and I'm not a fan at all of his character.

Basically I was responding to a few posts I've seen around here of "Even if he gets off, we should cut him" and the like. I agree that he is an idiot and should not be sympathized with, but if he is somehow able to beat this rap, there is no doubt in my mind that he should be the starter.

[That One Guy]

I am shocked that he a.) didn't wait two weeks, and b.) that he didn't spend some of his money to get by the tests. I am highly disappointed in him, and I'm not a fan at all of his character.

You say you're shocked that he didn't use his money to be above the rules.. then you say you're not a fan of his character. Sounds to me that you're simply not a fan of him being caught.

[RhymesayersDU]

Just like Dale Carter and Mo Clarett, he will not be missed. Don't care if it's bad for the W/L category, keep this crap off the team.

I bet you love Rod Smith though, huh?

[F**kOakland]

What about Henry's side of the story, everyone seems to be of the opinion he is dumb why is that?

Everyone is quick to judge without seeing the evidence...Hell NFL.COM took the story off their site.

In an affidavit filed by Henry on Sept. 18 as part of his court action -- it was obtained by the New York Daily News -- he stated: "There is no valid reason why any unlawful substance would be in my urine. This must be a mistake."

Henry also noted in the affidavit: "If I fail this test, I will be suspended for one year from my employment, and will be obliged to repay all signing bonuses paid to date. ... I will be prejudiced if my expert cannot observe these tests."


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3050883

[Bronx33]

Sooooo the patriots cheat festival even tries to taint rival teams urines tests? wow! bill is good!

[That One Guy]

What about Henry's side of the story, everyone seems to be of the opinion he is dumb why is that?

Everyone is quick to judge without seeing the evidence...Hell NFL.COM took the story off their site.

In an affidavit filed by Henry on Sept. 18 as part of his court action -- it was obtained by the New York Daily News -- he stated: "There is no valid reason why any unlawful substance would be in my urine. This must be a mistake."

Henry also noted in the affidavit: "If I fail this test, I will be suspended for one year from my employment, and will be obliged to repay all signing bonuses paid to date. ... I will be prejudiced if my expert cannot observe these tests."


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3050883

I saw that and it sounds legit, usually they start the "I made a mistake" routine and get it over with. In reality though, how often does a urine sample camp back hot on accident? I hope it's all an accident and that makes sense on why he'd want the second testing postponed and monitored... but man, what are the odds that an ex-pothead's urine sample came back wrong?

If it were someone like Walker that has never even been mentioned in the same sentence as drugs, maybe I'd be more willing to believe it.

[bombquixote]

On the flip side though the whole organization as well as all the fans would be fully aware that we have a three time drug policy violator who escaped his punishment through nothing but legal means as our highly paid star running back.


Um...Ray Lewis?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

What about Henry's side of the story, everyone seems to be of the opinion he is dumb why is that?
As I pointed out in reply to this exact same post in the other thread, the only mistake in all of this is Henry.

[oubronco]

he gets banned for a year and belicheck don't get jack there seems to be something wrong here

[Northman]

I bet you love Rod Smith though, huh?

Are you implying that Rod is a multiple offender? He had what? One incident? Guess you think making one mistake constitutes being a bad seed alltogether eh?

[Wes Mantooth]

This smells too much like Daryl Garnder and Dale Carter. It seems to be a bi-product of the taking a risk every now and then. Every so often some idiot wastes the opportunity and doesn't get it.

He would need to go regardless of talent, ability, etc... He is the NFL's Shawn Kemp.

[F**kOakland]

If it were someone like Walker that has never even been mentioned in the same sentence as drugs, maybe I'd be more willing to believe it.


Walker is the guy who has Henry's back. as well as the support of the team. Maybe that is a vain act of support in good faith but there is more to this than meets the eye. Foolishly enough I know .... I hope this is just spun in the wrong dirrection.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d802fec3b&template=without-video&confirm=true

[Sassy]

Have to admit...this is intriguing!

Walker stuck up for Henry on Friday and cautioned about reading too much into the situation. "Nobody really knows the extent of it," Walker said. "We all trust Travis. Everybody on this team supports Travis. It's funny how a lot of things get blown out of proportion before everybody really knows what happens. He'll be with us the whole year. We're going to try to finish this thing strong."

Walker thought Henry would be vindicated in the end.

"We already know what the situation is," Walker said. "That will get put out at a later day and everybody will understand."

Shanahan wouldn't comment on his level of disappointment with the situation.

"If I did say I was disappointed, it would kind of give you an idea of what I was thinking," Shanahan said. "One (day) I can explain it in more detail. Now is not the time.

"I'm not allowed to do that. Not to go a different direction, I want to tell you the truth, but if I can't tell you the truth about my conversation, why would I get into detail about it?"

[bmanhas]

As much as I want this guy to beat the wrap so we can have him on our active roster, how stupid is this guy?

9 children from 9 different woman and then the child support controversey where he had to borrow money from Tennesse. Then this where he just had to wait 3 little tiny weeks and he'd be rotated out of the program. I just don't get this guy.

[NASurfer]

Have to admit...this is intriguing!

Walker stuck up for Henry on Friday and cautioned about reading too much into the situation. "Nobody really knows the extent of it," Walker said. "We all trust Travis. Everybody on this team supports Travis. It's funny how a lot of things get blown out of proportion before everybody really knows what happens. He'll be with us the whole year. We're going to try to finish this thing strong."

Walker thought Henry would be vindicated in the end.

"We already know what the situation is," Walker said. "That will get put out at a later day and everybody will understand."

Shanahan wouldn't comment on his level of disappointment with the situation.

"If I did say I was disappointed, it would kind of give you an idea of what I was thinking," Shanahan said. "One (day) I can explain it in more detail. Now is not the time.

"I'm not allowed to do that. Not to go a different direction, I want to tell you the truth, but if I can't tell you the truth about my conversation, why would I get into detail about it?"
Thats interesting. Where is it from?

[BroncoInferno]

Have to admit...this is intriguing!

Walker stuck up for Henry on Friday and cautioned about reading too much into the situation. "Nobody really knows the extent of it," Walker said. "We all trust Travis. Everybody on this team supports Travis. It's funny how a lot of things get blown out of proportion before everybody really knows what happens. He'll be with us the whole year. We're going to try to finish this thing strong."

Walker thought Henry would be vindicated in the end.

"We already know what the situation is," Walker said. "That will get put out at a later day and everybody will understand."

Shanahan wouldn't comment on his level of disappointment with the situation.

"If I did say I was disappointed, it would kind of give you an idea of what I was thinking," Shanahan said. "One (day) I can explain it in more detail. Now is not the time.

"I'm not allowed to do that. Not to go a different direction, I want to tell you the truth, but if I can't tell you the truth about my conversation, why would I get into detail about it?"

Hmm, that is a bit interesting.

Then again, Henry may have just told them he ate his mama's famous poppy seed chicken.

[F**kOakland]

Thats interesting. Where is it from?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d802fec3b&template=without-video&confirm=true

[Mile High 81]

Thats interesting. Where is it from?


i think it is from nfl.com

[theAPAOps5]

Hmm, that is a bit interesting.

Then again, Henry may have just told them he ate his mama's famous poppy seed chicken.

Poppy seeds would pop you for Heroin not Pot. I guess its only fair to wait out the results but he obviously put himself in some sort of situation to pop a drug test.

[Meck77]

I honestly don't get the Selvin Young fever here. I guess qwe need some unproven talent to overhype now that Hixon is off the team. Young was not even the starter at Texas, and he was a guy that fumbled a lot. He may end up being quite a back, but if he is forced into the starting RB position now, Denver has a huge downgrade at the position.

Selvin Young > Travis Henry? I have to disagree. If Henry's appeal fails, this season just got a whole lot tougher.

I agree. Selvin has 15 carriers for 138 yards and somehow he's been elevated to Walter Payton status or something.

Plenty of people thought inserting Cutler in for Plummer would get us in the playoffs also. No need to beat that dead horse again.

Ever heard saying "You can beat an old fool but you can't beat experience?".