Can some of you locals verify (or even better, debunk) this? Troubling stuff

[SoCalBronco]

I saw this on the team site, some poster talking about what reporter Vic Lombardi said after the game re: quotes/summaries of quotes from players....troubling if true.........this stuff really doesnt need to be said to reporters even if its true (especially Cutler's)...

Khan...Apaops, 24...anybody local, did you guys hear this?



Today, 09:12 PM
mojo0730

Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,312


Champ Bailey calls out Special Teams; Cutler questioning play calling?
According to Vic Lombardi, after the game, Champ Bailey called out the Special Teams, and said (to the effect) that they're the worst in the NFL.

Also, when Cutler was asked about why the Broncos can't score TDs in the Red Zone, his response was 'You're asking the wrong guy. I just run what they call'.


http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=102850

[Popps]

Well, Champ's right. The guy's been the good soldier for years. Who can blame him for calling out these pu$$ies he's lined up next to.

As for Cutler, he should shut up... even though he might be right, too.

Comically, no one is calling out the Red Sea defense.

[TheChamp24]

Some of the play calls are shiity down there, and the special teams is a freakin joke.
Look at how other teams do it down there. It was clockwork for the Colts. Easy as pie. With us? We try to confuse the defense, and then run it right at them. No really trying to get a mismatch out there, like Marshall on someone, or Graham on someone. Heck, where the HELL is Graham down there?

[SoCalBronco]

Well, Champ's right. The guy's been the good soldier for years. Who can blame him for calling out these pu$$ies he's lined up next to.

As for Cutler, he should shut up... even though he might be right, too.

Comically, no one is calling out the Red Sea defense.

All that may very well be true, Popps, but we really do not need a media circus/explosive situation right now...everyone needs to keep this stuff in house or even better completely to themselves. Nobody needs to be alienating anyone else and creating divisions, we have enough on our plate as it is.

[broncocalijohn]

Champ has to play sometimes on kickoffs. How bad is it if you need your star defensive player doing ST down the field than 30 seconds later be ready for the first down. I would like to see Cutler's stats inside the red zone. That would tell us if it is him also or more than what Shanny calls.

[Popps]

I guess I just don't care.

It's not like this team can "bottom out."

We're already there, folks. Outside of losing Cutler and Bailey to injury, we're there.

Any bickering will work itself out. Shanahan isn't going to bench Bailey and Bailey will likely back off his statements... or maybe not. He's a captain and he's ON STs. Isn't he allowed to criticize his unit?

[DB_champ24]

Honestly I am really glad Bailey called out the Special Teams..He should call out the defense too..He is one of the few guys out there working his hardest and he has to come and make the tackles in the run game instead fo the LBs and DTs..I dont know about Cutler talking about the play calling though..even though I dont agree with some of the plays being called but im not a coach so I dont know as well as those guys..We need a spark like this..maybe someone will wake up and see the garbage that has been played on D

[BigPlayShay]

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=349&videoID=2071&type=broncosTV&year=&month=

Cutler was asked if when they get in the red zone does he think that the play calling is more careful because he is a younger QB, he responded with "You are asking the wrong person, I don't know, I just run what is called".

Can't find the Champ video, but in essence he said that he should not be making tackles on Special Teams (meaning his position on kick off coverage is the last line of defense) and he has had to make a tackle at least once in all 4 games. You can't give Manning that kind of field position.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Chump Bailey should call out himself. Three touchdown passes from Manning? Ty Law owns Manning, why can't Bailey? You'd think Chump could get at least one pick. Best corner in football my ass.

[24champ]

I won't know anything till tommorow specifically until tommorow. Plus I didn't watch Vic Lombardi and CBS, I watched the NBC broadcast of the postgame show. From my perspective though, I am surprised. I've never seen Bailey specifically call anyone or the team out before. However he was asked by a reporter if Champ thought that Indy was the best offense in the league and to my surprise Champ was pissed and said (Paraphrasing)" I don't really care about where Indy is at in this league, we had a chance to win today and we didn't do it. Im not really into stats, we need to improve this week and be ready for San Diego. We need to start winning games"

That being said, Bailey is obviously correct that the ST unit is pretty crappy. Can't really comment on Cutler.

[24champ]

Chump Bailey should call out himself. Three touchdown passes from Manning? Ty Law owns Manning, why can't Bailey? You'd think Chump could get at least one pick. Best corner in football my ass.

This is the first time I have heard of Ty Law in about a year or so. Whatever happened to that guy? He's still playing? Wow.

[bpc]

I don't blame Cutler one bit. Our playcalling thus far in the season, especially in the red zone has been robotic and predictable. 4th and 1 and a half last week and we run a sneak with our 4th or 5th best ball carrier?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

This is the first time I have heard of Ty Law in about a year or so. Whatever happened to that guy? He's still playing? Wow.

Law had a pick today. #5 pass defense. And Philip Rivers was scared to throw to LT at the goal line because Law was out there. How you like them apples?

[DukeWoody]

Klick on the video picture with Shanny in it under the full size video box..

There isn't anything said that warrents any sort of friction or panic, sheesh relaxe boys...

Oh i see man boobs made it over here in a hury to make sure and stir that friction pot...beat it man boobs and go eat a box of twinkies or something...


http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?season=2007&week=REG4&game_id=29253

[SoCalBronco]

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=349&videoID=2071&type=broncosTV&year=&month=

Cutler was asked if when they get in the red zone does he think that the play calling is more careful because he is a younger QB, he responded with "You are asking the wrong person, I don't know, I just run what is called".

Can't find the Champ video, but in essence he said that he should not be .

Ok..my bad, thats doesnt look bad at all, because they were specifically asking him if he felt the staff was being too cautious...obviously he has no way of knowing what the staff thinks so he deferred to them.....that is fine, I thought (just going by the answer alone and what the poster on the team board said) he was pointing the finger at the staff for the offensive troubles...not what the staff thought.

[Ugly Duck]

You'd think Chump could get at least one pick. Best corner in football my ass.

Hey now don't rub it in Bob! The Broncos barely squeezed out a last second, one point miracle win over the lowly Bills, doormats of the league. Then another OT miracle missed FG against Oakland. Then smacked by the Jags & blown off the field by the Colts. They are barely staying out of the AFCW cellar by the skin of their teeth.... don't be making fun of them in desperate times....

[Ratboy]

Chump Bailey should call out himself. Three touchdown passes from Manning? Ty Law owns Manning, why can't Bailey? You'd think Chump could get at least one pick. Best corner in football my ass.

Ha! You're comical, dude.

[DB_champ24]

Laws pick was nothing special...and if ur talking about Rivers not throwing the ball to LT at goaline at the end of the game then Rivers was being a retard for not making that throw

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I can't believe the Rat greased his way into that win over Oakland. So cheap. I'd like to see the Raiders at 3-1 instead. Proud franchise with lots of tradition. We own you guyz anyway.

[24champ]

Law had a pick today. #5 pass defense. And Philip Rivers was scared to throw to LT at the goal line because Law was out there. How you like them apples?

Honestly I thought he retired, but hey a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while eh?

[phibacka31]

Seriously BOOB leave and never return I hate every word that comes out of your mouth. I'm pretty positive now that you have absolutely NO life:thumbsup:

[Ratboy]

Law had a pick today. #5 pass defense. And Philip Rivers was scared to throw to LT at the goal line because Law was out there. How you like them apples?

Yet, Look whose number 1.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Yet, Look whose number 1.

Why would anyone try to pass on Denver? Even Herm Edwards could gameplan against your defense.

[DukeWoody]

All you need to know is provided in the link..


http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?season...&game_id=29253 (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?season=2007&week=REG4&game_id=29253)

[Ratboy]

Didn't Bob make a thread stating there was only 2 teams that had a chance to win the division? I believe he said Denver Broncos and Kansas City Chiefs. NOW.. He is saying we're fruadulent.

[24champ]

Didn't Bob make a thread stating there was only 2 teams that had a chance to win the division? I believe he said Denver Broncos and Kansas City Chiefs. NOW.. He is saying we're fruadulent.

Is that what he is saying? I couldn't understand him with all those jelly donuts crammed in his mouth.

[Turf Shaman]

It's amazing how everything these people say gets scrutinized and over analyzed to the point of delirium. Cutler is asked "Do you think the play calling is too conservative in the red zone?" He answers that he's not the one to ask because he just runs the plays. And that's questioning the play calling? Huh? Is there a shred of logic in that? Hell, with that question, he was being led into questioning the play calling. Either he says "no" which would likely be a lie, or he says "yes" which would be questioning the play calling, or he finds someway to not to answer the question which is exactly what he did. If someone wants to rag of Cutler for how he answered that question, tell me how he can answer that question and win?

[serious hops]

Honestly I am really glad Bailey called out the Special Teams..He should call out the defense too..He is one of the few guys out there working his hardest and he has to come and make the tackles in the run game instead fo the LBs and DTs..We need a spark like this..maybe someone will wake up and see the garbage that has been played on D

Well, Champ's right. The guy's been the good soldier for years. Who can blame him for calling out these pu$$ies he's lined up next to.


Agreed completely. Not only is Champ an amazing cover corner, he's also a more reliable tackler than most of, if not ALL of our freakin' linebacker corps. In the past he's begged Shanahan to let him play on offense, and now he has to be the best player on our kick coverage units as well. What else are we gonna ask him to do, paint the lines on the field before the game? IMO an All-Pro and DMVP runner-up who's willing to play on ST has more than earned the right to say what's on his mind. Besides, we don't know what he may have already said in the locker room. Maybe he feels like he's not getting through, and that a public call-out will be more effective. He can't make every play on every series all year long on two of our three units-- dude needs some HELP out there, and I think it's hard to blame him for saying so. Obviously whatever else is being done has failed to light a fire under the "special" teams' collective asses. Right now they suck in almost every phase of the game, and it's putting an awful lot of pressure on the rest of the team, just like it did all of last year.

[DukeWoody]

You know, i venture over to craplanet every now and again, mainly because i like to see what's going on behind enemy lines...Needless to say i just lurk...

My point is i've seen a few BB members there that are Bronco fans and never do they run around trying to stir up shet seeking attention or acting like 9th grade retard imbeciles disrespecting the Forum in ANY WAY....Meanwhile Man boobs is here always being a retard and seeking attention any way he can get it...while disrespecting posters and the BB community by calling names, stirring up shet always doing something negative to rile the posters...

The kicker part is if there was a Boob over at CP, he would be band in a matter of a day...Here , no matter how much posters voice their displeasure with the man boobs antics, they always seem to fall on deaf ears...I guess i'm just P.Oed that this continues with no near end in sight and am left sratching my head wondering why??

[bpc]

I got banned for talking about how amazing CP played against the Chiefs here about 3 or 4 years ago. I just lurk now but i'm still banned.

[Northman]

I guess I just don't care.

It's not like this team can "bottom out."

We're already there, folks. Outside of losing Cutler and Bailey to injury, we're there.

Any bickering will work itself out. Shanahan isn't going to bench Bailey and Bailey will likely back off his statements... or maybe not. He's a captain and he's ON STs. Isn't he allowed to criticize his unit?


Hate to agree with you but this team may not win another game. We cant stop anyone at this point and we certainly cant outscore them. K.C may have a lethargic offense but their defense keeps them in games. Oakland just hung 35 on a decent Miami defense and sooner or later SD will start winning games. Especially against a team like the Broncos who cant force any pressure on an opposing offense.

[Popps]

Hate to agree with you but this team may not win another game. We cant stop anyone at this point and we certainly cant outscore them. K.C may have a lethargic offense but their defense keeps them in games. Oakland just hung 35 on a decent Miami defense and sooner or later SD will start winning games. Especially against a team like the Broncos who cant force any pressure on an opposing offense.

Like I said in another post... if you love this team, you absolutely have to hate this crop of players.

Yes, I'm talking about football-hate. I wish Ian Gold and his family all the best in life, but I wish to the sweet lord I never had to look at him in a Bronco uniform again.

A bunch of gutless wonders. Where was "Hot 97" today? Remember a$$-munch running his mouth about how fantastic he was after we signed him?
Yes, he came close to Manning on one play. Fantastic.

[Blueflame]

Hate to agree with you but this team may not win another game. We cant stop anyone at this point and we certainly cant outscore them. K.C may have a lethargic offense but their defense keeps them in games. Oakland just hung 35 on a decent Miami defense and sooner or later SD will start winning games. Especially against a team like the Broncos who cant force any pressure on an opposing offense.

Not sure I'd categorize 0-4 Miami's defense as "decent"... :P

[Northman]

Like I said in another post... if you love this team, you absolutely have to hate this crop of players.

Yes, I'm talking about football-hate. I wish Ian Gold and his family all the best in life, but I wish to the sweet lord I never had to look at him in a Bronco uniform again.

A bunch of gutless wonders. Where was "Hot 97" today? Remember a$$-munch running his mouth about how fantastic he was after we signed him?
Yes, he came close to Manning on one play. Fantastic.


Yep. At least Elvis had a nice hit on Peyton but it was of little consequence as he hung 21 more points on us. We may have to start opening up the checkbook and get better talent in here both on the Dline and Linebacking core. I dont know how our cap is and how much room is on there but we got to quit with this " quick fix " program we are using.

[Northman]

Not sure I'd categorize 0-4 Miami's defense as "decent"... :P

Well, i think if they had a better offense they probably would be a little better. TrInt was his usual self today which didnt help their cause any.

[theAPAOps5]

SoCal, Cutler was just stating the obvious. They asked him about the plays in the red zone he answered. I would like him to take some blame but its nothing to run around and panic about. People are just trying to make stories with the 2 game slump.

Go read Woody Paiges story, he basically slams Cutler based on that quote and expresses his undying love for Manning. Pretty sick man love going on:

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_7049010

[Rock Chalk]

Remember when I said two weeks ago the playcalling sucks? Remember when you guys bashed me and said I was an idiot that didnt know what he was talking about?

**** you.

[defenseman]

Well, Champ's right. The guy's been the good soldier for years. Who can blame him for calling out these pu$$ies he's lined up next to.

As for Cutler, he should shut up... even though he might be right, too.

Comically, no one is calling out the Red Sea defense.

Hilarious! LOL Good one...dman

*Bottom line is the D, overall, is playing like a bunch a wussies who forgot the definition of the word "tackle".

[Garcia Bronco]

Cutler didn't call out the play calling. All he said when asked was he runs the plays that are called.

[Garcia Bronco]

And Bailey called out both ST and Defense. That's it. That's what happened.

[Garcia Bronco]

Honestly I am really glad Bailey called out the Special Teams..He should call out the defense too..He is one of the few guys out there working his hardest and he has to come and make the tackles in the run game instead fo the LBs and DTs..I dont know about Cutler talking about the play calling though..even though I dont agree with some of the plays being called but im not a coach so I dont know as well as those guys..We need a spark like this..maybe someone will wake up and see the garbage that has been played on D

He called out the defense also

[HEAV]

When asked about the Broncos' continued misfortunes near their opponents' goal line, Cutler responded: "You're asking the wrong person. I run what's called."

Great... just great.


Also Woody is now jump'n on the kid.
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_7049010


Fix your ship Shanny. It's not 1997, it's 2007 you have to step in and get this kid back on track.

[bronco militia]

Great... just great.


Also Woody is now jump'n on the kid.
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_7049010


Fix your ship Shanny. It's not 1997, it's 2007 you have to step in and get this kid back on track.

woody is being a piece of ****...did Peyton call his own plays his 1st or 2nd year? I didn't think so

[Smiling Assassin27]

Well, Champ's right. The guy's been the good soldier for years. Who can blame him for calling out these pu$$ies he's lined up next to.

As for Cutler, he should shut up... even though he might be right, too.

Comically, no one is calling out the Red Sea defense.


Champ's become horrifyingly average in this defense because he's trying to make up for the lack of run defense by spying. Yesterday, it caught up to him when clark ran right by him. He thinks he has to do it all himself, and really he has good reason to think this since the front 7 is soft, timid, and inept. The safeties are lame in run support and so Champ is trying to put his finger in the dam while the city's being washed away. Special teams look like special olympics--never have i seen such pi$$ poor coverage on kickoffs.

As for Cutler, he's right. Red zone playcalling is a joke and Shanny has become Dan Reeves down there. Shanny's pride is getting the best of him and he thinks he can man up and run in any situation against any team. He's wrong. Shanny's accountable for this lame arse offense in the red zone--just like with Plummer, we can move it between the 20's and then we stall. If we get 21 first half points, the game becomes dramatically different.

[eddie mac]

Bailey should've punched Gold in the mouth and said "hope you choke on that $5m you didn't earn this year ya bum"

[Maximus]

Why would anyone try to pass on Denver? Even Herm Edwards could gameplan against your defense.
Damn Bob... you're on a roll dude! That makes perfect sense! I know kiffin learns from his mistakes... as evidence from the time out and running the ball for 299 yards... if the donkeys continue to be swiss cheese on defense... we're gonna pile up 400 on them next time... Larry Johnson could have a Jamal Lewis against cleveland type of day!

[bronco militia]

Damn Bob... you're on a roll dude! That makes perfect sense! I know kiffin learns from his mistakes... as evidence from the time out and running the ball for 299 yards... if the donkeys continue to be swiss cheese on defense... we're gonna pile up 400 on them next time... Larry Johnson could have a Jamal Lewis against cleveland type of day!


nahh...LT will get the record this week

[epicSocialism4tw]

Same old problems, different QB.

Whaddya know.

[broncosteven]

I can't believe the Rat greased his way into that win over Oakland. So cheap. I'd like to see the Raiders at 3-1 instead. Proud franchise with lots of tradition. We own you guyz anyway.

You have a short Memory, Kiffen Jr. used the same trick to get Butt-pirates their 1st win this year.

I am still not worried about either KFC or Butt-Pirates. Herm will squeak to his usual mid pack finsh and be there next year. Oak is too young and started the QB carosel.

Suddenly SD and Pitt look mortal and possible wins for us.

KFC is one Kelly Holcum pass away from a 1-3 record just like we are a few plays from 0-4. At least we have upside.

[Popps]

Same old problems, different QB.

Whaddya know.


Our offense controlled the ball from the get-go. Over 100 yards rushing in the first half, no turnovers. We did EXACTLY what you have to do to beat Manning.

The result? Same as the last 4 years. The D folded like a cheap suit.

No surprise to anyone with a base-knowledge of the game. Anyone who thought a QB swap was going to suddenly make our defense stop the run is getting their continuing lesson in football 101.

[BroncoSoja]

All that may very well be true, Popps, but we really do not need a media circus/explosive situation right now...everyone needs to keep this stuff in house or even better completely to themselves. Nobody needs to be alienating anyone else and creating divisions, we have enough on our plate as it is.

Yes the hell we do, we need as much of a spotlight put on these coachs and players and you could possibly make. Make them feel the fire because we need some changes made here.. These Red Zone problems have been facing us for years now as have the Defense and Special teams problems.

Changes need to be made starting with hiring a outside GM to put Shanny in check so he can't just tell his little muppet who and what he is going to draft or sign.

Hell perhaps we need to make a change at the head coaching posistion as well.... Since I will still remind people that since ELWAY LEFT Shanny has one like what 1 playoff game?.....Maybe we don't have to go so far as to fire Shanny who is a pretty decent coach (not great but decent) but we sure as hell need to hire a outside Offensive Coordinator and let him call/script/whatever the plays from now on. Shannys poor play calling or maybe his muppets playcalling is horrible.

[Cito Pelon]

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=349&videoID=2071&type=broncosTV&year=&month=

Cutler was asked if when they get in the red zone does he think that the play calling is more careful because he is a younger QB, he responded with "You are asking the wrong person, I don't know, I just run what is called".
Can't find the Champ video, but in essence he said that he should not be making tackles on Special Teams (meaning his position on kick off coverage is the last line of defense) and he has had to make a tackle at least once in all 4 games. You can't give Manning that kind of field position.

Sure, you have to know what question was asked. That cretin PeckerWood Paige blew that quote of Cutler's out of proportion because he didn't cite the context in which it was stated. Good job, Shay.

[55CrushEm]

Not sure I'd categorize 0-4 Miami's defense as "decent"... :P

Well, to be fair.....a team's record is not necessarily an indication of how good or bad ONE particular unit is....

Hell, Oakland was 2-14 last year...and they had a damn good defense.

[Bronco Yoda]

IPosts: 1,312

Champ Bailey calls out Special Teams; Cutler questioning play calling?
According to Vic Lombardi, after the game, Champ Bailey called out the Special Teams, and said (to the effect) that they're the worst in the NFL.

Also, when Cutler was asked about why the Broncos can't score TDs in the Red Zone, his response was 'You're asking the wrong guy. I just run what they call'.


http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=102850

Champs correct. He isn't saying anything we all havent been saying here since preseason. Or last year... or the year before last...

I have no problem with what Cutler said either.

[theAPAOps5]

Sure, you have to know what question was asked. That cretin PeckerWood Paige blew that quote of Cutler's out of proportion because he didn't cite the context in which it was stated. Good job, Shay.

Thank you for pointing that out again. Cutler answered the question as it was asked. There is no drama even though I see the Drama Llama posted his usual remarks.

I agree with Popps this team is seriously flawed on defense and its maiming the offense. The offense is maiming itself by resorting to FG's. This could be a very long year on the mane.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Thank you for pointing that out again. Cutler answered the question as it was asked. There is no drama even though I see the Drama Llama posted his usual remarks.

I agree with Popps this team is seriously flawed on defense and its maiming the offense. The offense is maiming itself by resorting to FG's. This could be a very long year on the mane.


Popps, myself, and a few others have held the same position on this board regarding the downfall of this team for a long time.

People like you are just beginning to see what has been evident for years.

[Garcia Bronco]

Why do people assume that Mike Shanahan doesn't run a team in his front office? Who actually thinks he makes every decision with no input from his staff? Especially you BroncoSoja. Muppets? That's narrow view on how an organization works.

[theAPAOps5]

Popps, myself, and a few others have held the same position on this board regarding the downfall of this team for a long time.

People like you are just beginning to see what has been evident for years.

Ahh drama llama I have always said this teams weakness is the DL. So its not people like me. But then again explaining myself to a dude who has no balls to show his face after making all sorts of claims in the NBA thread is not even worth it. Run along and spew your drama. I respect Popps.

[epicSocialism4tw]

[QUOTE=ApaOps5;1735656]Ahh drama llama I have always said this teams weakness is the DL. So its not people like me. QUOTE]

Sure, kid.

You pride yourself in conforming to whatever everyone else thinks.

[theAPAOps5]

Yeah whatever makes you feel good Drama. You pride yourself at screaming for attention thus your name. You are on the level of Bob in your look at me posts. You wonder why people make fun of you.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Yeah whatever makes you feel good Drama. You pride yourself at screaming for attention thus your name. You are on the level of Bob in your look at me posts. You wonder why people make fun of you.

LOL

Goodness.

Get over yourself, kid.

Concern yourself with your own business.

I dont think Ive seen a less dignified message board dingleberry. Maybe you can ask somebody what that means and get back to me. Mmmmkay?

[theAPAOps5]

You called me out. Whats the matter kid you can't handle when someone challenges you? Pretty typical stuff from you.

[epicSocialism4tw]

You called me out. Whats the matter kid you can't handle when someone challenges you? Pretty typical stuff from you.

Uh oh!

I'm being called out by ApaOps5 (whoever the heck that is)!

http://www.communicatrix.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/ohno.jpg

[theAPAOps5]

Someone respected around here a lot more than you.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Someone respected around here a lot more than you.

Buzz off, leech.

[theAPAOps5]

Whats the matter? Starting your run away routine are we?

[epicSocialism4tw]

Whats the matter? Starting your run away routine are we?

Nope.

I dont think that you have anything worthwhile to say. Not in criticism of me or otherwise.

You are a sheep.

Go find some grass to graze.

[theAPAOps5]

Ok Drama, I can see that is all you've got. It was fun though. I am sure I will see you later with your look at me posts.

[Broncos4Life]

Bring back Kubes as soon as hes available. How longs his contract with the Texans? that will fix the offense.....

[jonny1]

Bring back Kubes as soon as hes available. How longs his contract with the Texans? that will fix the offense.....

The Texans had 3 or 4 trips into the redzone Sunday and didn't score a TD (against the Falcons no less), so I don't think that is a solution.