Jay Cutler rookie cards. Do any of you collect?

[maven]

I collect. I'm thinking about purchasing this one.

It's a Jay Cutler 06 SP Authentic auto rookie card. #5 of 99. Right now it's going for $749.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/JAY-CUTLER-AUTO-SP-AUTHENTIC-5-OF-99_W0QQitemZ230174523525QQihZ013QQcategoryZ655QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Do any of you collect Cutler rookies/football cards?

[DB_champ24]

ya I do alittle bit..I would never spend that much money on a card though..I have a pretty cool one with a vanderbilt helmet sticker on it.

[maven]

I love auto cards. The industry is crazy today. Patches, # to 25, pieces of equipment, etc. My first ever auto card was a Thurman Thomas 1991 Pro Lines back in the day. And I'm referring to ones released by the company, not going up to the guy asking to sign my card.

[DB_champ24]

ya I like the auto cards a lot too..I like them much better than the game jerseys..I have some Champ Bailey Auto rookies on is out of 99..but ya the ones u go up and ask for r worthless and make the value of the card become worthless because im sure u know it has no authenicity

[maven]

ya I like the auto cards a lot too..I like them much better than the game jerseys..I have some Champ Bailey Auto rookies on is out of 99..but ya the ones u go up and ask for r worthless and make the value of the card become worthless because im sure u know it has no authenicity

For sure about the ones you go up & ask. Haven't picked up any Bailey autos. He's HOF material, so he has legacy value. Yeah, the patches are interesing not my favorites. I admit though I like the patch/auto combo. Very cool. I also collect the old ones. For example, I have a Len Dawson 1963Fleer rookie card. Condition of the card is very important to me.

[TheChamp24]

The sports trading card industry today is freakin insane. You have to be able to spend some serious dough to get anything worthwhile now a days.
I find it funny that Jamarcus Russell RC's are worth more than John Elway RC's, just to name something there.

[maven]

The sports trading card industry today is freakin insane. You have to be able to spend some serious dough to get anything worthwhile now a days.
I find it funny that Jamarcus Russell RC's are worth more than John Elway RC's, just to name something there.

Totally. Buying packs these days at their prices is like buying lottery tickets. If you hit, you hit BIG.

[DB_champ24]

ya the Bailey ones r cool..but Cutler cards r going crazy..theyre so expensiveeeee...ya the combos r very nice..I agree..I think its cool u have some older cards too(they have some ncie value), Im young(18) so I dont know the older guys too well and never got a chance to really collect them. I do have a John Elway rookie card though and am thinking about gettting it graded, what do u think?... other older rookie cards I have, which arent too old are Steve Atwater and Emmitt Smith

[DB_champ24]

Totally. Buying packs these days at their prices is like buying lottery tickets. If you hit, you hit BIG.

Yesssss I knowwww...I have some pretty dissapointing stories..a guy in after me bought a box of 2005 NBA Legends after i Just bought a box..and he pulled out a Michael Jordan/ Julius Erving/ Magic auto game jersey card..I was sooooo depressed...I also got a box of uperdeck last year and got a Reggie Bush gameworn jersey and an LT quad patch jersey..I also got this really nice Vince Young rookie card and I didnt like him because Im a USC fan and I just had so much hate towards him and just thought he was gonna be bad so I sold the card for 50 bucks before the season..I dont even want to know what the card is worth now..I really regret selling that card

[Broncobiv]

It's been about 8 years since I was in the card collecting "business", so bear with me. But as far as I remember, even the best auto inserts never went for more than a few hundred bucks. And this one is up to $750 with a day left to go in the auction?? I haven't looked at a Beckett in 8 years either, but are cards these days really going for that much? I mean, I remember game used jersey cards, pieces of footballs, pieces of helmets, autographs, etc, etc. But they were never that expensive. Has inflation taken off in card collecting now too?

[maven]

ya the Bailey ones r cool..but Cutler cards r going crazy..theyre so expensiveeeee...ya the combos r very nice..I agree..I think its cool u have some older cards too(they have some ncie value), Im young(18) so I dont know the older guys too well and never got a chance to really collect them. I do have a John Elway rookie card though and am thinking about gettting it graded, what do u think?... other older rookie cards I have, which arent too old are Steve Atwater and Emmitt Smith

I'm not into grading, but I take the cards VERY seriously, and the extremes I use when judging a particular card. Yes, buying card on Ebay is tricky. I'm not fully satisfied with this Jay Cutler that I'm currently looking at, so I might pass. Reason for not grading is because I plan to keep them & pass them on, not sell. Also, I think the grading, in general, is BS. Say a PSA 10 or BGS 10. PSA went crazy back in the day, so now they are allege more strict. For example, lets say PSA gave John Elway's RC and there are 5000 PSA 10(making it up), thus the market is flooded with John Elway PSA 10. You know damn well the next John Elway PSA is going to be hard, if not impossible to grade PSA 10. More so applies to BGS since they're more strict, rather than PSA. I'd rather not someone handle the cards. Less touching/mailing/accidents to occur when getting cards graded. They sit packed away and I don't view them for years.

[maven]

It's been about 8 years since I was in the card collecting "business", so bear with me. But as far as I remember, even the best auto inserts never went for more than a few hundred bucks. And this one is up to $750 with a day left to go in the auction?? I haven't looked at a Beckett in 8 years either, but are cards these days really going for that much? I mean, I remember game used jersey cards, pieces of footballs, pieces of helmets, autographs, etc, etc. But they were never that expensive. Has inflation taken off in card collecting now too?

Yes, some cards go for thousands & tens of thousands of dollars and upwards to 7 figures.

[maven]

Yesssss I knowwww...I have some pretty dissapointing stories..a guy in after me bought a box of 2005 NBA Legends after i Just bought a box..and he pulled out a Michael Jordan/ Julius Erving/ Magic auto game jersey card..I was sooooo depressed...I also got a box of uperdeck last year and got a Reggie Bush gameworn jersey and an LT quad patch jersey..I also got this really nice Vince Young rookie card and I didnt like him because Im a USC fan and I just had so much hate towards him and just thought he was gonna be bad so I sold the card for 50 bucks before the season..I dont even want to know what the card is worth now..I really regret selling that card

OUCH with the box selection. Very nice scores with the Bush gw and LT quad.

Have to think objectively. I can understand you hate towards Young, but in this collecting you have to think objectively and throw your personal opinions out the window.

[Broncobiv]

Yes, some cards go for thousands & tens of thousands of dollars and upwards to 7 figures.
You mean newer cards, not like cards from the 50's and stuff, right? The cards you're talking about are from the 2000's? That's nuts.

[CSU Husker]

Out of curiosity, how much does a pack of cards like these cost?

[maven]

You mean newer cards, not like cards from the 50's and stuff, right? The cards you're talking about are from the 2000's? That's nuts.

Yes. It's wild.

[Bob]

I have a Cutler rookie card -- it is a pic of him while he was at Vanderbuilt. The last I heard about trading cards was that the majority of them -- even popular players, have less value than they did some 30 years ago -- I dont know why that seems to be the case now days. If you have $750.00 to blow on a card, for a great second-year player who could blow out his knee this Sunday, then you are either loaded, or unmarried.

[Broncobiv]

Yes. It's wild.
Man, what happened in the past 10 years?! I mean, when I collected in the late 90's, the most expensive cards were a few hundred...MAYBE a bit over $1,000!

[Old Man]Sheesh! Collectors today![/Old Man]

[maven]

I have a Cutler rookie card -- it is a pic of him while he was at Vanderbuilt. The last I heard about trading cards was that the majority of them -- even popular players, have less value than they did some 30 years ago -- I dont know why that seems to be the case now days. If you have $750.00 to blow on a card, for a great second-year player who could blow out his knee this Sunday, then you are either loaded, or unmarried.

Production/quantities/rare/etc I still mix in old with the new.

Play for fun. What if Cutler is HOF bound 15 years from now?

Ever buy/sell/options stocks(which I do)?

It's one of my hobbies. And not married with kids.!Booya!

[DB_champ24]

Maven, I agree with u about the grading and Ive never done it because I dont see myself selling my cards either..thanks for the input..and I know ive learned my lesson about Vince Young..What other newer cards do u have that have some value to them?

[maven]

You'll like this, Vince Young 2006 SP authentic 2 color patch auto of #/270.

[DB_champ24]

hahahaha..IM sure that cards worth atleast a few hundred

[maven]

Maven, I agree with u about the grading and Ive never done it because I dont see myself selling my cards either..thanks for the input..and I know ive learned my lesson about Vince Young..What other newer cards do u have that have some value to them?

Don't sell, and it's not all about the dollar amount.

Also remember, think of natural disasters. Earthquakes, mud slides, hurricanes, acts of god, human error, wife throwing them in the garbage, etc dwindles the amount of cards out there. Time increases value.

[maven]

hahahaha..IM sure that cards worth atleast a few hundred

It's in the hundreds range. Nice card.

[DB_champ24]

yupppp..I think these Cutler cards r gonna be worth lots as the years go by

[TheChamp24]

Packs like SP Authentic go for $5-$8 a pack. A box will run you $100+. I've found the best prices on boxes are from eBay, but you are more likely to get better cards from a local card shop, who sells higher.
I stopped collecting like 2003/2004. I am a huge Champ Bailey fan, even when he was a Redskin, and when he was drafted set out to collect as much of his stuff as I could. I ended up getting nearly every single RC he has, I'm missing like 3 of the lesser named brands. I have a couple auto's, game used cards, its a nice collection.
However, I have begun to notice not a lot of people care about game used cards now unless its a patch of some sort or auto'd. I mean, I have a Peyton Manning jersey card, but big whoop, its worth like $20-$30 probably. I have a Jerry Rice jersey card thats worth $20.
The big thing now is low print, auto'd cards, which is making the RC's today so valuable. I remember back in 2004 Big Ben RC's were going for $300+. Auto'd RC's. I just don't understand why you would pay that much for a RC of someone in their rookie year when you could get RC's of Marino, Elway, Montana, Jerry Rice and Barry Sanders for that much, and I'm not even kidding.

[maven]

yupppp..I think these Cutler cards r gonna be worth lots as the years go by

Agree. He's going to be an elite QB & has HOF potential.

[maven]

Packs like SP Authentic go for $5-$8 a pack. A box will run you $100+. I've found the best prices on boxes are from eBay, but you are more likely to get better cards from a local card shop, who sells higher.
I stopped collecting like 2003/2004. I am a huge Champ Bailey fan, even when he was a Redskin, and when he was drafted set out to collect as much of his stuff as I could. I ended up getting nearly every single RC he has, I'm missing like 3 of the lesser named brands. I have a couple auto's, game used cards, its a nice collection.
However, I have begun to notice not a lot of people care about game used cards now unless its a patch of some sort or auto'd. I mean, I have a Peyton Manning jersey card, but big whoop, its worth like $20-$30 probably. I have a Jerry Rice jersey card thats worth $20.
The big thing now is low print, auto'd cards, which is making the RC's today so valuable. I remember back in 2004 Big Ben RC's were going for $300+. Auto'd RC's. I just don't understand why you would pay that much for a RC of someone in their rookie year when you could get RC's of Marino, Elway, Montana, Jerry Rice and Barry Sanders for that much, and I'm not even kidding.

For me. I already have those & multiples. How many Elway/Marino/Rice/Steve Young USFL rooks does a guy need? Like I said, I collect old/new. Your exactly correct in regards to low print #/autos/equipment.

I prefer the glam positions because I'm sure you know they tend to have more value and will always will.

[TheChamp24]

For me. I already have those & multiples. How many Elway/Marino/Rice/Steve Young USFL rooks does a guy need? Like I said, I collect old/new. Your exactly correct in regards to low print #/autos/equipment.

I prefer the glam positions because I'm sure you know they tend to have more value and will always will.

Well, I was just stating that for a new collector, they can either get 1 Jay Cutler RC, or get a Joe Montana, John Elway, Dan Marino, Jerry Rice and Barry Sanders RC's.
I also hate how many brands there are now a days. Like in collecting my Champ Bailey RC's, I believe there were 54 sets he was in, and in some he wasn't even in them being a defensive player. Thats ridiculous.
And yes, the "glamour" positions make the most money in terms of value in the card game. You can get tons of Champ Bailey stuff pretty cheap, and he's the best CB in the game. The best money makers are QB's, they ALWAYS sell well. I remember I got auto redemptions for David Carr and Kyle Boller back when Boller was a rookie, and ended up trading those 2 cards for some nice stuff.
I will always remember the best box I ever opened was. It was an Upper Deck Series 2 of baseball, I think 2003. First pack I opened, Cal Ripken, Jr. auto'd jersey. Second pack, Sammy Sosa auto'd jersey. Fourth pack, Juan Gonzalez jersey. 5th pack, Ichiro jersey. I ended up selling the Sosa jersey to someone who worked at the card shop for $175, kept the Ripken, and traded the Ichiro for I think Mattingley jersey and something else. The Ripken auto'd jersey card is my favorite card in my collection now.
And now, since I'm in college, I've totaled up my "good" auto's/jerseys/RC's that I'd like to sell, and in January of this year, they totaled $5,000+. I haven't gone to try to sell them yet, because for one, business here in Oklahoma kinda sucks in that regards.

[Broncoman13]

I stopped collecting a long time ago. I bought a pack of cards one time and pulled a Shaun Alexander Rookie Auto #'d to 25. Needless to say I was super excited. Not sure what ever happened to that card, probably traded it for a bunch of Ricky Williams rookie cards or something stupid like that. I do have another Shaun Alexander #'d rookie card, but it's #'d up to 500 I think.

I'll never forget going to a trade show in Panama City, Florida. You always hear rumors of people with "rare" cards. Well this cat walks in with a Barry Sanders auto #'d to 5. It was card 01 of 05. I think it was a Topps Chrome Refractor type card. He traded it for a bunch of Michael Jordan rookie cards and 3 or 4 football cards. One of which was a rookie Tim Couch card. I'll never forget that, especially b/c he bombed so badly!

[Broncoman13]

I collect. I'm thinking about purchasing this one.

It's a Jay Cutler 06 SP Authentic auto rookie card. #5 of 99. Right now it's going for $749.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/JAY-CUTLER-AUTO-SP-AUTHENTIC-5-OF-99_W0QQitemZ230174523525QQihZ013QQcategoryZ655QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Do any of you collect Cutler rookies/football cards?

I just looked at the link. You do realize that is an ungraded card right? $700+ for a card that may not be in mint condition is not a smart move. I don't collect anymore so I couldn't tell you if that's the norm in today's market? IMO, that the same thing as buying an autographed 8x10 w/out a CoA.

[maven]

I just looked at the link. You do realize that is an ungraded card right? $700+ for a card that may not be in mint condition is not a smart move. I don't collect anymore so I couldn't tell you if that's the norm in today's market? IMO, that the same thing as buying an autographed 8x10 w/out a CoA.


hahaha, Tim Couch. Barry auto #5 for trade...

Oh for sure. Ebay is one of the sources to purchase these days. There's also a sports card forum I frequent where you do transactions/trades.

I am looking for a Jay Cutler sp authentic auto/low #. In general, nothing beats an eyeball and loupe before purchase.

[Broncoman13]

hahaha, Tim Couch. Barry auto #5 for trade...

Oh for sure. Ebay is one of the sources to purchase these days. There's also a sports card forum I frequent where you do transactions/trades.

I am looking for a Jay Cutler sp authentic auto/low #. In general, nothing beats an eyeball and loupe before purchase.

Oh, he got good value. The Jordan rookies at the time were valued in the $1000's. He got 3 of them. Seems like Randy Moss' rookie cards at the time were really high as well. The only reason I remember the Couch one was b/c he was such a bust. But that was only 1 of like 7 or 8 cards he got for that Barry card. I do remember somebody telling me when I asked how much that Barry card was worth... "whatever the holder says it's worth!"

[maven]

Oh, he got good value. The Jordan rookies at the time were valued in the $1000's. He got 3 of them. Seems like Randy Moss' rookie cards at the time were really high as well. The only reason I remember the Couch one was b/c he was such a bust. But that was only 1 of like 7 or 8 cards he got for that Barry card. I do remember somebody telling me when I asked how much that Barry card was worth... "whatever the holder says it's worth!"

Very cool. :thumbs:

And the last quote:giggle: In some ways it's just that, the guy really wanted the Barry card it sounds like.

[Requiem]

My sister collects cards, pretty much only Green Bay cards - but she has the uncanny ability of finding Jay Cutler rookie cards in every nice pack she buys. I have about seven or eight Cutler rookie cards, but none of them are that special. I think one of them is worth like fifteen bucks, which is still nice - but nothing as crazy as what you guys have told.

I was at a card shop the other day buying a friend a birthday president (he loves Magic the Gathering) and they had a whole line-up of Young, Leinart and Cutler rookie cards. They had one Cutler autograph that was only out of a certain number and I think they were only asking $45.00 for it. I thought that was pretty cheap in hindsight, considering what we're dealing with here. Needless to say, I didn't buy it because I didn't want to drop that for a card, but I buy a few nice packs and a set occasionally hoping to find some nice rookie cards.

[ChampBailey24]

there is a set i think is calleed the varsity letters which are each one letter of cutler from his jersey the set already goes for 5,000

[HEAV]

http://cgi.ebay.com/2007-Topps-Heritage-Jay-Cutler-Rookie-Auto-Autograph_W0QQitemZ170153116352QQihZ007QQcategoryZ 149910QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Here's a Topps Heritage Auto. I got one last year for $20 at a card show.

[maven]

http://cgi.ebay.com/2007-Topps-Heritage-Jay-Cutler-Rookie-Auto-Autograph_W0QQitemZ170153116352QQihZ007QQcategoryZ 149910QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Here's a Topps Heritage Auto. I got one last year for $20 at a card show.

Very cool. :strong:

[Atwater His Ass]

That's ridiculous. But I guess it's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. The question is, 15 years from now, what will someone be willing to pay for it?

[maven]

Check out the 1st card in this auction.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ultimate-Jay-Cutler-Auto-Set-Young-Leinart-Auto_W0QQitemZ180163730767QQihZ008QQcategoryZ73406 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



:militia:

[TheChamp24]

I will say, if you want an auto'd card of a big time player, you can get one "cheap". You just won't get one numbered. Like that Topps Heritage. Heck, anyone remember Collector's Edge? I had a Peyton Manning auto from the 1999 set, and it was only worth like $40. I traded it in 2002 or 2003 for an Edgerrin James auto(was thinking Edge was going to be an All Time Great, and already had a SP Authentic Manning auto).
And thats another thing. If I already have an auto of a player, I'm more willing to trade it for something else that I don't have.
And the card shop I went to, I never really liked how all the singles were priced at like 70% book value, meaning he was trying to sell a $100 card for $70. If you go to any card show, max you'll have to pay most likely is 50% of book value.

[lazarus4444]

It is very rare for a card to go for book.

[TheChamp24]

Yeah, I know a card won't sell for book, but most of the time you can buy one for half book. My card shop that I went to in Colorado was asking 70%+ of BV.

[CBF1]

You are kidding right? Take a look at Elways rookie cards and see the value of a hall of fame, MVP, superbowl winners card. Now look at what Cutler has done. Take that money and attend a game or 2, alot better investment.

[80smith]

Cutler is too expensive for me to collect. I do have some of his regular Topps and Bowman rookie cards. I went with Brandon Marshall cards and that turned out to be the best thing I did. Some of his cards doubled in price and they were cheap when I was buying them last year. I dont think his cards will hold in value like a Cutler will but for a quick buck go with Marshall.

[-Slap-]

I'm not here to criticize what anyone does as a hobby, but the sports card industry has got to be one of the most soulless in the memorabilia business. Donruss sliced up a game used Babe Ruth jersey a few years ago. They should have taken that razor to the company president instead.

[Sassy]

You are kidding right? Take a look at Elways rookie cards and see the value of a hall of fame, MVP, superbowl winners card. Now look at what Cutler has done. Take that money and attend a game or 2, alot better investment.

That's what I would do, too!
(Much better memories ;D )