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09-27-2007, 06:42 PM
New year. New Season. Good Luck. :approve:

Kings and Ducks play saturday and sunday to kick off the season. Sunday's game will be on Versus when more than half the country is watching the NFL. Brilliant!

09-28-2007, 05:00 PM
New year. New Season. Good Luck. :approve:

Kings and Ducks play saturday and sunday to kick off the season. Sunday's game will be on Versus when more than half the country is watching the NFL. Brilliant!

Iam not sure how bettman keeps his job, bonehead moves like this just kiss me away is it really that hard to schedule games on days they don't have to compete for fans.. none the less iam completely stoked about the NHL starting a new season i got the center ice package on top of the NFL package and picture in picture. :thumbs:

09-28-2007, 05:29 PM
Colin Campbell was involved with a tele-conference call today discussing the Downie suspension.

Q. Can you characterize what Steve Downie did to Dean McAmmond? What you saw?

COLIN CAMPBELL: Characterize? We had requested this be put on the agenda for the board of governors. As a result, the general managers looked at a number of hits. We had 52 hits from last season that were not suspendable hits, but hits where shoulders were delivered to the head.

And from that meeting on, the general managers in June, it was in Ottawa in the finals, the Competition Committee met and reviewed the same hit.

We convened a group of coaches in late July, early August as well as having talked about the draft to a number of coaches, assistant coaches as well. We had six coaches that were brought in here and we discussed what we had found.

At the end of the day, there were a number of criteria that the groups didn’t like, and any of those criteria could get you suspended. At the same time, we wanted to keep hitting in the game of hockey. And legal shoulder checks to the head would be allowed if they were delivered in a legal fashion.

In this case, we felt that ?? and we don’t always do this. There are times I call certain people in the league, not involved in this, but involved in the actual group meetings we had this past summer, we discussed that with those people. I discussed with those people, and said this is exactly what we were talking about all summer long in every area ? targeting the head, launching one’s self, every aspect.

And unfortunately Steve Downie participated in all aspects of what the groups didn’t want to see in the game of hockey. So that’s how it was characterized. That he crossed the line, and crossed the line in a whole heartedly way.

Q. How did you feel personally when you saw the hit?

COLIN CAMPBELL: Well, it’s a hit that as soon as you see it happen live, and I happen to be watching the game live that night. Live, I mean on television. As soon as you see the hit you’re going, I think this ?? as soon as you see it live you think this is going to be a bad one.

Just based on the fact that Downie’s position in the air, then when you look at the other aspects, where the puck was released, and it’s not hard to identify that with all the work we have done this past summer, and all the videotape we’ve watched and all the feedback we’ve gotten from groups.

Q. How did Downie react to the suspension?

COLIN CAMPBELL: I don’t know. He was here in an in?person meeting this morning. And I called Paul at the airport on the way to Washington. So I let Paul know, so I don’t know how Steve Downie reacted.

Q. Is this a clear message to the players that you’re taking hits to the head more seriously than you have in the past. And in essence, are you making an example of Steve Downie?

COLIN CAMPBELL: No, that ?? if you didn’t ask that question, it was going to be asked sooner or later, and it was sooner.

We sent out a tape. We made a tape after all these meetings and every team in the league received this tape for their players. And we sent out a supplementary discipline reminder which we do every year. We also included what was read on the press release regarding all the criteria involved.

So the players are fully aware of what’s not acceptable now. And that’s what the Competition Committee is about. The players participated until the Competition Committee and that is what they didn’t want to see in the game. They’re the ones on the ice, they’re the real key stakeholders. It’s their careers that are out there.

So we sent that tape out, that was the message. This isn’t the message. That was the message. I didn’t think it was going to happen this soon, and I didn’t think it would be this clearcut.

There were going to be a couple criteria we’d have to rule on. Did he launch himself, was the timing going to be off? But the severity and the suspension was because of all the criteria were almost ?? it was a pass, pass, pass, pass, pass on all the criteria with the exception of the repeat offender. And the reason for that is this is Steve Downie’s first year in the National Hockey League.

Q. 20 games is on the Flyers roster. If you go down to the AHL do they have to honor the suspension?

COLIN CAMPBELL: They can do whatever they want. But the games don’t count in our league. That’s up to Dave Andrews and the American Hockey League. In the past, the National Hockey League ?? honor is not the right and proper word ?? but we don’t honor or respect. Those are the wrong use of words, but they serve it at that league, and he serves in our league.

And the lawyers will tell you that it’s a legal question as well, other than if it’s a suspension that has to deal with an official.

Q. Retaliation’s got to be a big issue for obvious reasons. We know that the league talked to him. What was the message to Brian McGrattan and anyone that retaliates?

COLIN CAMPBELL: Well, the game of hockey takes into consideration payback to some degree, and lots of it is instances. You hear about the player, for whatever reason, I don’t agree with what they say, so they can take care of what they have to take care of themselves. But in this case you can’t just issue threats.

We saw that in the Bertuzzi?Moore situation, it’s ridiculous to do that. And I had a discussion with Brian McGrattan yesterday, and he understands that. And hopefully Brian McGrattan and the Ottawa Senators understand that. You don’t do that. If something happens, nothing will happen, you just can’t do that.

Q. What do you say to critics who say this will stiffen up the penalty? One player this week said he should be banned from the game for life. What do you say to people who say this isn’t hard enough?

COLIN CAMPBELL: There is a reason we do our job, and a reason, as we said, we don’t operate in a vacuum. We had lots of input from owners, managers, coaches and players who have all been involved in the game a long, long time. And hitting is part of our game, and will always be, I hope, part of our game. It’s part of the game of hockey.

As far as critics saying this isn’t long enough, I think this is a steep, severe suspension. And if that player who wants it increased, he has an avenue through the NHL Players Association through the Competition Committee to state his case.

Q. The first question I want to ask you is there’s been no real precedent for this type of suspension. Why did you give him so many games?

COLIN CAMPBELL: Why did we give him so many games? Well, we had looked at, as I said, we’ve done a lot of work on this. And did I expected the first blow to the head, illegal blow based upon the criteria we arrived at over the summer it was going to add up to 20, no? Neither did I think that all the criteria were going to be involved in one play.

And in the future we understand that having issued a 20?game suspension took play after this kind of hit was, it’s going to have people speculating every time it’s a hit delivered and a player gets hurt.

And we’re not foolish enough to think there won’t be injuries in the game of hockey through body checks. And every time there is a body check and there’s an injury, the question is going to be asked how many games? Well, body checking is still allowed in our game. And there will be injuries. It’s when those body checks are delivered in an illegal fashion and we’ll have to determine that.

And we don’t want the players at all to be worried about delivering a hit. They’re professionals. They understand, and they understand probably more than anybody how a hit should be delivered and when and where and what’s illegal and what’s not legal. We’ve explained that clearly on our discipline memo as well as on the videotape that we distributed to every team in the league.

Q. So we can understand, if the Steve Moore hit on Marcus Naslund happened today, would that still be a zero?game suspension?

COLIN CAMPBELL: Okay, you’re testing my memory here. I still think it would be a zero?game suspension. I don’t think ?? I’d have to watch it again based upon the criteria. I don’t think he obviously lunged, because I think Marcus Naslund was kind of down low. But again, I’d have to watch it again to really apply the criteria that we determined last summer. But my gut still tells me no.

Q. Part of the reason I ask that is the follow?up you referred to, and that is when Brad May issued the bounty or comments. When you hear the McGrattan’s comments, are you not tempted to just suspend him, maybe even for the games that they play against each other? Is this the kind of thing you want in the NHL? And if it goes unpunished, what is to stop it from happening again? And I know what you’ll probably say something like, Well, watch the game and see what happens. But isn’t that too late once the public perception gets out there that there are some sorts of bounties or paybacks?

COLIN CAMPBELL: Well, because you said it maybe what are players thinking? Do we suspend them? If he said it, we deal with it now, and we don’t suspend him for saying that unless we feel the statement was over the top.

We’ve dealt already with Bryan Murray and that was enough. If he’s foolish enough to do something stupid, it’s going to, as I said, just take a look what happened in the other situation and I had a discussion with Bryan Murray about that.

This is not only Brian McGrattan’s area of concern now, it’s the whole Ottawa organization’s area of concern because Brian McGrattan said that.

Q. You don’t feel it’s too late if something happens after the case like it did in the Bertuzzi matter?

COLIN CAMPBELL: Well, you’re speculating now. We hope none of those things happen, but we’ll deal with it if something happens.

Q. Two questions: Can you give me an idea ?? there was so much outrage by players who saw the hit who were universally condemning. Some who said ban him. But everybody said you have to treat this one severely. How much does the players, the community of hockey in the NHL and the players reaction because they know the lines and what goes and what doesn’t go. How much does that play into your decision? And I have a follow?up.

COLIN CAMPBELL: Well, I tried ?? this is a little bit longer than we normally take to render a decision after a situation takes place. This happened Monday night, Tuesday night, and now it’s Friday. Normally, we act the next day. However, this had some different overtones and obviously severe repercussions to it, so we took a couple days longer. And being an in?person hearing it usually takes another day yet.

But I would say that I tried not to ?? I tried to stay as free as I could from any outside influences and just dealt with what I had to deal with as far as the stakeholders themselves and what we dealt with this summer.

As far as the comment that’s you’re referring to, if players are commenting on this, they’re the key stakeholders. It’s about their careers and about protecting their heads. And there are certain players in the game that play different styles. Some score goals, some are finesse players, some do a lot of hitting. They understand what should be involved in the game of hockey.

And even if you played the game like I have, it’s been so long ago, things changed now whether you’re a coach or manager now. I think you need that input from players and that’s why the Competition Committee has been very helpful for us.

And as I said, we beat this topic up hard with the Competition Committee. And they represented the players, and I think they did an excellent job. You’re talking about players like Shanahan, and Iginla, and Rob Blake who has been around a long time. They’re not adverse to physical play themselves. But when you cross that line, no player likes it when they cross the line. They’ll probably give you the most truthful answer of all. Other than if it’s an Ottawa player or Philly player, I think the two are emotionally involved.

Q. And the fact that Downie apologized publicly after the game and in the phone call to McAmmond, I guess, perhaps yesterday. How much had he not done that might that have affected the length of suspension? How much did that weigh into your decision?

COLIN CAMPBELL: I don’t think that’s a real important criteria. It’s nice of the young man to do that, and from Dean McAmmond’s position it’s nice. But as far as part of the discipline structure, it’s not part of our structure.

Q. You had mentioned as part of your statement that this was a deliberate and dangerous hit and had no place in our league. And I wonder how you define or determined basically what is dangerous in this kind of case?

COLIN CAMPBELL: Well, again, going into this press conference, Gary Meagher read the statement, and we had established criteria. And there are five criteria as far as late, as far as targeting the head, as far as leaving your feet and launching yourself. There are a few others, repeat offender, et cetera, so that’s on the press release.

And as far as saying that that’s one thing, as far as feeling it and knowing it, myself, Mike Murphy, Kris King, all of hockey operations have worked as we said on this press conference time and time again with the stakeholders of the game, being the players, coaches, managers and owners on what’s acceptable and what’s not acceptable. This has been distributed to all of the teams. The players have watched it.

And we’d be fools if we didn’t do anything. We wouldn’t be worth having a department if we didn’t act on this after telling the players that we would act on it. And the players have asked us to act on it. So they want to have a tough game, they want to have a hitting game, but they want a safe game as well.

Q. The other night in the Rangers?Islanders game, Andy Sutton came up high on Callahan with an elbow. After the game, Tom sort of referenced the videotapes that you did send out. And he characterized that as one of the hits that you’re trying to get rid of. My question is you see that hit, and why did that one not result in penalties?

COLIN CAMPBELL: Well, I talked to Andy Sutton yesterday morning. I received that tape. We can’t act as quickly, because we don’t get the games like we get them during the season when they’re televised.

But that really wasn’t part of what we’re clamping down on. That was something we’ve always clamped down on. Andy Sutton was suspended before for a hit like that against the glass. And this is an elbow he launched that did not injure the player, and the player ducked to get out of the way. And I fined Andy Sutton for that play itself, and warned Andy Sutton that this is a suspendable offense. And whether you’re 6’6” and he’s 5’8”, it doesn’t matter.

So as far as a legal blow to the head, that wasn’t legal, that was illegal. But there was no injury, and I don’t think he made complete contact from what I saw there was no injury on the play.

Q. How big of a factor is injury as far as how much discipline does come out after that?

COLIN CAMPBELL: Injury is important. Last year Chris Pronger throws an elbow and doesn’t make contact, he gets nothing. Chris Pronger throws an elbow and makes contact with the head, it’s a two?minute penalty. Because there’s a two?minute penalty for elbowing, if you elbow a player in the head, the shoulder, the arm, the rear end. If he causes an injury that, player has to be accountable for the injury he causes.

So that certainly is a key factor, and we’ve made that point. If you cause an injury, get ready, you could be susceptible to a suspension and a long suspension.

Q. I’m just wondering, I know that Mr. Downie was considered a first?time offender by league standards. But I’m just wondering if his history in the Ontario Hockey League had any bearing on the suspension? And secondly, I’m still a little unclear as to what happens if he is sent down to the American Hockey League? Can he play in the American Hockey League if he’s sent down? And if they choose to honor the suspension does that take games off the NHL suspension or is he suspended 20 NHL games regardless of whether or not he plays in the American Hockey League?

COLIN CAMPBELL: He’s suspended for 20 games in the National Hockey League. I understand your question, we’ve discussed this and thrown this around. There are implications as far as the cap count on the Philadelphia Flyers. There are implications on the roster, the 23?man roster. And how they look at this suspension and how they deal with the American Hockey League, that’s up to Dave Andrews.

We treat theirs the same way we treat ours. We’ve got our own issues and they’ve got their own issues. But he has to serve 20 games in this league. And in the past, players were allowed to play in the other league, being it our league or the AHL, depending on suspension. But they had to serve the suspension in the league they received the suspension in.

Q. And what about his past as an Ontario Hockey League player? Did that come into play at all in your thinking in this one?

COLIN CAMPBELL: Well, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t aware of Steve Downie’s ?? if you follow hockey at all, you follow hockey in all leagues as we all do here. However, when they come to our league, he has a clean slate. And we do not consider what he did in any other league and repeat offender is only what he does in the National Hockey League.

We have different rules here. There could be a player that hit the head legally in the OHL and got suspended. We don’t look at that kind of play in our league level, so there’s different aspects to that. And there’s a legal aspect to that, too.

So he had to be considered a first time offender, which we did do. And that is probably the only criteria that did not cut it when we looked at the hit that he laid on Dean McAmmond the other night.

09-28-2007, 05:42 PM

09-28-2007, 06:00 PM

The Starting Line

By Scott Burnside
No one team wished more for the regular season to last a little longer than the Colorado Avalanche. After a disappointing start, the Avs chased the Calgary Flames down the stretch with a 15-2-2 closing run, and Colorado even had one more win than the Flames. But the Avs' ninth-place finish in the West ended a streak of 11 straight postseason appearances for the franchise and marked the first nonplayoff season since the team moved west from Quebec.

In some ways, the decline was to be expected following years of general manager Pierre Lacroix mortgaging the team's future to stockpile veteran free agents in the free-spending years before the lockout. What is surprising is the rapid fashion in which new GM Francois Giguere has re-established the Avs as a playoff team. Buoyed by the play of Calder Trophy nominee Paul Stastny and fellow rookie Wojtek Wolski, Giguere went out and shored up his defense with Scott Hannan and injected more leadership and grit in the form of longtime Edmonton Oilers forward Ryan Smyth. The goaltending is still a bit iffy, but solid enough that the Avs could very easily jump back to the top of the heap in the ultra-competitive Northwest.

The Avs finished in a tie with Nashville as the most prolific offensive team in the Western Conference, a bit of a surprise given the departure of mainstays Rob Blake and Peter Forsberg, among others, in recent years. The good news is the Avs' scoring is nicely spread out. They had five 20-goal scorers and Smyth should add to that total (he had 36 last season). Stastny was the biggest surprise, setting a rookie record with a 19-game points streak. The Avs didn't get much help offensively from the back end beyond John-Michael Liles, who continues to impress with his puck-moving abilities and hockey smarts. Jordan Leopold, who played in only 15 games thanks to a variety of injuries, should help at both ends of the ice.

One wonders if captain Joe Sakic can repeat his 100-point performance, but we wondered whether he could do it last season, too. It didn't seem to bother the future Hall of Famer. The Avs boasted the fourth-best power play in the league, and there's no reason that should change much.

If you can point to one element of the Avs' game that likely cost them a playoff berth, it was their defensive play. In a conference that boasted some of the league's best defenses, the Avs ranked 18th, and that wasn't quite good enough. Their penalty-killing unit was 23rd and that will have to improve, and should, with the addition of the tough-nosed Hannan. While Liles has taken strides since the lockout, the past two seasons have been less than ideal for Leopold. A member of the U.S. Olympic team in 2006, Leopold ran afoul of Darryl Sutter in Calgary and ended up being dealt to Colorado for Alex Tanguay. Leopold had just two goals in 2005-06 and then suffered through an injury-plagued campaign last season. He needs to get back on track for the Avs to get better on the back end.

There are two schools of thought regarding starting netminder Peter Budaj. Either he's pretty much topped out and will never be more than a B or B-plus goalie, or he's slowly building himself into a top-level netminder who could take the Avs deep in the playoffs. This season will go a long way in determining which school of thought prevails. Budaj was solid enough, posting a 31-16-6 record in his second season as the de facto starter in Colorado. One of the issues for Budaj will be the perpetual shadow cast by backup Jose Theodore, the former Vezina and Hart Trophy winner who is now being paid $6 million to open the door at the end of the Avs' bench. That's not good money management in the cap world, and you can bet Giguere will be looking for a taker for Theodore and his contract. Good luck.

Joel Quenneville has long been considered one of the top coaches in the NHL, and with good reason. Still, the big prize, or even a trip to the big Stanley Cup finals, has eluded the Windsor, Ontario, native despite having very good teams in St. Louis. He isn't likely to get to the Cup finals this season, but it may not be that far off with this Avs team.

Scott Burnside is the NHL writer for ESPN.com.

09-28-2007, 07:22 PM
Next spring, when writers sit down at their computers and vote for some of the NHL trophies for the 2007-08 season, they will have, as they always do, reams and/or megabytes of information at their disposal.

Offensive production is always most persuasive, and usually with considerable justification. But I have the feeling that if minds are open to a defenseman who doesn't necessarily making eye-popping contributions at the offensive end, as they were in 2003 when the Blues' Barret Jackman won the Calder Trophy, the 2008 rookie of the year voting could come down to the All-American Johnson boys.

Jack Johnson, left, played a five-game stint with the Kings last season after Michigan bowed out of the NCAA Tournament.

Erik Johnson of the Blues.

Jack Johnson of the Kings.

They're not related, but share some crossed paths and similarities of background. Both played for the U.S. National Team Development program before heading off to brief forays in college, Erik for one season with the Minnesota Gophers and Jack for two seasons with the Michigan Wolverines. They also have been World Junior Championship teammates.

In the past 30 years, five defensemen have won the Calder: Jackman, the Islanders' Bryan Berard in 1997, the Rangers' Brian Leetch in 1989, the Flames' Gary Suter in 1986 and the Bruins' Ray Bourque in 1980. (In 1978, Barry Beck, menacing on virtually every level as a rookie at age 20 before injuries derailed his career, had a Calder-worthy season with the Colorado Rockies, scoring 22 goals and shining defensively for a team that finished with 59 points. The only problem was that Mike Bossy burst onto the scene with the Islanders the same season and rightfully won the award.)

Not that it means anything, but three of the five defensemen among that group -- Berard, Leetch and Suter -- are American, like the Johnsons. It's perhaps more significant that Leetch, Suter and Bourque, while undeniably elite all-around defensemen (Suter to a lesser degree), helped their Calder causes by posting an average of 19 goals and 68 points in their rookie seasons.

So the odds may be against the Johnsons, even if they play well when thrown into the mix with previously struggling franchises.

Jack, the smaller of the Johnsons at 6-foot-1 and 215 pounds, likely will have more significant offensive numbers with the Kings, both because of the nature of his game and the role he will play. He got his feet wet during a five-game stint with the Kings last season after Michigan didn't advance out of the NCAA West Regional, and that can't hurt Johnson. The Hurricanes will be kicking themselves for trading his rights (and Oleg Tverdovsky) to the Kings in September 2006 in the deal that landed them Eric Belanger and Tim Gleason, a decent prospect who had been the Senators' No. 1 pick in 2003. That's not nearly enough to justify a largely unjustifiable deal in the first place. Hurricanes fans should be griping about it in the RBC Center tailgates for years.

The trick, of course, will be for Johnson not to get beaten down by what is likely to be the Kings' continued 2007-08 struggles, beginning in London, albeit in a rebuilding process headed in the right direction. His plus/minus could get ugly, and that could offset his offensive production for some voters.

And Erik Johnson? At 6-foot-4 and 222 pounds, and still only 19, he's more commanding physically and any judgment of him will have to take into consideration the immeasurables, including his sweeping work in the defensive end and his ability to get the puck up the ice. It's hard for a teenager to be imposing, but he will be able to pull it off for a Blues team that actually was decent under coach Andy Murray in the second half.

The Calder Trophy race also will include some dynamite young forwards who will put up significant offensive numbers. If it's Patrick Kane of the Blackhawks, for example, he might get extra credit (subconsciously, but this is the way it works) for doing it immediately after his draft year, and perhaps for helping re-energize the NHL in Chicago, with its huge pool of knowledgeable and passionate fans holding the Hawks at arm's length because of disillusion.

That kind of reinvigoration would get my attention, and I'm rooting for it, whether it comes from Kane or ex-University of North Dakota center Jonathan Toews, a terrific two-way player who helped Canada to the 2006 and 2007 World Junior Championship titles and is recovering from a broken finger suffered in an early exhibition game. And certainly, if Kane and/or Toews are instrumental in getting the United Center full and rocking again, they'll be worthy of major consideration.

There are a handful of other possible Calder candidates, of course, and listing them would be perilous, in part because a couple of them are going to be at least a bit surprising. A year ago, was anyone expecting Colorado's Paul Stastny to be among the Calder finalists, regardless of his lineage? Even Anze Kopitar's strong season at Los Angeles was more than expected.

So if anyone wants to get into tossing in the "what-abouts" ("Wait a minute, what about …?"), there are other names to throw into the mix.

• The Capitals' Nicklas Backstrom, who will likely have a productive rookie season, and would get more YouTube and "SportsCenter" time if he beats Wild goalie Niklas Backstrom at Washington on Feb. 26.

• Edmonton center Andrew Cogliano has joined the Oilers from the University of Michigan and played on Canada's WJC winners.

• There's also ex-Wolverines center T.J. Hensick, who is likely to stick with the Avalanche.

• Thrashers center Bryan Little could step up.

• With Phoenix still rebuilding, young centers Martin Hanzal and Peter Mueller could get enough work and be productive enough to be in the mix.

• Speaking of genes, Ottawa winger Nick Foligno (Mike's son) and Rangers defenseman Marc Staal also have the right ones. Even among defensemen, the Penguins' prominence will help rookie Kristopher Letang.

But I'm going to stick with this: If voters are willing to take hard looks back to the blue line and consider the big picture, the winner will be a Johnson.

09-28-2007, 09:50 PM
Handy chart (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1191532)

09-28-2007, 10:12 PM
Go Penguins. Bring home the Cup.


09-29-2007, 12:01 AM

Thursday, September 27, 2007
ESPN deletes Buccigross speculation.

ESPN has edited a column by SportsCenter anchor and hockey writer John Buccigross to no longer include a reference to a potential reunion between the network and the National Hockey League.

Buccigross, writing the season debut of his weekly hockey column, speculated that ESPN would gain the rights to air National Hockey League games for the first time since 2004.

"NHL players want it, the NHL wants it and ESPN wants it," Buccigross wrote, "NBC and Versus somewhat holds the cards however, so we will have to wait and see; but my guess is yes. ESPN will have a piece of the pie."

That entire portion of the article (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/preview2007/columns/story?columnist=buccigross_john&id=3036832) has now been omitted. Earlier this summer, John Ourand and Tripp Mickle of The Sports Business Journal reported that NHL and ESPN officials were in preliminary discussions to air NHL games on ESPN2 "as soon as the 2008-09 (http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=article.main&articleId=55770)


I saw a piece the other day that where John Buccigross had mentioned ESPN was almost certain to get Hockey back on the network. It was in an article by Sports Business Daily, so I jumped over to Buccigross' page to see what the statement was. I couldn't find anything related at all in any of his pieces so I just passed on the item all together.

Well as it turns out there was a reason I couldn't find anything. Via Sports Media Watch (http://sportsmediawatch.blogspot.com/2007/09/espn-on-buccigross-nothing-to-see-here.html)....

ESPN has edited a column by SportsCenter anchor and hockey writer John Buccigross to no longer include a reference to a potential reunion between the network and the National Hockey League. Buccigross, writing the season debut of his weekly hockey column, speculated that ESPN would gain the rights to air National Hockey League games for the first time since 2004.

"NHL players want it, the NHL wants it and ESPN wants it," Buccigross wrote, "NBC and Versus somewhat holds the cards however, so we will have to wait and see; but my guess is yes. ESPN will have a piece of the pie."

That entire portion of the article has now been omitted (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/preview2007/columns/story?columnist=buccigross_john&id=3036832).

That is actually a good move by ESPN since the decision is solely that of NBC, but blogs scare the hell out of me. Putting up un-edited content like that is horrible and cannot be tolerated! (I kid, I kid)

Barry Melrose is rolling over in his grave.......What's that? He's not dead??? Well then.....warm up that mullet my friend.

09-29-2007, 01:38 PM
Stiffy (http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/A2Y/comments/so_strange_sopel_says_so_long/)

Weird. Brent Sopel travels to Toronto with the Wings yesterday, only to tell them he’s signed a one-year deal with the Blackhawks. It makes sense, from a fashion standpoint.

A2Y Reader, SRT

good luck with your fellow giveaway partner with the equally dashing hair…

Let’s see what we can find on this one, eh?

Around 8:20 last night the Leafs announcers told us Chicago has signed Brent Sopel to a one-year deal worth 1.5 million. TSN confirmed it (http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=219440&hubname=nhl) a few minutes later.

Sopel travelled with the Red Wings to Toronto on Friday afternoon, and was scheduled to play against the Maple Leafs in a pre-season game that night, but informed the team shortly before the game that he was in serious contract talks with another club.

Pretty straightforward, right? Read further.

He had been in Detroit’s training camp on a tryout basis, and was offered a contract by the Red Wings shortly before signing with Chicago.

He’d been offered a contract by the Wings, then signed with Chicago? What? Yep. Not only did the Wings offer him a contract, but they did it twice. They tried to sign him Thursday, then again yesterday. He was supposed to play last night, then said “nope. not playing. not gonna play and you can’t make me.” Exact words? No.

Bruce MacLeod is all over this (http://redwingscorner.blogspot.com/). Refers to it as a “defection.”

“I don’t know the rules for sure, but I thought when he was trying out for you, he was trying out for you,” said Babcock. “He just told me before the game he wasn’t playing. Obviously we were planning on him playing. I guess I don’t know the rules very good and we’ll have to figure it out.

“If you don’t want to be a Red Wing, you don’t want to be a Red Wings. It’s real simple. I think the opportunity here is fantastic. Over the last few years, anybody that’s come here has had a career year. If we just look at finances, if you have a career year, you get paid a ton the next year.”

Babcock’s right. What a frigging dumbass.

09-29-2007, 01:50 PM
Bernier is kicking some serious ass...whoooo! We may have a ****ing goalie after all.


09-29-2007, 01:54 PM
I finally get to see JJ play the dude is a very physical player him and parros are beating on one another..

09-29-2007, 01:54 PM
Bernier is kicking some serious ass...whoooo! We may have a ****ing goalie after all.


I just turned on FSN to watch your game, 2-0 so far, impressive. I will focus on Bernier and JMFJ.

09-29-2007, 01:55 PM
I just turned on FSN to watch your game, 2-0 so far, impressive. I will focus on Bernier and JMFJ.

JMFJ was shoving Parros around on the Ducks awhile ago. He is doing pretty good so far.

09-29-2007, 01:55 PM
Bernier really played well in preseason and looks to be a keeper..

09-29-2007, 01:56 PM
Bernier really played well in preseason and looks to be a keeper..

Yeah I am changing my Mane username to BerniernextRoy.:~ohyah!:

09-29-2007, 01:57 PM
I still hate bertuzzi i hope hes a giant failure again (just sayin)

09-29-2007, 01:57 PM
Yeah I am changing my Mane username to BerniernextRoy.:~ohyah!:

Easy there chief!!

09-29-2007, 02:01 PM
I really wished the NHL would televise preseason games iam assuming you guys would also like to see our young talent play when trying to make the team, having to depend on box scores until the season starts is kinda stupid.

09-29-2007, 02:02 PM
Bronx where you watching the Game? You have center ice?

09-29-2007, 02:03 PM
Bronx where you watching the Game? You have center ice?


09-29-2007, 02:04 PM
Yeah I am changing my Mane username to BerniernextRoy.:~ohyah!:

Haha...I knew it.

09-29-2007, 02:05 PM

Bastard...haha. I'll sign up once my next check comes in.

09-29-2007, 02:07 PM
Bastard...haha. I'll sign up once my next check comes in.

I usually wait till half the season is done (HALF PRICE) but the wife got me the NFL and NHL package for my birthday.. :thumbsup:

09-29-2007, 02:07 PM
Bronx where you watching the Game? You have center ice?

its on cbc in canada, i dunno if you can watch it on th web or not, try here (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/)

09-29-2007, 02:08 PM
I usually wait till half the season is done (HALF PRICE) but the wife got me the NFL and NHL package for my birthday.. :thumbsup:

if ya dont mind me askin whats that cost down in your neck of the woods ? i pay 30 bucks a month an that gets me everything, football, hockey, basketball, and college stuff too.

09-29-2007, 02:09 PM
its on cbc in canada, i dunno if you can watch it on th web or not, try here (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/)

Yeah I tried that this morning but doesn't work because I live in the friggin states Chadta.

09-29-2007, 02:10 PM
I usually wait till half the season is done (HALF PRICE) but the wife got me the NFL and NHL package for my birthday.. :thumbsup:

Yeah that was my plan too, but sopcast sucks today. I can't even get on because there is too many people using it.

09-29-2007, 02:11 PM
hm so you need a canadian proxy then ,

09-29-2007, 02:12 PM
if ya dont mind me askin whats that cost down in your neck of the woods ? i pay 30 bucks a month an that gets me everything, football, hockey, basketball, and college stuff too.

4 payments of $37.25..

09-29-2007, 02:14 PM
hm so you need a canadian proxy then ,

yeah I do.

09-29-2007, 02:18 PM
Kings PP Goal.



09-29-2007, 02:19 PM
Ducks getting some offensive pressure now, its a shootin gallery

09-29-2007, 02:20 PM
Kings PP Goal.



Anze set it up! Nice!

09-29-2007, 02:22 PM
God! it's great to have hockey back on! i think i will have a beer.

09-29-2007, 02:27 PM
KOPITAR off for touching....lol

09-29-2007, 02:29 PM
KOPITAR off for touching....lol

Apparently, the Ducks new plan B is "if all else fails, dive until they call something."

09-29-2007, 02:30 PM
Kings killed the PP

09-29-2007, 02:31 PM
That POS Pronger is getting booed in London. HAHA I love it!

09-29-2007, 02:33 PM
Good goaltending this period on both ends..

09-29-2007, 02:36 PM on port 3128

give that a try

09-29-2007, 02:41 PM
There goes the shut out..

09-29-2007, 02:48 PM
Quacks really being on the pressure..

09-29-2007, 02:52 PM
handzus dont look right without hair

09-29-2007, 02:53 PM

This picture courtesy of Berniernextroy LOL

09-29-2007, 02:53 PM
handzus dont look right without hair

Hes probably faster without it he had a serious hay bale going..

09-29-2007, 02:54 PM
This picture courtesy of Berniernextroy LOL

That last save was killer...

09-29-2007, 02:59 PM
Hes probably faster without it he had a serious hay bale going..

naw hes probally faster cuz hes got a bionic knee now LOL man did philly get screwed in that trade, kyle calder for handzus DUH, hey Berniernextroy youve got both of them now dont ya ? LOL :~ohyah!:

09-29-2007, 03:04 PM
hey Berniernextroy youve got both of them now dont ya ? LOL :~ohyah!:

Yeah we do, both aren't expected to be saviors of the franchise obviously but they will be nice compliments to Anze, Cammelleri, O'sullivan etc. Basically they make our team deeper. Anyway I am tickled to death that we actually have a ****ing goalie that is awesome.


Post approved by Berniernextroy.

09-29-2007, 03:07 PM
did ya try that proxy i posted ? it seems to work, you could watch cfl football now if ya wanted on it

09-29-2007, 03:08 PM
did ya try that proxy i posted ? it seems to work, you could watch cfl football now if ya wanted on it

yeah it did, thanks man. Hate that the game is on tommorow right when the NFL is on.

09-29-2007, 05:46 PM
Watched the game on CBC, Bernier looks very good. Kings are starting to get the right pieces together.

CBC must be in love with Bertuzzi considering all the face time he received.

NHL back...college hockey season around the corner...an AHL team with some potential...fun times ahead!

09-29-2007, 06:47 PM


09-30-2007, 01:51 PM

Roy, Derek, Buf. 5 6
Alfredsson, Daniel, Ott. 3 5
Franzen, Johan, Det. 6 5
Rolston, Brian, Min. 4 5
*Setoguchi, Devin, S.J. 7 5
Stastny, Paul, Colo 5 5
11 tied 4


Holmstrom, Tomas, Det. 5 8
Gagne, Simon, Phi. 6 7
Hlinka, Jaroslav, Colo 6 7
Hudler, Jiri, Det. 6 7
Jokinen, Jussi, Dal. 6 7
Pavelski, Joe, S.J. 6 7
Roy, Derek, Buf. 5 7
4 tied 6

Roy, Derek, Buf. 5 6 7 13
*Conner, Chris, Dal. 5 3 6 9
Datsyuk, Pavel, Det. 5 4 5 9
Gagne, Simon, Phi. 6 2 7 9
Pavelski, Joe, S.J. 6 2 7 9
Spezza, Jason, Ott. 5 4 5 9
Stastny, Paul, Colo 5 5 4 9
Gionta, Brian, N.J. 5 4 4 8
Heatley, Dany, Ott. 5 2 6 8
Holmstrom, Tomas, Det. 5 0 8 8
Samuelsson, Mikael, Det. 5 2 6 8
Zubov, Sergei, Dal. 4 3 5 8
16 tied 7


*Setoguchi, Devin, S.J. 4 5
Datsyuk, Pavel, Det. 3 3
Parise, Zach, N.J. 4 3
Plekanec, Tomas, Mtl. 2 3
Zubov, Sergei, Dal. 3 3
27 tied 2


30 tied 1

*Setoguchi, Devin, S.J. 7 27
Steen, Alexander, Tor. 6 25
Gagne, Simon, Phi. 6 24
Jokinen, Olli, Fla. 5 24
*Hanzal, Martin, Pho. 7 23
Shannon, Ryan, Van. 6 22
Aucoin, Adrian, Cgy. 6 21
Samuelsson, Mikael, Det. 5 21
Sharp, Patrick, Chi. 5 21
2 tied 20


*Tuma, Martin, Fla. 1 1 0 ---
11 tied 100.0


Orr, Colton, NYR 5 50
*Boll, Jared, ClBJ 6 47
Boulerice, Jesse, Phi. 6 47
*Cote, Riley, Phi. 6 42
Burrows, Alexandre, Van. 5 41
*Newbury, Kris, Tor. 7 41
*Sestito, Tommy, ClBJ 5 39
Brennan, Kip, NYI 5 36
*McIver, Nathan, Van. 5 36
*Grigorenko, Igor, Det. 7 35


Doyle, Frank, N.J. 2 40 0 0.00
Ellis, Dan, Nsh. 3 91 1 0.66
Ward, Cam, Car. 3 156 2 0.77
Anderson, Craig, Fla. 3 150 2 0.80
*Hiller, Jonas, Ana. 4 183 3 0.98
Brodeur, Martin, N.J. 3 160 3 1.13
Johnson, Brent, Was. 3 158 3 1.14
Hasek, Dominik, Det. 4 190 4 1.26
Nabokov, Evgeni, S.J. 3 185 4 1.30
Biron, Martin, Phi. 5 259 6 1.39


Doyle, Frank, N.J. 2 19 0 100.0
Ellis, Dan, Nsh. 3 42 1 97.6
Anderson, Craig, Fla. 3 71 2 97.2
Ward, Cam, Car. 3 68 2 97.1
*Hiller, Jonas, Ana. 4 88 3 96.6
Biron, Martin, Phi. 5 117 6 94.9
Brodeur, Martin, N.J. 3 54 3 94.4
Johnson, Brent, Was. 3 51 3 94.1
Gerber, Martin, Ott. 6 170 11 93.5
Nabokov, Evgeni, S.J. 3 60 4 93.3


Anderson, Craig, Fla. 3 1
Backstrom, Niklas, Min. 4 1
Gerber, Martin, Ott. 6 1
Grahame, John, Car. 3 1
*Greiss, Thomas, S.J. 2 1
Hasek, Dominik, Det. 4 1
*Hiller, Jonas, Ana. 4 1
Lehtonen, Kari, Atl. 2 1
Norrena, Fredrik, ClBJ 2 1
Ward, Cam, Car. 3 1


09-30-2007, 02:12 PM
Hey 24, I hope you guys enjoy Cammalleri this year and next year because you will not be able to resign him. Looks like his performance last year was not a fluke. He has 3 goals already on the season and almost had another one just a few mins ago. Still half the third period to go.

09-30-2007, 02:15 PM
Hey 24, I hope you guys enjoy Cammalleri this year and next year because you will not be able to resign him. Looks like his performance last year was not a fluke. He has 3 goals already on the season and almost had another one just a few mins ago. Still half the third period to go.

Cammalleri for Malkin (e4)


10-01-2007, 04:02 AM
Very nice games in London there 24CB. I knew Kings would be better this year and they showed that their youth is right up there. Ducks missing some major pieces and the first game was evident on the fact they needed some offensive help in PP scoring since Selanne being "undecided" on his future. Split seemed right as they battle in OC/LA all the time anyways. Anyone think Versus will continue with NHL once the contract is up? I heard they have the option for next year (or 3 years) if they use the option sometime in the next few months.

10-01-2007, 08:26 AM

September 30, 2007 -- THE Garden's lawsuit against the NHL al leging antitrust vio lations and charging the league is acting as an "illegal cartel" by attempting to seize control of individual teams' marketing operations is not only an extraordinary measure unto itself, it represents the first public evidence of the schisms evolving within the Board of Governors and that are threatening Gary Bettman's reign as commissioner.
Make no mistake. After supporting Bettman and the Board on issues contrary to their own self-interests such as the hard salary cap, revenue sharing, and cancellation of the 2004-05 season, the Rangers are no longer amenable to ceding control of their business to Sixth Avenue, and neither are a growing number of the big-market teams who carry the league on their backs.
These clubs may support Bettman's lowest-common-denominator approach to competition on the ice, but they most certainly do not support Sixth Avenue's concept of parity when applied to individual bottom lines. Slap Shots has obtained a copy of a letter Garden CEO Jim Dolan sent by fax to the 29 other NHL owners Friday night. While affirming respect for the league Governors, Dolan leaves no doubt he not only is engaging the NHL in a philosophical battle, but is challenging the league's competence in generating revenues and growing the game.
"We know that many of us have sought the League's support on business matters from time to time, but we fundamentally object to forced consolidation of core club rights in the League's hands," Dolan wrote. "Key among our concerns has been the NHL's new media plan and the takeover of all club Web sites.
"We have repeatedly expressed our belief that individual clubs could achieve the same or better results by entering the new media business on their own terms, rather than being mandated to submit to a league-wide initiative. Moreover, the NHL's projection of revenues and implementation of this plan has been flawed - the June projected results were already $12.6 million behind plan for the first two years, even after reducing spending by $2.7 million."
Prior to the lockout, individual clubs accounted for 91 percent the NHL's total revenue for 2003-04. Now, after two seasons under a hard cap in which a defined percentage of the league's hockey-related revenues goes to the players, the NHL office generates 7 percent - 7 percent! - of total revenues through its media and merchandising deals, according to Dolan.
According to one source, the NHL projects revenue of merely $4 million through European enterprises this season, that compared to the approximately $125 million the NBA is believed to generate from its international endeavors. Despite a player base that's greater than 30 percent European, the NHL has failed to take any meaningful initiatives regarding globalization, just as it has failed to take any meaningful economic initiatives at all - other than redesigning its clubs' uniforms to capitalize on retail sales, that is.
"After sacrificing a season to set our player cost economics on a proper footing, we believe that the League continues to squander opportunities to improve our business and solidify and grow our fan base," Dolan wrote. "The proper focus for the league is the growth of interest in the game as a whole, both in North America and internationally - and we support that focus.
"The League cannot be permitted, however, to accumulate team assets in the League office, growing centralized revenues at the expense of the clubs. Hockey is a distinctly regional game - unlike other leagues, most of hockey's revenue is generated locally - 93 percent of our revenues as a league are local.
"The League's continued efforts to take over club rights hurt each of us by taking away our ability to be responsive to our fans and react to changing business opportunities or events."
The lawsuit and Dolan's letter both cite $200,000 in fines the Rangers were assessed ($100,000 per day) during the playoffs for implementing revenue-generating initiatives on their Web site including merchandise sales, virtual signage insertion, and limited in-marketing streaming of home games. The fines allegedly were imposed despite the Rangers' belief they'd been granted permission by Bettman to implement those programs on a test basis.
NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly declined comment when contacted yesterday by Slap Shots via e-mail.
"We will [respond] at the appropriate time and in the appropriate forum," Daly wrote.
Slap Shots also has been told that while Bettman had been granted previous authority by the Board to proceed with the league's business plan, the commissioner has proceeded to implement and expand the plan without the necessary vote that would allow him to do so.
But Bettman, beginning with the lockout, is accustomed to getting his own way. He and the NHL have developed their own method of dealing with their partners. In a word, it's called "dictating."
The NHL is unable or unwilling to generate revenues on a national or international scale. As such, the league now intends to siphon unique club revenues into its Sixth Avenue pot, the better to divvy up, don't you see? Dolan sees. And he, the Garden and Rangers don't intend to stand for it. "We can no longer stand by idly and let the League continue to impair our rights, force us to ignore proper growth opportunities and attempt to make us submit to central control and cede our right to compete individually," Dolan wrote in closing. "I welcome the opportunity to discuss our position with you directly."

10-02-2007, 03:55 PM
preds sale in jeopardy (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=219701&hubname=nhl)

It appears the future of the Predators in Nashville is in doubt once again.

According to Nashville website tennessean.com, the leader of a local group attempting to purchase the team does not expect the deal to go through.

On Saturday, the group asked local government officials for more tax money as well as improvements to the Sommet Center, the home of the Predators. According to David Freeman, the city rejected their request.

''No, I'm not hopeful, but also not bitter,'' David Freeman told tenneseean.com. ''We put a ton of work into it, and we did our best.''

The group's exclusive negotiating deal with current Predators owner Craig Leipold expires on October 31.

The report indicates the group asked for nine changes to the lease agreement, including allowing the team to keep almost all state and local taxes as well as seat fees from all events at the arena and letting the team leave Nashville if average attendance falls below the league minimum for revenue sharing, which is 14,000 right now and the group loses $20 million.

Despite the setback, Freeman expressed no ill will toward Nashville mayor Karl Dean.

"I know he was probably as heartbroken as anybody over having to say no," Freeman told the tenneseean.com. "This decision appears to have not turned out the way we had hoped."

what do you guys think kc or hamilton ? seeing where im from i bet you know what im hoping for, but id be interested to here what unbiased people think.

10-02-2007, 06:58 PM
what do you guys think kc or hamilton ? seeing where im from i bet you know what im hoping for, but id be interested to here what unbiased people think.

Actually I am biased because Hockey IS Life in Canada. I've been to Canada (Toronto specifically) and you won't find more hockey nuts anywhere else on this planet. So my vote goes to Hamilton obviously, I mean they already were selling season tickets before there was a team in place there! KC while they have a nice arena and all, they won't care about hockey.

10-02-2007, 07:04 PM
Check this out...


Mo' Mailbag


Kyle Calder has looked like a genius signing so far. And while the Kings have a long way to go, you omitted one of the most exciting and intriguing stories of the preseason -- 19-year-old rookie and 2006 first-round draft pick Jonathan Bernier. He has looked like a cagey vet in camp and preseason games and has impressed in every start. In fact, he has played so well, he has virtually forced the team to keep him in L.A. at least until he gets his nine starts. I expect Bernier to excel and become the next Rogie Vachon in L.A. (maybe he'll even take up cigars and the porn mustache like Rogie), something Kings fans have been waiting nearly 30 years for. Write it down now, you will be the first in the media to say it, and you will look like a genius. Jack Johnson is good, but Bernier will be the Kings' Calder Trophy winner this season.

Peace, some of Marc Crawford's hair grease and a healthy dose of 3 Inches Of Blood's "Fire Up The Blades!"

Jeremy in San Diego

This is from Dobber's Fantasy Prospect Report released in June:

All you need to know about Bernier is that the organization fully expects him to be its starter within three years. For a 19-year-old, that's huge. That's Luongo territory. The 11th overall pick in 2006 shows a lot of maturity and has excellent composure. He is quick moving from one side of the net to the other and his catlike reflexes make that talent even more impressive. Bernier also shows consistency, which is usually the main weakness in goalies his age. By the summer of 2008 he could very well be the most hyped prospect goalie in over a decade. Potential: All-Star goaltender who steals games and seems destined to win a Cup or two.

BerniernextRoy approves of Bucci's response.:thumbsup:

10-03-2007, 07:20 PM


TV Information
Local start: 7:30 PM

National TV:

Mike Madona will almost certainly be a first-ballot Hall of Famer after his playing career ends. Sometime early this season, he will bolster his impressive credentials even further.

Modano tries to move closer to becoming the all-time leading scorer among American-born players, and the Dallas Stars look to extend a pair of impressive streaks when they meet the Colorado Avalanche in the teams' season opener Wednesday night at the Pepsi Center.

Dallas will be looking for its eighth straight win over Colorado since Oct. 8, 2005. The Stars also own the longest active undefeated streak in season openers, going 7-0-3 since 1996.

Modano begins his 18th season with 507 goals and 719 assists for 1,226 points, leaving him seven shy of passing Phil Housley, the leader among U.S.-born players. The top overall pick by the Minnesota North Stars in 1988, Modano is the franchise's career leader in most offensive categories.

"If anyone deserves the record, it's Mike Modano," said Housley, who played with eight teams during his 21-year career.

On March 17, Modano scored twice in a 3-2 loss to Nashville to pass Hall of Famer Joe Mullen and become the all-time leading American goal scorer. Mullen had 502 goals over 16 seasons.

"The American records are definitely something I am very proud of," Modano told the Stars' official Web site. "It's very special that I've played my entire career with the Stars. Dallas fans have been very good to me and I love living here."

Modano, a Michigan native, has averaged a point per game against the Avalanche, with 25 goals and 29 assists in 54 contests.

Marty Turco, the Stars' career wins leader with 175, will be back in net to begin his seventh season with Dallas. Turco was fourth in the league with a 2.23 goals-against average last season, but the Stars faltered again in the playoffs and were eliminated in the first round for the third consecutive season.

Turco is 9-4-3 with a 2.52 GAA in 19 games against Colorado.

Despite totaling 95 points, Colorado fell one point shy of reaching the playoffs for the 11th straight season after relocating from Quebec in 1995.

At the urging of general manager Francois Giguere, longtime Colorado captain Joe Sakic made a couple of phone calls at the start of the free agency period to do some recruiting. The Avalanche ended up with two of the bigger names on the market in Ryan Smyth and Scott Hannan.

The Avs gave Smyth - a left wing formerly with the New York Islanders, but more well known for his 11-plus seasons with Edmonton - a five-year deal worth more than $31 million. That came after the team signed Hannan, a former San Jose defenseman, for $18 million over four years.

"With the (salary) cap going up so much, you had a lot of teams out there looking at those guys," Giguere said. "To get two was unbelievable. Both Scott and Ryan bring a lot of what we're looking for."

Smyth is an eight-time 20-goal scorer, and needs 30 for 300 in his career. Hannan, 6-foot-1 and 225 pounds, is considered one of the league's most physical players.

Sakic will be starting his 19th season, all with the Avalanche franchise, and is also coming up on a milestone. With 1,589 points, he needs two to move past Phil Esposito into eighth place all-time.

Colorado is 7-2-3 in season openers at home. Dallas is 4-7-8 when opening on the road.

10-03-2007, 07:52 PM
to rub elbows with the blogger elite such as Jes Gőlbez of hockey rants...


Avalanche Blogger Roundtable
by Greg

After the off-season arrivals of Ryan Smyth and Scott Hannan, and departures of Pierre Turgeon and Patrice Brisebois, there's a renewed sense of optimism in Avalanche-land. It's morning in America, to coin a phrase.

They missed the playoffs last year; it's widely predicted they won't again (for a non-Avs fan perspective, Jes has a preview up at AOL Fanhouse, ).

A group of Avalanche bloggers have assembled, meanwhile, to discuss the season -- for the first ever...


The full table of contents is up at Mile High Hockey. Over here, we're hosting question #5:

5. What happens if the Avalanche are under .500 mid-way through the season?

Mike @ BBnR (Bleu, Blanc et Rouge) -- If the Avs are below .500 at the midpoint, Coach Q. will be handed his walking papers. Hundreds of 14-year-olds on the Avs message boards suddenly declare that they never liked his 'style' anyway. Now the obvious choice for his replacement is Granato, but in a startling announcement, Super Joe pulls a Reg Dunlop and becomes a player/coach. Not wanting to miss out on a good idea, the Rangers make Shanny a player/coach also. However, Shanny decides to take it to the next level and play without a helmet. He's killed by an errant Scottie Upshall elbow in the first game against Philly. The hockey world mourns, Jagr wets himself, and Chris Drury assumes the captaincy of the Rangers. The Avs squeak into the playoffs as the 8th seed and get swept by the Defending Stanley Cup Ducks as Scotty Nieds, ala Bottle-Rocket Clemens, comes out of retirement just for the playoffs.

Draft Dodger (In the Cheap Seats and Mile High Hockey) -- There's little doubt in my mind that coach Quenneville will be fired if the team is struggling. If (and only if) the struggles are related to poor goaltending, I could see Giguere opening up the proverbial "cubbard" to move a prospect or two for a goalie the team can count on. Beyond that, I wouldn't expect a full-scale panic from the organization; they've got a solid foundation and won't sacrifice our future for short-term improvements.

Jibblescribbits (Jibblescribbits) -- If the Avs are under .500, unless Budaj has played spectacular and it hasn't been his fault at all, I think Giguere will try and make a deal to bring Bryzgolov in from Anaheim. Even if it's not Budaj's fault, he'll do it for the shot in the arm that they need. The only other
option they may have, and it's truly scary to even think about it at all, is to put Theo in net and hope he catches lightning in a bottle. I hate to say it, I really hate to say it, but under .500 at mid-season (when it's nearly impossible to be under .500 in this scoring system) means the best thing to hope for would be that Theo catches lightning in a bottle, and you can trade him out for some prospect, any
prospect, in the off-season.

Tapeleg (Jerseys and Hockey Love) -- Not.



But if it did, I don't see much changing. I think Coach Q will stay in place, no matter what the season is like. If they miss the playoffs, he's gone, but not before. Granato will not be given his shot as a Head Coach in Colorado, and if he wants that as a career, he is going to have to go elsewhere.

I would love to see a Bryzgolov move, but so would half the league. I don't think he will be available by the halfway point, either traded to a team, or the Ducks realize they need him.

Also, if the Avs are below .500, I may cry. May. A man cry, but still.

Justin (Avalanche Guild) -- Due to the fact that I am extremely superstitious (I'm a goalie - enough said), I will not be answering this question.

Joe (Mile High Hockey) --
If the Avalanche are under .500 mid-way through the season, it will be because Joe Sakic had a heart attack, Scott Hannan was forced to shave his head, Ryan Smyth got traded to the Islanders (again), Andrew Brunette skated so slow he actually reversed the time-space continuum and Paul Stastny defected to the Czech Republic.

Only then would it be possible for the Avs to be below .500 mid-way through the season.

Greg (Hockey Rants and the Post-Pessimist Association) -- Another thing I don't really see happening; it would take a pretty big meltdown for them to be below .500. If they are? New coach, new goalie (unless it's a case of Budaj playing spectacularly behind a porous defense/no scoring).

Jori (Avs Prospects) -- Should the Avs have a sluggish first half, Francois Giguere will have a tough decision to make. The last two seasons for the Colorado Avalanche can be described as transition years as the team struggled to adjust to the salary cap. Expectations are high for this team, but I'm not convinced Quenneville will be fired if they get off to a slow start. I view Giguere as a patient man and he may be willing to let the team work through their problems. However, Giguere could make a transaction. I hear there is some guy named Forsberg who might be willing to join a team sometime during the season. Perhaps he could give the Avs a needed boost.

Shane (Avs Talk) -- Not gonna happen. But if it does, it will depend on what the root cause is. If the team isn't gelling, Q could get heaved. If Budaj and Theodore are both sucking wind, Weiman will get brought in to give them a wakeup call. And if it's due to a string of injuries, then the trainer will get fired.

Ok, the last one is in jest but so is the question, don't you think? ;)

* * *

There's seven more of these questions out there -- check out the above blog links, or head on back to Mile High Hockey to see the rest.

Labels: avalanche

10-03-2007, 08:36 PM
Leave steve downie alone!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9UTy0TbKIQ)


10-03-2007, 08:48 PM
This just looks weird

Kid A
10-03-2007, 10:32 PM
Stastney is off to a good start tonight. 2 goals, 2-0 avs in the second.

10-03-2007, 10:37 PM
This just looks weird

Ah so thats why the Rangers overpaid for them, to bring in some fan support from the Gay community in NY.Ha!

10-03-2007, 10:48 PM
Stastny with a hat trick.

3-1, Colorado.

10-03-2007, 10:49 PM
Stastney is off to a good start tonight. 2 goals, 2-0 avs in the second.

Is the game on TV tonight? I have DirectTV and have run through everything and haven't found it.

10-03-2007, 10:51 PM
Is the game on TV tonight? I have DirectTV and have run through everything and haven't found it.

its on vs.

10-03-2007, 11:13 PM
its on vs.

prefer the term versuck.

Smiling Assassin27
10-04-2007, 10:09 AM
man, i'm already looking forward to the high scoring avs versus the lock down wings for the western conference...

10-04-2007, 06:52 PM
NHL play of the night (http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/play_of_the_night/)

10-04-2007, 09:17 PM
Drury scores in his first game with the rangers...

10-04-2007, 11:16 PM on port 3128

give that a try

you can watch the flyers vs flames on cbc right now using the canadian proxy i posted earlier

10-05-2007, 10:31 PM
Bernier gets the start tommorow vs the Blues.

Crawford on Bernier per Hammonds Blog-
`Anything that's been thrown at him here, whether it's been media notoriety or outings we've had for the team whether in Europe or here, it's had a high-profile professional aura to it. A lot of times, you see young players be in awe of that. He's not in awe. He's respectful and he's just enjoying it. It's hard to put a finger on exactly what it is, but he's got it. He's handled it really well. He's got a great ability to keep himself centered, and I think that's how he plays too. He's got an economy of movement, a real strong foundation to his game and he's anchored to the middle of that net really well.''

``We're trying to help him as much as we can, giving him as much information, staying pretty close to him on his work habits in practice, his recovery after practice, even to the point of his eating habits and sleeping habits. We're doing our due diligence too to make sure a young player isn't missing something along the way.''


Hercules Rockefeller
10-05-2007, 10:37 PM
Caps open the season with a win, 3-1. Newcomers Kozlov and Nylander get goals, with Backstrom getting his first career point.

10-06-2007, 12:01 PM
Chris Drury and Daniel Briere had strong debuts with their new teams, and Chris Mason and Niklas Backstrom were perfect in their first games as starting goalies.

Drury's first goal in a Rangers uniform snapped a third-period tie and sparked a late outburst that carried New York to a 5-2 victory over the Florida Panthers on Thursday night.

Drury, signed this summer after helping Buffalo eliminate the Rangers in the second round of the playoffs, put in a rebound of Jaromir Jagr's shot 8:46 into the third period to give New York a 3-2 lead and spark an outburst of three goals in a little more than four minutes. It was Drury's 38th winning goal in the regular season, and 53rd counting the playoffs.

"Same answer I always give: right place at the right time," Drury said.

Drury's former Sabres teammate Briere scored his first two goals for Philadelphia to help the Flyers beat Calgary 3-2, spoiling Mike Keenan's coaching debut with the Flames. Briere connected on the game-winner with 1:48 left.

"It was pretty cool, but it's not just about me," Briere said. "It's about the team, but there's no doubt that personally it feels great to help your team and doing your part for a big win like tonight."

Mason, given Nashville's No. 1 goaltending spot after Tomas Vokoun was traded to Florida in the offseason, made 35 saves for his ninth career shutout in the Predators' 4-0 victory over Colorado.
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"I really wanted to make a statement and hopefully I did that," Mason said. "Getting a shutout was as good as I could have hoped for. But this is only one game. I want to show everyone that I can do this throughout the season."

Backstrom stopped 27 shots in Minnesota's 1-0 win over Chicago for his sixth career shutout.

In other NHL games Thursday night, it was: Ottawa 3, Toronto 2; Tampa Bay 3, New Jersey 1; Phoenix 3, St. Louis 2; and Edmonton 3, San Jose 2 in a shootout.

In New York, Petr Prucha, Ryan Callahan and Martin Straka also scored in the third period as the Rangers turned a 2-1 deficit into a rousing victory. Marek Malik assisted on three of the final-period tallies, and Jagr and Drury finished with two assists apiece. Michal Rozsival also scored for the Rangers.

Brett McLean and Nathan Horton scored second-period goals for the Panthers. Vokoun made 20 saves in his Florida debut, and Henrik Lundqvist stopped 27 shots for the Rangers.

At Calgary, Alberta, Mike Knuble and Briere scored in the first period to give the Flyers a 2-0 lead. The Flames tied the game on a pair of goals from Daymond Langkow.

"It's a tough way to lose but we have to look at ourselves and know that we can't spot teams a lead like that and have a start like that," Flames captain Jarome Iginla said.

Martin Biron made 24 saves for the Flyers while Miikka Kiprusoff made 23 saves for the Flames.

At Nashville, Tenn., the line of Jason Arnott, J.P Dumont and Vernon Fiddler accounted for three goals and three assists for the Predators. Arnott had two goals and an assist, Dumont had a goal and an assist and Fiddler added one assist.

"We got a few things rolling in preseason and it has carried over into the regular season," Arnott said. "I played with J.P last year so I move extremely well with him. Fiddler is the new guy and works so hard out there. A lot of people don't know how skilled he is."

Tyler Weiman scored Nashville's fourth goal.

At St. Paul, Minn., Pierre-Marc Bouchard scored the only goal in support of Backstrom, who was given a two-year, $6.2 million contract in June that led the team to deal Manny Fernandez to Boston.

In his first game under the burden of the big money and the starting job, Backstrom was just as sharp and calm as when he was a 29-year-old rookie who helped the Wild make the playoffs for the second time in franchise history. He didn't give up many rebounds and didn't budge when the Blackhawks had a brief 5-on-3 midway through the second period.

"It's easier when you don't have to think too much," Backstrom said.

Chicago's Nikolai Khabibulin stopped 23 shots.

Daniel Alfredsson's scored twice, including the game-winner on a power play with 4:59 remaining, to lift host Ottawa.

Dany Heatley also scored for the Senators, and Mats Sundin and Matt Stajan scored goals 32 seconds apart in the second period for Toronto.

Vincent Lecavalier scored twice, including a tiebreaking goal with 3:52 left in the third, spoiling Brent Sutter's debut as visiting New Jersey's coach.

Vinny Prospal had an empty-netter with 58 seconds left for the Lightning, Martin St. Louis had three assists and Johan Holmqvist stopped 26 shots.

Brian Gionta scored for the Devils and Martin Brodeur made 21 saves.

Jarret Stoll scored in the shootout for host Edmonton after San Jose's Joe Thornton scored the tying goal on a power play with 11 seconds left in regulation.

Tom Gilbert and Kyle Brodziak scored in regulation for the Oilers, and Patrick Marleau had San Jose's other goal.

Rookie Daniel Winnik's first NHL goal, at 7:30 of the third period, stretched host Phoenix's lead to 3-0 and stood as the game-winner.

Keith Tkachuk and Brad Boyce scored late in the third to pull the Blues to 3-2, but the Coyotes hung on.

Keith Ballard and Mike York also scored for Phoenix.

10-06-2007, 12:17 PM
Hmmmm they didn't have our back through the lockout and dropped the NHL like a turd and you give yet another shot that they don't deserve.


Q: What do you see ahead as far as TV deals?

A: We have great partnerships with NBC and [cable network] Versus. ... There have been reports that ESPN is interested in us. ... I do believe our current partners will be in the picture long-term. Whether or not there is an opportunity to have another partner is something we’re always open to looking at.

10-06-2007, 01:54 PM
Hmmmm they didn't have our back through the lockout and dropped the NHL like a turd and you give yet another shot that they don't deserve.

It's all about marketing baby! ESPN would give the NHL the coverage it needs. Doesn't need to televise the majority of the games, but at least televise some of the games. I mean do you remember the coverage they would put on the Avalanche and Red Wings games? They couldn't get enough of that series. Besides I am a little biased, we need more Barry Melrose! Ha!

10-07-2007, 07:36 PM
Joe sakic just moved past bobby hull and phil Esposito with a goal and an asst for a total of 1,591 vs the sharks.

10-09-2007, 06:41 PM
Q. It’s always hard to predict how a young player coming out of U.S. college makes the adjustment to the NHL. Some take a long time and some take a very short period of time. Can you pinpoint why there doesn’t seem to have been the steep learning curve that some young players have had, why it seems to have gone so relatively smoothly for you?

PAUL STASTNY: I don’t know if it was quick. But I was in college for two years. And so when I came up, I was already 20, 21. Pretty mature for my age, and it was easier for me, maybe because I was a little smarter. Some of the things you can’t teach I got from my dad. Playing with better players I think makes it a lot easier for me, just knowing that you can give and go. They think the way I do and it makes it that much easier.

Q. Last year, during the spring, the Niedermayer brothers talked about how much they enjoyed playing together and winning the Stanley Cup together, and both your father and uncles had a chance to play with each other. Do you speak to your brother about that in your hockey playing lives, to play together and have a chance to win a Stanley Cup together?

PAUL STASTNY: We talked about that growing up. I think we’re both trying to battle for jobs in the NHL and hopefully one day if we’re both fortunate our paths might cross. I think the two happiest people would be our parents besides me and my brother. But that’s the only thing we’ve talked about. Can’t really predict or look forward to that because you never know if it’s going to happen.

Q. You’re playing for basically the same franchise that your father played for. Do you have any memories of Quebec and when you were growing up?

PAUL STASTNY: Yeah, not too much. Not hockey specifically. I remember growing up, the cold winters and playing on the ponds right across the street from where we lived, going to the rink, just me and my brother. Obviously it was fond memories. Then when I went back there for the Quebec Peewee tournament, it really showed up. My dad was there.

Q. Do you remember how old you were when you started to realize what hockey legends your dad and uncles were, any stories that stick out? And can you describe growing up in St. Louis with your brother and how competitive you were with each other?

PAUL STASTNY: As I got older, I think just from hearing from other people, obviously my dad and uncle are two humble guys. Just from hearing from other people how respected of a player my dad and uncles were, how good of players they were.

As you get older you start reading stuff and seeing more highlights. I was probably 15, 16, right around there, when hockey started getting serious. Growing up in St. Louis, I think it’s changed from the moment ? from day one from when I’ve been there the last 12, 13 years hockey has been growing big. Me and my brother have been best friends and working out and doing everything side by side for the last seven, eight summers. One big reason I’m here is we compete against each other and we’re always trying to do what we can to help each other out.

Q. I think there’s a sense around the league that last few guys have scored a lot of goals, but this year you might be more dynamic. Is there a sense around the team that you’re the sort of team that is capable where no lead will be safe, that you have the ability to get four goals a game?

PAUL STASTNY: I think we’re just ? we can’t think like that, because when we do that’s when we end up getting in trouble, we’re playing the high and taking too many chances. We’re focused on playing defense. And like you said, with the players we’ve added offensively, we know we can score. If we’re playing a tight game or open up game, I think we’re comfortable playing both ways.

Q. How has the attitude in the dressing room changed from last year to this year? Is there a sense that this team has all the tools necessary to make a real serious run at the Cup?

PAUL STASTNY: I don’t know. I think it’s a lot similar to the way it ended last year with the run we went on. And it’s a loose atmosphere. And obviously it’s well ran by the coaches down to our captains leading the way.

Obviously we’re having fun out there, and we’re working hard. But I think when it comes game?wise we’re just trying to focus one game at a time instead of looking forward to halfway down the year or next couple of games. I think we’re taking it one at a time. We put ourselves in a better position once the season rolls around.

Q. Playing in the WCHA, what did that do to prepare you for the National Hockey League and playing now with the Avalanche?

PAUL STASTNY: I think WCHA was really good for me, big stepping stone to where I am now. Just obviously it shows ? obviously when I was there it was top?end competition all around, from the first place team to the 10th place team. It’s starting to show more and more now with more guys leaving school early. And I think it’s getting the respect that maybe it finally deserves.

Q. On that team you’ve got a future Hall of Famer in Joe Sakic, can you talk about what kind of a mentor he’s been to you, if in any way he has been?

PAUL STASTNY: Yeah, I think he’s been good. He’s a quiet guy. I think once you get to know him he opens up. If I ever needed little questions, small questions answered, he’s always there to help me.

Obviously he’s making sure I’m having fun out there, always saying little jokes about my old man when they played together. But I think it’s more of you just watch the way he presents himself the way he is on and off the ice and you learn more from that than just asking him questions.

Q. You were born in Quebec, raised in St. Louis. There was a story that was making the rounds in the spring that because you hadn’t plate internationally for either Canada or U.S. you were sort of an international free agent, and then ultimately opted to play for the U.S. So I guess my question is, one, was that true that you had a choice? And, two, if so, why did you decide to play for the Americans?

PAUL STASTNY: I could play either one so I didn’t play many IHF competitions. But I think I had maybe a better opportunity or I think the U.S. wanted me and maybe looking to the future, my brother already played for the U.S. So like you said it’s always a dream of ours to play together and maybe one day we’ll play together in an international event like that. But obviously they gave me an opportunity and you can never turn that down.

Q. Can you talk about how intense it was as you approached the streak last year, the record?

PAUL STASTNY: (Chuckling) it wasn’t too bad until I got to 13, 14 games. And then I didn’t even think about it then I started hearing about it all the time.

I think it wasn’t something I was worried about, just because we kept winning it made it that much easier. Obviously when your team is winning and you’re having fun, I think everything was rolling smoothly there. Obviously no one on my team or in this organization gave me added pressure. So I think it was something that was maybe a little easier said than it actually appeared.

Q. Obviously you had all summer to think about how your sophomore season would get kicked off. It’s been a great start for you. Can you talk about how good it feels to pick up where you left off?

PAUL STASTNY: It’s always good to know you get a good start to the season. Always in the past I’ve been a slow starter, but obviously you adapt and you learn ? I learned a lot last year, and I train a lot harder this summer thinking this year would be a lot harder than last year. Not everyone knows you. You can’t get away with little things anymore. I think I prepared myself pretty well this summer.

10-09-2007, 06:44 PM

"This morning I shared with my teammates news that I was diagnosed with Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia," Blake said on the team's website.

"It is highly-treatable, and I have begun taking a pill on a daily basis that has proven to be very effective in controlling this cancer. The prognosis, and certainly the expectations of my physician, myself and my family, is that I will live a long, full and normal life. This situation will not impact my ability to live my life as I otherwise would, and will not affect my ability to perform at my highest level for the Toronto Maple Leafs. I'm looking forward to my first season with the Leafs and helping our club compete for the Stanley Cup."

Chronic myelogenous leukemia (CML) is an uncommon type of cancer of the blood cells.
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It's considered chronic leukemia because it usually progresses more slowly than acute leukemia, sometimes over the course of years.

CML is not a solid tumor that can be surgically removed, but the prognosis for people with chronic myelogenous leukemia may be improving because of new medications to treat the condition.

"When you find out that you have something it's definitely shattering to your whole family and so on," Blake said after practice.

"Overall I feel good. I'm still here and my goal this whole season hasn't changed. Obviously you take a step back and you kind of re-evaluate everything but for the most part I feel good. I think to get it off my chest and to move forward is a big weight lifted."

Although a bone marrow transplant may still be an option, many people with chronic myelogenous leukemia are able to manage their condition long term with the use of chemotherapy-like pills.

The team added after Monday's practice that they will be mindful of his condition.

"Jason will be able to continue to play fully with the team and will be monitored closely by both the team's physician and his CML specialist," team doctor Noah Forman said.

It's the second time that Blake's family has been affected by cancer.

In March of 2001, Blake's wife, Sara - eight months pregnant with their first child - was told by doctors that she had thyroid cancer. Blake left the team to be with her, and Lauren Blake was born March 20 after Sara underwent an emergency Caesarean section.

Sara had a portion of her thyroid removed without complications shortly afterwards, and the lump that was removed was determined not to be cancerous.

Toronto signed Jason Blake to a $20 million, five-year contract on July 1.

The four-time 20-goal scorer finished with career highs in goals and points (69) while playing all 82 games with the New York Islanders last season.

10-09-2007, 09:46 PM
Boooing during a moment of silence for bill Wirtz..

Classy chicago (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEHxmxXDhhM)

10-09-2007, 10:04 PM
10 rookies to keep an eyeball on this year...

1) Andrew Cogliano, Edmonton, C. —The 25th pick overall in the 2005 draft, Cogliano played college hockey last season at Michigan, and picked up 28 points in 39 games. He is a bit small (5-10/185), but his speed and skill level, combined with the Oil's dire need for offense, won him a roster spot. He led all rookies in scoring (1-2--3) through the first weekend.

2) Erik Johnson, St. Louis, D. — The Bloomington (MN)-born backliner, picked No. 1 overall in '06, came to camp a shoo-in after two seasons with the US Development Team program. He is big (6-feet-4/220) and considered a potential franchise-defenseman (in the way folks talked about Ray Bourque and Chris Pronger at the same age). He can hit. He can shoot. Perhaps just the cornerstone the Blues need to rebuild the franchise.

3) Andrew Greene, New Jersey, D — Never a top college prospect in college (Miami, O), Green signed as a free agent in April 2006 and made his NHL debut last season, but still qualifies as a rookie. Though weekend No. 1, he led all rookies in average ice time (21:55) and in shots (8). A mobile puckhanlder, just what the Devs need in the wake of Brian Rafalski leaving as a free agent to Detroit.

4) Sam Gagner, Edmonton, C — Another Oiler on the rise, like Cogliano. Picked No. 6 overall in this June's draft, the son of former NHLer Dave Gagner. Excellent stick skills, he collected 83 points in 53 games last season with the London Knights (OHL), and at only age 18, figured to be headed back there this season. He picked up two assists in his first three games, and averaged 10:30 ice time. Looks like he's going nowhere but the Oil's dressing room.

5) Nicklas Backstrom, Washington, C — Much hype proceeded the Swedish born pivot, who was the No. 4 overall pick in the '06 draft. He has added about 20 pounds (now 6-0/203) since his draft day, and looks as though he will live up to the advanced billing. A slick puckhandler and distributor, he had only one shot in is first three games (0-2--2). If he ends up skating fulltime with Alexander Ovechkin, he'll know where to pass that puck.

6) Patrick Kane, Chicago, RW — He collected 145 points in only 58 games last season in London, where he was one of Gagner's teammates, and that led him to being picked No. 1 overall in the June draft. He went only 0-1--1 in his first two games wearing the Indian Head, but he popped home an OT shootout winner against the Wings, who had his boyhood idol, Dominik Hasek, in net. Buffalo born and raised, he was only 5-10/163 when selected, and will need to add some size and muscle — but he has a skill set similar to that of Sidney Crosby.

7) Jonathan Toews, Chicago, C — As noted above, injury delayed his debut, but the Winnipeg-born pivot should be a factor when he gets his game going. He picked up 39 points in 42 college games (No. Dakota) last season, and has the size (6-2/205), reach and legs to be a franchise centerman. Hawks fans imagine the magic that could come if he pairs up long term with Kane.

8) Carey Price, Montreal, G — GM Bob Gainey prevailed over coach Guy Carbonneau when it came time to decide whether Price remained with Habs or tutored in the minors for a while. Expectations are sky high for the 20-year-old, which was Carbonneau's concern. However, Price, selected No. 5 overall in the '05 draft, has been fulfilling similar expectations for years. He was last season's Canadian Major Junior goalie of the year, and is now 6-3/225. Yes, Dryden-like, if you are comparing.

9) Milan Lucic, Boston, LW — The MVP of the Memorial Cup with the Vancouver Giants, Lucic is a bruising winger who loves to bang and fight (always valued in the Boston market). His skating is challenged, which is why he dropped to 50th in the 2006 draft, but he impressed through camp and didn't disappoint in his first two NHL games. No guarantee that he will stick in Boston all season, but if he stays, he could keep surprising people — a lot of people.

10) Dan Carcillo, Phoenix, LW — If you are a little rusty in language skills, I think ''Carcillo'' is Italian for ''total pest''. Not sure, but it must be true after watching the 22-year-old agitator, who came to the Coyotes via last season's deal that sent pugilist Georges Laracque to Pittsburgh. Carcillo is in the Sean Avery-Darcy Tucker mold — one of those guys you only like if he's on your team.

10-10-2007, 04:16 PM
Why? (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071010.WBhockeyblog20071010141109/WBStory/WBhockeyblog/)

News that Kid Rock was given a Stanley Cup ring by Carolina Hurricanes owner Pete Karmanos, a fellow Detroit native, set off some discussion in the hockey world today.

On The Fan 590 in Toronto, John Garrett was appalled and rightly so that some pop star would get an exact replica of the ring given to the players when they won the 2006 Cup just because he’s a buddy of the owner. The Sportsnet commentator said his daughter got a ring when she was a staffer for the Tampa Bay Lightning when they won in 2004, but it was a much simpler model than the one given to the players.

“You think of all the former players and the sweat they put in trying to win a ring,” Garrett said. “The ring has to stand for something.”

After the Leafs finished practising, someone asked head coach Paul Maurice if he thought he should get a ring from Karmanos if Kid Rock deserved one. After all, Maurice was the long-time coach of the Hurricanes, starting out as coach of Karmanos’s Detroit Junior Red Wings.

Maurice is still a close friend of ‘Canes GM Jim Rutherford and he left the team on relatively good terms despite being fired in partway through the 2003-04 season.

“Are you serious?” Maurice asked his questioner. No, it wasn’t me, it was Steve Simmons from the Toronto Sun. Put Maurice down with Garrett.

“Wow, that’s the toughest question I’ve had since I’ve been here and the answer is no,” he said.


Defenceman Carlo Colaiacovo and centre Kyle Wellwood skated by themselves before yesterday’s Leaf practice. It was their first appearance on the ice since they were forced out with recovery problems from, respectively, knee surgery and sports hernia surgery.

But don’t expect them back any time soon to help their beleaguered temmates.

Maurice says Coloaiacovo reports his knee feels great but he could not say when he can start practicing at full speed with his teammates. Wellwood is even further away.

Don’t be surprised if Mark Bell, who can return from his 15-game NHL suspension on Nov. 6, is back in uniform before at least one of them.

10-10-2007, 04:35 PM
Well that didn't take long.....

DILLHOLE (http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ducks/la-sp-duckrep10oct10,1,7423103.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl-ducks&ctrack=1&cset=true)

Ducks winger Todd Bertuzzi is questionable for tonight's home opener against Boston because of a strained groin suffered in last week's loss to Columbus.

Bertuzzi said the groin continued to bother him Saturday night in Pittsburgh, which was probably the reason he logged only 14:04 of ice time and was largely ineffective.

"Like anyone else with a groin injury, it limits your strength and your skating," said Bertuzzi, who has a goal and an assist in five games. "Just came to a point where I couldn't go anymore."

Bertuzzi did not skate Tuesday, but he said he felt better. The original problem, he said, came in London, where he tweaked his knee and then hurt his groin while compensating for the knee.

"I'm going to come here hoping to play," he said. "I'll skate in the morning and see how it goes from there."

Bertuzzi, who has had back surgery and also suffered a cracked tailbone in the Western Conference finals while with Detroit, said this is the first time he has had a groin problem.

"I'm finding new injuries that I've never had before," he joked.

Center Andy McDonald returned to practice Tuesday after being with his wife, Gina, who delivered the couple's first child on Monday. Jake Gene McDonald checked in at 7 pounds, 5 ounces. . . . The Ducks sent center Ryan Carter to the Portland Pirates

10-10-2007, 04:45 PM
ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=3056051)

1. Randy Carlyle, Anaheim Ducks
Let's see. Two years as an NHL coach, one surprise trip to the Western Conference finals, one Stanley Cup championship. Any questions?

2. Lindy Ruff, Buffalo Sabres
Two years in a row Ruff has taken his Buffalo Sabres to the Eastern Conference finals. He'll have his hands full this season, but if anyone can get Buffalo over the hump after losing co-captains Chris Drury and Daniel Briere, it's Ruff.

3. Peter Laviolette, Carolina Hurricanes
The guy won a Stanley Cup two seasons ago playing a wildly exciting brand of hockey. He still gets top billing even if his squad fell off and out of the playoffs in 2006-07.

4. Michel Therrien, Pittsburgh Penguins
Tough as nails, Therrien defied critics who thought he wouldn't last a season under new GM Ray Shero by deftly handling youngsters Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin and especially rookie of the year candidate Jordan Staal. Now, he's got to prove he's the real deal by taking them far in the playoffs.

5. Alain Vigneault, Vancouver Canucks
We still don't know how Vigneault, the former Montreal Canadiens coach, managed to coax his team to the top of the Northwest Division and through the first round of the playoffs. The test is now to get them back.

6. Mike Babcock, Detroit Red Wings
The pressure was on Babcock and the Red Wings last season and he managed to get a much grittier effort out of his talented squad than many thought possible. If not for a bad bounce or two, they would have beaten the Ducks in the Western Conference finals. They should be back to the conference finals again.

7. Tom Renney, New York Rangers
Renney has done a splendid job with the Rangers, first getting them into the playoffs in 2005-06 when no one thought it was possible, and then following that with a trip to the second round and a tough series loss to Buffalo. He's also done a masterful job of getting enigmatic star Jaromir Jagr to buy in.

8. Ron Wilson, San Jose Sharks
Lofty playoff expectations haven't been met by the Sharks, but Wilson has seen his squad win at least one playoff round the last three postseasons.

9. John Tortorella, Tampa Bay Lightning
Two first-round exits since the end of the lockout, but Tortorella's Lightning made the playoffs in four straight seasons and won a Stanley Cup in 2004.

10. Andy Murray, St. Louis Blues
Murray, a stickler for details, wore out his welcome in Los Angeles, but he turned things around in record time in St. Louis last season. Now the challenge is to keep the Blues on track and guide them back to the postseason.

11. Jacques Lemaire, Minnesota Wild
Is Lemaire getting more than he should out of a Wild team that has yet to win a playoff round since 2003, or is he holding them back? Discuss among yourselves.

12. Ted Nolan, New York Islanders Guess Nolan really can coach after all. The former coach of the year gets blacklisted from the NHL for a decade, and then takes a bunch of underachievers and malcontents to the playoffs.

13. Ken Hitchcock, Columbus Blue Jackets
Hitchcock doesn't have much to work with yet in Columbus and his Flyers did struggle mightily out of the gate a season ago, which ultimately cost him his job. But Hitchcock is still one of the game's great coaching minds.

Andy Murray

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Andy Murray starts his first full season behind the bench with the St. Louis Blues.

14. Jacques Martin, Florida Panthers
Martin guided the Ottawa Senators to the playoffs for eight straight seasons, but his reputation is now on the line in Florida, where the pressure is on to make something out of a pile of young talent.

15. Craig MacTavish, Edmonton Oilers
Surely it wasn't a fluke that the eighth-seeded Edmonton Oilers advanced to the seventh game of the 2006 Stanley Cup finals. Or was it? This season will go a long way in answering that question.

16. Joel Quenneville, Colorado Avalanche
Quenneville's teams have never quite got over the hump. He'll get a chance to prove he can change that trend this season with a much-improved Avalanche team.

17. Dave Tippett, Dallas Stars
If you just considered Tippett's regular-season record, he'd be a top-10 coach every year. Unfortunately, the Stars' recent history of bowing out in the first round of the playoffs is what fans remember most about Tippett's teams in Dallas.

18. Barry Trotz, Nashville Predators
The same can be said for Trotz, who has evolved along with his team in Nashville. But three straight first-round playoff exits, followed by a denuding of the Preds' lineup thanks to its ownership situation, puts Trotz in an unenviable position.

19. Bob Hartley, Atlanta Thrashers
Seems like a long time ago when Hartley and his Colorado Avalanche were hoisting the Stanley Cup in June 2001. After getting swept in the first round last spring, the pressure is on Hartley to get the Thrashers deep into the postseason. He remains hamstrung by poor drafting and development in Atlanta.

20. Glen Hanlon, Washington Capitals
Hanlon hasn't had much to work with in Washington, but he's instilled an impressive work ethic in his troops. Now, he's got some more tools and it will be interesting to see how much more Hanlon can get out of his new-look Caps.

21. Paul Maurice, Toronto Maple Leafs
The cerebral and even-keeled Maurice failed in his first bid to get the Toronto Maple Leafs into the postseason. Chances are this will be his last chance in the center of the hockey universe.

22. Guy Carbonneau, Montreal Canadiens
Carbonneau couldn't get along with Sergei Samsonov, and there were reports, courtesy of Alexei Kovalev and the Russian media, that there are rifts within the Habs' dressing room. None of which would have mattered had the Canadiens made the playoffs. But they didn't, and aren't likely to again this season.

23. Claude Julien, Boston Bruins
Whether he was treated unfairly in Montreal or New Jersey or not is now moot. Julien will have to turn around the Bruins ship or this could be the end of the line for him as an NHL head coach.

24. Marc Crawford, Los Angeles Kings
It seems like it was long ago when Crawford was on top of the coaching world, winning the Stanley Cup with Colorado in 1996 and then coaching the Canadian Olympic team two years later in Nagano. Expectations are high for the Los Angeles Kings to show dramatic improvement. Can Crawford guide them to the postseason?

25. Denis Savard, Chicago Blackhawks
GM Dale Tallon thinks Savard is the real deal after giving the coach a contract extension this summer. Savard's still got an uphill battle, but there is more talent in Chicago than it's seen in many years.

26. John Stevens, Philadelphia Flyers
Stevens inherited a bad hand in Philadelphia last season, but the Flyers didn't show much in the way of turnaround. Now, GM Paul Holmgren has broken the bank to get the Flyers back to the playoffs and Stevens had better not let that talent go to waste.

27. John Paddock, Ottawa Senators
Hmm, 1995 was a long time ago, but that's how long it's been since Paddock was an NHL coach. He's proven himself to be a fine, patient teacher of young players. Is he the man to take the Senators to that next step of a Stanley Cup championship? Because that's the expectation in the Canadian capital.

28. Wayne Gretzky, Phoenix Coyotes
We know, he's Wayne Gretzky. But he's also 69-85-10 in two seasons as an NHL coach. And unless Gretzky starts to channel Toe Blake this season, the Coyotes are headed for a near-basement finish once more.

29. Brent Sutter, New Jersey Devils
We know, he's a Sutter and he's like the Sidney Crosby of coaching prospects. But he never coached an NHL regular-season game before this season. Get back to us in April.

30. Mike Keenan, Calgary Flames
Sorry, until he shows he won't single-handedly destroy the Calgary Flames, "Iron Mike" gets a seat in the rankings basement.

10-11-2007, 05:26 PM
LINK (http://meltyourfaceoff.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/i-didnt-think-anything-could-be-harder-to-find-than-versus/)

to find than verses

On Tuesday, the NHL announced (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?articleid=339504&page=NewsPage&service=page) that its dedicated NHL Network (which has been available to those lucky Canadians and their suddenly valuable money for some time) would be coming to US viewers “this month.” More hockey, hooray!

In the brief announcement, Commissioner Bettman said that the NHL had reached carriage agreements with Cablevision, Comcast, Cox Communications, DirecTV, Dish Network and Time Warner Cable. As a Dish Network customer, I immediately sought to find out where I could find some of that NHL Network goodness.

First stop: Dish Network (http://www.dishnetwork.com/) website. Hmmm, nothing on the front page. Sports? Gotta be some info there. Football, check. College sports, check. Cricket, check. Hockey…ah, there it is. Well, that’s about Center Ice. I want my NHL Network, dammit!

Dish had very kindly thrown the NFL Network into my programming package at no charge; surely the same would apply to NHL Network—it’s only one letter off. On the other hand, to get VERSUS I have to subscribe to a premium package. Sadly, this left me with but one choice: calling customer service.

Dish is not as bad on this front as some other companies, but let’s face it: American corporations have very successfully made it so that calling customer service to resolve a problem is now your last choice instead of your first. Customer service lines are currently built on a series of lies and traps.

1) “Please listen carefully, as our menu options may have changed.”

No, they haven’t. They never change. Because if they did, that would mean the company gave a crap about its customer service line, which it doesn’t.

2) “For billing questions and payment information, press 1. To order pay per view movies or events, Press 2. To upgrade your subscription package, press 3. For technical support, press 4. To cause a 10,000 volt shock to be sent over the line, sparing you from suffering through the rest of this call, press 5.”

I do nothing.

“I’m sorry. I didn’t hear you make a selection. Let’s try this again.”

The electroshock option begins to tempt.

3) “All of our agents are currently busy assisting other customers. But your call is very important. Please stay on the line.”

It could be true that all the agents are busy. But that would mean that this entity of which I am a customer is either too stupid to properly staff, or has way too many problems. Neither of which is confidence-inspiring. So this must be a lie. The computer deliberately holds calls in limbo for (at least) five minutes, hoping this will weed out the time-crunched and weak-willed. I bet it works.

4) “Thanks to you for calling Dish Network. My name is Eddie. How may I be helping you?”

Now, from his accented English and stilted grammar, it’s pretty clear that “Eddie” is from India, or possibly Bangladesh. I lose track of the hottest outsourcing trends. But his name almost certainly is not Eddie. It is Jagadeesh, or Jawarhalal, or Manmohan. He knows he’s Indian; I know he’s Indian; why are we pretending that he’s Eddie from Cedar Rapids? I don’t care where he’s from—he’s trying to make a rupee just like the rest of us—I just want him to answer my question.

5) “I am sorry sir, I am not understanding your question.”

It’s possible this is actually my fault—I get a little excited just thinking about the NHL Network. I slow down and explain that I am interested in receiving the NHL Network, a channel dedicated exclusively to hockey.

6) “Hoc-key?”

Ha-ha. That one’s a killer every time, “Eddie”! Oh. Turns out he was genuinely confused. Not so many rinks in Bangalore, apparently.

Several minutes of Eddie searching through the computer brings no results—no such network is part of any programming package they offer. Apparently, word of the carriage agreement has yet to trickle down to the people with whom one might actually place an order for NHL Network.

Well, I was thinking of switching to DirecTV anyway. May as well try them.

“Thanks to you for calling DirecTV. My name is Eddie. How may I be helping you?”

I have a feeling this isn’t going to go well…

10-12-2007, 03:07 PM
JordanTootoo cheapshot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ym7Ii7lWY4)

Jordin Tootoo of the Nasvhille Predators takes a run at Phoenix rookie Daniel Winnik – and it says here Tootoo was targeting Winnik’s head – and it’s Coyote rookie Craig Weller who gets the match penalty for intent to injure on the play, because Weller clotheslined Tootoo after the hit....

But it’s the Tootoo hit that should be the real concern.

If ever there were a hit where it looked like a player was intentionally trying to hit someone in the head, this was it.

10-12-2007, 03:13 PM
JordanTootoo cheapshot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ym7Ii7lWY4)
If ever there were a hit where it looked like a player was intentionally trying to hit someone in the head, this was it.

i agree 100%

i posted this up in the flyers thread just cuz i didnt wanna whine about it in this one, but i certainly think that if downie got 20 then this should too, the result was different but the intent was the same, at least downie broke stride tho when he launched into him, tootooo didnt.

i guess we get a quick chance to see how consistant the nhl is going to be about head shots.

or does this one get swept under the rug because it didnt happen to a senaturd, and the canadian media seems to be ignoring it, unlike the downie incident .

10-12-2007, 03:18 PM
The league has it's hands full lately that's for sure it should be interesting what comes out of this rash of examples.

10-12-2007, 03:42 PM
Suspension (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?articleid=339897&page=NewsPage&service=page)

Philadelphia forward Jesse Boulerice was suspended 25 games by the NHL on Friday for cross-checking Vancouver’s Ryan Kesler across the face, matching the largest suspension in league history.

10-12-2007, 04:02 PM
Funny nucks fans...


10-12-2007, 06:53 PM
Suspension (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?articleid=339897&page=NewsPage&service=page)

Philadelphia forward Jesse Boulerice was suspended 25 games by the NHL on Friday for cross-checking Vancouver’s Ryan Kesler across the face, matching the largest suspension in league history.

good, i have no problem with this suspension, anybody that uses a stick as a wweapon should get the same.

10-12-2007, 07:03 PM
He will lose roughly 144k....

10-12-2007, 07:16 PM
He will lose roughly 144k....

itll cost him more the that, id put money on the fact that his career is over, with the flyers already having downie taking up a roster sport and counting against the cap, there is no way they keep him, and since hes getting up there in age with no real upside to him id be really surprised to see anybody else pick him up. If the ahl honours the nhl suspension then he wont be able to play there either, so as i said his days doone i think.

broad street bullies 2 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=3059177&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab4pos1)

i love it, after getting pushed around the last 2 years the flyers are finally standing up for each other, i do however wonder how long until brierre spears somebody and gets 20 games.

10-12-2007, 09:32 PM
itll cost him more the that, id put money on the fact that his career is over, with the flyers already having downie taking up a roster sport and counting against the cap, there is no way they keep him, and since hes getting up there in age with no real upside to him id be really surprised to see anybody else pick him up. If the ahl honours the nhl suspension then he wont be able to play there either, so as i said his days doone i think.

broad street bullies 2 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=3059177&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab4pos1)

i love it, after getting pushed around the last 2 years the flyers are finally standing up for each other, i do however wonder how long until brierre spears somebody and gets 20 games.

Iam not sure downie is taking up roster space with a entry level contract...


10-13-2007, 02:28 PM
Q. So often in these things we hear about repeat offender things, that each suspension thereafter is harsher. Now we’ve had two against a team in a short period of time. Is there any provision where teams can now be held responsible for their players’ actions as well?

COLIN CAMPBELL: There’s nothing formal that holds a team responsible. I guess if you really look at the issues they have to deal with, their roster situation, they have to deal with paying the player and with other aspects that come with losing two players that they’re paying. But there’s nothing formal that punishes the team for the number of players who are suspended.

Q. In your role, though, are you concerned that in such a short period of time there have been two severe incidents by the same club and have you spoken to either Paul Holmgren or Coach Stephens about it?

COLIN CAMPBELL: No, I’m not concerned. They’ve always had that image that dates back to ‘72 when they were nicknamed “The Broad Street Bullies.” If you look at the time that I’ve been associated with the National Hockey League doing this job, with discipline, I don’t recall—I think I’ve had a couple of players over that whole period with Philadelphia. I think Lindros back in the ‘90s and I think one other player, maybe. But I’ve had very few incidents with Philadelphia. So I have not had a problem with Philadelphia. And Paul Holmgren was easy to deal with and very up front and very honest, as was John Stephens, the coach.

Q. First of all, I know you don’t take the history of a player into consideration when you’re looking at suspending these guys. But both of the guys you suspended now have had problems in the OHL. When are you going to look at the player’s character coming into the NHL as a consideration how you treat them when it comes to acts of this nature?

COLIN CAMPBELL: I think that that’s an issue that we have to deal with the NHL Players’ Association, as far as blending that criteria into our criteria. Right now, as it stands, we’re only allowed to look at their record in our league and how they play and act in our league.

Q. Is this something that you have been talking about with the PA in the last little while, or is it something you’ll bring up with them in the future?

COLIN CAMPBELL: I haven’t thought about that. Maybe it’s something that the players themselves want to talk about. Obviously a lot of those players have played against these two players at some point in time in the OHL, a lot of the players in the NHL, so they know about these players. They talk to the teammates about that, their teammates have played with or against these players. So players are aware of that. I think that question would be better suited to the players.

Q. In the Kesler and Boulerice situation, they had a bit of a jousting match for at least a few minutes prior to the suffering the crosscheck. Is this a point where something that the referees have to take note the escalation and penalize them before we get to the point where someone suffers a serious injury?

COLIN CAMPBELL: We talked to our officials about that. But at some point in time how much of the game do you want the officials to officiate and to blend into how they’re going to control the game?

We can’t tell our officials constantly that you have to anticipate everything and cut it off before it happens. You hope that there’s a point where a player says this is where I draw the line, I’m not going any farther. And when they do go farther, they get a penalty. And they go farther than that, they get a suspension.

But when they take it to the point where Mr. Boulerice did, it’s well above a normal suspension. And it was well above any possible play. It wasn’t a stick that got high. It wasn’t a jousting session that escalated to something that’s suspendable under a two, four, five game situation. It was totally apart from the play during the game. It was just an incident that the puck was going north and he was going south towards Kesler.

Q. I don’t want to give the impression I’m thinking you have to be into the player’s head or the referee has to think about what the player is going to do before they actually do it; but the situation with Kesler and Boulerice, they were going at each other very hard, couple trips and slashes. If the referee notices this going on, can’t they step in and say one more thing and you’re out of the game? I mean that would precipitate them getting a crosscheck to the face, don’t you think?

COLIN CAMPBELL: I think you’re wrong. They can only police it so much. Maybe they did say something to them. Maybe they didn’t listen. We don’t know that. They could have said “Settle down, you guys.” But at some point in time I think you’re putting a little bit too much of the control of the game and blaming the referees when the blame should be in the players’ hands. They have to be in control of their actions.

Q. Absolutely. But we’re looking at a situation now where there have been so many egregious acts over the past couple of years, are players losing the respect for each other that was apparent when you were playing?

COLIN CAMPBELL: Well, again, I’m not so sure they’re losing respect. I think when you’ve got ?? when I played, I hate to say how many teams were in the league, but there was a lot less players in the league. There are 750 players. I’m sure the majority of those players respect each other. When you get a handful of five or six doing these things, I think it’s unfair to paint all the players in the light of a few players’ actions. When a few players get carried away, they lose the right to play. In this case they may lose their right to ever make it in the league.

We had a player for the New York Rangers, a defenseman ?? I’m trying to think of his name—Dale Purinton. He was suspended for 10 games and the message I gave him at the time was that you could affect your career. You had an opportunity to play. You’re a big guy and this may affect your career.

It did. He hasn’t been in the league since. If they want to put their career in jeopardy, that’s their choice. And so I wouldn’t paint 750 players in a certain light when you get three, four guys doing something over the course of two years.

Q. I want to ask you, if Kesler doesn’t get up, as it turns out, thank god he’s okay and he’s probably going to play tonight, but I know we talked about this before, all kinds of different factors when you sit down and think about this. The fact that he wasn’t that seriously hurt, are we looking at something even longer if Kesler is out for a long time?

COLIN CAMPBELL: Certainly, that’s always a factor in these situations. And call it luck, call it what you want, but in Chris Simon’s situation and in the situation with Jesse Boulerice, if they cause injury, we’re into a whole heap of problems, not only the player, but the teams in the league and our sport.

So we have to be careful. If there’s an injury two nights ago, we may be dealing with more than what we’re dealing with today. And I would have to say that Jesse is fairly fortunate that he didn’t cause injury, not only for Kesler himself, but in a lot of ways—I mean we saw what transpired with under the Bertuzzi situation when there is injury, it never stops.

So I would hope players would understand this and see what could happen and what could come of these things and they have to control themselves. In Jesse Boulerice’s situation, he’s a tough player, but you have to know your limitations and you have to know what you can do in your role.

Whether you were trying to send a message of what you were trying to do, you don’t do it that way.

Q. Could you walk us through how you came with the number of 25 games? Does it have anything to do with the suspension that was handed down earlier, seeing that was 20? How did you come to 25?

COLIN CAMPBELL: Well, the case last week was totally different in the sense that that was a body check that went bad. That was an endeavor that hockey operations undertook along with the players, coaches, managers, owners, on something that was occurring on a much too often basis, where a body check went to a point where it was causing injury, went beyond illegal.

And we had to determine what was acceptable, what wasn’t acceptable, when you threw a body check. A shoulder that came in contact with a head and how did you make that contact.

This was totally different. We examined that. We thought about that, obviously, because that’s always on our radar screen. But this was different. This wasn’t a body check that’s legal that kind of went bad or did go bad in a whole lot of ways, this was a stick that was used that was broken as it was used to another player’s face.

It was similar to the Simon incident. You don’t use your stick for swinging at players, crosschecking players. You use your stick for shooting and passing. And sometimes there’s accidental stick contact. Sometimes there’s careless stick contact, when players are jostling and things are getting heated around the net, when the goalie is pulled, and we’ve had suspensions in the past of two, four, five games, when players get careless and carried away.

This was a determined effort of a player who went in the opposite direction of the play was going. He sought out a player and without the player seeing him, he struck that player in the facial area with a crosscheck, breaking his stick.

And no different than Chris Simon using his stick to swing it in a fashion at another player’s head. In both cases we were fortunate, and they were fortunate, and obviously the player who received the stick were fortunate, there was no injury.

Q. How do you balance intent and the end result when you’re handing out discipline? Because you obviously sent a good message with what you handed out today. But you also mentioned this could have been harsher had there been more damage to Kesler.

COLIN CAMPBELL: I don’t know if there’s any balancing here. I think we look at what happened. And we’ve got a lot of good people to work with me that have been around this game a long time. And we look at all the factors surrounding each and every play. And we try to determine what’s right and what’s wrong and how wrong did it go.

And in this play, we’ve always said before—and it’s no different out on the street and any other action that we all are involved in—we’ve got to be accountable for the actions we take. And if bad things happen, that’s your risk. And in this case he decided to do something that resulted in a bad action but not a terribly bad result. And he was lucky.

If there was a worse result, maybe there would be more than me looking into it today, and that wouldn’t be good for any of us.

Q. Is the Jordin Tootoo incident under review?

COLIN CAMPBELL: No, it’s not.

10-13-2007, 02:41 PM

People asked in the aftermath of the Jesse Boulerice crosscheck to the jaw of Ryan Kesler, 'will they ever learn?' and the answer is: Some never will. How else to explain that exactly one day after Boulerice's cheap shot to Kesler's face, which resulted in a 25-game suspension Friday, there was another less-publicized incident in the Nashville Predators-Phoenix Coyotes' game, featuring superpest Jordin Tootoo, another player who seems to get in the middle of these things every year?

On the play in question, Tootoo caught the Coyotes' Daniel Winnik in the face with a shoulder check that — if nothing else — should have been called charging. With Winnik on the ice, his Coyotes' teammate Craig Weller then clothes-lined Tootoo in retaliation and received a match penalty for his troubles.

Tootoo played the innocent afterwards, claiming he delivered a nice clean check. Right. Sure. Nor was there any defence for Weller's response either. Perhaps on a different night, it wouldn't have caused a ripple either, but with the focus and attention of everyone in the NHL on blows to the head, here were two in a span of about five seconds which once again, demonstrated the reckless disregard of one player for another — and the fact that in the heat of battle, stuff happens.

More and more, it makes you realize that the answer doesn't lie strictly with the players themselves. Many prominent NHLers — none of them shrinking violets — spoke out in the aftermath of the Steve Downie hit and again after the Boulerice incident about their collective desire to eliminate head shots from the game.

Their feeling reflects a majority view - that there are just too many NHLers leaving the ice, with their brain cells unnecessarily scrambled, because a handful of their peers genuinely believe that what they're doing is perfectly acceptable within the culture that exists in today's NHL.

And probably it was, once upon a time. There are, however, signs, that the NHL is trying to change that mindset, one suspension at a time — the Boulerice suspension ties with Chris Simon for the longest in history, relating to an on-ice incident.

Maybe that approach will eventually work too.

But the league could fast-track the process by extending the discipline to the respective teams as well. Fines to the club, suspensions for the coach - those sorts of penalties might encourage teams to think twice about employing players who haven't yet figured out that the culture of head-hunting is going the way of the dodo.

The simplest solution might even be the least complicated — simply prevent a team from replacing a suspended player in the line-up.

Let's use the Philadelphia Flyers as an example. Currently, the Flyers have two players under suspension, Downie (for the pre-season hit on the Ottawa Senators' Dean McAmmond) and now Boulerice. The Flyers tried to circumvent the terms of Downie's 20-game suspension by assigning him to their American Hockey League affiliate, only to have the AHL close the loophole by suspending him themselves for a month. In all probability, they would have tried something similar with Boulerice, who has played more games in the minors (243) than in the NHL (165) since turning pro a decade ago (after a controversy-filled junior career in the Ontario Hockey League).

But what if the Flyers actually had to play two men short during the terms of Downie's and Boulerice's suspensions, dressing only 16 skaters as opposed to 18? That would greatly limit coach John Stevens' flexibility; it would have a tangible impact on the organization and its day-to-day operations; and it would do more than just punish the guilty players.

Suddenly, a team thinking of employing a Boulerice or a Downie type would need to weigh the risks against the rewards of doing so and just might conclude that it isn't worth it anymore — not if they could find themselves one, or in Philadelphia's case, two line-up spots short per game for an extended period of time.

Flyers' general manager Paul Holmgren was saying this week how the pair of suspensions "makes things tricky for the roster." Imagine how tricky things would become if his coach could only dress five defencemen and 11 forwards — or six defencemen and just 10 forwards — while his suspended players cool their heels on the sidelines.

10-13-2007, 03:31 PM
As you can see nhl.com has changed their format why you ask? i have no freaking clue i thought it was fine last year. But one thing that really ticks me off is the fact they removed (shift charts) from the game summaries which i really liked.


10-13-2007, 06:02 PM
On the other end of the latest suspension rise...

Link (http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islanders/ny-spisles135411534oct13,0,2214570.story)

PHILADELPHIA - It's not that Chris Simon is unrepentant about the stick-swinging incident seven months ago for which he received a 25-game suspension, the longest sentence in NHL history. But something inside him relishes the fact that he will make his comeback Saturday night in Philadelphia, a fight town if ever there was one.

Simon was drafted by the Flyers, and even though he was traded before he ever donned their uniform, he always has appreciated the physical style of a franchise once known as the "Broad Street Bullies." Already this season, two Flyers have been suspended for the use of excessive force, so Simon anticipates the sort of game that should be right up the back alley he has inhabited for the most of his 15 NHL seasons.

"I'm really excited to be back playing," Simon said on the eve of his return. "I love the style that's been played by the Flyers in the past. That's always been the type of game that's played into my hands."

Actually, Simon has rather soft hands for an enforcer, as his 159 career goals attest. But he doesn't kid himself. Simon is among the toughest of a breed for whom the key to survival in the NHL has been a willingness to handle the rough stuff.

That's the player the Rangers' Ryan Hollweg chose to hit from behind March 8 at Nassau Coliseum, triggering a response that Simon knows was wrong but, at the same time, arose from a basic survival instinct that has allowed him to remain a force at the age of 35.

To this day, Simon says he doesn't remember Hollweg's hit or his own reaction because of the concussion he received when he was lifted off his skates and driven face-first into the glass. But Simon has studied tape of the incident, trying to make sense of it.

He has seen the image of himself rising on wobbly legs and turning to face Hollweg, who circled back toward him. As horrifying as the visual of Simon's swinging the stick toward Hollweg's chin might have been, he noted that his hands remained well apart on the stick, not together.

"I didn't swing my stick at him," Simon said. "I chopped him. I know it's wrong, but it wasn't a golf swing or a baseball swing like everybody else says. I don't want to do that again. But I'm still going to play the same way I always have. It was a reaction thing, not an action.

"Getting hit the way I did, I was injured on the play. I wasn't myself. I was half-knocked out. It wasn't like I was looking for anybody. I didn't even know who hit me. He came back towards me, I was hurt, and that's all I could do. I didn't want to get hit again."

Simon doesn't deny responsibility for what could have turned into an incident with far more serious repercussions if the blow he delivered had done more damage. But as a fighter, Simon understands what happens when you get knocked down.

"When we fight in hockey and a guy gets hurt, if you've ever been in that situation, it's like you're an animal," he said. "Your instincts take over.

"When I'm fighting, if I hit somebody hard and hurt him, I know what's coming. Because the guy is trying anything he can to not get knocked out. That's what happened to me. I think if I had been hit again on that play, I would have been out. That's the only logic I can put to it."

The first memory Simon has of that night was in the dressing room after his ejection. "I remember being in the room, and I saw Chris ," Simon said. "My eyes were dilated. I was wobbly still. I didn't even know where I was."

Simon said he was worried about Hollweg's condition. As it turned out, Hollweg required just two stitches for a cut on his chin and played in the Rangers' next game two days later. If Simon had not been suspended, he would have been unable to play for at least the next two weeks because of nausea resulting from the concussion he received.

But having done his time, Simon said he's interested only in moving forward with his career. His job description remains the same, and he expects to play as hard and physically as ever.

"I go out thinking about what I have to do to stay in the league, to play my game," Simon said. "I've always been the type of player who's stuck up for myself and, more importantly, for my teammates. All I've been thinking about is my first game against the Flyers. I'm really excited to get back out and help the boys."

10-13-2007, 06:09 PM
Lazy and Stupid says nonis (http://www.canada.com/topics/sports/hockey/story.html?id=94710299-76d1-471b-bb34-36cbb1337ac0&k=94019)

10-13-2007, 09:59 PM
Q. Is the Jordin Tootoo incident under review?

COLIN CAMPBELL: No, it’s not.

WHY NOT ? he tried to do the same thing as downie but he missed, its not that he pulled up or got out of the way, he missed, he still clipped him, so bascally as weve been saying the nhl is ruling by result, do what ever you want as long as you dont hurt anyone.

10-15-2007, 04:28 PM
PHILADELPHIA - Jesse Boulerice was placed on waivers by the Philadelphia Flyers on Monday, a decision made on the heels of his 25-game suspension from the NHL.

Boulerice received the ban Friday for his vicious cross-check to the face of Vancouver Canucks centre Ryan Kesler during a game last Wednesday. It matched the longest punishment handed out by the league for an on-ice incident.

Boulerice, a 29-year-old native of Plattsburgh, N.Y., has 319 penalty minutes in 167 career NHL games. He's averaged less than five minutes of ice time per game in his NHL career.

The Flyers signed him as an unrestricted free agent before the season after he won a job in training camp. He played in just two games this season.

10-15-2007, 10:06 PM
BerniernextRoy is not happy to report that Bernier has been sent down to Lewiston in the Juniors.

On theory that playing on the Kings, with their defensive problems, would chip away at Bernier's confidence: ``I think that's the concern they've got. He's a quality person. He's shown the ability to play and play well. He showed the ability to bounce back from goals and anything else that can be construed as a mistake. You got to like the physical makeup he's got; you love the mental makeup he has. And it's going to carry him a long way. What we're saying is it's just not right now. Now is not the time for him to be here. For his long-term development, that's the decision that's been made.''

On Bernier's reaction to the news: ``He's disappointed. That shows you the quality of person he is. He wanted to make a difference here and he wanted to continue to get the opportunity to make a difference. We're not going to give him that opportunity. We're going to concentrate on his development.''

``Obviously, we're concerned about the mindset he's got. As we told him this morning, `You're a great goaltender. Act like a great goaltender and believe this is a short-term setback for you.' He's going to progress at the right level and maybe the right speed.''

On possibility of Bernier coming back up this season: ``I think the rule's is that, in an emergency situation, you can bring up anyone under contract. But, for all intents and purposes, he's going to complete his junior year. Hopefully he'll have a great junior year, maybe play for the Canadian national team at the world juniors tournament, and at the end of the year they could bring him up here or at our farm club level.''


10-16-2007, 06:58 PM
Anybody else see the cheap cross check to scott parkers mouth by duvie westcott at the end of the blue jackets game?

Blue Jackets defenseman Duvie Westcott was fined $1,000 by the NHL today -- but not suspended -- for his blow to the face of Colorado winger Scott Parker.

NHL VP Colin Campbell took into account that Westcott has no previous record with the league and has never been suspended. Westcott explained his view of the situation with Campbell, that he merely lifted his hands and stick in the air to defend himself. Campbell must have believed him.

Westcott is eligible to play Wednesday when the Blue Jackets host Dallas.

-- Aaron Portzline

10-16-2007, 07:44 PM
And the kid is tearin up the OHL...

Eight games in, John Tavares and the Oshawa Generals are on fire.

Oshawa won 8-2 yesterday against the Kingston Frontenacs, with Tavares picking up a hat trick and two more assists. The Generals are 5-2-1 this season, and have scored an average of five goals a game, outscoring opponents 40-27.

It's really no surprise that the just-turned-17 Tavares leads all of Canadian major junior in scoring already, with 13 goals and 22 points in eight games. He's on pace for a 109-goal, 184-point season if he gets into as many as the 67 games he played last season. (Sidney Crosby had 66 goals and 168 points in his 17-year-old season with Rimouski.)

Now, as I said, it's early, but 109 goals would be the third-best ever in major junior history, behind only Mario Lemieux's 133 in 1983-84 and Guy Lafleur's 130 in 1970-71. Players have topped 200 points 11 times in junior hockey.

Tavares will almost certainly miss a portion of the OHL season while at the world junior championship in the Czech Republic this Christmas, so that puts a dent in any potential record chase. In terms of career records, however, he's just 83 goals from matching the all-time OHL goal scoring record and 246 from the points record.

The major junior goal scoring record is held by Lafleur at 314, which means Tavares will need another 184 goals over the remainder of this season and the whole year in 2008-09 — about 125 games — to meet that mark.

Ineligible for the entry draft until 2009, he might as well chase a few records.

10-16-2007, 08:03 PM
LINK (http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2007/10/chelios_bluntly_addresses_bett.html)

Chris Chelios confirmed that he and the NHLPA's search committee have unanimously nominated attorney Paul Kelly to be their next executive director:

October 15, Associated Press: The NHL Players' Association officially nominated former assistant U.S. attorney Paul Kelly on Monday for its executive director position. The unanimous nomination was made during a conference call Monday night with the union's 30 player representatives, who will conduct a secret ballot vote during the next week. A majority vote is required for Kelly to be elected.

The Red Wings defenceman is guardedly optimistic about Kelly holding the PA's so-called "partners," a.k.a. the NHL, accountable for their actions:

"We've got a way to see what happens, but he's been recommended," Chelios said Monday night in Anaheim after Detroit's 6-3 loss. "Obviously the word's out, so it just remains to be seen what the board thinks and what the players think, and we'll go from there."

Ted Saskin was fired as executive director union last May amid allegations he ordered the spying of NHLPA player e-mail in the midst of a player uprising that challenged how he took over for Bob Goodenow after the NHL lockout in 2005.

"A lot of it had to do with where we are now," Chelios said. "We'll discuss it at length with the players and inform them about why we came to this decision. And we all believe we made the right decision.

"He obviously knows the law, and he's been in pressure situations, legal situations, and we're stuck with the CBA for the next two years at least -- maybe five -- and I think we have to learn the CBA first, and then make sure that everybody's held accountable for that. And if anybody tries to cheat now or do anything wrong, we've got the right guy now."

Naming Kelly wasn't the PA's only order of business on their Monday conference call with all 30 teams' player representatives:

October 15, TSN: The union membership is also dealing with the ratification of its revised constitution, a multi-page document that specifies significant change to the structure of the NHLPA's executive.

The changes in the constitution include the detachment of the title of General Counsel from the position of Executive Director.

Historically, both jobs have been filled by the same person. Pending ratification, the union will hire a lawyer to work closely with the newly appointed executive director.

An ombudsman will also be added to the mix with this individual, likely a former player, acting as the "eyes and ears" for the membership to ensure the lines of communication between the players and the newly hired executives remain open at all times.

The voting will also be drastically altered. With the elimination of the players' executive committee each team will receive a maximum of one vote, cast by the appointed player rep.

When asked about the email conversations between Saskin and both NHL commissioner Gary Bettman--who suggested that Saskin send Chelios on a one-way trip to Moscow--and deputy commissioner Bill Daly, who actively assisted Saskin in attempting to undermine the player insurgency, Chelios was blunt:

October 16, Globe and Mail: "I'd like to sit down in a room with Gary Bettman and ask him what he meant by that," Chelios said. "I would love to know. For the past two years, the way Ted conducted himself, it doesn't surprise me one bit. As far as Gary Bettman [and the NHL] is concerned, there's no question what they did was unethical.

"The NHL supported [Saskin]. Was it illegal? No. Was it morally wrong? Yes."

Chelios, along with former player Trent Klatt and Edmonton Oilers' goaltender Dwayne Roloson, was a significant thorn in Saskin's side for two years. Those known as dissidents were upset at how Saskin was hired in the wake of Bob Goodenow's resignation and how Saskin was signed to a five-year contract worth $10-million.

Later, after it was alleged Saskin had accessed the players' private email accounts to learn who was against him, the dissidents grew in number and were able to suspend Saskin and then fire him with what they believed was cause. That decision was endorsed by Toronto lawyer Sheila Block, who oversaw an independent investigation into Saskin's dealings.

As Chelios noted, his stance hasn't exactly changed--since the 1995 lockout, when Chelios suggested that commissioner Bettman ought to watch his back:

October 16, Detroit News: "I feel the same way about him (Bettman) and Daly and Saskin as I did from Day One," Chelios after said Monday's morning skate in Anaheim. Chelios is a longtime critic of the three hockey leaders. "Just look back at some of my quotes. Everyone knows how I feel about them."

Chelios went a step further, acknowledging what many observers believe--that several prominent player agents attempted to lobby their clients to go to the NHL outside the NHL-NHLPA relationship to quietly agree to a salary cap, and Chelios went straight for the king of player agents in doing so:

October 16, Detroit Free Press: Chelios also had harsh words for agent Don Meehan, whose clients among the Wings include Nicklas Lidstrom and Kris Draper.

"In my opinion, Donny Meehan played a role in undermining our union," Chelios said. "He's been involved in investments that were, to say the least, sketchy or shady. Now, with the e-mails we've looked at, and this is my opinion, he took a role with Daly and Bettman and Saskin. The players' union was the least thing in his mind."

As Chelios has noted previously, the full story of what happened during the lockout, as well as what happened during Ted Saskin's tenure as the PA's executive director, has yet to be told:

"There's a lot more than people know about, and when a new executive director gets in there and he starts talking to the players, let them handle it," Chelios said before Kelly's nomination was announced. "It's far from being over. There's a computer hard drive missing. Ted said he destroyed it. Who knows where it is? You don't know what to believe."

Though Chelios, 45, is nearing the end of his storied NHL career, he insists he has no future as a union leader. He has told younger players they need to care more because soon he won't be around to lead the fight. "I want what's best for the union and what's best for the league," he said.

There is, of course, the caveat, and it's a simple one--the league-friendly media, led by MSG Network's Stan Fischler, will continue to claim that a fully-functioning labour union influenced by Chris Chelios will lead to the downfall of the league:

October 15, MSG Network: So, Paul Kelly becomes new boss of the NHL Players' Association. Since Chris Chelios and Eric Lindros were on the selection committee we can expect the new union's new Executive Director to share Bob Goodenow's militancy - unless we hear different from Kelly, himself. Should Kelly take the NHLPA to a more compromising position, it will be the upset of the half-century.

Already, we've heard from one prominent agent who makes it clear that he'll be surprised if the majority of players allow Kelly to lead them into another no-win war. "There's too much to lose," the agent insists. The problem is this: will the small, but dominating, Chelios clique take another one of their macho, war-like stances?

While some members of the media wisely note that the NHL's one-time golden boy, Bill Daly, is now under the microscope like never before, those who were around to unseat the first executive director of the NHLPA say that Kelly's the right man to right the union's ship--if only for the first time:

October 16, Toronto Star: On a conference call with NHL team player representatives last night, a five-member search committee led by Detroit's Chris Chelios recommended the players union hire the 52-year-old Kelly, who is an unknown to many in the hockey industry.

But people who know Kelly say his ties to hockey run deep. In the 1990s, Kelly worked closely with former Maple Leafs defenceman Carl Brewer in efforts to prosecute NHLPA founder Alan Eagleson. At the time, Canadian authorities were uninterested in Brewer's claims that Eagleson had mismanaged the Toronto union's money.

There were worries that U.S. authorities would similarly disregard complaints against Eagleson.

"We had been told that the Mulroney government had put a lot of pressure on (former U.S. attorney general Janet Reno) to have the case against Eagleson dropped in the U.S.," said Susan Foster, Brewer's long-time companion. "Paul Kelly was adamant that was not going to happen. If it wasn't for him, I believe Eagleson would not have gone to jail.

"I think hiring Paul would be a beautiful new beginning for the union," she said.

One way or another, under Kelly's tenure, the truth will probably come out, if only in piecemeal fashion:

Some players and agents are now asking the union to release email correspondence between Saskin and several prominent hockey agents after learning how close Saskin was to NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly. In several instances, according to emails reviewed by the Star, Daly passed on to Saskin information that was not widely known about who his enemies within the union might be.

The man who helped Kelly nail Eagleson--the Eagle Tribune's Russ Conway--says that Kelly's hiring should satisfy both the NHLPA's membership and fear-mongers like Fischler:

October 16, New York Sun: "(Kelly's) a great choice for players and families, and for the game and their fans," said Hall of Fame hockey writer Russ Conway. "The reason is because he can get things done in a manner that isn't always a battle and a war. He has the ability to get people to listen to different points of view... He isn't a warmonger."

10-16-2007, 09:32 PM
Anybody else see the cheap cross check to scott parkers mouth by duvie westcott at the end of the blue jackets game?

Blue Jackets defenseman Duvie Westcott was fined $1,000 by the NHL today -- but not suspended -- for his blow to the face of Colorado winger Scott Parker.

NHL VP Colin Campbell took into account that Westcott has no previous record with the league and has never been suspended. Westcott explained his view of the situation with Campbell, that he merely lifted his hands and stick in the air to defend himself. Campbell must have believed him.

Westcott is eligible to play Wednesday when the Blue Jackets host Dallas.

-- Aaron Portzline

ok i didnt see the hit, but its really starting to sound like the league has a hard on for the flyers, i mean downie gets 20 for a hit similar to what tootoo does who gets nothing, then boulerice crosschecks a guy to the face and gets 25 and this clown gets nothing ? WTF ?

10-16-2007, 09:57 PM
It was a two handed crosscheck to the face iam not really sure how colin is determining the difference so far it really is based on the injury. (which is really no deterant what so ever) basically hes setting himself up for a super major injury to somebody.

10-17-2007, 01:47 AM

Anyone else in the league have video projection onto the ice?

10-17-2007, 01:13 PM
everybody shoots logos an stuff onto the ice, thats the first time ive seen the whole rink used tho.

didnt they try something like that at the allstar game last year ?

10-17-2007, 01:25 PM
Bob Hartley fired by Atlanta.

10-17-2007, 01:45 PM
Found a pic of you Chadta...hope you don't mind me posting it. (Chadta has the Hat.) :)


10-17-2007, 05:12 PM
Adding to socals post...



You can’t fire the players, so the winless Atlanta Thrashers fired the coach Wednesday when Bob Hartley was relieved of his duties behind the bench, making him the first NHL coaching casualty of the young season.

“I felt, watching every game, it wasn’t going to change. And I needed to do something about it,” General Manager Don Waddell said on a conference call with reporters. “I never predicted I’d be making a coaching change six games into the year.”

The Thrashers have not won a game yet this season, and including their first-round playoff loss to the Rangers in the spring, Atlanta lost 10-straight games under Hartley’s watch, including the first six of the new season. The Thrashers slipped to 0-6-0 Tuesday night, but it was even before the final buzzer sounded on that game that Waddell made up his mind.

“Going into last night I was just hoping we would win a game,” Waddell said. “We lost last night 4-0. We played a very good first period and once Philadelphia scored their first goal it was panic mode. I could see we were in big trouble. We gave up two really quick. Witnessing that, I just said this team needs a fresh voice, maybe a fresh face here to take some of the heat off them and let them just go play their game and just go out and have some fun and win a game.”

For now, that new voice and face will belong to Waddell, who will take over for Hartley until a full-time replacement is found. With a busy schedule and the NHL season in full swing, Waddell says he’s willing to wait to find the right guy for the job rather than make a hasty hiring. Therefore, this will be Waddell’s second cameo as head coach after he filled the same position before Hartley was hired to replace Curt Fraser in 2003.

Waddell went 3-5-1 in his nine-game coaching stint four years ago before hiring Hartley, who had won a Stanley Cup in 2001 as head coach of the Colorado Avalanche.

Hartley, Atlanta’s second head coach, posted a 136-123-32 record in his tenure with the Thrashers and guided the franchise to it’s first-ever division title and playoff appearance last spring. Atlanta’s postseason was brief, lasting only four games as they were swept by the Rangers in the first round.

The losing continued into this season with six-straight wins, a league-worst nine goals scored, and Waddell acknowledged that poor playoff showing also played a small part in his decision to replace Hartley this week.

“Certainly we have to be aware of what happened last year, but I really thought that the summertime would heal a lot of that history and the remembrance of it, but obviously it didn’t with some of our players,” Waddell said. “I think last year may have played a small part on how we finished. I felt the direction we’re going right now, the six games, we haven’t played very well. We’ve played well at periods of time, but not for any full 60 minutes of the game. I couldn’t let it go any longer.”

Following a conference call with ownership, Waddell said he made one of the toughest drives he can remember to the rink to let Hartley know.

“It was very emotional for me,” Waddell said. “Like I said, Bob has done a very good job for us and he’s become a very good friend and I had to separate that because at this point I feel – I don’t want to lose him as a friend – but we had to do something to try to help this team. We have a lot of games left. We’ve only played six games. We have 76 games left and we feel like we can salvage the season.”

They’ll begin trying to save their season Thursday against – who else? – the New York Rangers.

10-17-2007, 06:36 PM

2007-2008 Player Rankings: Week 2
Rank Player Team Comments
1 Paul Stastny
Games: 6
G: 5
A: 8
PTS: 13
Avalanche As of Tuesday night, Stastny is tied for the overall league lead in scoring with 13 points. He has points in five of Colorado's six games this season.
2 Henrik Zetterberg
Games: 7
G: 5
A: 8
PTS: 13
Red Wings Zetterberg is tied with Stastny and posted four goals and two assists in four games over the past week.
3 Jason Spezza
Games: 7
G: 0
A: 11
PTS: 11
Senators Spezza's assist streak continued (he has at least one helper in each of the Sens' seven games), but he has yet to score a goal.
4 Daniel Alfredsson
Games: 7
G: 5
A: 4
PTS: 9
Senators The Senators captain falls a few spots after posting just one assist in three games this past week.
5 Niklas Backstrom
Games: 5
Wins: 4
Loss: 0
GAA: 1.378
SV%: .945
Wild The Wild netminder is third in GAA (1.38), fourth in save percentage (.945) and is tied for the league lead in shutouts (2). Minny is 5-0-1 as a result.
6 Martin Gerber
Games: 6
Wins: 5
Loss: 1
GAA: 1.986
SV%: .941
Senators Through Tuesday's games, the Senators goaltender leads the NHL in wins (5), but loses a little ground after allowing five goals in a loss to the Canes.
7 Nicklas Lidstrom
Games: 7
G: 1
A: 4
PTS: 5
Red Wings Lidstrom drops a few spots after the Red Wings went 1-2 on the week and 1-for-16 on the power play over that span.
8 Mike Comrie
Games: 6
G: 4
A: 3
PTS: 7
Islanders Comrie's top line has cooled (he has one assist in three games) and so have the Islanders.
9 Daniel Briere
Games: 5
G: 4
A: 4
PTS: 8
Flyers Briere enters the Top 15 after continuing his strong start for the Flyers. The forward has eight points in five games.
10 Brian Campbell
Games: 5
G: 1
A: 8
PTS: 9
Sabres The Sabres defenseman is also a newcomer after a huge week -- one goal and seven assists in two games. He now leads all blueliners with nine points.
11 Nik Antropov
Games: 7
G: 5
A: 4
PTS: 9
Maple Leafs The only bright spot in Toronto these days, Antropov has nine points and leads the league in plus/minus (plus-9).
12 Cam Ward
Games: 5
Wins: 4
Loss: 0
GAA: 1.795
SV%: .942
Hurricanes The Hurricanes goalie has posted three straight wins and had a 1.67 GAA and .939 save percentage over that span.
13 Martin St. Louis
Games: 4
G: 0
A: 5
PTS: 5
Lightning The Lightning forward falls after failing to post a point this week as his team went 1-1.
14 Patrick Kane
Games: 5
G: 0
A: 4
PTS: 4
Blackhawks The rookie has a four-game points streak and set up the Hawks' game-winning OT goal against the Stars.
15 Michael Cammalleri
Games: 7
G: 6
A: 2
PTS: 8
Kings Cammalleri drops after a bleak week for the Kings. He had three points in the team's two wins before being held pointless vs. Minny.

10-17-2007, 06:45 PM
Thanks too KK for the story

Another clueless **** that mom and dad let play with dolls blogs his opinion on something he clearly knows nothing about.

Iam pu$$y hear me roar!

October 17, 2007 4:24 PM

Before we get bogged down in the details (and I'm sorry to say this, but any discussion about fighting in hockey inevitably gets bogged down in the details), let's describe the subject at hand for what it is. Fighting in hockey sees two men circle each other, and then, using their bare fists, punch each other in the face. This continues until one or both combatants fall to the ice, whereupon the fighters will be smothered by the referees. A fight will also be said to have ended if one of its participants is lain on the ice, unconscious. Presumably, a fighter dying in the line of duty would also signal the end of a duel. Not even hockey can condone the spectacle of someone thumping lumps out of a corpse.

Let's imagine that you're an American family, off to enjoy an evening of sport. Better yet, let's imagine you're a Canadian family - much more poster friendly. "What do you fancy going to see tonight, eh?" asks Dad, from somewhere in the Toronto suburbs. "Wow, I know!" says Mom. "Let's go and see the Maple Leafs play! They're up against the Montreal Canadiens. We might get to see them beat someone half to death!" "By a man using his bare fists?" ask the kids. "You betcha!" answers Pop. "Yay!" they all yell. "Hooray!"

Can't quite see it happening, can you? Yet hockey likes nothing better than to present itself as a family activity, which it does with some success. For while the magazine Sports Illustrated describes the game as having a "moral vacuum" at its core (a phrase I cannot hope to better), what it also has is a rich vein of euphemism. So bare-knuckle beatings are merely "dust-ups", players "going at it" are participants willing "to drop the gloves" or who "enjoy the physical play". They are not, so far as I know, referred to as "psychopaths engaging in an activity which, if indulged in in the arena's car park, would see both of them in court".

These days the National Hockey League likes to refer to itself as "The New NHL". Since the league lost its entire 2004-05 season to a labour dispute that did no one but the NBA any good, rules have been tweaked to make the game speedier and more attractive to the eye. These rule changes favour the skilful player, a consequence of which has seen a reduction in the number of fights. And while last season's Stanley Cup-winning Anaheim Ducks did buck the trend with their willingness to indulge in (ahem) "Old-Time Hockey", these days you're more likely, much more likely, to see hockey without violence than with.

Still, try this. Ask a friend to respond to the words "ice hockey" with the first thing that springs to mind, and the reply will probably be something to do with fighting. This is the sport's enduring image. Rarely mentioned is the phenomenal skill involved in controlling a three-inch wide, one-inch thick lump of rubber while skidding about the ice at more than 30 miles an hour. No one seems to know about the 61 all-time records set by Wayne Gretzky, a sporting poster boy whose achievements eclipse even those of Michael Jordan. No, it's fighting that catches the eye of those who aren't really watching.

The theory works like this: the NHL's skilful players need protecting from the opposing team's physical players by having physical players of their own to rely on. It's like a sporting arms race... actually, it's a sporting fist race. So Sydney Crosby, flush-faced phenom of the Pittsburgh Penguins, needs arch-goon George Laraque's hulking presence to allow him the freedom to perform. This is certainly true, but it's true because the NHL allows it to be so. Players who fight are not ejected from the game, instead they sit for five minutes in the penalty box. What this is is a slap on the knuckles.

It is also reckoned that fighting acts as a pressure valve and thus excludes the nastier aspects of the game from becoming too prevalent. These arguments (and I told you we'd get bogged down in them, didn't I?) are as predictable as hearing Hey Ho, Let's Go at a Ramones concert.

I hate to break up the routine, but here are some things to consider. In 2000, Boston Bruins' "enforcer" Marty McSorley blindsided Vancouver Canucks "tough guy" Donald Brashear with his stick, causing Brashear to convulse wildly on the ice. (McSorley was convicted of assault.) In 2004, Canucks star player Todd Bertuzzi broke the neck of Colorado Avalanche skater Steve Moore by punching him from behind and then following him to the ice. And just last week Philadelphia Flyer Jesse Boulerice (whose antics once incurred a one-year ban from playing in the minor Ontario Hockey League) was suspended for 25 games, almost a third of a season, for a cross-check to the face of Canuck Ryan Kesler which left its victim very much dazed and contused. The frankly crackers idea that fighting prevents violence doesn't really seem to be working, does it?

You might have guessed by now that when it comes to scrapping in hockey, I am the host of an Islington dinner party. I want to see it banned. It's not so much that it shows the sport in a bad light - although, yes, it does - but that it's unrepresentative of what really goes on. It's a bit like talking about Bob Dylan and concentrating solely on the fact that he's Jewish. And while the essential crux of the NHL's fighting conundrum might make the Palestinian question seem like the opening round of The Weakest Link (yes, dammit, I too feel the surge of adrenalin when two players "drop the gloves"), the truth is that it's time to say this, and to say it out loud.

Smell the smelling salts. Fighting's gotta go.

10-17-2007, 07:00 PM
Caption the pic

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/sports.aol.com/fanhouse/media/2007/10/capt_49d1d695b16441799e6a432caebbe368_sharks_canuc ks_hockey_rxl106.jpg

Ummmm iam going to guess Qdoba Poblano Pesto Burrito

10-17-2007, 07:54 PM


Truth be told, the chair didn't play that badly. It didn't get out of position, blocked a few shots and probably had a better plus-minus than some of the players.

While the chair left some of the Canuck players scratching their heads ,it was an example of the Vancouver coaching staff searching for ways to improve an NHL team that has struggled to win faceoffs, has suffered too many defensive breakdowns and is third in the Western Conference for goals allowed.

During a drill, the chair was placed about four metres inside the blue-line. The idea was for the Canuck defencemen to keep their heads up, try to shoot around the obstacle, and get some pucks on net.

"I don't think I've seen that one," said defenceman Aaron Miller, a 13-year veteran. "I really wanted to hit it."

Goaltender Roberto Luongo shrugged.

"I skated with a chair once when I was five," he said.

Miller understood what the coaches wanted.

"We have to work on getting our shots through," he said. "We've had too many shots blocks.

"Those are the measures the coaches are taking. I guess every little tool you can use to try and make yourself better is fine with me."

Coach Alain Vigneault was asked if the chair experiment was a success.

"I'll tell you after the next game," he grinned. "That, like other areas of our game, we need to improve on and get better."

A 4-2 loss to the San Jose Sharks Monday night left Vancouver with a 3-3-0 record. A team that is built on playing solid defence has given up 21 goals this season and has seen its penalty kill sink to 15th in the league.

Luongo has already faced 165 shots this season. Only Martin Gerber in Ottawa has faced more.

Defensive breakdowns and bad decisions have resulted in turnovers in the Vancouver zone. That means Luongo has to be almost perfect for the Canucks to win.

"That's what being a goalie is all about," said Luongo. "I can't worry about the breakdowns happening in front of me. My job is to make sure that when a breakdown occurs I'm ready to make a save."

Of the Canucks who have played four or more games, only Alex Burrows and Jeff Cowan are plus-1.

"We can't just rely on Roberto making save after save," said Canuck captain Markus Naslund, who has two goals and is minus-4. "We have to be strong in front of him and limit the chances and stay out of the penalty box to keep the score down."

Vigneault said better defence will result in more goals for the Canucks.

"Playing good defence enables us to make good offensive chances," he said.

Faceoffs are another area of concern. The Canucks are ranked near the bottom of the league in winning draws.

"Such a big key to winning games now is puck possession," said Naslund. "It starts with faceoffs and protecting the puck, not throwing it away."

Defenceman Willie Mitchell agreed there is lots of room for improvement but cautioned the season is still early. Last year the Canucks struggled until Christmas, then went on a tear in the New Year to win the Northwest Division.

"Last night we had a game where we fell apart after they got a little momentum," said Mitchell. "Next time a team gets one (goal) on us . . . we are going to handle that situation better."

Vancouver received some good news when the league informed the team forward Matt Cooke's game misconduct Monday for leaving the bench has been erased. Reviews showed Cooke was already on the ice when a melee broke out with about 28 seconds left in the third period.

"I knew it was non-issue," said Cooke. "I didn't go out on the ice to get into an altercation."

Cooke said the Canucks have the talent to play better. They just have to use it.

"I don't know if it's so much defence as it is communicating and making sure the effort is there," he said. "Making sure the intensity is where it's supposed to be for the entire 60 minutes."

The Canucks face the Los Angels Kings at home Friday, then begin a four-game road trip with stops in Columbus, Carolina, Detroit and Washington.

Vigneault said the team is close to playing the way he wants it.

"I don't think we're that far away," he said. "We've had moments in games where we haven't looked as sharp."

10-17-2007, 08:11 PM
I guess karma finally caught up with Mr bertuzzi...

Todd Bertuzzi was put on the injured reserve list for a concussion after being further evaluated this morning. Bertuzzi suffered the concussion in Sunday’s game against the Minnesota Wild when Derek Boogaard checked him hard in the offensive zone. Bertuzzi left the game in the first period after he was hit and did not return. The one week time frame is a minimum as the league requires that he be completely symptom free for a week before he is cleared to return.

Link (http://ducks.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=338565)

10-17-2007, 08:18 PM
Check out Kopi's sick move in the shootout-


10-17-2007, 08:42 PM
Tapeleg does a kicka** job addressing a subject that has been bothering me lately.


10-17-2007, 08:47 PM
Check out Kopi's sick move in the shootout-



10-17-2007, 08:50 PM
TORONTO -- Some NHL players are about to find out if heated skate blades will make the cut.

Six to 10 players will try them first. If there are no glitches, the blades then would begin appearing in NHL games.

"The NHL is very interested in confirming the data provided by Therma Blade Inc. to establish the safety and reliability of the blade under NHL game conditions and we have agreed to allow a small group of players to test these blades in practices over the next few weeks," said Kris King, the NHL's senior manager of hockey operations.

King said once he receives from the company a list of players who want to participate, he and Stu Grimson of the NHL players union will review it and decide who'll be asked to wear the blades.

The NHLPA welcomes trials for the heated blades.

"There is a lot of interest among players throughout the NHL right now to see how Thermablade performs under game conditions," said Grimson, the union's associate counsel.

Thermablades use a rechargeable battery and a microprocessor within each skate blade to maintain a temperature of 41 degrees. The warm blade increases the thickness of the water layer between the blade and the ice surface, and the company said its tests have shown this reduces gliding friction and starting resistance for skaters.

The charged battery in each blade will last for about two games. Fingers placed on sensors on either side of the rear of the plastic blade holder for three seconds activates the battery to warm the blade. The system automatically turns off when a player is idle on the bench, and the energy of returning to the ice reactivates the system. The system is turned off by repeating the process used to turn it on.

Wayne Gretzky was so impressed with Thermablades when he tried them more than three years ago that he invested in the company.

"I should still be playing," a smiling Gretzky said while skating on the blades for a video shown during the product launch at the Hockey Hall of Fame on Tuesday.

The Phoenix Coyotes coach said he wishes his players could get them first because Thermablades will "revolutionize the game of hockey."

10-18-2007, 01:43 AM
Check out Kopi's sick move in the shootout-


PFT its been done, its alot easier in a shootout tho when you dont have a defender chasing you

this is how it should look (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w68wgjU5318)

still a nice move tho

and the only reason i remember this is cuz it was one of the few bright spots of the season last year.

10-18-2007, 02:16 AM
PFT its been done, its alot easier in a shootout tho when you dont have a defender chasing you

this is how it should look (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w68wgjU5318)

still a nice move tho

and the only reason i remember this is cuz it was one of the few bright spots of the season last year.

Never said I have never seen it done before. It's a sick move and it requires serious skill to do it. I believe the move is called the super swede move, it is in the NHL 2k8 game I think, where Forsberg and others have done it.


EDIT: here is forsberg doing the super swede move.


10-18-2007, 10:54 AM
i like the ryan-malone-goal-from-my-ass-to-win-the-game

10-19-2007, 04:51 PM
The Toronto Sun reports the Kings have joined the fray to sign unrestricted free agent Peter Forsberg. It is believed Forsberg would like to be reunited with Kings coach Marc Crawford. Colorado, Detroit, Ottawa and Philadelphia have also expressed an interest in signing the forward. (updated: 10/09/2007)


10-19-2007, 04:51 PM
Link (http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/AHL/2007/10/19/4589714-cp.html)

SPRINGFIELD, Mass. - It appears the American Hockey League is also coming down hard on hits to the head.

Former NHL defenceman Dale Purinton of the Lake Erie Monsters has been suspended by the AHL for 25 games for a hit to the head of Iowa Stars forward Marius Holtet.

The suspension comes after the NHL recently suspended Flyers forward Steve Downie 20 games and teammate Jesse Boulerice 25 games, both were for hits to the head.

Holtet suffered a concussion and was not expected in the lineup for his team's road game against the Milwaukee Admirals on Friday.

Purinton was assessed a match penalty with no time remaining in the second period for punching an unsuspecting opponent and causing injury on Wednesday.

"An incident such as this has no place in our game," AHL president David Andrews said in announcing the suspension Friday. "Mr. Purinton struck Marius Holtet in the head from behind with a gloved fist after the completion of play.

"This was a dangerous and deliberate action by a player who is a repeat offender."

Purinton, 31, played minor hockey in Calgary and has bounced around since helping the Lethbridge Hurricanes reach the Memorial Cup final in 1997.

The NHL suspended him for 10 games on Oct. 4, 2005, when he was with the New York Rangers, for an attempt to eye-gouge Colton Orr in a pre-season game.

During 2004-05, when he was playing for the ECHL's Victoria Salmon Kings, he was suspended for refusing to stop fighting and pulling the hair of an opponent. The Salmon Kings released him.

Other NHL suspensions include a three-game ban in February 2002 for a sucker-punch on Jason Blake of the New York Islanders; seven games in October 2001 for a cross-check to the head of Washington's Stephen Peat; four games for beating up goaltender Garth Snow in a pre-season game in September 2001.

He last played an NHL game in 2003-2004. In 181 NHL games, Purinton scored four goals and assisted on 16 while amassing 578 penalty minutes.

Holtet, 23, had one goal in five games this season. He was selected 42nd overall by the Dallas Stars in the 2002 NHL entry draft. It was the higheset a Norwegian-born player had been drafted in league history.

10-19-2007, 05:25 PM
TheNeilShow - The NHL still seems to be struggling to grow a fan base in the USA. What can Mr. Bettman and the League do better, in your opinion, to get the game to progress in the United States?

John Buccigross - I don’t think commissioners or P.R. departments can do much of anything. Hockey is a popular, niche sport. It allows Thomas Vanek to make 7 million dollars a year. It may not rate all that great on television, but it’s a successful international sport that has plenty of revenue streams.
The arenas are full, the franchise values are rising, and the players are rich. What more do people want? I don’t care how popular the NHL is. It doesn’t affect my love of the game at all if one other person is watching a game or one million other people are watching.

TheNeilShow - Do you see the NHL and ESPN working together again? Any specific reasons why or why not?

John Buccigross - ESPN is always interested in any major or minor sports league who is in the last year of a contract. Whether it’s the NFL, NBA, MLB, Arena League, MLS, or professional golf and tennis they will always at least investigate if it makes financial sense to do something. If it makes sense they do it, if it doesn’t, they don’t.

TheNeilShow - If you could make any rule changes in the NHL, what changes would you make and why?

John Buccigross - I would make the net a little bigger. The goalies’ equipment is too good and the goalies are too good.

TheNeilShow - Can you tell me about your golf experience with, Boston Bruins Great, Ray Bourque?

John Buccigross - We’ve played together just twice. The first time I was attempting to three putt on the final hole in order to shoot a 77 playing with Ray Bourque. I thought that would be appropriate. I was going to ease theputt near the hole, tap the next putt an inch or so, and then tap in for 77. Instead I made a slippery 20 foot downhill putt on the last to shoot 75.

The other time was a fun match where Ray Ferraro and I defeated Ray and his buddy Reggie Lemelin. Ray Bourque is the gift that keeps on giving. He has no downside.

TheNeilShow - I have heard nothing but good things about a book you just released through Middle Atlantic Press called “Jonesy: Put Your Head Down And Skate” can you tell us a little about that and what an experience that was.

John Buccigross - People seem to like it which is great. It’s just a simple little hockey story with some different twists. Most NHL players did not take the path Keith did. He has had an interesting and humorous life that people seem to enjoy so far. It was a difficult process.

Writing is difficult and writing a book is very difficult. The best part is when you are done. But, it is a great thrill to walk through a Borders and see your book on the shelf.
Hopefully, I can learn from the experience and enjoy more the next time! I’ve started interviewing Barry Melrose for a book on his life that I hope can be released next fall.

TheNeilShow - What was your favorite story of Keith Jones in your “Jonesy” book?

John Buccigross - My favorite stories involving Keith are the ones that shaped his interesting and successful outlook and approach to life.

TheNeilShow - What’s your greatest accomplishment in your career so far?

John Buccigross - My greatest accomplishment? I don’t think I’ve done anything in this business that I would describe as an accomplishment. I’m just happy to get a paycheck every two weeks doing this.

TheNeilShow - I like to ask this question a lot because I love the answers. Any embarrassing on air moments with ESPN you can share?

John Buccigross - My chair has sunk on the air twice. But, it paid off. Dick Clark has used it on a blooper show and I got like 100 bucks. So, it paid off.

TheNeilShow - Do you see Peter Forsberg coming back this year? if so who do you bet he signs with?

John Buccigross - I think Forsberg will sign with the Rangers or Flyers.

TheNeilShow - Do you see Don Waddell in his coaching role for very long in Atlanta? Have you heard who could be the new bench boss of the Thrashers?

John Buccigross - I would think Don Waddel has too many manager concerns to coach for the entire season. They have to decide on Marian Hossa. Will they sign him? Will he want to sign with Atlanta? If not, they must trade him and you can’t do that and coach.

TheNeilShow –Habs’ star, Alexei Kovalev, is once again in the news for all the wrong reasons. There have been some strong suggestions he may be headed West to Calgary for a Alex Tanguay, do you think this has any legs?

John Buccigross - I don’t want to waste a second of my time thinking about Alexi Kovalev. He’s finished.

TheNeilShow - The Buffalo Sabres are missing Daniel Briere and Chris Drury. Now, a lot of so called “experts” have said they will tank this season, do you see that happening?

John Buccigross - No way! The Sabres are a still a playoff team. I had them making the playoffs in my ESPN.Com season preview, and from what I’ve seen nothing has changed my mind.

TheNeilShow -Who comes out of the Eastern Conference and the Western Conference this year?

John Buccigross - From what I’ve seen so far, I’ll say Ottawa and Anaheim.

TheNeilShow - Your early “rookie of the year” pick?

John Buccigross - Jonathan Toews will win rookie of the Year

TheNeilShow - Can you tell our readers here at nhldigest.com what you do and where we can find you and your writings.

John Buccigross -I am a Sportscenter anchor and a hockey columnist on ESPN.Com’s NHL page. My column comes out every Tuesday with an email bag of questions from readers that I answer on Thurdays. I hope you like it. www.espn.com

John’s book link: You can buy “Jonesy” direct from Middle Atlantic Press here

I would encourage you all to pick up John’s book “Jonesy”.It is a very good read.
Look for more from TheNeilShow throughout the season as he interviews various sports media members as well as coaches and players from around the NHL.

If you have any questions or comments, please share a comment on the site or email Neil at theneilshow(@)nhldigest.com

10-19-2007, 06:28 PM
Great read by Bleu, Blanc et Rouge

Link (http://onveutlacoupe.blogspot.com/2007/10/league-inconsistant-with-flagrant.html)

Lost in all the noise of the Avalanche bouncing back from a horrible loss to the Blues by beating Columbus 5-1, of Joe Sakic bagging a hat trick, of Peter Budaj and Pascal Leclaire putting on clinics at both ends of the ice, of Rick Nash displaying the skills of the rapidly disappearing power forward genre, was ANOTHER flagrant use of the stick. In the waning moments of the third period, with Colorado in control, the role-players and depth guys for the Avs were seeing increased ice-time, including some unlikely PP time for some. Columbus blueliner Duvie Westcott was dry-humping Avs forward Wyatt Smith to the left of Leclaire well behind the play when Scott "Captain Caveman" Parker skated over to do some policing as the refs were apparently enjoying the snuff film on ice. Before Parker has time to utter any catchy one-liners he gets cross-checked in the face by Westcott. Parker was bloodied by the cheap shot, but didn't go down. He then proceeded to have an Incredible Hulk-like rage-fest. Thankfully, all-around good guy and humanitarian Ian Laperriere stepped in to prevent Parker from ending Westcott.

Westcott got 2 plus 10, Parker got 2 for apparently bleeding too much. Now, I know that it was a preventive measure to keep things from getting out of hand, and I commend the refs. A few seconds later, Columbus "tough-guy" Ole-Kristian Tollefsen (6'-2", 211 lbs) decides that with Parker off the ice he has free reign to prove his manhood. He takes a run at, and then attempts to rough up, Jaroslav Hlinka (5'-10, 185 lbs). Hlinka has great hands, but I doubt they've ever been balled up in fists in his entire life. The play further enraged Parker who had to be restrained again by teammates to prevent him from leaving the box. Tollefsen and Parker both get the gate in order to avoid incident, and the game ends shortly thereafter.

Now, anybody reading the NHL propaganda would believe that they want to protect players and keep these kind of flagrant cross-checks and stick-work out of the game, right? I mean, didn't' they just hand down lengthy suspensions for Downie and Boulerice? Therefore, a lengthy suspension for Westcott would be forthcoming, right? Wrong. No discussion immediately after the game or in the ensuing three days has indicated any meaningful penalty for Westcott's dangerous act. Instead, he gets the proverbial wrist-slap of a $1000 US fine. That'll teach him!

I have several problems with this, and none of them stem from my unabashed man-love for the Avs.

* The league has effectively taken the stand that Parker is not as important as Dean McAmmond or Ryan Kessler, who also were victims of vicious cross-checks and dangerous blows to the head this season. As I've noted elsewhere, conspiracy theorists will point to this as another example of the NHL attempting to weed-out enforcers and tough-guys.

* Since the only difference between the Kessler, McAmmond, and Parker hits was that Parker didn't go down in a heap on the ice due to the hit, whether the league meant to or not, they are implying that suspensions will only be handed out if damage is done. This inadvertently encourages diving in my opinion. Following the old Gordan Bombay tactic of "Take the hit, act hurt, get indignant." Not a good direction for the league.

* The Avalanche broadcasters were reveling in the look of bat-crap crazy rage that Parker had following the incident. They were talking about Parker "taking notes" for the next game against Columbus. Having been on the receiving end of misplaced "revenge" just a few years ago with the Bertuzzi-Moore incident, I expected them to be better than that.

* Tollefsen is leading the running for "Wuss-of-the-Year" for backing down from a fight with Parker earlier in the period and then showing his manhood against Hlinka. Tollefsen if first-class all the way...

* I foresee lengthy suspensions for somebody following what will likely be ugly incidents that occur in the next Avs-BJ's tilt. Proper league action to address the first incident (the Westcott cross-check) would have prevented that, but the NHL has again missed the boat. This will INVARIABLY lead to more of the stellar, unbiased press coverage from the media that the league seems to not be able to keep away from.

* To the best of my knowledge, Westcott has not sent a thank-you note to Lappy thanking him for saving his life. You figure a nice Hallmark at the least since Duvie would have likely required a closed casket if Lappy hadn't stepped in. How rude...

All-in-all, the lack of any cohesive disciplinary action by the NHL has again shown the league office's inconsistent application of the rules of the league. Don't they understand that the ACTION should warrant punishment just as much as, if not more than, the result? That is the only way that stuff like this will be weeded out of the game.

Hercules Rockefeller
10-19-2007, 08:45 PM
Toews' goal against the Avs just now was sick

10-19-2007, 08:47 PM
Toews' goal against the Avs just now was sick

It was a sweet set of moves everybody was admiring it too...

10-19-2007, 08:49 PM
Looks like Qs stupid musical goalies crap i paying off again, budaj should be statring this game.

10-19-2007, 08:59 PM
Put budaj in Q and please wake up the D they fell asleep again.

10-19-2007, 10:31 PM
3-3 amazing

10-19-2007, 10:57 PM
theo sucks

10-21-2007, 01:35 PM
Save of the night (http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/save_of_the_night/)

10-22-2007, 02:32 AM
theo sucks

Kings rescind their offer of Cloutier for Theo.;)

10-22-2007, 03:22 PM
Kings rescind their offer of Cloutier for Theo.;)

We will thrown in 5 pucks and one of the last remaining teeth in Dino Cicerellis head.

10-22-2007, 05:46 PM
Great stat site is back up: It compares a player's +/- to his team's +/- when he's off the ice.

Link (http://www.behindthenet.ca/2007/player_plusminus.html)

Daily updates are coming soon (http://www.behindthenet.ca/whats_new.html)

10-22-2007, 06:30 PM

The maximum fine allowed under the CBA is $2,500.

If Torres is subject to any future supplementary discipline from the league, he will be considered a repeat offender because of the fine.

Torres landed a blindsided hit to the head of Moss in Saturday's contest, knocking him out of the game with a concussion. He returned briefly in the Flames' 4-1 victory, but was then pulled for precautionary reasons. Torres received a tripping penalty on the play.

''I'm sure it looked like a head shot, but if I was really trying to hurt him, I would have put my elbow up or my shoulder. His jaw hit me. He ran into me,'' Torres told the Edmonton Journal.

''Apparently, Torres has some history of doing that, '' Calgary coach Mike Keenan said. ''I don't know that myself personally . that was the feedback I had from our coaches.''

Last November, Torres hit then Red Wings forward Jason Williams with his shoulder with enough impact to send him face-first to the ice, taking 30 stitches to repair a cut on Williams' forehead.

A year earlier, Torres knocked Milan Michalek out of two playoff games with an open-ice hit in the Oilers series against the San Jose Sharks.

10-23-2007, 12:20 AM
Toews' goal against the Avs just now was sick


yeah that was nice

10-23-2007, 06:30 PM

Digital version (http://www.kuklaskorner.com/Openads/www/delivery/ck.php?oaparams=2__bannerid=1413__zoneid=0__cb=b68 ff85f30__maxdest=http://pkwjr.thockynews.hop.clickbank.net/)

10-23-2007, 06:38 PM
The leaders through the October 21 games are as follows...

Team No. Player Pen. Drawn

This guy is going to refresh the stats on a regular bases

Link (http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc9iV9RP9nEfEeHfjd76yKw)

10-23-2007, 07:20 PM
Poor blackhawks fans finally get (some) home games televised..


In his first major move with the Blackhawks, Rocky Wirtz is trying to do what fans long have asked for: televise the team's home games.

In a Monday memo, Wirtz told employees that Blackhawks representatives met with Comcast SportsNet executives last week about getting some home games on the air during the current season.

It's important to understand that CSN's current schedule was developed well over a year ago, so fitting the Hawks into that schedule can't be done overnight," wrote Wirtz, who succeeded his late father, William Wirtz, as head of the family's $1.3 billion business empire earlier this month. "But it can be done and ... we are convinced it is the appropriate next step to re-energizing Chicago hockey fans and creating new fans."

A source within Wirtz Corp. says up to a half-dozen home games may be broadcast this season, the majority of them coming by the end of this year. The first game most likely will be Nov. 11 against the Detroit Red Wings.

CSN already is scheduled to broadcast 39 of 41 of the Hawks' road games this season.

Wirtz also said the team is working on a "long-term strategy" for televising more home games in future seasons.

His move is a departure from the long-standing practice of his father and grandfather, longtime Hawks owner Arthur Wirtz, who chose to black out home games so season ticket-holders were not paying for something they could see for free by staying home.

"You have to appreciate his loyalty," said Marc Ganis, president of Chicago sports business consulting firm Sportscorp, "but it came at a cost. Clearly, Rocky is trying to change that."

The cost for the Hawks was a smaller fan base, which had to work hard to stay connected with the team, Ganis said.

Finding time on the air should be relatively easy for the Hawks because the team is a part-owner of local cable station Comcast SportsNet, as are the Bulls, White Sox and Cubs. The Cubs, along with this newspaper, are owned by Tribune Co.

Jim Corno, president of Comcast SportsNet Chicago, confirmed that the network is "moving forward with the concept of airing some Blackhawk homes games" this season. He described the talks as being in the "preliminary stages" and said further details will be revealed in the "very near future."

It shouldn't be hard to drum up advertisers once the home games are scheduled, sports marketing experts said. Although hockey fans are a smaller part of the population than fans of other pro sports, their demographics skew higher in terms of education and income, Ganis said.

"Sponsors are calling. They're dialing the phone off the hook with a ton of interest," the Wirtz source said.

In a move that surprised many in the Blackhawks organization, Rocky Wirtz took control of the team in early October.

His younger brother, Peter, had long been expected to take over the franchise, but Peter declined his brother's request to stay on, saying he wanted to focus his efforts on the family's food-service business.

10-24-2007, 12:17 AM
New Stars Airplane...apparently the Stars owner bought the team a new airplane. Very nice.


10-24-2007, 05:05 PM
Just a tidbit i found...


Coyotes goaltender David Aebischer cleared waivers Wednesday and will report to the San Antonio Rampage of the AHL, joining the team in Chicago.

Aebsicher, 29, was one of three goalies on the Coyotes rosters, and he will be in a similar position with San Antonio. Signed as a free agent, Aebischer appeared in one game this season, stopping 30 of 33 shots in a 3-0 loss at Columbus on Oct. 10.

Coach Wayne Gretzky said that with defenseman Zbynek Michalek returning from the injured list, room was needed on the roster.

Phoenix entered the season with a goalie trio that also included Mikael Tellqvist and Alex Auld, another free agent.

“The worst thing , the first three weeks of the season for us, we haven't had a lot of games,” Gretzky said. “So Aebischer in a lot of ways probably had a right to feel he didn't get a really good chance. But we just haven't had enough games to give him that chance.”

10-24-2007, 07:45 PM

EDMONTON, Alberta — Ryan Smyth needn’t have worried about the kind of reception he would receive on his first visit to Rexall Place as a member of the enemy.

It was as welcome as the unseasonably warm temperature outside.

Edmonton Oilers fans are as passionate as ever about their hockey team, but they haven’t forgotten the big goals or lunch-pail work ethic Smyth provided during his 111/2 seasons with the team.

Aside from a smattering of boos late in the game Tuesday night, the 31-year-old left wing was treated like an old friend before the Avalanche skated to a 4-2 win, its first on the road in five attempts this season.

"We needed a win badly," coach Joel Quenneville said. "The last two losses were stinging. We got the win, we got what we were looking for."

Smyth looked relieved afterward to have this first of eight regular-season games against his former teammates over with, and he was especially happy to exit the arena with an important win.

"The team pulled through," said Smyth, adding that Ian Laperriere gave a little pep talk in the locker room before the game.

"He said, ‘Let’s do this one for Smitty,’ " Smyth said. "Everybody really stepped up, played well. A lot of guys came to congratulate me after the game."

The sellout crowd of 16,839 cheered when Smyth, who was traded to the New York Islanders in February after a contract dispute and signed as a free agent with the Avalanche in July, skated onto the ice for the warm-up.

There was more applause when he flipped a couple of pucks over the glass to some fans — it’s a routine he began several years ago — before leaving the ice for the locker room.

And Smyth was given a rousing standing ovation when highlights of his time in Edmonton were shown on the large video boards above the ice. Smyth became emotional while watching in front of the Avalanche bench, as did his wife, Stacey, who was sitting in the stands.

"It was very emotional and a very nice gesture and a nice tribute to myself and my family, and quite an honor to come back to the city that you started your NHL career with and be recognized like I was," Smyth said. "The fans were great, and I really appreciate that.

"A lot of things run through your mind. You see those pictures that flash through ... there’s a lot of great memories that I’ll remember forever and I’ll cherish them."

Smyth didn’t collect a point, but he managed four shots on goal in 21 minutes, 25 seconds of ice time.

"He was very happy," said goalie Peter Budaj, who had 25 saves. "He said, ‘Great job, guys’ — just the regular thing. He didn’t say we had to win. We knew we had to get off to a good start and start winning on the road."

For the first time in four games, the Avalanche started the scoring and grabbed a 3-1 lead in the first period but didn’t do much the rest of the game until defenseman Brett Clark scored an empty-net goal with 17.6 seconds to play.

"It was the first time in a while that we had the lead, and we didn’t do a lot with it, which was disappointing," Quenneville said. "You could tell that we weren’t comfortable at the end of the game. I think the win should make us a little bit more patient as we go forward."

After the game, Clark presented Smyth with the game-clinching puck.

"That really means a lot to me," Smyth said. "The fact that I played here for such a long time is the thing that (Avalanche teammates) recognized. I appreciate that."

The Oilers outshot the Avalanche 12-4 in a scoreless second period, held the visitors to one shot in the first 11 minutes of the third and closed to 3-2 on a goal by defenseman Tom Gilbert at the 10:45 mark.

Tyler Arnason, who had 11 points in eight games against the Oilers last season, collected a goal on a two-on-one rush and an assist on Jaroslav Hlinka’s first NHL goal, in the opening period.

The Oilers tied the score when Dustin Penner scored on a two-on-one rush, but the Avalanche responded 23 seconds later when Hlinka knocked in a juicy rebound left by goalie Dwayne Roloson.

Wojtek Wolski, who has two goals and four assists in a five-game point-scoring streak, scored what proved to be the winning goal by poking the puck from underneath Roloson’s pad into the net.

10-24-2007, 09:56 PM
Watching the flames/wild tilt and all i can say is the wild are a freak machine question is can it go the distance.

Well the flames came back and beat the wild lol........

10-25-2007, 06:44 PM
I just thought this was pretty cool...


Telus has designed a interactive website that allows you to follow your favorite QMJHL team, and watch their games streamed live on the internet. So the next time you want to see the top prospect from your favorite NHL team.

10-25-2007, 10:05 PM
Now this is just funny.....

Monstervskid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3_ghTTQefI)

10-25-2007, 11:27 PM

A Chris Pronger-size defenseman, a center with NHL in his blood and the rugged son of a former college football standout give the American hockey program a chance to continue the trend of strong NHL draft showings.

Based on early season reviews, there seem to be four to six Americans with strong first-round potential, led by 6-7 defenseman Tyler Myers of the Western Hockey League and Boston University center Colin Wilson. He is the son of Carey Wilson, who played 13 seasons in the NHL with Calgary, Hartford and the New York Rangers.

Myers is a native Texan whose family moved to Alberta because his dad worked in the oil industry. Right now he's probably rated in 10 to 16 range, but some believe he has a chance to be another Pronger.

"He's a big kid and he skates well for his size," said Detroit Red Wings assistant general manager Jim Nill. "He handles the puck well. He's intriguing. Usually kids his size stumble around, but he's pretty smooth."

HOCKEY BLOG: A look at the top 2008 draft prospects

The majority view on Myers is that he is a possible top 10 pick, but the minority view is that he could climb as high as fourth or fifth in the draft.

Wilson played last season for the U.S. National Team Development Program in Ann Arbor, Mich., and he's considered a safe pick. There is no doubt he's going to be a solid NHL performer, although there are some minor concerns about his skating ability.

"He's a special player," said John Hynes, a coach in the U.S. program. "He will never get out-competed. But what gets underestimated about him is that he can make big plays and score. He's a pretty good offensive talent."

Another potential top 10 American draft pick is 6-2, 200-pound, rough-and-tumble defenseman Zach Bogosian, whose father, Ike, was co-captain of the 1981 Syracuse football team along with former New York Giant great Joe Morris. An upstate New Yorker, Bogosian now plays for the Peterborough Petes in the Ontario Hockey League.

"(Bogosian) is a tenacious competitor and he has a good sense of the game," Hynes said. "He moves his feet well for a big player. He has a lot of tools, but what you notice first is the competitive edge to his game."

The fourth-rated American is probably Jimmy Hayes, a 6-4, 200-pound power forward whose ranking has slipped because of a poor start.

"He's very committed, but his next step is to be able to use his size offensively, like when he has the puck down low around the net," Hynes said.

It's his misfortune that his draft year comes a year after James vanRiemsdyk, another big-bodied American forward, who was taken No. 2 overall by the Philadelphia Flyers. It's difficult to measure up to vanRiemdsyk, who has more polish and a better finishing touch as a scorer.

"They are two different players," Hynes said. "VanRiemsdyk doesn't have to have a ton of impact every shift to be effective. Jimmy is more of a regular blue-collar power forward. He has to be physical and use energy. That's when he's at his best."

Other potential first-round picks include Phil McRae, son of former NHL player Basil McRae who is playing in London, Ontario, and U.S. Under-18 team player Justin Florek, a 6-4 forward. He's also off to a slow start, "But in his prime he will be a good hard power forward," Hynes said. "He works at it and understands the game."

Some scouts like Vinny Saponari, a hard-working, two-way player with decent hands in traffic.

There are other intriguing players rated in the second round, Plymouth (Mich.) Whalers player A.J. Jenks and puck-handling defenseman Aaron Ness of Roseau (Minn.) High School.

A wild card might be Grant Scott of the U.S. Under-18 program, a 6-4 player who was switched from defense to forward. "He has adjusted well," Hynes said. "He's an aggressive player by nature. It's been easier to use his aggressiveness and speed more up front."

Right now it appears that the Americans won't come close to matching last year's unprecedented strong draft showing. With Patrick Kane (Chicago) and vanRiemsdyk in the first two picks and 10 Americans going in the first round, it was the best draft day in American hockey history.

Nearly 30% of the players chosen in that draft were American. In 2006, 10 Americans also were selected in the first round. This is trend that USA Hockey officials would like to see continued.

Hynes says it's too early to say the Americans can't reach that 30% mark next June at the draft in Ottawa, or even too early to say that only six Americans will be selected in the first round.

"There are a lot of very good players in this class," Hynes said. "And sometimes it takes some guys longer to (develop)."

He points out that Erik Johnson, selected No. 1 by the St. Louis Blues in 2006, and vanRiemsdyk both climbed during their draft years because their play improved dramatically. American defenseman Ian Cole also made a late jump to end up as a first-round selection by the St. Louis Blues.

"There might be a couple of guys who emerge later in the season," Hynes said.

One possibility for a late rise is U.S. Under-18 team player Sean Lorentz of Littleton, Colo.. He doesn't have superior, high-grade skill, but coaches will want to play him all of the time because he always seems to make the right play at the right time. He could be this year's American sleeper, maybe moving up like Cole did last season.

10-26-2007, 01:52 PM

The Colorado Avalanche Hockey Club announced today that defenseman Jordan Leopold will require wrist surgery following an injury suffered in the third period of Colorado’s 4-2 victory over the Edmonton Oilers on Tuesday night at Rexall Place.

Leopold will be sidelined for approximately two months.

Meanwhile Milan Hejduk, who has missed three games with a sore back, skated with the team today and may be available to play Friday night at Calgary. Jose Theodore is scheduled to get the start in net for Colorado in place of Peter Budaj.

10-26-2007, 03:33 PM

LOS ANGELES - The Los Angeles Kings and right wing Dustin Brown have agreed to terms on a six-year contract extension it was announced Friday by Kings President/General Manager Dean Lombardi. Per club policy, terms of the agreement were not announced.

"Dustin is an integral part of what we are building here with the Kings," said Lombardi. "We like how he competes; we like his toughness; and we are very pleased with how his overall game has developed."

Brown, 22, has been part of the Kings organization since the club selected him in the first-round (13th overall) of the 2003 NHL Entry Draft. He has played in 202 career regular season games over four NHL seasons with the Kings, recording 87 points (36-51=87) and 161 penalty minutes. This season, he has eight points (4-4=8) and 11 penalty minutes in 11 games.

Brown, a 6-0, 200-pound native of Ithaca, New York, last season set career highs for goals (17), power play goals (13), assists (14), points (46), shots (195), games played (81) and time on-ice average (18:42). He led the Kings and finished second in the NHL with 258 hits. He also tied for third on the Kings with 24 takeaways.

During the 2005-06 season, his second full NHL season and his third in the League, Brown led the Kings in hits with 175 while recording 14 goals and 14 assists. In 2004-05, he played the entire season with the Manchester Monarchs of the American Hockey League and finished second to Michael Cammalleri in scoring with 74 points (29-45=74) in 79 games. His 74 points ranked 13th in the AHL that season.

In 2003-04, Brown made his NHL debut at the age of 18, becoming the fifth youngest player to ever play for the Kings. He scored his first career NHL goal on November 23, 2003, and played in 31 games with the Kings that season.

Internationally, Brown has represented the United States at several international tournaments, including the 2006 World Championships where he led his team in goals and points; the 2004 World Championships where he earned a bronze medal; the 2003 World Junior Championships where he earned a gold medal; and the 2002 World Junior Championships where he was the youngest member of that team.



10-27-2007, 02:45 PM
In Wayne’s world, fighting will not be exorcized from the NHL, the notion of European expansion is unlikely and Pittsburgh’s dazzling megastar Sydney Crosby is the one young player who catches his eye the most.

Also, 10 years from now, The Great One hopes to still be doing exactly what he does today, yet with another Stanley Cup trophy in his already overflowing cache of triumphant hardware.

“My passion for the game – I love the game – is the reason why I’m here,” he said. “I wish I could still play. I don’t make any bones about it.”

Wayne Douglas Gretzky can not play professional hockey anymore, at least not to the standards he holds for himself. The 46-year-old native of Brantford, Ontario, however, is staying as close to the action as he possibly can as coach of the Phoenix Coyotes.

And he simply doesn’t see any reason for that to change.

“When I retired, I retired at the right time, yet people ask me still to this day, ‘Do you miss playing?’ Yeah, I miss everything about it,” said Gretzky, speaking one-on-one. “But the closest thing to being a player is what I’m doing right now.

“It wasn’t overly exciting for me to sit upstairs, or to sit in the press box. It just wasn’t the same. Now I’m down here, I like being down here and I like being in the locker room. Eventually this is going to be successful,” he added.

Gretzky’s time in the game has taken some surprising turns, so the fact he’s leading a hockey franchise located in a desert only seems fitting in an odd way.

The Phoenix Coyotes, transplanted from the frigid winters of Winnipeg, probably weren’t the first team the player who owns 61 NHL records, four Stanley Cups, 10 scoring titles and nine MVP awards figured to guide once his career ended.

“It’s a big challenge for him, but he’s never been one to not take a challenge,” said Scotty Bowman, who with 10 Stanley Cups to his name knows something about coaching in the NHL, too. “Some people feel sorry for him, wonder why is he coaching, but hey, he explained it better, ‘If I can’t play, and I can’t, then I’m still with the team’.”

After gracing NHL rinks from1979 to 1999, Gretzky ventured into his post-playing career in search of what would keep those competitive juices flowing. Make no doubt, all the awards and accolades were as much a result of his unending desire to win as his unparalleled hockey skills.

The trick would be to find a job that could satisfy his passion.

The Phoenix franchise needed assistance and Gretzky became a part owner in 2000. By the spring of 2002, the Coyotes were in the Stanley Cup playoffs and Gretzky was again talking one-on-one in the players’ parking lot at San Jose about how quickly things had come together after his team tied the first-round series at a win apiece with a road win.

But the Coyotes have not won a playoff game since, and the franchise has undergone not one, but two do-overs. Gretzky stepped behind the bench following the 2004-05 season lost to the lockout, and he’s finding the hours to be long and the reward to be minimal so far.

“You don’t leave the rink after 2½ hours and it can be taxing when you don’t achieve the success you want, you’re left to wonder, ‘why, why why’?” Anaheim’s Randy Carlyle said.

The coach of the defending Stanley Cup champs opposed Gretzky for all but three of his 18 NHL seasons as a helmetless defenseman. He wanted to stay as close to the game as possible after his playing career ended, and chose the coaching route as well.

“We’re creatures of habit,” Carlyle said. “When you’ve played for a number of years you’re in that habit of going to the rink. And when you get away from it sometimes you miss it a bit terribly. It’s not an easy thing to step away from and go do something else.

“I think it brings you back to the game with all the emotion and passion you had for it as a player.”

Gretzky is no longer working for Mike Barnett, his long-time agent turned general manager. Barnett was fired after last season’s third straight last-place finish for the ’Yotes. Ownership’s mandate is to build a winner, remain patient, but produce results. Gretzky is at the forefront to get the job done.

“Obviously we’ve changed our focus, we’re the youngest team in the league,” Gretzky said. “We have a lot of young kids in the organization now. That part of it has been really exciting for me. There is more teaching involved now with the younger players.

“You can feel for the first time in a long time we have kids not only playing who deserve to be here, but we’ve got kids that are in our system now that one day will play on this team. And there were times we had nobody in the system who would play,” he added.

Along with a change in philosophy in Phoenix, Gretzky has changed as well. After self-analysis, and talks with his peers, Gretzky isn’t as lenient as in the past. He’s not as apt to listen and change his personal direction or instruction to the team.

“I’m probably more demanding as far as it has to be more my way,” Gretzky said. “It’s really going to take a lot for someone to change my mind. I want every player playing the exact same way and play pretty simple. We want them chasing the puck, hounding the puck and working hard.”

Phoenix lost five of its first seven games and faced the unenviable task of trying to dig out of an early hole by facing Anaheim, Dallas, St. Louis and the Stars again, three coming on the road. The Coyotes started that stretch with a surprising 1-0 win Thursday on the home ice of the Ducks, who are still considered to have more talent and depth than Phoenix despite being hampered by injury and Cup hangover.

Gretzky hopes it’s the first solid evidence that his message is being heard and applied.

“What I think I try to preach to my guys is how important practice really is,” he said. “The greatest players in the game – Bobby Orr, Mario Lemieux, Mark Messier – were always great practice players. We try to stress that as much as possible.”

Along with the challenges of rebuilding, Gretzky has had to deal with controversy off the ice. In February of 2006, Gretzky’s assistant coach and ex-NHLer Rick Tocchet was implicated in a New Jersey-based gambling ring. Barnett and even Gretzky’s wife, American-born actress Janet Jones, were found to have placed bets through Tocchet, but not on hockey. Tocchet was recently sentenced to two years of probation, and is currently suspending by the league.

“It’s a tribute to him he can handle all the tough questions people are pulling out of different directions and he still remains focused and a true ambassador of the game,” Carlyle said.

Gretzky, already in the Hall of Fame, his number 99 retired by every NHL franchise and bestowed with the Order of Canada as the country’s highest civilian honor, is completely focused on coaching and turning his franchise into a consistent winner.

He’s taken what he learned from former coaches Glen Sather, Barry Melrose, Mike Keenan; what he garnered from associate coach Barry Smith and blended that with his own beliefs to become the coach he is today.

“I say this with a great deal of respect, I know as a player sometimes you sit there and say, ‘What is this coach thinking?’ ” Gretzky said. “Sometimes as a player you don’t understand why. And I was one of those guys sometimes, I admit to that. But as a coach there are reasons you do things. There are reasons you have to do things.”

The father of five children, widely regarded as the greatest player in the history of the game, knows there is pressure to win and win now. The Coyotes have a trendy new arena in the Phoenix suburb of Glendale, which some would argue was built too far away from the majority of the team’s fan base that resides in Scottsdale.

It’s not easy to negotiate the region’s one freeway, so Gretzky & Co. have to give fans a good reason to invest the time it takes to get there.

“We have a great deal of pressure, a different kind of pressure than Edmonton and Toronto,” Gretzky said. “But the good thing about that is it really is a great sports city.

“You look at the Phoenix Suns and the exciting brand of basketball they play and the support they get. We’ve had good support for the kind of record we’ve had. So we have to keep those fans and reach out and get new fans and more fans. We have a great building, it’s a great city to live in and hockey is expanding and growing.”

Ross McKeon is the NHL editor for Yahoo! Sports. Send Ross a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.


10-27-2007, 03:07 PM
FORSBERG: BUSINESSMAN (http://www.ottawasun.com/Sports/Hockey/2007/10/27/4609111-sun.html)

Wherever Peter Forsberg winds up if he returns to the NHL this season, money won't be the motivating factor. Or it shouldn't be. While he is working out and trying to sort out his foot and skate issues, Forsberg also is involved in a few lucrative business ventures in Sweden. According to reports, Forsberg owns the Swedish distribution rights to the Croc footwear. He also is on the verge of launching an airline.

10-27-2007, 03:09 PM
He will sign with the Kings to play for Crawford Bronx...haha.

10-27-2007, 03:20 PM
He will sign with the Kings to play for Crawford Bronx...haha.

Who knows (it could happen)

10-27-2007, 03:23 PM
new tell-all book reports


I find it hard to believe tell-all books like the one titled Bets, Drugs and Rock & Roll - particularly when it's written by someone who's called "the father of offshore gambling."

However, those who have read parts of this new book by Steve Bodin report that the author devotes "four pages painting Rangers captain Jaromir Jagr as very active in sports betting, especially football, but never hockey."

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette writer Shelly Anderson says Bodin describes games in which Jagr was later than his Rangers teammates in taking the ice because "he was on the phone in the locker room placing $40,000 bets."
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Bodin writes that while Jagr would win or lose up to $250,000 a week, he was a poor bettor who never made money over the course of a week.

On his part, Jagr told the New York Daily News: "Probably. I was betting on the Giants back then."

Washington signed Jagr to a $77-million contract when they acquired him from Pittsburgh that ran through this season, but gave up on him three seasons later. However, the Capitals are paying $3.46 million of the salary Jagr's receiving from the Rangers. Furthermore, according to the Washington Post the deal includes an option year which is triggered if he reaches certain levels such as: (a) scores 40 regular-season goals and the Rangers win a playoff round; (b) wins the league scoring title, the Hart Trophy or the Conn Smythe Trophy; or (c) gets 84 points and New York reaches at least the second round of the playoffs.

10-27-2007, 03:51 PM
Gretzky. Messier. Howe. Francis. Dionne. Yzerman. Lemieux.

Much like the monikers “Jordan” on the hardwood or “Montana” on the gridiron, those surnames have become synonymous with the sport of hockey, as their bearer’s rank among the most recognized and heralded players in the history of the game.

When it comes to on-ice achievements, the name Sakic doesn’t rank too far off.

Colorado Avalanche captain Joe Sakic recorded a goal and one assist in a 3-2 overtime victory over Calgary on Friday to reach 1,600 points in his career, further cementing his legacy as one of the top players to ever lace up a pair of skates.

Sakic opened the scoring in Friday night’s game with a first-period goal – which Andrew Brunette assisted on to earn his 500th career point – and also assisted on Ryan Smyth’s overtime game winner to join the seven aforementioned current and future Hall-of-Famers in the 1,600-point club.

But Sakic’s milestone on Friday wasn’t the captain’s first monumental achievement this season.

Earlier this year, Sakic passed Phil Esposito for eighth place on the all-time points list and also broke a tie with Bobby Hull for 14th place on the career goals list – in the same game, nonetheless– with a goal and an assist on Oct. 7 vs. San Jose.

Less than a week later, the 19-year veteran recorded his 15th career hat trick in an Oct. 13 contest against the Calgary Flames, placing him only one behind Peter Stastny for the franchise record.

Next up for Sakic? The center needs 15 more assists to become only the 11th player in league history to register 1,000 helpers.

Gretzky. Messier. Howe. Francis. Dionne. Yzerman. Lemieux…Sakic.

Has a nice ring, doesn’t it?

NHL’s All-Time Points Leaders
1. Wayne Gretzky 2857
2. Mark Messier 1887
3. Gordie Howe 1850
4. Ron Francis 1798
5. Marcel Dionne 1771
6. Steve Yzerman 1755
7. Mario Lemieux 1723
8. Super Joe Sakic 1600

10-27-2007, 03:53 PM
Andrew Brunette has played with five different NHL clubs during his 12-year career, but a quick look at his numbers suggests that the veteran forward has found his comfort zone in the altitude of the Rocky Mountains.

Brunette, who started his career with the Washington Capitals and also made stops in Nashville, Atlanta and Minnesota before arriving in Denver, recorded his 500th career NHL point on Friday against the Calgary Flames when he assisted on Joe Sakic’s first-period goal.

“I think when I look back on my career it will be something that really sticks out in my mind,” said the Avalanche assistant captain about cracking the 500-point barrier. “But I was just happy that we came away with a victory tonight against a division opponent.”

Prior to signing with the Avalanche in August of 2005, Brunette had enjoyed a fine career. In 542 career games, the winger had posted a solid 344 points (121g/223a), good for an average of 0.63 points per game. But things took a turn for the better when Brunette became a member of the Avalanche following the 2004-05 lockout season.

The gritty winger made an immediate impact in his first season in Denver by notching 63 points (24g/39a), the second-highest total of his career (he had recorded 69 points with Minnesota in 2001-02). It also marked the second time that Brunette had topped the 60-point plateau.

For an encore, the Sudbury, Ontario, native enjoyed a career-year in 2006-07, finishing second on the Avalanche in scoring and tying for 21st in the league with 83 points on 27 goals and 56 assists – all career bests.

Brunette has averaged nearly a point per game since joining the Avalanche
It also marked the first time that Brunette had averaged a point-per-game, something that he is on pace to do again this season with 10 points (2g/8a) in 10 games. Overall during his time with the Avalanche, Brunette has totaled 156 points on 53 goals and 103 assists in 173 contests (.90 PPG), a marked improvement over his pre-Colorado numbers.

Not only has Brunette carved out his own niche in the Avalanche’s offensive system as a grinder who relishes playing behind the net, but he has also become a fixture on the club’s lineup card.

Skating in 381 straight games is no small feat, but it’s another accomplishment on the 34-year old’s impressive resume. Currently, the streak ranks as the third-longest in the NHL. Looking back even further, his resiliency becomes even more impressive, as Brunette has appeared in 654-of-666 possible regular season contests dating back to the 1997-98 campaign.

Brunette doesn’t always show up in the headlines the way other more flashy players often do, but the durability and productivity he’s displayed during his three seasons in Colorado have made him one of the Avalanche’s unsung heroes.

10-27-2007, 08:04 PM
DENVER — Marian Gaborik injured his groin in practice Saturday and will miss Sunday's game against the Colorado Avalanche at Pepsi Center.

General manager Doug Risebrough said he made the decision to sit Gaborik as a precaution. The right wing is officially listed as day to day, which is how his 34-day layoff last season started.

"I'm definitely not going to miss 40 games again," Gaborik said.

Risebrough said Gaborik will see the team doctor when the team returns to the Twin Cities on Monday. He has not played a full season since going a career-high 81 games in 2002-03, limited to 65, 65 and 48 games because of upper leg injuries.

"He felt the last two games were really taxing. He's not comfortable with his legs right now," Risebrough said of Gaborik. "He tried this morning and he came off, and I talked to him and I made the decision, because I don't want it to progress to the point where he's missing lots of games."

Gaborik has played in all 10 of the Wild's games this season, scoring one goal among eight points.

Asked if he thinks the injury is similar to the groin injury that sent him to two specialists over two months of rehabilitation last season, Gaborik said, "Oh, no. It's not that."

That wasn't the only bad news the Wild absorbed at practice Saturday. No. 1 goaltender Niklas Backstrom also left practice early because of a groin injury and will not play against Colorado. He missed missed one game last season because of a groin

10-28-2007, 11:51 AM
Blog post just about every response from the east coast to the west coast in reference to player respect.

Respect (http://illegalcurve.blogspot.com/2007/10/morning-musings-when-will-players-learn.html)

Smiling Assassin27
10-29-2007, 11:12 AM
Gretzky. Messier. Howe. Francis. Dionne. Yzerman. Lemieux.

Much like the monikers “Jordan” on the hardwood or “Montana” on the gridiron, those surnames have become synonymous with the sport of hockey, as their bearer’s rank among the most recognized and heralded players in the history of the game.

When it comes to on-ice achievements, the name Sakic doesn’t rank too far off.

Colorado Avalanche captain Joe Sakic recorded a goal and one assist in a 3-2 overtime victory over Calgary on Friday to reach 1,600 points in his career, further cementing his legacy as one of the top players to ever lace up a pair of skates.

Sakic opened the scoring in Friday night’s game with a first-period goal – which Andrew Brunette assisted on to earn his 500th career point – and also assisted on Ryan Smyth’s overtime game winner to join the seven aforementioned current and future Hall-of-Famers in the 1,600-point club.

But Sakic’s milestone on Friday wasn’t the captain’s first monumental achievement this season.

Earlier this year, Sakic passed Phil Esposito for eighth place on the all-time points list and also broke a tie with Bobby Hull for 14th place on the career goals list – in the same game, nonetheless– with a goal and an assist on Oct. 7 vs. San Jose.

Less than a week later, the 19-year veteran recorded his 15th career hat trick in an Oct. 13 contest against the Calgary Flames, placing him only one behind Peter Stastny for the franchise record.

Next up for Sakic? The center needs 15 more assists to become only the 11th player in league history to register 1,000 helpers.

Gretzky. Messier. Howe. Francis. Dionne. Yzerman. Lemieux…Sakic.

Has a nice ring, doesn’t it?

NHL’s All-Time Points Leaders
1. Wayne Gretzky 2857
2. Mark Messier 1887
3. Gordie Howe 1850
4. Ron Francis 1798
5. Marcel Dionne 1771
6. Steve Yzerman 1755
7. Mario Lemieux 1723
8. Super Joe Sakic 1600

Props. Sakic's always been a class act, albeit a bit underspoken, and has worn the C in Colorado well.

Man, look at Gretzky's lead on Messier. Sick.

10-30-2007, 10:13 PM
This would be soooooooooooooooooooooooo cool to do!


Six years ago, I flew 11,000 miles from Japan to California just to watch a
NHL hockey game, I had a great time, and an idea….Wouldn’t it be a thrill to
visit every NHL arena in a single season?

But why stop there? My concept is simple….I’m going to watch a hockey
game in all 30 National Hockey League arenas….in 30 consecutive nights!

Something that’s never been done before….30 hockey games in 30 nights in
30 different cities this fall….it’s the ultimate hockey road trip!

I'll be sharing the ups and downs of my 30 Games In 30 Nights adventure on
this site. Take a look around the site and you’ll find my complete schedule (http://www.30gamesin30nights.com/Schedule.html),
the complexities of my travel plans and much more. Once the ultimate road
trip begins, I’ll be updating this site daily with my stories from the games, and
how I traveled to each city blog-style. Read today's blog here (http://30games.blogspot.com/).

I'm on a tight budget. Although I’ll need to fly to most cities, I have searched
for bargain airfares and am using a bunch of my frequent flyer miles to keep
costs down. In some cities, I’ll stay with friends or family, and in others I’ll be
finding cheap hotels on Hotwire or using up my Hilton points. As far as game
tickets go, I’ll be looking out for good deals, so if you have any extra tickets, let
me know!

As a hard-core hockey fan who loves to fly, I’m well prepared for the ultimate
hockey road trip. I’ve flown almost a million miles in my lifetime, seen over
500 NHL games, and most importantly, have no problem falling asleep on

For months, I've been planning the details of this 30 Games In 30 Nights trip.
Poring through the NHL schedule for hours to find just the right combination
of games, staying away from the frigid winter months when weather could
disrupt travel, finding affordable flights that get me into each city by 2pm,
coming up with backup travel plans if flights are cancelled, and so on.

So now I'm ready to roll, mentally and physically, for the Ultimate Hockey Road
Trip. I can't wait for October 26th as 30 Games In 30 Nights begins in Detroit!

10-30-2007, 10:20 PM

One hour ago the Swedish roster for the tournament in Karjala Cup was released. Coach Bengt-Ake Gustafsson announced it on live television and the final player he announced was: Peter Forsberg. Yes, he will be playing in the tournament with the Swedish national team Tre Kronor. No comments from Forsberg yet, though.

The schedule this year:
Nov. 8: Sweden–Russia
Nov. 8: Czech Republic–Finland
Nov. 10: Sweden–Czech Republic
Nov. 10: Finland–Russia
Nov. 11: Russia–Czech Republic
Nov. 11: Finland–Sweden

It's expected this event will be a tuneup for Forsberg en route to a return to the NHL around midseason.

10-30-2007, 11:10 PM

TORONTO - NHL players have ratified a new constitution that significantly alters the way their union governs itself, completing a lengthy review process borne out of the dispute over the hiring of former executive director Ted Saskin.

The new constitution, approved through a secret ballot and announced Tuesday, eliminates the National Hockey League Players' Association's executive committee, which was comprised of a president and six vice-presidents.

In its place, the 30 club-player representatives will serve as equal voting members of an executive board.

Additionally, the positions of executive director and general counsel, which have traditionally been held by the same person, will now be divided between two individuals. Both positions will serve as non-voting members of the executive board.

"The players have put together an exceptional constitution, with the process that brought about the changes being just as significant as what their efforts produced," Paul Kelly, the NHLPA's new executive director, said in a statement. "From the very beginning of the review, players consulted with each other, conducted surveys and group discussion, and then affirmed the new constitution by secret ballot.

"It's highly appropriate that the players' constitution was constructed by the players themselves."

The new governing document comes about a week after Kelly's hiring, ending a process of renewal for the union.

A review of the old constitution began in March 2006 as union infighting raged over the process that led to the hiring of Saskin, who was fired last May 11 amid allegations he ordered the spying of NHLPA player e-mails.

A draft of the new document was presented to the players at their annual meetings Aug. 29-31 in Toronto. The input offered from players there plus comments from others who participated in an online survey led the to the final document.

"The events in recent years made it clear that it was time to revise a stale constitution that no longer represented the needs of our membership," said Eric Lindros, a member of the constitution committee. "This new document ensures that the players have control over their union and have the full ability to govern themselves.

"The errors of the past will not be repeated."

Lindros, Craig Adams (Carolina Hurricanes), Andrew Peters (Buffalo Sabres) and Matt Stajan (Toronto Maple Leafs) were appointed to the review process in June 2007 and have since headed the process with lawyer Paul Cavalluzzo and NHLPA staff.

Other changes under the new constitution include:

-The executive board will appoint an ombudsman, who will also recommend a former player to serve in the capacity of divisional player representative to liaise with players in their respective divisions.

-An advisory board will be created to offer guidance on various matters. Members will have expertise in law, corporate affairs, finance, marketing, labour relations and player representation.

"The new constitution builds a relationship that allows the players to be more involved within our union and allows our union to be closer to the players," said Adams. "With divisional player representatives and an ombudsman, our needs will be looked after more efficiently and with greater player input."

10-30-2007, 11:41 PM
Anybody watching the oil vs wings?

10-30-2007, 11:54 PM
Heres an artical from another point of view..


It is, of course, insane to suggest the Randy Jones hit from behind on Patrice Bergeron Saturday afternoon is anything even remotely close to the dangerous cheap shots delivered by Steve Downie and Jesse Boulerice. It's probably even more ridiculous to suggest that because these players all happen to play for the Philadelphia Flyers, the organization is running amok and must be dealt with harshly before it does any more damage.

But that also doesn't mean Jones shouldn't be suspended for a lot more than two games for his hit on Bergeron. In fact, it could be argued his suspension should be almost as long as the 20 games Downie got for his vicious hit on Ottawa’s Dean McAmmond or the 25 Boulerice received for his crosscheck to the face of Philadelphia’s Ryan Kesler.

I've said it many times before; if players are responsible for what they do with their sticks, they must also be responsible and accountable for what they do with their bodies, regardless of whether or not there was ever any intention to injure a player.

And as long as the hockey culture continues to view these kinds of things as "hockey hits," more and more players are going to be injured by players who are recklessly, but not maliciously, using their bodies.

There is absolutely no doubt Jones did not intend to hurt Bergeron. There's nothing in his past to suggest he's a dirty player or one who has no regard for his opponent. He was obviously sufficiently contrite after it happened and you have to believe he truly regretted the result of his hit.

But he still hit an opponent from behind, he still got his elbow up and drove his opponent's head into the glass and he still delivered a hit that, in this writer's opinion, could have been avoided. It wasn't as though Jones committed himself completely to hitting Bergeron and couldn't let up. He could have let up and he should have let up.

And please, spare everyone this garbage that Bergeron is somehow culpable because he turned away from the hit and went low before having his head driven into the dasher board. The people who espouse that view are the same ones who would chastise McAmmond for having his head down – Duh, it's called body position. And if there was absolutely nothing wrong with the hit, then why exactly did Jones receive a five-minute major for boarding on the play?

The problem here isn't with Randy Jones or the Philadelphia Flyers, it's with the minds in hockey that see these kinds of hits as clean hockey hits and view a broken nose and concussion as the kind of inevitable collateral damage that results when a very fast game is played by very large men at a very intense level. As long as the hockey world continues to view these kinds of hits as acceptable, they're going to keep happening and players are going to continue getting hurt.

We got a glimpse of the NHL reality when Wayne Fish of the Bucks County Courier Times asked Flyers GM Paul Holmgren whether teams might be a bit intimidated by Philadelphia in the aftermath of these three incidents. Holmgren responded by saying: "I certainly don't think it's a bad thing."

In reality, Jones' hit on Bergeron was a headshot – not a headshot in the Downie sense – but a headshot nonetheless. Let's go through the NHL's five new criteria on headshots to see where this one stands:

Did Jones deliberately target Bergeron's head? No.

Did he launch himself by leaving his feet to hit Bergeron? No.

Is Jones a repeat offender? No.

Did he deliver the hit to the head of an unsuspecting opponent? You bet he did.

Was it a late hit? This is the pivotal point as far as the NHL is concerned. If you go by the textbook definition of a late hit, this one doesn't fall into that category. But if you subscribe to the theory that Jones could have recognized Bergeron was in a vulnerable position against the boards and that Jones could have held up on making the hit, then there is absolutely no doubt it was a late hit.

So, depending on how the NHL looks at this one, Jones is guilty in one or two of the five criteria the NHL has established.

And that's why the league needed to suspend Jones for a significant period and send a message to others. In this case, intention or lack of it has very little to do with the incident. When players highstick another player accidentally, they're still penalized. When players clear the puck over the glass inadvertently, they receive a minor penalty.

And in this case, the NHL had to look at recklessness with the same seriousness as intention. Two games isn't going to provide a real deterrent for any player and just when it looked like the NHL was making gains with the welfare of its players, it took a big step back with this one.

10-31-2007, 08:32 PM
NHL Network is now on DirecTV in the US on channel 215.

11-01-2007, 04:56 PM
NHL Network is now on DirecTV in the US on channel 215.

I love the replays of games they show more than just the goals.

11-01-2007, 05:16 PM
http://cdn.nhl.com/images/upload/2007/04/tocchet_rick_194x270.jpgNEW YORK -- NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman brought the Rick Tocchet situation to a close Thursday, reinstating the Phoenix Coyotes associate coach on Feb. 7, 2008.
(PODCAST - Bettman announces Tocchet findings: Part 1 | Part 2 )

Bettman made the announcement three days after receiving an investigative report from Robert J. Cleary that was started in February 2006, days after it was revealed that Tocchet was the subject of an investigation by the New Jersey Attorney General’s office into an illegal bookmaking operation dubbed “Operation Slapshot.”

The criminal probe resulted in Tocchet pleading guilty earlier this year to third-degree offenses, conspiracy and promoting gambling. Although he faced up to five years in prison, Tocchet was sentenced to two years probation in August, which he has been allowed to serve in Arizona.

The Feb. 7 date will make Tocchet’s suspension a two-year ban; Tocchet first was granted a leave of absence from his duties with the Coyotes on Feb. 7, 2006.

“I am satisfied that the League’s interest in both discouraging and deterring inappropriate and, in this case, criminal behavior, and in sufficiently punishing the same, are adequately served with Mr. Tocchet having been deprived of the privilege of participating for two entire calendar years,” Bettman said.

Bettman placed three conditions on Tocchet’s reinstatement: Tocchet cannot gamble – legally or illegally – in any way; he “may not engage in any conduct which may reflect adversely on NHL hockey, the League or any club, or on any League or club personnel;” and he will enter the NHL’s Substance Abuse and Behavioral Health Program so doctors can determine if Tocchet has a gambling addiction.

Bettman said Tocchet will be treated on an out-patient basis and will be able to work while being part of the program.

Cleary’s 21-month investigation revealed that Tocchet’s role in the gambling ring, which was run by former New Jersey State Trooper James Harney, was in helping friends – including current and former NHL players – place bets with Harney. The report also revealed Tocchet “maintained a financial interest in the betting activity of those individuals whom he referred to Harney.”

“There is no evidence that anyone, including Mr. Tocchet, did anything that in any way or at any time compromised the integrity of NHL hockey or any NHL hockey game,” said Bettman.

Cleary wrote in his report that there was no evidence of any betting on hockey by NHL personnel; there was no evidence of any efforts to compromise the integrity of any games; and there was no evidence of any connection between the gambling ring and organized crime, which had been suggested in the initial media reports.

“Based on the preliminary reports we were getting, after the initial announcement was made about this, the headlines and the hysteria, it became clear to me that this probably didn’t have anything to do with NHL hockey,” said Bettman. “It wasn’t something that preoccupied me. I was anxious that Mr. Cleary be able to finish his investigation as quickly as he could, and under the circumstances that he was presented with, he did. This whole matter has been more of a distraction and gotten more attention that it was ever worth.”

Cleary’s probe, during which he interviewed approximately 90 current and former players, coaches and other League and club employees, took as long as it did because he was unable to speak with Tocchet until August, after Tocchet had entered his plea and been sentenced.

That interview, and Cleary’s report, convinced Bettman that initial reports of a well-developed, complex criminal enterprise were false, and its relationship to the NHL was “tangential.”

“While it is clear that criminal activity did in fact take place, and that Mr. Tocchet was involved in this activity, and while I never have and never will attempt to minimize the severity of these activities, the fact is that the reality of this case never lived up to the massive amount of hype and speculation circulating in the initial days after the investigation was made public,” said Bettman.

11-01-2007, 05:22 PM

Time is running out on the effort to keep the Predators in Nashville, as negotiations on Tuesday showed little progress toward today's deadline and ticket sales were running slow.

A mostly local investors group has until the end of today to buy the hockey team from owner Craig Leipold. That won't be possible, given all the approvals still needed, but Leipold could give the group more time before he starts talking to other potential buyers.

Meanwhile, the community is coming up short on its one sure way to require the Predators to stay in town — buying tickets.

After six home games, the Predators' paid attendance average stands at 12,305, well below the 14,000 that would enforce the team's 30-year lease of Sommet Center.

However, attendance traditionally picks up in the second half of the season, after football ends.

"That's the ultimate ace in the hole that we have," Mayor Karl Dean said last week.

Metro Councilman Charlie Tygard said he was anxious about the pace of negotiations between the investors and Dean's administration to change the lease, which the investors say they must do to buy the team.

"I guess I'm concerned that the deadline is fast approaching, and we're not hearing anything pro or con," Tygard said Tuesday. "I'm certainly hopeful that we can reach some kind of agreement, or I hope Craig Leipold will grant an extension."

Margie Newman, a spokeswoman for the buyers, said the group was "still working toward the Oct. 31 deadline unless they hear otherwise." She said she wasn't aware of the group's asking Leipold for an extension; Gerry Helper, a Predators spokes man, said he wasn't aware of Leipold's being approached for one.

"Everybody's focused on getting the deal done," he said.

Coach doubts distraction

Tygard said he would like to see Dean wrap up the negotiations and present a deal to the Metro Sports Authority and Metro Council, both of which have asked for a week to consider major lease changes.

"I'm to the stage now, I would like the mayor to put (forward) the best deal possible that he can offer legally to protect the taxpayers, and it's time to let the public see what it is, discuss it and vote it up or down," he said.

Dean's spokeswoman, Janel Lacy, said, "We're not going to do a deal without a full public discussion, and we hope we can start that discussion soon."

More than five months after Leipold first announced that he had reached a preliminary deal to sell the Predators, Tygard said he worries that the process could be distracting the team, which was 4-6 going into Tuesday night's game at Calgary.

"Perhaps this uncertainty has filtered down into the performance of the team. I'm not saying that's the whole reason they're 4-6, but in professional sports, you've got a fragile chemistry, and anything that disrupts it on any level sometimes is more than what they can overcome."

Predators Coach Barry Trotz said he didn't think that was the case.

"It's more of a distraction probably when we are not playing than when we are playing, because once you start playing it better not be a distraction," Trotz said before Tuesday's game. "It doesn't show very good focus, it doesn't show very good preparation.

"We just have to block it out. It is what it is. We are going to be in Nashville for hopefully a long time, or a few years, or we don't know. All we know is we are here this year so let's live in the moment a little bit. That's all you can really do."

Predators fan Liz Parrott, a local attorney and a season ticket-holder for the team's nine years, says she still believes things will work out for the best.

"I'd say there's still cautious optimism,'' said Parrott, a former president of the team's booster club. "We want the deal to go through and we want to keep them here. There's that undying hope that they will stay here and get something worked out.''

Parrott said she believes that even though it's unlikely a deal will be reached by the end of the exclusive negotiating period today, the two sides are moving in the right direction.

"I think it's a long-term process that's made huge strides,'' she said. "They've made enough strides that they're not just going to throw in the towel and say, 'We're done.' ''

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11-03-2007, 11:48 AM

It's a curse.

"The Curse of the Defencemen," said GM Kevin Lowe.

It was only two minutes and 56 seconds into the game last night when Jordin Tootoo pasted Mathieu Roy into the boards.

"It was his first shift," said Lowe, who would watch his team lose 4-1 to the Nashville Predators to go four games below .500 with the next four on the road.

Twenty-five seconds of ice time and Roy, who was out with a concussion at the end of last year and with another one at the start of this season, was out with what coach Craig MacTavish said was another possible concussion and for sure a separated left shoulder.

"You hate seeing that. Roy has definitely had a lot of bad luck," said Tom Gilbert, one of the five remaining survivors on the black and blueline.

The game before it was Matt Greene, out with a broken ankle. Sheldon Souray was first. Then Joni Pitkanen.

That's four.

"This is unbelievable," said Lowe.

You'd wonder maybe if Jason Smith put the curse on the defencemen for trading him.

But this goes back to the final 20 games of last year when Steve Staios, Daniel Tjarnqvist, Gilbert and Roy were out at the same time.

They had to call up a junior, Sebastian Bisaillon from Val-d'Or for two games on an emergency basis. There was no one left.

Bryan Young was playing down in Stockton when he was hauled to the front of the bus and told he was going up. He figured that meant to Wilkes-Barre.

They told him he wasn't leaving California. The Oilers were on a West Coast road trip in Anaheim.

Lowe had nine defencemen here.

"We thought we had enough," he said.

"We weren't keeping nine because we were gun-shy," said Lowe, who will wait until Springfield plays tonight to decide whether to bring up Young or Danny Syvret.

The plan, it would seem obvious, was to trade a couple when a team found themselves in injury trouble. That team turned out to be Edmonton.

"I don't remember anything like this. It sure didn't when I was playing.

None of us got hurt that much," he said, forgetting that he set some sort of NHL record for number of concussions, but seldom missing many shifts except that one night when Flames trainer Bearcat Murray got to him first and asked him what town he was in. When he answered "Vancouver" he was done for the night.

Those were the days when somebody got "his bell rung" and would often not know what town he was in.

One of the great quotes in hockey history was when Ted Green was coaching the Oilers and Shaun Van Allen didn't know who he was and Green told the trainer "Tell him he's Wayne Gretzky."

Nobody told Roy he's Bobby Orr.

Defensive coach Charlie Huddy said he's not only never seen anything like this in terms of the number of injuries, but the length of time they'll be out of the line-up.

"It's not like these guys are out for two or three games. It's so disappointing because this year we were really excited about our defence. But they keep going down."

They can't even dress Huddy, who is only a couple years older than Chris Chelios.

"I never filed my retirement papers. I ended my career in Buffalo. If it comes to that, we're in trouble," he said of the team which cost the Sabres $50 million to keep restricted free agent Thomas Vanek.

Head coach Craig MacTavish watched his remaining five defencemen all get the heebie jeebies as soon as Roy went down, handling the puck like a hand grenade all night, particularly Denis Grebeshkov, who played 25:40. Rookie Tom Gilbert played 27:05.

"It's too tough a game when you're not scoring to give goals away," said MacTavish.

Another disturbing thing, to many, was that nobody filled in Tootoo. Nobody went after him when Roy lay on the ice.

Tootoo stayed on for the next shift and nobody took him then either.

"He launched Matty," said MacTavish.

"But it was a pretty clean hit. It wasn't malicious. It wasn't a real dirty hit. I didn't expect any guys we had left to go fight him.

"We didn't have a lot of toughness in the line-up. The one guy we had was laying on the ice motionless."

11-03-2007, 12:06 PM
Brad Ziemer, Vancouver Sun
Published: Friday, November 02, 2007

It is important at times like this to remember that We Are All Canucks.

What's that? You've stopped drinking the Canuck Kool-Aid? Apparently, you are not alone. A large number of the 18,630 faithful who filled General Motors Place on Thursday night let the Canucks know how they felt after Vancouver dropped a 3-0 decision to the Nashville Predators.

Unfortunately, the news gets worse. In addition to the game, the Canucks lost two key defencemen as both Kevin Bieksa and Sami Salo were sent to hospital with injuries that coach Alain Vigneault said figure to keep them both out of the lineup for an extended period.
Blueliner Sami Salo is helped from the ice Thursday night after taking a puck to the face at GM Place.

Bieksa suffered a deep cut to his right calf late in the second period while battling on the end boards with Nashville centre Vernon Fiddler. Late in the third period, Salo took a puck in the face off the stick of teammate Alex Edler. Vigneault said it appeared Salo suffered a broken orbital bone.

"It's easy to say both those guys are going to be out for a while now," said Vigneault, who added that the team will have to call up at least one defenceman from Manitoba.

That could be rookie Luc Bourdon, who is off to a good start in Manitoba.

The injuries capped what was an ugly outing by the Canucks, who at 5-8 are now three games under .500 for the first time since the 2001-02 season.

Nashville scored on its first two shots of the game on netminder Roberto Luongo and hung on for its first road win of the season. That's the same number of victories the Canucks have in seven outings this season at GM Place.

The Predators had scored a grand total of three goals in their previous five road games this season. They had two in the first eight minutes and change Thursday night.

Luongo didn't look particularly good on the first two shots he faced that turned into goals.

David Legwand's wrist shot from the right circle went through Luongo's legs at 6:16 of the first on a power play.

"It was just a bad goal," Luongo said. "He shot it through the D-man's legs and I was slow to react. It's probably one of my first bad goals of the season. Unfortunately, it wasn't a good time for it and it kind of hurt us a bit."

Two minutes later, Martin Erat also went five-hole on Luongo after he was sprung free on a breakaway when Salo missed the net with a shot and the puck bounced off the glass to J.P. Dumont, who found Erat behind the Vancouver defence.

The Predators managed just one other shot -- from centre ice -- the rest of the first period. The Canucks, who enjoyed two power-play opportunities, had 13 shots on Nashville goalie Dan Ellis.

Ellis stopped all 29 shots he faced to run his record to a perfect 3-0 this season.

"We're facing adversity right now and this adds to it," said Canuck centre Brendan Morrison. "This next stretch is going to tell a lot about what we're made of. We're very frustrated as a group. Winning is contagious, losing is contagious and you don't want to get in that mindset.

"Right now, we're not doing the things you need to do to win games. The lapses that we're having out there are ending up in the back of our net every single time."

The Predators only managed two shots on goal in what was a scoreless second period. The shots after two periods were 22-5 in favour of the Canucks, who failed to register a shot on two power-play opportunities in the second.

The Predators outshot Vancouver 10-7 in the third and iced the game with nine seconds remaining when Jason Arnott scored his fourth of the season to make it 3-0.

Vigneault juggled his lines in the third period to try and get something going and even split up the Sedin twins, who began the game skating with rookie Jannik Hansen.

"We were trying to get something going there and you have to try different things," Vigneault said. "That's what I was trying to do.

"We're facing major adversity right now and I think the only way to face that adversity is by sticking together," Vigneault continued. "We're going to call up players we're hoping are going to be able to help us and we're going to stick together and fight our way through this. That's all we can do."

Ellis registered the first shutout against the Canucks since Feb. 7 of last season when Patrick Lalime and the Chicago Blackhawks blanked Vancouver 3-0.

ICE CHIPS: Luongo has now lost eight of his 12 starts this season . . .The Canucks practise in Vancouver this morning before heading to Denver, where they meet the Colorado Avalanche on Saturday night.

11-03-2007, 12:12 PM
With demitra and gaborik back in the fold the wild get some more good news, Wild G Nik Backstrom appears ready to start his first game since a 5-3 loss Oct. 24 at Calgary. He has missed the past three games because of a sore groin. He is 2-2-1 with a 2.29 goals-against average all-time against Calgary. We will see if they can get back on the winning track after a big slump due to injuries.

11-03-2007, 12:44 PM
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11-03-2007, 03:33 PM
Jaci Donahe from Wicked Bruins Fan:

I was at work yesterday afternoon and NESN was on one of the many televisions at the establishment. I watched the bottom line and saw GM Peter Chiarelli’s update about Patrice Bergeron. I actually received an update from a source within the Bruins organization at Thursday’s game and Chiarelli only confirmed that, which is marked in bold in the quoted portion.

According to Chiarelli, Bergeron has trouble sleeping, waking up once or twice each night. During the day, Bergeron wears a neck collar. He is sedentary and can watch TV, but becomes tired and distracted easily. This week, Bergeron had to be transported in a wheelchair from his home to the Garden for treatment. Bergeron, 22, lives nearby and usually walks to games and practices.

At the time hearing about the neck collar and wheelchair, I didn’t want to disclose any information that wouldn’t be public knowledge out of respect to Bergeron, the Bruins and my source.

“He was a fraction of an inch away from receiving an injury that was life-threatening,” said Chiarelli. “I was told at one point that it was pretty certain he had broken his neck. He’s very well-conditioned. He’s strong up top with the [trapezius muscle], shoulders, and neck. But for that, he probably would have broken his neck.”

Al Wilson
11-03-2007, 11:35 PM
Sens win again. Great start so far, 11-1.

11-04-2007, 12:14 PM
UNIONDALE, N.Y. - Hall of Fame coach Al Arbour walked out with another win, while everyone around the New York Islanders left with concern about Rick DiPietro.

A night of celebration ended with a banner raised along with fears as the star goalie was sent to the doctor after being struck in the right eye by the stick of Pittsburgh Penguins captain Sidney Crosby.

Arbour came back to the Islanders one more time to coach the team he guided to four straight Stanley Cup championships in the 1980s for a 1,500th time in the regular season.

Miroslav Satan scored the tying and winning goals in the third period of New York's 3-2 victory over the Penguins.

"We had a bad five minutes in the second period, but otherwise, we played really, really hard," the 75-year-old coach said. "I talked a little bit, not a lot. It was nothing spectacular. I bit my tongue a little bit."

It would've been perfect if not for the injury to DiPietro, in the second season of a landmark 15-year contract with the Islanders. Team spokesman Chris Botta said initial reports showed the injury wasn't serious, and that the 26-year-old DiPietro was sent for an evaluation to confirm that diagnosis.

"I just asked him how he was and he said he was all right," captain Bill Guerin said.

Arbour was invited behind the bench to coach the team again and earned Islanders win No. 740 behind the heroics of Satan, who netted the winner with only 2:41 left when he put in a rebound of Marc-Andre Bergeron's shot.

"When we came back to the bench you saw a legend standing there," Satan said. "We knew we only had one chance to win the game for him."

Arbour retired after the Islanders were swept in the first round of the 1994 playoffs by the New York Rangers, but now he can leave on a winning note.

On his return he didn't move more than a few steps away from his spot to the left of regular coach Ted Nolan, whose idea it was to have Arbour return.

"Just by him being here won the game," Nolan said. "Al said he didn't know all the names of the players, but they sure knew him."

No one has coached or won more games with one team than Arbour. He left the second time when Crosby was less than seven years old. A banner commemorating his 739 previous Islanders wins was lowered after the game, replaced by one with his name and 1500 as streamers and confetti were shot from the rafters.

"I was very surprised at the end," he said.

Arbour held a lineup card in his left hand throughout and raised both arms in jubilation when Satan erased the remnants of a two-goal deficit 5:30 into the third period. Nolan did a spin and leap of his own.

That was nothing compared to how the whole bench jumped when Satan put the Islanders in front.

"It feels very good but I really didn't do that much," Arbour said. "It was all the players and coach Ted Nolan."

Trent Hunter got New York within 2-1 midway through the second after Ryan Malone and rookie Tyler Kennedy built the advantage for the Penguins, 1-2 on a four-game road trip.

Crosby assisted on Malone's goal to stretch his point streak to a career-best 12 games and then drew the ire of the sold-out Nassau Coliseum crowd when he struck DiPietro in the mask with his stick in the second period.

Crosby got four minutes for high-sticking. DiPietro, who had already left for the dressing room, was called back down the tunnel to show the referee he had been cut near the eye before retreating again.

Wade Dubielewicz was perfect in relief.

The Islanders couldn't convert then or on any of their six power-play chances.

Malone made sure the Penguins netted a man-advantage goal for the 13th straight game, every one they've played. Crosby went without a point in Pittsburgh's season-opening loss at Carolina, but hasn't been shut down since.

Malone has 12 career goals in 19 games against the Islanders - his most against any team. Both of Malone's NHL hat tricks came last season in games with the Islanders, as did his first goal in the league - scored in 2003.

After a straightforward first period, things turned strange.

Less than two minutes into the second, Kennedy - in his fourth NHL game since being called up last week - ripped a shot that appeared to sail into the top left corner behind DiPietro, but it was waved off by referee Eric Furlatt.

Gary Roberts threw his hands up in celebration with the rest of his Pittsburgh teammates, but play continued for another 1:51 until the next stoppage. Video replay confirmed Kennedy's first career goal and gave the Penguins a 2-0 lead.

11-05-2007, 09:52 PM
So, is it just me, or is this forum missing the hell out of Mtbronco. Its just not the same without her here. Damn it MT, get back here and talk hockey!

I'll be heading to the Phoenix vs Ducks game on Thursday. I'm planning on booing the **** out of the arena when I see the team killer on the ice. I'm disgusted to even see that idiot here.

11-06-2007, 06:08 PM
So, is it just me, or is this forum missing the hell out of Mtbronco. Its just not the same without her here. Damn it MT, get back here and talk hockey!

I'll be heading to the Phoenix vs Ducks game on Thursday. I'm planning on booing the **** out of the arena when I see the team killer on the ice. I'm disgusted to even see that idiot here.

I have been PMing her for a long time iam hoping nothing bad happened.

11-06-2007, 06:15 PM
I have been PMing her for a long time iam hoping nothing bad happened.

Along with Mtbronco, I miss Jori as well.

11-06-2007, 06:16 PM
1. Ottawa
Spezza signed, sealed and delivered

2. Detroit
Ozzie has been really good

3. Carolina
Look who’s bouncing back to life

4. Columbus
Leclaire unbelievable with five shutouts

5. Philadelphia
Newcomers Briere and Lupul have been key

6. Minnesota
Win over Flames snaps four-game losing skid

7. Colorado
Four goals in four games for Svatos

8. Montreal
Huet appears to have hold on No. 1 goalie’s job

9. Calgary
Iginla off to dynamic start

10. Boston
At least competitive in pair of losses to Ottawa

11. Islanders
Three wins in four outings, not bad

12. San Jose
Big gunners mostly firing blanks

13. Los Angeles
Only one goal in four games for Cammalleri

14. Toronto
Continue to be better on road than at home

15. St. Louis
Only 21 shots in 3-0 loss to Blue Jackets

16. Anaheim
Schneider returns with three points in two games

17. Nashville
Things looking up with three straight wins

18. Chicago
Nine points in eight games for Jason Williams

19. Rangers
Can’t score, but OK on defense

20. Penguins
Crosby starting to heat up

21. Dallas
Stars drop three straight, including 5-0 to Coyotes

22. New Jersey
Playing better, even in 2-1 SO loss to Rangers

23. Buffalo
Brian Campbell leads Sabres in points…good for Brian, bad for team

24. Florida
One goal in eight games for Horton

25. Vancouver
Top four scorers combined minus-13

26. Tampa Bay
Winless (0-6-0) on the road explains drop in ranking

27. Phoenix
Win two of three including 5-0 over Dallas

28. Atlanta
Three wins in four games

29. Edmonton
Stoll starting to come to life should help

30. Washington
Only win in last five against Toronto


11-06-2007, 06:46 PM
Along with Mtbronco, I miss Jori as well.

I spoke to jori via email shes ok shes just doing other stuff right now.

11-07-2007, 04:47 PM
Ohhh god i forget about this clip then i see it out of nowhere again and it cracks me up all over again..........

Funny shyt

11-07-2007, 08:10 PM
THN.com is reporting that a prospective ownership group, led by local businessman David Freeman has an agreement in place to purchase the franchise from Predators' current owner Craig Leipold for about $193 million. Sources tell THN.com that Freeman has reached a deal with the city to rework the team's arena lease that will guarantee the Predators remain in Nashville until at least through the 2010-11 season.

Although the tentative deal has not been approved by either the Metro Sports Authority or Metro Council in Nashville, it is expected it will be ratified by both bodies within the next 30 to 45 days.

"From the draft of the deal that I saw, I didn't see anything in there that would offend a council member or a citizen of Nashville," city councilor Charlie Tygard told the Hockey News.

If the deal gets done, it must then be passed by the NHL's board of Governors via a vote by fax. The NHL is not expected to formally approve the deal until the final details of the transaction are complete and that may take some time.

The reworked lease eliminates the attendance component that forces the Predators to remain in Nashvill if the team averaged 14,000 per game in paid attendance. The new lease would allow the team to leave the city after it expires in three to five years if the team continues to struggle financially.

Freeman's group insisted that the arena's lease be changed in an effort to make Predators financially viable. The group was asking for $4.2 million a year in sales tax and set fee revenue and $7 million in arena upgrades, to use towards building a smaller concert venue that would seat between 3,000 and 4,000 people.

The Preds are currently averaging just over 14,000 per game, however just over 12,000 of that is paid attendance.

Files from The Hockey News were used in this report

11-08-2007, 07:54 PM
via the Minnesota Wild,

“Wes Walz has requested and been granted an indefinite leave of absence from the team. We have no further details at this time.”

I wonder what the deal is?

11-08-2007, 08:11 PM
"It could be months not weeks" is how Bieksa's prognosis is now being described.

Bieksa was originally expected to miss eight weeks after sustaining a deep cut on his right calf from the skate of Predators' forward Vernon Fiddler during the Canucks 3-0 loss to Nashville November 1st. That cut that was deeper than the Canucks initially thought.

Bieksa underwent surgery to repair the damage and was fitted with a cast following the procedure.
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The belief is once the cast comes off, the Canucks blueliner will have to endure a lengthy rehabilitation process.

After a breakout campaign last season, Bieksa signed a three-year $11.25 million contract in the off season to anchor the Canucks blueline. He struggled in the early going with one goal and three assists in 12 games this season.

Meanwhile, Bieksa's teammate, Sami Salo is considered to be at least four weeks from returning.

Salo, who suffered a severely broken nose and cracked sinus cavity in the same game is having difficulty breathing due to swelling.

Lukas Krajicek, a third member of the Canucks defensive corps is likely at least two weeks away from returning after cracking a bone in his ankle last month.

11-08-2007, 09:01 PM
Later mush head thanks for the stanley cups nice gesture on the donation though, HOF no freaking way...

LONDON, Ont. - Eric Lindros combined the announcement of his retirement as an NHL player on Thursday with one of the largest one-time donations ever received by the London Health Sciences Foundation.

The Big E is giving $5 million to the facility.

The money will support hospital programs including the Fowler Kennedy Sports Medicine Clinic where Lindros was treated during his playing career.

''I believe it's because of this care that my career lasted as long as it did,'' said Lindros.

The 34-year-old centre was at the London Hunt and Country Club for a dinner honouring clinic co-founder Dr. Peter Fowler. Lindros was born at London Health Science Centre's Victoria Hospital.

''Eric's generosity is a tremendous boost to the dedicated team of researchers and health care workers at London Health Sciences Centre,'' said Fowler.

Lindros lauded Fowler's work.

''I believe him to be simply the best,'' said Lindros. ''Not only is he a world-class surgeon, but also tops as a teacher and inspiration to other doctors.''

Lindros quipped that, in moving into a new phase of his life outside the NHL, that he'd signed a five-year contract to play Monday nights in the Toronto area.

''I truly enjoyed my days of playing and look forward to the next chapter of my life,'' he said.

Lindros finished his playing career with 372 goals and 493 assists for 865 points, while being assessed 1,398 penalty minutes, in 760 NHL games with the Philadelphia Flyers, New York Rangers, Toronto Maple Leafs and Dallas Stars. Numerous concussions and other injuries restricted him to an average of only 58 games a season over 13 campaigns, but he was an impact player when in his prime.

''I played with the best, I played against the best - it was a blast. It really truly was,'' he said. ''I enjoyed myself immensely.''

Lindros won the Hart Trophy as the NHL's MVP in 1995.

Some of his best hockey was in Canada's colours. He was on two teams that won world junior championships, he was on Canada's victorious 1991 Canada Cup team, and he won gold (2002) and silver (1992) Olympic medals.

Former Flyers teammate John LeClair called Lindros a ''tremendous talent and a dominating player.''

''He had it all, size, strength and finesse,'' LeClair said in a NHL Players' Association release. ''It is unfortunate injuries cut his time in the NHL short, but he had a great career and left his mark on the game.''

Matthew Barnaby also had high praise for his former Rangers teammate.

''Eric was the player that I hated to play against, but also the guy that I absolutely loved to play with,'' he said. ''In my opinion, Eric was the most dominating player I faced during my time in the NHL, and was part of the best hockey line I ever went up against.''

Lindros is the leading candidate to become the new ombudsman for the NHLPA.

''I think it would be a great job,'' he said. ''I think seeing the likes of Ted Lindsay and then later on Carl Brewer, there's so many who have stepped up for others in the association and in the National Hockey League.

''It would be a privilege to represent the guys in our association.''

11-09-2007, 06:37 PM
Isn't it funny how some teams can spend all the money in the world and not be any closer to the objective.

Team worth:

#1 Toronto Maple Leafs: Team Value: $413 mil
#2 New York Rangers: Team Value: $365 mil
#3 Detroit Red Wings: Team Value: $293 mil
#4 Montreal Canadiens: Team Value: $283 mil
#5 Dallas Stars: Team Value: $254 mil
#6 Philadelphia Flyers: Team Value: $244 mil
#7 Boston Bruins: Team Value: $243 mil
#8 Colorado Avalanche: Team Value: $214 mil
#9 Vancouver Canucks: Team Value: $211 mil
#10 Los Angeles Kings: Team Value: $209 mil
#11 Tampa Bay Lightning: Team Value: $199 mil
#12 Anaheim Ducks: Team Value: $197 mil
#13 New Jersey Devils: Team Value: $195 mil
#14 Ottawa Senators: Team Value: $186 mil
#15 Minnesota Wild: Team Value: $180 mil
#16 Chicago Blackhawks: Team Value: $179 mil
#17 San Jose Sharks: Team Value: $165 mil
#18 Calgary Flames: Team Value: $164 mil
#19 Buffalo Sabres: Team Value: $162 mil
#20 Edmonton Oilers: Team Value: $157 mil
#21 Carolina Hurricanes: Team Value: $156 mil
#22 Pittsburgh Penguins: Team Value: $155 mil
#23 Florida Panthers: Team Value: $151 mil
#24 Columbus Blue Jackets: Team Value: $150 mil
#25 New York Islanders: Team Value: $149 mil
#26 Atlanta Thrashers: Team Value: $148 mil
#27 Phoenix Coyotes: Team Value: $147 mil
#28 Washington Capitals: Team Value: $145 mil
#29 St Louis Blues: Team Value: $144 mil
#30 Nashville Predators: Team Value: $143 mil

11-09-2007, 07:16 PM

Most goal support

1 ONDREJ PAVELEC ATL 4 8 3 3.82 1.43
2 ANDREW RAYCROFT TOR 6 13 11 3.63 3.07
3 CAM WARD CAR 11 25 9 3.54 1.27
4 DAN ELLIS NSH 7 13 3 3.34 0.77
5 VESA TOSKALA TOR 12 24 24 3.20 3.20
6 JOHN GRAHAME CAR 5 11 5 3.20 1.45
7 MIKAEL TELLQVIST PHX 5 12 7 3.10 1.81
8 MANNY LEGACE STL 11 23 18 3.08 2.41
9 PETER BUDAJ COL 10 20 17 2.93 2.49
10 DANY SABOURIN PIT 8 13 11 2.82 2.39

Least goal support

1 ILJA BRYZGALOV ANA 9 4 6 0.85 1.27
2 HENRIK LUNDQVIST NYR 15 13 13 1.18 1.18
3 MANNY FERNANDEZ BOS 4 4 10 1.43 3.58
4 JOHAN HEDBERG ATL 10 9 20 1.45 3.22
5 MIKE SMITH DAL 5 4 11 1.48 4.08
6 BRENT JOHNSON WSH 6 6 12 1.63 3.26
7 CAREY PRICE MTL 4 5 7 1.65 2.31
8 MARTIN BRODEUR N.J 12 16 22 1.82 2.51
9 PATRICK LALIME CHI 5 6 7 1.82 2.13
10 TOMAS VOKOUN FLA 14 19 30 1.86 2.94

11-10-2007, 02:31 AM
via the Minnesota Wild,

“Wes Walz has requested and been granted an indefinite leave of absence from the team. We have no further details at this time.”

I wonder what the deal is?

He must be a swede. They all seem to bail out. I think the ducks ahd a guy named jonathan helmstrom. Buff average size guy but something went wrong and never came back to play during last years stanley cup year.

11-10-2007, 02:50 AM
What is worse: The AFC WEST or the Pacific (West) Division? Ducks beat the Sharks in SO and takes over firs place! They dont play the rest of the weekend so they will drop but how weak is this play? Vancouver would fit nicely into this division. How many teams will make the playoffs, two? Schneider playing finally has made the ducks much better. Pez fav guy is out forever and having Teemu watching in the stands and not playing hasnt helped. Penner gone didnt help either. 24CB, Kings are in last but only 3 points out. Looking forward to the two home/away games with your kings. I say split.

11-10-2007, 12:55 PM
What is worse: The AFC WEST or the Pacific (West) Division? Ducks beat the Sharks in SO and takes over firs place! They dont play the rest of the weekend so they will drop but how weak is this play? Vancouver would fit nicely into this division. How many teams will make the playoffs, two? Schneider playing finally has made the ducks much better. Pez fav guy is out forever and having Teemu watching in the stands and not playing hasnt helped. Penner gone didnt help either. 24CB, Kings are in last but only 3 points out. Looking forward to the two home/away games with your kings. I say split.

Vancouver keeps proving me wrong in my pickem league, i thought all the defensive injuries they have been having would hurt them. (i was wrong)

11-10-2007, 01:18 PM
24CB, Kings are in last but only 3 points out. Looking forward to the two home/away games with your kings. I say split.

I say....sweep. F the gay ducks.



11-10-2007, 01:26 PM
If guys didn't already know ottawa vs montreal is a early game it should be a pretty damn good game.

11-10-2007, 01:33 PM
VANCOUVER - It was a typical Joe Sakic response.

Asked about nearing 1,000 assists in his career, Sakic deflected the attention away from himself and toward the other players he's skated with during his 19-year NHL career.

"We've had some great hockey players that have played in this organization," the Colorado Avalanche captain said Friday, prior to playing the Vancouver Canucks. "A lot of guys that could score goals. You get that, the points are going to come, especially with our style. We have always had a team that likes to play an up-tempo game."

Fair enough. But won't it be special to become only the 11th player in league history to reach 1,000 assists?

"We'll see when we get there I guess," Sakic said after a pause. "Not that many players have gotten to that. It would be a tremendous honour, obviously.

"I haven't thought too much about it."

From some players the false modestly would sound contrived. But from Sakic the words sound as honest as the work ethic he delivers each night.

Heading into the game against Vancouver the 38-year-old Sakic was second in Avalanche scoring with 16 points, including five goals. His 11 assists gave him 990 for his career.

The numbers made right-winger Ian Laperriere shake his head.

"It's not to shabby," said Laperriere. "He's effective out there, as dangerous as I've seen. If anyone wants to play until he's 45 or 50, I think Joe is the next best candidate. He has the work ethic and the skill to do so."

Sakic saw an eight-game point streak end when he was held off the scoresheet in the Avs 4-3 shootout win over Edmonton Wednesday. Earlier this season he collected his 1,600 career point, becoming just the eighth player in NHL history to reach that milestone.

"You'd think a guy with over 1,600 points has nothing to prove," said Laperriere. "It's in his head that if he wants to keep playing he needs to be on top of his game. By doing what he does extra, that's the way he's going to stick around."

Sakic's work ethic off the ice is legendary. He trains in the gym every day, spends time stretching before and after games.

His total dedication to the craft doesn't go unnoticed by young players like Paul Stastny, who finished second in rookie-of-the-year voting last season.

"He's one of the best players of all time," said Stastny, the son of Hall-of-Famer Peter Stastny. "He's still performing at his best.

"What ever he does on the ice or off the ice you watch. You try to learn from him and do the things he does to take of his body the way he does."

Stastny said Sakic is very approachable.

"Every time I have a question he'll answer right away," he said.

Sakic laughed when asked about the advice he's given Stastny.

"There's not much you have to say to Paul," he said. "Paul, you can tell, paid close attention to the way his dad played.

"Paul is a smart hockey player. Even last year when it was his rookie year, he got better as the year went on. There's not much you have to teach him."

When Ryan Smyth became a free agent last summer, Sakic was one of the first people to call him to encourage him to come to Denver. It was by assisting on Smyth's overtime goal in Calgary on Oct. 26 that Sakic recorded his 1,600th point.

Smyth spent years as an Edmonton Oiler battling against Sakic, so he now appreciates being in the same dressing room with him.

"It's how poised he is on and off the ice," said Smyth. "The way he deals with himself and how he handles the different kind of pressure that is put upon him.

"He's so easy going he makes the young guys feel good and the veterans feel good. That's a great leader to have."

Sakic has won two Stanley Cups and an Olympic gold medal. He was named the MVP of the playoffs when the Avs won their first Cup in 1996 and the league MVP in 2001.

He's used to winning, so missing the playoffs last year for the first time in 11 seasons was a bitter pill.

"It was very disappointing" said the Burnaby, B.C., native. "It's over. We are looking at a better year this year."

There's no doubt Sakic would love to add another Stanley Cup to his resume. Just how much longer he's willing to play to reach that goal remains to be seen.

Sakic grinned when told Laperriere thinks he could play to 50.

"No," Sakic said.

What about 49?

"We'll see," he said. "As long as you are feeling good and feel you can contribute, it's a great game and fun to be part of."

11-10-2007, 01:44 PM

Canadian Press

November 9, 2007 at 10:24 AM EST

ANAHEIM — Scott Niedermayer skated for the second time as he continues to contemplate his future.

The 34-year-old star defenceman played a pickup game Thursday, the second time in a week he has skated. But he remains unsure whether he will return to the Anaheim Ducks.

"No decision has been made," Niedermayer told the Orange County Register in Friday's edition. "Really, there is no change in anything right now, other than the fact I'm skating. When the decision does come, if it is to go back and play, I'm a little bit closer."

Niedermayer told the newspaper he has gained some peace of mind since returning to Orange County in early September from his home in Cranbrook, B.C.
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"I'm pretty comfortable with where I'm at now, personally," Niedermayer said. "It's not an easy year, obviously, coming back after three months off and trying to defend a Stanley Cup championship. There are a lot of things that are going to go into this final decision. I'm comfortable with knowing what those things are now.

"There's no big story behind any of it. It's just little things, just private things for me as a member of a family, last year as a member of a hockey team. It's that simple."

He is currently suspended by the Ducks, a technicality that was necessary for the Ducks to save on his $6.75-million (U.S.) salary. He hopes to make up his mind once and for all by mid-December at the latest.

11-10-2007, 08:01 PM
scott story was on the front page of our newspaper. I hope he is secretly getting his legs ready for some December hockey. Add Selanne, who hasnt left the OC area, and there is hope that this season can be a repeat. Now, only if we can win some shootouts this year. San Jose doesnt count as they are worse than the Ducks in that catagory.

11-10-2007, 08:11 PM
Sens win again. Great start so far, 11-1.

Why couldn't you win the cup last year? I was pulling for you guys.


11-11-2007, 08:25 AM
JR finally got goal # 500 becoming only the third us born player to do so

full story here (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=222642&hubname=)

congrats to JR, always has been and always will be one of my favorite players

11-11-2007, 05:49 PM
Looks like Lanny McDonald can still play...


11-11-2007, 09:53 PM
Loved Lanny and the stache. Is that Phil Housley behind him? Housley had one of the hardest shots around!

11-13-2007, 10:49 PM
Dallas Stars canned their GM


Name Brett Hull and Les Jackson as interim co-GM's. WTF.

11-13-2007, 11:33 PM
Looks like Lanny McDonald can still play...


I remember watchin lanny with the rockies in the 70s...

11-14-2007, 12:32 AM
Link (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=222779&hubname=nhl)

“NHL Network today announced it has reached a one-year extension for broadcast rights to American Hockey League (AHL) games. The broadcast package provides NHL Network, in both Canada and the U.S., with 20 ‘Game of the Week’ match-ups, airing Thursdays at 7 p.m. ET throughout the remainder of the regular season.”

- Thursday, Nov. 15 - Rochester @ Syracuse at 7 p.m. ET
- Thursday, Nov. 22 - Toronto @ Lake Erie at 7 p.m. ET
- Thursday, Nov. 29 - Lake Erie @ Rochester at 7 p.m. ET

- Thursday, Dec. 6 - Worcester @ Portland at 7 p.m. ET
- Thursday, Dec. 13 - Toronto @ Rochester at 7 p.m. ET
- Thursday, Dec. 20 - Springfield @ Portland at 7 p.m. ET

- Thursday, Jan. 10 - Lake Erie @ Rockford at 7 p.m. ET
- Thursday, Jan. 17 - Philadelphia @ Wilkes-Barre/Scranton at 7 p.m. ET
- Thursday, Jan. 31 - Lowell @ Portland at 7 p.m. ET

- Thursday, Feb. 7 - San Antonio @ Lake Erie at 7 p.m. ET
Hershey Bears Logo- Thursday, Feb. 14 - Hershey @ Wilkes-Barre/Scranton at 7 p.m. ET
- Thursday, Feb. 21 - Hershey @ Rochester at 7 p.m. ET
- Thursday, Feb. 28 - Albany @ Rochester at 7 p.m. ET

- Thursday, Mar. 6 - Philadelphia @ Wilkes-Barre/Scranton at 7 p.m. ET
- Thursday, Mar. 13 - Grand Rapids @ Lake Erie at 7 p.m. ET
- Thursday, Mar. 20 - Rochester at Syracuse at 7 p.m. ET
- Thursday, Mar. 27 - Manchester @ Portland at 7 p.m. ET

- Thursday, Apr. 3 - Manitoba @ Rochester at 7 p.m. ET
- Thursday, Apr. 10 - Philadelphia @ Wilkes-Barre/Scranton at 7 p.m. ET
- Thursday, Apr. 17 - Hamilton @ Lake Erie at 7 p.m. ET

11-14-2007, 12:40 AM
Link (http://www.nypost.com/seven/11132007/sports/rangers/avery__i_was_libeled_821477.htm)

November 13, 2007 -- TORONTO - Sean Avery is preparing to file a libel charge against a Toronto radio personality who reported yesterday that Saturday's pregame skirmish between the Rangers' winger and the Maple Leafs' Darcy Tucker was incited by Avery referring to Jason Blake's cancer condition, The Post has learned.

Advised by his attorney to decline public comment, Avery has privately denied the charge as broadcast by Howard Berger over The Fan 590.

Berger cited an unnamed Rangers player as the original source of the report.

Tucker, who called Avery "classless" after the match, engaged in a first-period fight with the Rangers' antagonist, but that appeared to be no more than a renewal of the rivalry between the agitators, who also fought April 1 at the Garden.

No other Maple Leaf - including former Islander Blake, who continues to play after recently being diagnosed with Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia, and was among the dozen or so players from both teams surrounding the pregame scrum - challenged the winger in the game.

Maple Leafs coach Paul Maurice, who surely would have been aware of such comments had they actually been made, said after the game that he had no problem with Avery's pregame antics.

The Post has learned that Avery has been summoned for a hearing here today with NHL Executive VP Colin Campbell.

While Avery is likely to be fined and receive a warning from the league's disciplinary office, he is not expected to be suspended.

11-14-2007, 12:45 AM
Link (http://goingfivehole.blogspot.com/2007/11/your-chance-to-scream-at-gary.html)

Gary Bettman will be doing his best Howard Stern impression as the Commish will be hosting his own live radio show on XM called "NHL Hour", to be co-hosted by the moustached one, Bill Clement. Starting Tuesday, November 27th, the show will run 4-5pm on the NHL Home Ice channel 204 and through the leagues website, NHL.com (http://www.nhl.com/). Beginning December 6, the show will run every Thursday at the same time slot (which makes me think why they just didn't start on November 29th or on December 6th to begin with.

"The candid, interactive talk radio show will be hosted by a rotation of League executives, including Commissioner Bettman, Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly, and Senior Executive VP of Hockey Operations Colin Campbell. The show will be co-hosted by XM sports host and former NHL player Bill Clement.

NHL Hour will provide fans with the latest news and events from the highest levels of the NHL. The show encourages fans to submit questions via phone and email. To submit questions to NHL Hour call 1-877-NHL-ON-XM (1-877-645-6696) or email homeice@xmradio.ca."

So there you have it fans, your chance to bitch about any NHL topic to the heads of the league. I actually love this idea for the fans to finally feel as if they have a voice to the higher-ups in the league. It's the first time the fans have direct access to a leagues upper management. My only worry is that it doesn't become an hour of NHL-fluff and that the league execs are asked tough questions. I can picture Colin Campbell telling a caller that he's a "hoser".

11-14-2007, 03:05 PM
Eighteen cable providers sign on to distribute NHL Network

NEW YORK – NHL Network, the first national network dedicated entirely to hockey, has secured distribution through 18 more U.S. cable providers in addition to the seven largest distributors previously announced.

Bermuda Cablevision; Blue Ridge Communications; Bresnan; Bright House Networks; CATV Service; Communication Construction Services; En-Touch Systems, Inc.; Grande Communications; Marco Island Cable; Massillon Cable TV, Inc.; MINET; Midcontinent; OpenBand Multimedia; RCN; Service Electric Cable TV; Service Electric Cablevision; Shrewsbury Electric and Cable Operations; and Zito Media are now distributing NHL Network.

NHL Networknow will be accessible to 80 million homes based on all of the carriage arrangements, including those with Cablevision, Charter Communications, Comcast, Cox Communications, DIRECTV, DISH Network® and Time Warner Cable.

NHL Network, which launched in Canada in 2001, gives viewers unprecedented 24-hour access to the most comprehensive hockey coverage, on and off the ice. NHL Network will broadcast 50 live regular-season games in the U.S. this season, all in HD, in addition to its daily live signature show – NHL on the Fly - - classic games, documentaries, instructional shows, highlights and more.

The U.S. and Canadian versions of NHL Network have similar programming schedules. Initially, the major difference in the two channels is in live NHL game selections, with each channel focusing on games of greater interest to its fans. All live NHL games will be televised in high-definition on the full-time HD feed (all games subject to local blackout).

11-14-2007, 05:14 PM
ok lets see if i got this right, a flyer does something that gets reviewed and is nailed to the cross, yet pronger starts a fight as the game ends, which is supposed to be an automatic game suspension, and gets nothing.

nhl gets to be a bigger joke everyday.


Anaheim defenceman Chris Pronger is not being suspended and Ducks' head coach Randy Carlyle is not being fined for Pronger instigating a fight with Los Angeles' Michal Handzus last night as the buzzer sounded at the end of overtime in the Ducks' 4-3 shootout win over the Kings.

NHL rules call for an automatic one-game suspension for the player and a $10,000 fine for the coach when an instigator is assessed with less than five minutes remaining in regulation time.

But the rule also allows for the NHL to "rescind" the penalties if the league doesn't believe the incident was pre-meditated by the player or orchestrated by the coach. The score of the game is often one of the biggest factors and, in this case, overtime had just ended and they were heading to a shootout.

And, in this instance, the league has rescinded the penalties so there will be no suspension to Pronger or fine to Carlyle.

Pronger became incensed when just as the game was ending, Handzus flipped what looked like a harmless wrist shot from the blueline towards Duck goalie Jean Sebastien Giguere, who used his blocker to deflect it to the corner. Pronger went after Handzus, a melee ensued and Pronger dropped the gloves and started pounding on Handzus.

11-14-2007, 05:24 PM
Pretty cool (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Y8N1UExs8)

11-14-2007, 05:33 PM
ok lets see if i got this right, a flyer does something that gets reviewed and is nailed to the cross, yet pronger starts a fight as the game ends, which is supposed to be an automatic game suspension, and gets nothing.

nhl gets to be a bigger joke everyday.


Anaheim defenceman Chris Pronger is not being suspended and Ducks' head coach Randy Carlyle is not being fined for Pronger instigating a fight with Los Angeles' Michal Handzus last night as the buzzer sounded at the end of overtime in the Ducks' 4-3 shootout win over the Kings.

NHL rules call for an automatic one-game suspension for the player and a $10,000 fine for the coach when an instigator is assessed with less than five minutes remaining in regulation time.

But the rule also allows for the NHL to "rescind" the penalties if the league doesn't believe the incident was pre-meditated by the player or orchestrated by the coach. The score of the game is often one of the biggest factors and, in this case, overtime had just ended and they were heading to a shootout.

And, in this instance, the league has rescinded the penalties so there will be no suspension to Pronger or fine to Carlyle.

Pronger became incensed when just as the game was ending, Handzus flipped what looked like a harmless wrist shot from the blueline towards Duck goalie Jean Sebastien Giguere, who used his blocker to deflect it to the corner. Pronger went after Handzus, a melee ensued and Pronger dropped the gloves and started pounding on Handzus.

Just sayin...

11-14-2007, 06:42 PM
well the end of overtime is less then five minutes left in regulation, its pronger tho so its ok, if it was a flyer he woulda got 5 games.

11-14-2007, 07:02 PM
ok lets see if i got this right, a flyer does something that gets reviewed and is nailed to the cross, yet pronger starts a fight as the game ends, which is supposed to be an automatic game suspension, and gets nothing.

nhl gets to be a bigger joke everyday.


Anaheim defenceman Chris Pronger is not being suspended and Ducks' head coach Randy Carlyle is not being fined for Pronger instigating a fight with Los Angeles' Michal Handzus last night as the buzzer sounded at the end of overtime in the Ducks' 4-3 shootout win over the Kings.

NHL rules call for an automatic one-game suspension for the player and a $10,000 fine for the coach when an instigator is assessed with less than five minutes remaining in regulation time.

But the rule also allows for the NHL to "rescind" the penalties if the league doesn't believe the incident was pre-meditated by the player or orchestrated by the coach. The score of the game is often one of the biggest factors and, in this case, overtime had just ended and they were heading to a shootout.

And, in this instance, the league has rescinded the penalties so there will be no suspension to Pronger or fine to Carlyle.

Pronger became incensed when just as the game was ending, Handzus flipped what looked like a harmless wrist shot from the blueline towards Duck goalie Jean Sebastien Giguere, who used his blocker to deflect it to the corner. Pronger went after Handzus, a melee ensued and Pronger dropped the gloves and started pounding on Handzus.

Just a day earlier the league fined Gretzky and suspended Boynton for a similiar incident. I moved on from it already, I don't like Pronger and someday he'll get what is coming to him.

Peep the sig, good old fashioned Rob Blake hip check on Perry of the quacks.;D

11-14-2007, 08:38 PM
poll on espn, does fighting belong in hockey, its like 93 - 7 % with almost 3000 votes, go have your say


11-14-2007, 08:39 PM
Heres a quote from JMFJ on the Pronger deal-

Jack Johnson: ``I don't know why (Pronger) would do that. I just kind of laughed at him. There was no need to do that. He obviously knows Handzus isn't a fighter. He was just trying to beat the buzzer with a shot.''

11-14-2007, 10:40 PM
Don't forget this guy...


11-14-2007, 11:56 PM
Don't forget this guy...


Yeah whats up with the Pepsi center being dim and shutting the lights off during intermissions?

11-15-2007, 04:35 PM
Yeah whats up with the Pepsi center being dim and shutting the lights off during intermissions?

Saving energy it's not a bad thing..

11-15-2007, 04:39 PM
and another staal i working his way through the system.

NHL Central Scouting’s preliminary rankings for the 2008 Entry Draft are out and, as expected, Sarnia Sting forward Steven Stamkos heads the list of Ontario Hockey League prospects. Belarussian forward Mikhail Stefanovich of the Quebec Remparts heads the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League list, while power forward Kyle Beach is ranked as the Western Hockey League’s top skater.

Each of the three, Stamkos especially, is expected to be a huge part of whichever team is lucky enough to nab him at this summer’s Entry Draft in Ottawa. But while the top player from each league is a forward, the 2008 Entry Draft will likely be remembered as the year of the blue-chip defenseman.

Three of the top five skaters from the WHL and the OHL are defensemen, while two of the top five from the QMJHL man the point. In addition, the top-ranked skater from the Czech Republic, Denmark, Russia, Sweden, and Switzerland all patrol the blue line for their respective teams.
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The European lists, sorted by country, were released as well and look to be wide open as far as the top skaters are concerned, though some scouts have mentioned Vyacheslav Voinov as the best prospect from across the pond. Voinov emerged as perhaps the lone bright spot on the Russian Super Series blue line this past summer, and proved he could handle the North American game as he was often matched head-to-head with the top Canadian line of Kyle Turris, John Tavares and David Perron. Voinov also quarterbacked the Russian power play, skated in a penalty killing role and generally ate up huge minutes for the Russian side. He boasts a heavy shot, grace under pressure and a bit of a mean streak – a trait that will aid him as he attempts to bring his game to the NHL.

Other names that have been popping up in the European discussions include fellow Russian Nikita Filatov (CSKA 2) and dynamic Swedish forward Mattias Tedenby. Tedenby was mentioned by one scout prior to the start of the 2007-08 season as being the runaway top forward in Europe, if not for his size; Tedenby is listed at 5-foot-11, 176 pounds while skating for his HV 71 Junior team in Sweden. But with the success of last season's first overall pick, Patrick Kane, early in 2007-08, some NHL scouts and GMs may begin re-thinking the use of size as an indicator in determining future NHL prospects. As a result, Tedenby’s stock just might see a generous boost with every two, three, and four-point performance put up by Kane is his first season in the NHL.

The big name on everyone’s list is still Stamkos, who looks to be the complete package of size, speed and smarts. In addition, a trio of OHL defensemen are garnering a lot of interest from NHL scouts -- Drew Doughty of the Guelph Storm, Zach Bogosian of the Peterborough Petes and Alex Pieterangelo of the Niagara IceDogs -- and any one of them could turn up as the first overall pick in 2008.

For the fourth time since 2002-03, a Staal will be gracing the lists of NHL scouts. Young Jared of the Sudbury Wolves checks in at 13th on the OHL list, but has been playing better and more confidently with each game. After scoring only twice in his first nine games, Staal has scored six goals in his last 10, and has added five assists for 11 points over that stretch. His play, coupled with an impressive pedigree, could propel him up the lists as the season progresses.

Regardless, the CSS list is out, and the discussions – and the arguments – are sure to follow.

11-15-2007, 04:47 PM
As i posted before in reference to the AHL team beinf televised on NHL NETWORK so heres our chance to see some monster games. (Heres a list of the televised games)

The NHL Network has announced a 20 game AHL schedule which will be available on the channel in both the United States and Canada. Six of the games will feature the Lake Erie Monsters.

Thursday, Nov. 22 - Toronto @ Lake Erie at 7 p.m. ET
Thursday, Nov. 29 - Lake Erie @ Rochester at 7 p.m. ET
Thursday, Jan. 10 - Lake Erie @ Rockford at 7 p.m. ET
Thursday, Feb. 7 - San Antonio @ Lake Erie at 7 p.m. ET
Thursday, Mar. 13 - Grand Rapids @ Lake Erie at 7 p.m. ET
Thursday, Apr. 17 - Hamilton @ Lake Erie at 7 p.m. ET

11-16-2007, 02:45 AM
ok lets see if i got this right, a flyer does something that gets reviewed and is nailed to the cross, yet pronger starts a fight as the game ends, which is supposed to be an automatic game suspension, and gets nothing.

nhl gets to be a bigger joke everyday.


Anaheim defenceman Chris Pronger is not being suspended and Ducks' head coach Randy Carlyle is not being fined for Pronger instigating a fight with Los Angeles' Michal Handzus last night as the buzzer sounded at the end of overtime in the Ducks' 4-3 shootout win over the Kings.

NHL rules call for an automatic one-game suspension for the player and a $10,000 fine for the coach when an instigator is assessed with less than five minutes remaining in regulation time.

But the rule also allows for the NHL to "rescind" the penalties if the league doesn't believe the incident was pre-meditated by the player or orchestrated by the coach. The score of the game is often one of the biggest factors and, in this case, overtime had just ended and they were heading to a shootout.

And, in this instance, the league has rescinded the penalties so there will be no suspension to Pronger or fine to Carlyle.

Pronger became incensed when just as the game was ending, Handzus flipped what looked like a harmless wrist shot from the blueline towards Duck goalie Jean Sebastien Giguere, who used his blocker to deflect it to the corner. Pronger went after Handzus, a melee ensued and Pronger dropped the gloves and started pounding on Handzus.

He went after him after Handzus shot at Giguere after the horn which is a big NO NO in hockey. I also believed the dude turtled at the end of the overtime. There was and shouldnt have been a suspension. Different scene, different results.

11-16-2007, 03:03 AM
I say....sweep. F the gay ducks.


I guess you were right on the sweep part. 3 in a row. Kings were one of the few teams that played the Ducks tough all year long. We suck at PK and the Kings are one of the top yet taking them down for the sweep. We actually have 3 games in a row on shootout wins. If it wasnt for Phoenix stinking it up, Kings would be back at home...... get me some fine wine when you are down there.

11-16-2007, 06:03 AM
He went after him after Handzus shot at Giguere after the horn which is a big NO NO in hockey. I also believed the dude turtled at the end of the overtime. There was and shouldnt have been a suspension. Different scene, different results.

there is no rule in the nhl rulebook that says not to shoot as the buzzers going, and dont give me that its the code crap cuz the code dosent apply, we are talking rules and only rules, there is clearly a rule here and it was broken yet pronger walks AGAIN, and you cannot rule by result, thats like saying its ok to go into a high school and shoot 100 bullets as long as you dont kill anybody we'll let you go, see the stupidity in ruling by result ?

i bet if pronger was a flyer he would got the game suspension.

11-16-2007, 03:54 PM
Are we going to have chada rant with every questionable hit, fight ,slash this year?

Here i will just make you a template:

I bet if insert name was a flyer he would have gotten a insert suspension amount game suspension.

just copy and paste the rest of the year.

11-16-2007, 03:56 PM
I’m a bit of a nostalgic guy. I have a KISS pinball machine, collect all the old magazines on Ebay that my mom threw away (16, Hit Parader, Some SI, Circus, Sporting News, old Red Sox game programs, etc.). Many times at night, as a way of relaxing and falling asleep (see a previous blog, where I implored The Nation for sleep tips for insomnia) I replay certain parts of my life, in as much detail as I can muster (no, not JUST those parts, perverts).
Yesterday at the Avs’ practice facility, I took a look at the 1995-96 team picture, with a Stanley Cup sitting in the foreground. And, I started getting nostalgic and remembering what, are now, old times.
So, for those in Avs Blog Nation who care and want to revisit some of those memories with me, here are some off-the-top-of-my-head, inside moments from those early days:

-Mike Keane coming through the aisle of the team plane always yelling, for some reason, “Hot coffee here, hot coffee.”

- Mike Ricci making fun of Avs media relations man Jean Martineau for a preseason game hotel in Fresno, Calif. “Nice hotel Jeanny”, Ricci yelled from the back of the bus, in a French accent.

- Marc Crawford saying, “Hang in there, Paxie” to former Avs prospect Paxton Schulte after a rough preseason game.

- Claude Lemieux always saying “Run it” to the bus driver as the light changed from yellow to red.

- Marty McSorley of the Sharks looking at a pair of pants I had on one day and saying with a sad shake of his head, “Bad pants, man.” The pants were purple, hence my nickname for a while with the Avs, “Barney.”

- Patrick Roy saying he wanted a glass of “Lee-mo-nad” from a waiter at a Florida hotel his first year with the Avs.

- Somebody putting shaving cream all over my head after I fell asleep on the team plane back from Sweden, right after 9/11.

- The first time I covered a game at the old Montreal Forum. It just smelled like hockey in there. And they had the greatest hot dogs in NHL history.

- Chris Simon calling Warren Rychel “fat Bundy” after a contentious practice one day, at the old barn at the University of Denver. Bundy was Rychel’s nickname.

- Marc Crawford rightfully chewing me out for calling him at home on Christmas day, asking about a minor injury to Scott Young.

- Troy Murray chewing me out one day in Tampa for a headline to a story of mine in the Hockey News (reporters don’t write the headlines).

- Me getting lost in the Watts section of Los Angeles one night in my rental car.

- Getting a tour of Patrick Roy’s house one day after he first was traded to the Avs, and being amazed at the size of his TV (this was 1995).

- Playing basketball with some Avs players in a Dallas hotel gym, and thinking “don’t quit your day jobs, guys.”

- Sitting, wide-eyed, listening to Jari Kurri tell stories of playing on the same line with Wayne Gretzky.

- Being absolutely amazed at the size of Ray Bourque’s thighs.

- The day in Winnipeg when the team plane needed some work and, after a game to fill the time, sitting with the entire team at a great dinner at the Canadian steakhouse chain Hy’s and marveling at how fast Adam Deadmarsh could put away a thick piece of steak.

- Watching Deadmarsh and Peter Forsberg play ping-pong together in the game room of the Long Island Marriott.

- Always taking grief from Chris Drury about how his Yankees always beat the Red Sox in the end (times have changed Chris!).

- The time in New Hampsire when, the day before Ray Bourque played his first game back in Boston as an Av, flipping over my rental car on an icy road, tumbling down an embankment and landing upside down in deep snow, and having to tunnel my way out from the window.
Then, of getting my car towed to a salvage yard employed by people straight out of “Deliverance” and thinking, “Will I be luckier to have survived this car accident or getting out of this salvage yard alive?”

- Valeri Kamensky’s son nearly breaking my ankle swinging a stick in the locker room after practice one day.

- Patrick Roy laughing hysterically when I asked if he ever kept in touch with former Montreal goalie Jacques Plante (Plante hadn’t been one of the living for several years by that point).

- Pierre Lacroix waking me up in an Edmonton hotel room one morning at about 5:30 to comment on an article I’d written (no, it wasn’t “Nice job”).

- Me having a beer with Ray Bourque the night he was inducted into the Hall of Fame in Toronto and thinking, “I’m having a beer with Ray Bourque on the night he went into the Hall of Fame” and not thinking it was real.

11-16-2007, 04:00 PM

Ilya Bryzgalov ON WAIVERS!!

link (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=222992&hubname=)

n a corresponding move, the Ducks recalled goaltender Jonas Hiller from Portland of the American Hockey League. The roster decision was a move that Ducks general manager Brian Burke was planning for some time.

"I'm keeping my word to a player here," Burke explained to TSN on Friday.

"Ilya Bryzgalov has won three playoff rounds for us and has played very well. But we've committed ourselves to two other goaltenders in Jean-Sebastien Giguere and Jonas Hiller. I told him if I couldn't find a place to play, I would put him on waivers. I gave his agent Don Meehan a time frame, and we're keeping our word to a player. As an organization, we find that to be important. He's a good kid, we know he'll get picked up and he'll play well wherever he goes. He's done his part for us over the last two seasons, and it's time we kept our word."

11-16-2007, 04:43 PM
Damn, Shero pick him up! We could use another goaltender in the mix

11-16-2007, 05:32 PM
Ilya will be picked up in no time. When Guguire was injured, he filled in like a starter. He should be a starter and hats off to Burke for sticking to get him a starting job. Not sure if any trade talks were discussed with teams but he is worth more than a normal back up.

11-16-2007, 05:33 PM
there is no rule in the nhl rulebook that says not to shoot as the buzzers going, and dont give me that its the code crap cuz the code dosent apply, we are talking rules and only rules, there is clearly a rule here and it was broken yet pronger walks AGAIN, and you cannot rule by result, thats like saying its ok to go into a high school and shoot 100 bullets as long as you dont kill anybody we'll let you go, see the stupidity in ruling by result ?

i bet if pronger was a flyer he would got the game suspension.

He doesnt get special treatment. Look at the playoffs last year. He was suspended not once but twice. Your example of shooting up a high school has no merit to what happened.

11-16-2007, 08:20 PM
The new easton S17 helmet...



The S17 features include the MonoLock™ Sizing System, which is a tool-less sizing feature that keeps the bulk off the sides of the helmet and utilizes a “player-friendly” lever on the back.

The InForm™ Fit System, created by Easton’s action sports sister company GIRO, is the best-fitting, easiest to operate micro-adjustment fit-band in hockey. It surrounds the head comfortably and securely.

The S17 also features adjustable ear pieces which add to the customizability of the helmet.

Independent temple foams have a lower density for increased comfort and built in screws to make it easy to access hardware.

Here is what, Easton Vice President, Ned Goldsmith had to say about the new S17 helmet:

“The helmet category is one of the only areas Easton didn’t participate in and the new helmets truly round out our entire product line. We didn’t want to come to market with just any helmet. We wanted a superior design, style, comfort, durability and of course protection. We wouldn’t settle for anything less,” Goldsmith said.

“The new Helmets are going to make an immediate impact. Our long list of NHLers and our dedicated R&D team contributed to the extensive research that was done in the creation of these helmets. The result is stellar and players will notice right away. The new technologies and design will make for the best comfort, fit, protection, and style on the market.”


The Easton Stealth S17 Helmet will be available for sale at your local hockey shop in May 2008. However, some online stores have a history of placing pre-orders for equipment that has not reached the market.

If you are in the market for a new helmet and can’t wait until the S17 arrives, you may want to check out the new Mission Intake Fusion Helmet or the Cascade CHX which claims to have the best concussion protection on the market.

11-16-2007, 08:27 PM
f you’ve been waiting for your turn to get at Gary Bettman and ask him the questions that have been burning you up inside, you now have your chance!

Courtesy of the folks at XM Radio, Gary Bettman will be on the air and will be accessible to fans. I’m honestly not sure how XM convinced him to do this, it’s like sending a lamb to the slaughter. It should be a great show and I hope fans take it a little easy on Mr. Bettman…at least until he gets his feet wet.

Here are the details of the show courtesy of XM Radio:

“NHL Hour” will debut Tuesday, November 27 at 4 p.m. to 5 p.m. EST on NHL Home Ice (XM 204) and NHL.com. On December 6, “NHL Hour” will begin airing every Thursday from 4 p.m. to 5 p.m. EST. The candid, interactive talk radio show will be hosted by a rotation of League executives including Commissioner Bettman, Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly and Senior Executive VP of Hockey Operations Colin Campbell. The show will be co-hosted by XM sports host and former NHL player Bill Clement.

What Bettman Thinks of The Show

“The NHL has the best fans in sports. Thanks to XM Satellite Radio, we are able to offer this unique outlet for answering their questions”

“I look forward to hearing from our fans directly and being a part of this one-of-a-kind radio show.”

How To Get Your Two Cents In

“NHL Hour” will provide fans with the latest news and events from the highest levels of the NHL and encourages fans to submit questions via phone and email.

To submit questions to “NHL Hour”, call 1-877-NHL-ON-XM (1-877-645-6696) or email homeice@xmradio.ca.

How And Where To Listen

“NHL Hour” will broadcast live from the NHL/XM Radio studio in the NHL Powered By Reebok store in Manhattan. The show will re-run on XM Canada and NHL Network, with archived shows available for download on NHL.com via a podcast.

Possiable questions for a canes fan:

1. How many cities have you promised All Star games to that have yet to host one and where is Raleigh on the list?
2. How can the league sit back and do nothing when an individual is selling season tickets for a non-existent NHL franchise?
3. How can you expect to grow or expand the game when you bind the league to a television contract with a network that doesn’t broadcast to over 30% of American households?
4. What are you going to do about rising ticket prices and the fact that attendance is declining across the league in the USA?

I’m sure a few people wouldn’t mind asking Colin Campbell, (head of officials) a few questions as well.

1. Since your current “tough love” approach of a 2 game suspension doesn’t seem to have an affect on reducing dirty play, especially when one player breaks another player’s neck or gives them a head shot and a concussion, does the league have any other ideas for reducing the growing number of head shots and serious head injuries in the game?
2. Does this league review official’s performances? Better yet, do they ever reprimand an official after an obvious mistake? Even better yet, do they ever suspend or punish an official after a gross error in judgment?
3. Does the league ever check officials’ eye sight?
4. Does the league ever test officials on the rules of the game?

11-17-2007, 12:38 PM
I knew it wouldn't take long..

To date, Alex Auld and Mikael Tellqvist have been splitting starts in goal for Phoenix.

The Anaheim Ducks shuffled their backup goaltenders on Friday, making Bryzgalov available to the league.

"Ilya Bryzgalov has won three playoff rounds for us and has played very well," Burke explained to TSN on Friday. "But we've committed ourselves to two other goaltenders in Jean-Sebastien Giguere and Jonas Hiller."
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The 27-year-old Bryzgalov has a 2-3-1 record and a 2.55 goals-against average in nine regular season games this year. He has a career 26-23-7 record with a 2.48 GAA, and a .908 save percentage.

11-17-2007, 01:29 PM
As a Flyer fan, I want to ask Chadta to please refrain from the "suspension" whining. It's over bro. The decisions have been made and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

I love it actually. I love the label "dirty". Maybe it will bring us back to the "broad street bullies" days. It's great to know the league has us under a microscope. I wouldn't have it any other way. Opposing teams are aware of it and hopefully that gives us a small advantage. Bring back the "Philly Flu".

This is a positive bro. While in the 70's and early 80's everyone around the league called us the most intimidating team in the league, the new world of pansy fans and soft players call us dirty and cheap shot artists. Embrase it bro. I am, and I am loving it.

11-17-2007, 02:12 PM
Some interesting numbers i found...
Home ice

And the worst


11-17-2007, 02:13 PM
easy pbn, now the penguins fans know how we feel watching cindy whine and cry about absofrigginlutly everything, gets old dosnt it guys ?

side note, downie may make his return against the sens next weekend, that will be the first game he is eligible to return, and in light of the injuries we have i think he will play, question is how many goons do we dress ? i think cote and eager forsure, where can we find more ?

11-17-2007, 02:19 PM
In reference to avery last week this is old but i thought belaks comment was pretty funny.

Updated: November 13, 2007, 1:59 PM ET

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New York Rangers forward Sean Avery's agitating antics during his pregame warmup Sunday did not go over well with some fellow NHL players.

According to a report in The Toronto Sun, Maple Leafs defenseman Wade Belak took offense to alleged comments from Avery and said the Rangers forward will suffer severe payback.

Before the Rangers' 3-2 shootout win over the Leafs on Saturday night, Avery shoved Leafs forward Jason Blake, then had words with Blake and Darcy Tucker. Avery and Tucker threatened each other with their sticks before the incident cooled.

"He's pissing guys off," Belak told The Sun. "He'll bring harm to himself and not too many guys around the league are going to be sad to see it. If he keeps this up, someone is going to kill him. One day he's going to say something the wrong way and he'll be clubbed.

"And I'm not saying it will be by me, either."

Avery later fought Tucker during the game, completing what is known as the Gordie Howe hat trick (goal-assist-fight) in the Rangers' win.

Colin Campbell, the NHL's director of operations, is investigating the incident, the Toronto Globe and Mail reported Tuesday.

Rangers GM Glen Sather did not allow Avery to talk with the media after the game.

"Everybody knows about Sean's antics, fighting and his ability to get under peoples' skin, but every once in a while he reminds people that he can play," Shanahan said, according to The Sun.

Avery has scored in each of New York's last two games.

Acquired last season by New York in a trade with Los Angeles, Avery injected a shot of energy and gave the Rangers a physical and emotional edge. But the 27-year-old forward's arbitration hearing with the team turned contentious when the Rangers, according to a New York Post story, referred to Avery as "a reasonably effective player as well as a detriment to team" in a brief given to the arbitrator.

The Post reported that management also said, "Avery is not a mature player. He plays, at times, like an individual rather than a member of a team."

"I have no idea what to say," Avery told the newspaper last August. "I don't know what this was about. I'm shocked."

In the past, Avery has drawn the ire of many around the league for saying "visor-wearing French-Canadians" were guilty of dirty play. When he was fined for diving, he blasted the league, saying that he was a target of other players.

11-17-2007, 05:07 PM
Amazing how San Jose is so bad at home but one of the best on the road. As a first place club, maybe they want to drop to 8th seed to get away ice ADVANTAGE for their team. 8th seed might (and not even for sure) 2nd place in the Pacific Division this year.

11-17-2007, 06:24 PM
Bryzgalovs first game vs the kings is a shutout...

11-17-2007, 08:33 PM
if we didnt get biron i was hoping philly wouldhave landed Bryzgalov, glad to see he should get to play now.

onto avery, i can honestly hardly wait for the first game against the rags with downie in the lineup, i have a feeling the 2 of them might not see eye to eye on many things.

as for belak, everybody thinks it, but ya cant say stuff like that to the media, now you cant do anything dumbass.

11-23-2007, 12:15 AM
Bruce Boudreau has been named the team's interim head coach, vice president and general manager George McPhee announced today.

The Capitals have been a disappoitment this season with a 6-13-1 mark. They are last in the Southwest Division, eight points behind the fourth-place Florida Panthers.

The Capitals lost to the Atlanta Thrashers 5-1 last night, with the crowd jeering the team and chanting for Hanlon's dismissal.
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"He understood that it had to be done. We had talked after our game on Monday night and had some concerns about whether he was losing the team," general manager George McPhee told the Associated Press. "Glen is a first class guy . [but] it's not about friendships and you've got to do what's best for the Washington Capitals."

"Hopefully a fresh voice will get some guys going here," goalie Olie Kolzig said.

Earlier in the week, Capitals owner Ted Leonsis had written a blog expressing his disappoitnemtnt to fans.

"I can't sleep. I was up at 4:30 am this morning. I am in pain. I am angry. I want desperately for us to turn it around and win some games as does everyone in our organization." Leonsis wrote. "I am not oblivious to what is happening."

The Capitals noted in a press release that no timetable has been set for naming a head coach beyond Boudreau's interim status. The rest of the Capitals coaching staff will, however, remain in place.

Boudreau, 52, has coached championship teams in the American Hockey League (AHL) and the ECHL and is in his third year as the head coach of the Hershey Bears, Washington's AHL affiliate.

"[Boudreau] has had tremendous success in Hershey, with different groups of players. He has terrific hockey instincts . he's a hockey man" said McPhee.

Boudreau has compiled a 103-45-11-16 record with the Bears. He led the team to the Eastern Conference championship and the Calder Cup finals in each of his first two years in Hershey, winning the Calder Cup in 2006.

"I haven't really had a lot of time to focus on too much, except that it's unfortunate because Glen was a good friend of mine," Boudreau said. "But at the same time, I've sort of waited 32 years for this opportunity."

Boudreau will make his debut behind the Capitals bench on Friday in Philadelphia.

11-23-2007, 12:27 PM


11-26-2007, 04:59 AM
NHL Players Association Executive Director Paul Kelly and his entourage have visited with seven of the league's 30 teams on their fall tour.

Issues discussed include bigger nets, smaller goalie equipment and mandatory visors, to name a few. But the one topic that interests players most right now is removal of the instigator penalty.

Kelly is asking players the question, "Do you want it removed?," and sources say the vast majority are saying yes.

At the competition committee level last year, the players voted in favour of leaving it in.

So, what's changed?

As one player put it, "guys have to be more accountable," citing hits to the head and hits from behind this season as the motivator for urgency.

Entering Wednesday's 11-game NHL schedule, there have been a whopping 155 fights this season. Instigator penalties have been handed out just 10 times, or six per cent of the fights.

Any player who accumulates three instigator penalties receives an automatic two-game suspension, and Philadelphia's Ben Eager was the lone player suspended last season.

According to the players, the instigator penalty corrodes the code.

11-27-2007, 09:56 PM
Anybody watchin? just a great game going into OT right now.

11-27-2007, 10:31 PM
What a joke....

TORONTO -- Philadelphia Flyers forward Scott Hartnell has been suspended for two games, without pay, as a result of being assessed a game misconduct during NHL game #342 against the Boston Bruins on Nov. 26, the National Hockey League announced today.

"It appears that Mr. Hartnell was attempting to let up on delivering a check to an opponent that was in a vulnerable position," said NHL Senior Executive Vice President of Hockey Operations Colin Campbell. "However, at the point of contact, he did deliver a blow to the head of Mr. Alberts that resulted in an injury."

Under the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, and based on his average annual salary, Hartnell will forfeit $44,919.78. The money goes to the Players’ Emergency Assistance Fund.

Hartnell was assessed a major penalty for boarding and a game misconduct for a hit on Boston defenseman Andrew Alberts at 14:22 of the second period.

Hartnell will miss Wednesday's game at Carolina and Dec. 1 against Dallas. He will be eligible to return Dec. 5 at Minnesota.