Should Columbia Allow Ahmadinijihad to Speak on Campus?

[Rohirrim]

I say yes. But questions should not be regulated. We should use this opportunity to show the Iranian people what free speech looks like. He should be grilled by students so that his insanity comes out.

[Spider]

if the campus body wants him there , then yes .......... for what ever reason

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Yes.

They can put him on the hot seat and show him that most Americans aren't afraid to engage him in direct talks or debates like the pinhead regime.

[Hotrod]

You really cant debate a liar.

[ak1971]

Yes. but its entirely up to that college community.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You really cant debate a liar.

Making an effort is more American than Bush's kangaroo court.

[TailgateNut]

You really cant debate a liar.


Is Bush attending the debate?

[Rohirrim]

You really cant debate a liar.

But you can show him for what he is. I like the idea of the Iranian people seeing this guy being shown for what he is. The mullahs will try to block it, but they can't block the internet.

[Garcia Bronco]

I think they should.

[Garcia Bronco]

The mullahs will try to block it, but they can't block the internet.

Oh yes they can.

[yavoon]

You really cant debate a liar.

thread winning post.

[yavoon]

I say he can only speak if he gives one of his speeches that he gives to the iranian ppl. otherwise I'd prefer he find other venues for his nauseating propaganda.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

You really cant debate a liar.Sure you can but I'm pretty sure his whole spiel will be how the press has put words in his mouth, etc...

[Rohirrim]

Ha! I guess Columbia's president laced into him pretty good. Introduced him as a "petty, cruel, dictator." It didn't look like he expected that.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/24/us.iran/index.html

[yavoon]

Ha! I guess Columbia's president laced into him pretty good. Introduced him as a "petty, cruel, dictator." It didn't look like he expected that.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/24/us.iran/index.html

that is funny:).

[alkemical]

You really cant debate a liar.

Well... it is soon election time....

[alkemical]

But you can show him for what he is. I like the idea of the Iranian people seeing this guy being shown for what he is. The mullahs will try to block it, but they can't block the internet.

you can. there are only so many "choke points" that come in and out of a country. It would be aiken to a large network for a large company.

There are hacks and ways around it - but you'd need that knowledge trickled down through the people.....

[NYBronco]

I say yes. But questions should not be regulated. We should use this opportunity to show the Iranian people what free speech looks like. He should be grilled by students so that his insanity comes out.

I agree with hopes the Iranian people will be able to see and hear what free speech without fear of being killed, maimed or jailed is all about. I bet Ahmadinjihad doesn't realize what he is about to do.

[Spider]

I agree with hopes the Iranian people will be able to see and hear what free speech without fear of being killed, maimed or jailed is all about. I bet Ahmadinjihad doesn't realize what he is about to do.

so you know more about Iran then he does ?

[defenseman]

You really cant debate a liar.

cigar for the man...dman

[defenseman]

Yes. but its entirely up to that college community.

Yes it's their call to, let little freaking hitler on campus, and to throw ROTC off of campus. How nice.....time to pull some federal funding from these mullets....dman

[Crushaholic]

Sure...he should be ALLOWED to speak. However, I question the sanity of the Columbia committee who invited him...

[Spider]

um the ROTC actively recruits , and is active in the school , president almond joy is going there to speak ........ hardly see how the 2 are common

[Bronco Bob]

Yes it's their call to, let little freaking hitler on campus, and to throw ROTC off of campus. How nice.....time to pull some federal funding from these mullets....dman


For 250 years Columbia University has produced many of the great leaders and thinkers of our time. It has strong historical ties to this nation, having been transformed amid the turmoil of the Revolutionary War from Kings College to the institution we now know as Columbia. From Colonel Alexander Hamilton to General Dwight D. Eisenhower, examples of national service and military leadership abound among Columbia's alumni.



The Reserve Officers Training Corps and other military educational assistance programs provide students with the opportunity to continue that tradition of leadership and scholarship through preparation for a career as a military officer.



ROTC is available to provide students with scholarships and financial aid while concurrently affording the students some of the finest leadership and management training in the country.


http://www.columbia.edu/cu/rotc/

[ant1999e]

um the ROTC actively recruits , and is active in the school , president almond joy is going there to speak ........ hardly see how the 2 are common

If this is what you call active.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=%7BD3103E3E-CD4F-48D0-B1C4-31C17570EEF5%7D

The university’s ban on ROTC remained in place until a 1980 decision to not only allow its students to participate in the ROTC program at nearby Fordham University, but also to have a record of ROTC classes displayed on their Columbia transcripts. In 1990 however, this policy came to an end. While Columbia students could still take part in ROTC programs on neighboring college campuses, their transcripts no longer reflected that participation. To this day, ROTC classes are not considered part of the regular curriculum of studies. When the military recently forced Columbia to allow on-campus military recruiting (under the banner of the Solomon Amendment, which allows for the denial of federal funding to colleges that prohibit or prevent ROTC or military recruitment), the university’s president openly urged students not to interview – because of what he called the military’s discrimination against homosexuals.

[Spider]

If this is what you call active.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=%7BD3103E3E-CD4F-48D0-B1C4-31C17570EEF5%7D

The university’s ban on ROTC remained in place until a 1980 decision to not only allow its students to participate in the ROTC program at nearby Fordham University, but also to have a record of ROTC classes displayed on their Columbia transcripts. In 1990 however, this policy came to an end. While Columbia students could still take part in ROTC programs on neighboring college campuses, their transcripts no longer reflected that participation. To this day, ROTC classes are not considered part of the regular curriculum of studies. When the military recently forced Columbia to allow on-campus military recruiting (under the banner of the Solomon Amendment, which allows for the denial of federal funding to colleges that prohibit or prevent ROTC or military recruitment), the university’s president openly urged students not to interview – because of what he called the military’s discrimination against homosexuals.
what can I say ? I always thought that letting students participate in something meant active ......... Must be all that crazy hippy talk

[defenseman]

For 250 years Columbia University has produced many of the great leaders and thinkers of our time. It has strong historical ties to this nation, having been transformed amid the turmoil of the Revolutionary War from Kings College to the institution we now know as Columbia. From Colonel Alexander Hamilton to General Dwight D. Eisenhower, examples of national service and military leadership abound among Columbia's alumni.



The Reserve Officers Training Corps and other military educational assistance programs provide students with the opportunity to continue that tradition of leadership and scholarship through preparation for a career as a military officer.



ROTC is available to provide students with scholarships and financial aid while concurrently affording the students some of the finest leadership and management training in the country.


http://www.columbia.edu/cu/rotc/

You are spouting a Bunch of GARBAGE.........keep drinking the Koolaid SFB's:spit: ....god forbid the truth find it's way into a brain cell or two...dman

*This columbia.edu stuff is right up there with the lies little hitler spouted off today. Real nice university there boy oh boy, freaking nutcase of a pres....dman

[Spider]

You are spouting a Bunch of GARBAGE.........keep drinking the Koolaid SFB's:spit: ....god forbid the truth find it's way into a brain cell or two...dman

*This columbia.edu stuff is right up there with the lies little hitler spouted off today. Real nice university there boy oh boy, freaking nutcase of a pres....dman

well almond joy got bitch smacked pretty good there

[SonOfLe-loLang]

well almond joy got b**** smacked pretty good there

Isn't he really laughing loudest? The American "occupation" of Iraq has allowed Iran to infiltrate southern Iraq, something that they've been wanting to do for quite a while! Now they can control that oil pipeline (which is what this war is really about anyway). Good job, george!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Isn't he really laughing loudest? The American "occupation" of Iraq has allowed Iran to infiltrate southern Iraq, something that they've been wanting to do for quite a while! Now they can control that oil pipeline (which is what this war is really about anyway). Good job, george!

I'm sure GeeDubya and his oil industry patrons are laughing all the way to the bank insofar as this is just one more way to keep oil prices high.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

I'm sure GeeDubya and his oil industry patrons are laughing all the way to the bank insofar as this is just one more way to keep oil prices high.

Not so sure about that, this is the exact thing that makes them nervous

[Spider]

Isn't he really laughing loudest? The American "occupation" of Iraq has allowed Iran to infiltrate southern Iraq, something that they've been wanting to do for quite a while! Now they can control that oil pipeline (which is what this war is really about anyway). Good job, george!

matter of time ....... we all know we are going to attack Iran , but as it is right now the Bush cabal and big oil are happy as hell

[SonOfLe-loLang]

matter of time ....... we all know we are going to attack Iran , but as it is right now the Bush cabal and big oil are happy as hell

Ummm, i dont see how you think its a foregone conclusion that we will attack Iran. It's a huge mistake. And the admin is not happy as hell because they will have to pay more for oil.

[Spider]

Ummm, i dont see how you think its a foregone conclusion that we will attack Iran. It's a huge mistake. And the admin is not happy as hell because they will have to pay more for oil.

of course it is a huge mistake , but when has that ever stopped anyone in government ?
Believe me , it is cheaper doing it this way then it is to go find it ......

[SonOfLe-loLang]

cheaper? Since when has war been cheaper? We really need to invest in research and development for an alternative source.

[Spider]

cheaper? Since when has war been cheaper? We really need to invest in research and development for an alternative source.

........ war is very profitable for those in the right places ,Cheap remark is about the oil and oil companies

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

And the admin is not happy as hell because they will have to pay more for oil.

This administration is nothing more than a proxy for the oil industry and the Saudi royals, so anything that makes the price of oil go up is just another "mission accomplished."

http://www.giveupblog.com/images/kiss-saudi.jpg

It's quid pro quo: The Bushistas get the power and the glory, (and the kickbacks) Exxon-Mobil and the Saudis make out like bandits.

[spdirty]

I just wish that someone wouldve put a ****ing bullet into his ****ing brain while we had the opportunity. Just my gut feeling, but this nutjob is gonna start a major ****storm soon which we are gonna have to deal with...wish we'd just kill the bastard, start the ****storm, and get it over with before he drops a nuke on Israel.

And before I get called a nutjob, just imagine if Hitler came to Columbia in 1934...would it have been a good idea then to take his ass out? I just think that this little prick is the Hitler of our time, and we missed a golden opportunity.

Shouldve just taken that bastard out, dropped a few nukes on Iran till we get unconditional surrender, take their oil, and throw Michael Moore in Gitmo.

Or we couldve just arrested him, thrown him in a pound me in the ass prison for a month or so, then sent him back to Iran. After that, let Bush hold a press conference announcing "There is now at least 1 homosexual in Iran."

I know, I'm being irrational, but I can dream.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Yes.

They can put him on the hot seat and show him that most Americans aren't afraid to engage him in direct talks or debates like the pinhead regime.

That's pretty goofy there, LABF.

We dont have to show that guy anything. He's clinging on like a dingleberry.

This is a political move on his part. His people are sick of him and he's pulling the old "I stand in the face of the global superpower" card.

He has no power over or against us.

He's a speck.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

That's pretty goofy there, LABF.

We dont have to show that guy anything. He's clinging on like a dingleberry.

This is a political move on his part. His people are sick of him and he's pulling the old "I stand in the face of the global superpower" card.

He has no power over or against us.

He's a speck.

It doesn't matter what you or I or anyone else thinks of Ahmadinjihad - it makes Bush and his crew look like a bunch of cowards (or, worse yet, like diplomatically-challenged hawks) when they refuse to engage in direct talks.

Bottom line: Ahmadinjihad is a douche bag and a world-class loon, but it would be foolish not to look at the history of interference and intervention in Iran's internal politics by our own country and the resulting blowback, i.e., the resurgence of radical Islamic fundamentalism (which, in turn, creates popular support for the Ahmadinjihads of the world) in that country.

And your claim that Ahmadinjihad has no power over us is not true. Anything we do to Iran is going to elicit a response from its trade partners, viz., Russia, China, et al. Ahmadinjihad may be crazy, but he's not stupid - he can grasp the implications here.

[epicSocialism4tw]

It doesn't matter what you or I or anyone else thinks of Ahmadinjihad - it makes Bush and his crew look like a bunch of cowards (or, worse yet, like diplomatically-challenged hawks) when they refuse to engage in direct talks.

Bottom line: Ahmadinjihad is a douche bag and a world-class loon, but it would be foolish not to look at the history of interference and intervention in Iran's internal politics by our own country and the resulting blowback, i.e., the resurgence of radical Islamic fundamentalism (which, in turn, creates popular support for the Ahmadinjihads of the world) in that country.

And your claim that Ahmadinjihad has no power over us is not true. Anything we do to Iran is going to elicit a response from its trade partners, viz., Russia, China, et al. Ahmadinjihad may be crazy, but he's not stupid - he can grasp the implications here.

We dont have to address that loon in the least.

Lowering ourselves to talk on his level legitimizes what he has to say, all of which is completely illegitimate.

I find it shameful that Americans, regardless of party affiliation, would use a tool like this nothing-man to try to advance their little political agendas. We should all be united in closing the door to people like this. If they dont like it, they can get off of the economic teet and shut their mouths.

[Bronco Bob]

I just wish that someone wouldve put a ****ing bullet into his ****ing brain while we had the opportunity. Just my gut feeling, but this nutjob is gonna start a major ****storm soon which we are gonna have to deal with...wish we'd just kill the bastard, start the ****storm, and get it over with before he drops a nuke on Israel.

And before I get called a nutjob, just imagine if Hitler came to Columbia in 1934...would it have been a good idea then to take his ass out? I just think that this little prick is the Hitler of our time, and we missed a golden opportunity.

Shouldve just taken that bastard out, dropped a few nukes on Iran till we get unconditional surrender, take their oil, and throw Michael Moore in Gitmo.

Or we couldve just arrested him, thrown him in a pound me in the ass prison for a month or so, then sent him back to Iran. After that, let Bush hold a press conference announcing "There is now at least 1 homosexual in Iran."

I know, I'm being irrational, but I can dream.

The little baboon's a figurehead, he has no power. Hitler controlled
the army, the press, the police, and the industrial base. None of
which this guy controls. All ranting about him does is give him more
credibility back home.

[Doggcow]

http://media.scout.com/media/image/43/436214.jpg

Romeen?!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Lowering ourselves to talk on his level legitimizes what he has to say, all of which is completely illegitimate.

Who says we have to lower ourselves to his level in order to talk to him? If we are so morally and intellectually superior, then this should be self-evident, right?

And not all of what he might have to say is illegitimate.

Saddam Hussein was a despicable POS and a murderous thug, but that doesn't mean he didn't also take a certain amount of "sensitive information" about our government's involvement in the ME to his grave.

We like to think that whatever we do is OK because we own the biggest house on the block. After all the trouble this attitude has brought us in the Mid East, you'd think we'd have learned our lesson by now.

I find it shameful that Americans, regardless of party affiliation, would use a tool like this nothing-man to try to advance their little political agendas.

What political agenda would that be? And whose party?

We should all be united in closing the door to people like this.

I think that policy puts us at a disadvantage in our dealings with these people and with the rest of the world. It just creates the perception that we are arrogant, hawkish, and diplomatically-challenged (to say nothing of the obvious violation of the "know thine enemy" and "keep your friends close and your enemies closer" principles.)

[spdirty]

The little baboon's a figurehead, he has no power. Hitler controlled
the army, the press, the police, and the industrial base. None of
which this guy controls. All ranting about him does is give him more
credibility back home.

But he pisses me off. Wish we wouldve at least made him a homosexual before sending him back.

[OrangeDoofus]

George W. Bush said this: (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297823,00.html)

"This is a place of high learning and if the president (of Columbia) thinks it's a good idea to have the leader from Iran come and talk to the students as an educational experience, I guess it's OK with me."

Holy ****. I can't believe I actually have to agree with George Bush.

[Bob]

The information from the speech will be cut and pasted, and used on Iranian TV and elsewhere as additional propaganda, and will be seen by those in Iran who hate this guy's guts and "support" us as another slap in the face.

[ant1999e]

This administration is nothing more than a proxy for the oil industry and the Saudi royals, so anything that makes the price of oil go up is just another "mission accomplished."

http://www.giveupblog.com/images/kiss-saudi.jpg

It's quid pro quo: The Bushistas get the power and the glory, (and the kickbacks) Exxon-Mobil and the Saudis make out like bandits.

What's with the homemade gay porn?:giggle:

[Bronco Bob]

http://www.giveupblog.com/images/kiss-saudi.jpg


What's with the homemade gay porn?:giggle:

Actually what happened is the Saudi guy stopped breathing and
Bush is giving him mouth to mouth resuscitation.
Just another example of the US government giving free
medical care to foreigners while American citizens go
without healthcare. :peace:

[Bob]

Isn't he really laughing loudest? The American "occupation" of Iraq has allowed Iran to infiltrate southern Iraq, something that they've been wanting to do for quite a while! Now they can control that oil pipeline (which is what this war is really about anyway). Good job, george!

Bush bad Bush bad Bush bad

OCD issues seen in all its glory evry day on the Mane.

[ant1999e]

http://www.giveupblog.com/images/kiss-saudi.jpg




Actually what happened is the Saudi guy stopped breathing and
Bush is giving him mouth to mouth resuscitation.
Just another example of the US government giving free
medical care to foreigners while American citizens go
without healthcare. :peace:

If that's your idea of free healthcare, I'm a little worried.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://www.bartcop.com/ahma-visa.jpg