Loss aside, we have a pretty damn good QB

[lazarus4444]

I don't know about anybody else but the type of throws cutler was making really impressed me! He was throwing over and around people, it was awesome. That throw to grahm was right on the money and if he makes that catch we probably win this game. This kid is the real deal and if we can get our special teams and defense on board then we'll have a helluva team :strong:

[rovolution]

the thing that really impressed me was his mobility in the pocket.

The guy was making some incredibly athletic moves!!

Jay C. to B. Marshall is going to be an exciting tandem for years to come. Cant wait till Tony Scheffler comes back!!!

[Hogan11]

He needs to throw to Stokely more often.

[cabronco]

He did make alot of nice passes today and shrugged off a tackler on one play. It seems each game he gets better and better. I cant think of any errant throws besides the pick at the end when he was trying to make something out of nothing. I think he's a keeper. :thumbsup:

[MrPeepers]

Cutler didn't speak with the media afterward because he was getting treatment for what the team said was a ''mild ankle sprain.''
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/scoreboards/2007/09/23/2562_viewcast_recap.html

[Atlas]

The whole offense impressed me. I mean they only had the ball 3 times in the whole first half!!

Cutler is going to be amazing, I said two weeks ago that Shanny better think hard about extending Marshall. If he stays healthy he will be the best WR ever to wear a Bronco uniform.

The run D is sad. I would think Shanny and Bates will be scourinmg the waiver wire. Maybe, they will bring Kenedy back.

[no-pseudo-fan]

Cutler is the real deal. Only the elite QB's have that kind of vision in the face of defender. He made some great plays.

[TheChamp24]

I think he's going to be a stud QB. Just maybe needs the playcalling to step up in certain situations, and maybe utilize the TE more in the passing game. Oh wait, we tried that and our $30 million TE dropped the most crucial pass in the game.

[Kaylore]

The whole offense impressed me. I mean they only had the ball 3 times in the whole first half!!

Cutler is going to be amazing, I said two weeks ago that Shanny better think hard about extending Marshall. If he stays healthy he will be the best WR ever to wear a Bronco uniform.

The run D is sad. I would think Shanny and Bates will be scourinmg the waiver wire. Maybe, they will bring Kenedy back.

Kennedy sucked against the run. That wouldn't help anything.

But I agree, we should sign Marshall sooner rather than later.

And Cutler is amazing. His growth from one game to the next is incredible. He's already stepping up into the pocket and taking shots to complete the tough passes. To fix that in one game is crazy. He is going to keep us in a lot of games throughout the year and he'll only get better and better.

[24champ]

Cutler didn't speak with the media afterward because he was getting treatment for what the team said was a ''mild ankle sprain.''
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/scoreboards/2007/09/23/2562_viewcast_recap.html

yeah he looked kinda gimpy at the end there.

[Atlas]

Kennedy sucked against the run. That wouldn't help anything.

But I agree, we should sign Marshall sooner rather than later.

And Cutler is amazing. His growth from one game to the next is incredible. He's already stepping up into the pocket and taking shots to complete the tough passes. To fix that in one game is crazy. He is going to keep us in a lot of games throughout the year and he'll only get better and better.

MAybe Kenedy sucked in the preseason, Maybe he sucked in Camp, BUT if he is the best that is out there Denver needs to bring him back because they aren't going anywhere if they can't stop the run. If there is another DT out there that can help more than they need to bring him in.
This offense is really going to start to click. I mean they are on the verge of greatness. Shanny can't afford to have the defense holding them back...... He needs to make some moves because that DL is not going to get better on its own.

[Kaylore]

MAybe Kenedy sucked in the preseason, Maybe he sucked in Camp, BUT if he is the best that is out there Denver needs to bring him back because they aren't going anywhere if they can't stop the run. If there is another DT out there that can help more than they need to bring him in.
This offense is really going to start to click. I mean they are on the verge of greatness. Shanny can't afford to have the defense holding them back...... He needs to make some moves because that DL is not going to get better on its own.
We spent a pick on Kennedy and cut him anyway. I think that alone should tell you how awful he is. Against the run he is worthless. Cutting him put egg on the organization's face and wasted a pick and the coaching staff still felt that was preferable to keeping him on the team.

The good news is that if our offense can get going and put up some points early we can take the run game out of the opponent's playbook entirely. That was the biggest problem today. The Jags controlled the game tempo and we didn't. If we score two touchdowns right away and get them to pass a bit more there's a good chance the outcome is different. It will come, but it will take time.

[no-pseudo-fan]

We spent a pick on Kennedy and cut him anyway. I think that alone should tell you how awful he is. Against the run he is worthless. Cutting him put egg on the organization's face and wasted a pick and the coaching staff still felt that was preferable to keeping him on the team.

The good news is that if our offense can get going and put up some points early we can take the run game out of the opponent's playbook entirely. That was the biggest problem today. The Jags controlled the game tempo and we didn't. If we score two touchdowns right away and get them to pass a bit more there's a good chance the outcome is different. It will come, but it will take time.

I agree with you on this one Kaylore. You seemed a little negative earlier. Our defense will get better, and our offense is a sleeping giant. We just need to find our niche.

[theAPAOps5]

The thing about Cutler is his uncanny knack to make DL miss on what looks to be a sure sack. Its like a 6th sense with him sometimes. Probably just instinct from his Vandy days of constant pressure.

[Atlas]

We spent a pick on Kennedy and cut him anyway. I think that alone should tell you how awful he is. Against the run he is worthless. Cutting him put egg on the organization's face and wasted a pick and the coaching staff still felt that was preferable to keeping him on the team.

The good news is that if our offense can get going and put up some points early we can take the run game out of the opponent's playbook entirely. That was the biggest problem today. The Jags controlled the game tempo and we didn't. If we score two touchdowns right away and get them to pass a bit more there's a good chance the outcome is different. It will come, but it will take time.

I stated Denver should get the best available DT, whether it's Kenedy or someone else. I found a better DT. I started a thread on who Denver should pick up tomorrow.

[Crushaholic]

The game ended with a Cutler interception. If this had been Jake Plummer doing the throwing, the QB would be tarred and feathered on this site...

[BroncoBuff]

He needs to throw to Stokely more often.
We have enough targets - I think he needs to start throwing to the END ZONE more ... high 'upside' passes. We have the total yardage output, but not the points. So, throw for the end zone more! Not just BOMBS, but when we get inside the opposition 30, we should throw routes to <5 yard line ...

I'll betcha dollars on doughnuts that we LEAD THE LEAGUE in 20+ yard pass completions that end between the opponents 25 and 5 yard lines....

[Los Broncos]

That long pass to Marshall could have been a td

I love his arm strength

[TheChamp24]

I do agree with that BB. Throw it into the end zone.
Also, why does Shanny have to get cute with the playcalling down there? Its like he completely changes it. Look at what the Packers did inside the 10 to the Chargers. Lined up 5 WR's/TE's with Favre in the shotgun. I think that would work with Cutler. Hit a fade or slant for a touchdown.

[BroncoBuff]

It's like that famous Reggie Jackson sound bite (paraphrasing) ...
Fawk all these singles and doubles, if you
wanna win the godd***ed fawking game, you
gotta hit the godd***ed fawking ball over the
godd***ed fawking fence!"
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Reggie Jackson

Stop throwing so many passes to the opponent's 15-20 yard line! If I had a dollar for every time Marshall has been stopped inside the 10-yard line this year, I'd have ... well, five bucks. If there was any way to get that stat - # of completions to a receiver who's stopped inside the opponents 5 and 10 yard lines - we would WIN that stat.

[BroncoSoja]

Man I wish I could have seen this game, sounds like the kid is comming along just fine. Tis is GOOD!

[Ratboy]

The game ended with a Cutler interception. If this had been Jake Plummer doing the throwing, the QB would be tarred and feathered on this site...

The game ended on a Daniel Graham drop.

[BroncoSoja]

I do agree with that BB. Throw it into the end zone.
Also, why does Shanny have to get cute with the playcalling down there? Its like he completely changes it. Look at what the Packers did inside the 10 to the Chargers. Lined up 5 WR's/TE's with Favre in the shotgun. I think that would work with Cutler. Hit a fade or slant for a touchdown.


Lord knows what the 'Master Mind' is doing anymore, seriously I think all of are Goal line problems can be put on one persons shoulder.. And no im not talking about Plummer.

They kid can play Shanny, why don't you let him.

[BroncoBuff]

I do agree with that BB. Throw it into the end zone.
Also, why does Shanny have to get cute with the playcalling down there? Its like he completely changes it. Look at what the Packers did inside the 10 to the Chargers. Lined up 5 WR's/TE's with Favre in the shotgun. I think that would work with Cutler. Hit a fade or slant for a touchdown.

Good points ... I'll tell you one thing: Nate Jackson's TD today was the same play we ran for a Scheffler TD in San Diego last year, and that play is a high-risk 99-yard pick-six waiting to happen. No need to be so cute .... it's nice to see Jay thread the needle with that dart for a TD, but who needs the risk when you're on the fawking ONE YARD LINE?

[TheChamp24]

Good points ... I'll tell you one thing: Nate Jackson's TD today was the same play we ran for a Scheffler TD in San Diego last year, and that play is a high-risk 99-yard pick-six waiting to happen. No need to be so cute .... it's nice to see Jay thread the needle with that dart for a TD, but who needs the risk when you're on the fawking ONE YARD LINE?

Oh man, that TD pass to Jackson had me worried. Watch the replay and the CB or S almost had that for a touchdown the other way. It was fantastic we scored, but damn...
What happened to the PA boots down there? I'd love to see us lining up in an i form back(Henry and Sapp), 2 TE's(Graham on the left and I guess Nate on the right since Scheff is hurt) with Walker on the right. Have Henry and the OL be blocking to the right, then BAM, PA boot left. Graham will come free and do a short route to the left, Sapp will be in the flat to the left, Jackson will run a curl route and Walker a crossing pattern to the left.

[Kaylore]

I stated Denver should get the best available DT, whether it's Kenedy or someone else. I found a better DT. I started a thread on who Denver should pick up tomorrow.

Can he do flips? :D

[Kaylore]

I agree with you on this one Kaylore. You seemed a little negative earlier. Our defense will get better, and our offense is a sleeping giant. We just need to find our niche.
Somehow people took my believe that the Colts are going to own us to mean our team sucks and is doomed. We're not the Chiefs, who are staring down the barrel of the shotgun of mediocrity named Herm. We've found a franchise quarterback and one of the better ones to come along in a long time. The rest of the stuff is easy to build. Teams go decades without being able to find a QB. We're set for at least the next twelve years.

The game ended with a Cutler interception. If this had been Jake Plummer doing the throwing, the QB would be tarred and feathered on this site...
Jay played great all game and then threw an int after the game was out of reach and Graham dropped a pass on fourth down. Plummer would have been flailing around like an idiot all game had he played yesterday. Let it go. The better QB is here. Plummer did great things for this team, but he's gone now.

[Taco John]

The game ended with a Cutler interception. If this had been Jake Plummer doing the throwing, the QB would be tarred and feathered on this site...


After a few years people will stop doing this and just accept that Jake is gone and Cutler is our QB now...

[DukeWoody]

The TD that Jackson scored today is the same TD play WAlker tried to score with against Chockland the last game and the same TD Sheff scored against the Bengals X-Mas eve last year..


It's a staple play Shanny learned out of the Walsh bible...

[BroncoBuff]

Oh man, that TD pass to Jackson had me worried. Watch the replay and the CB or S almost had that for a touchdown the other way. It was fantastic we scored, but damn....
Yep. It was that razor-close when Schefler scored on the same play against Cincy last year too... fun to watch Jay throw that dart, but it's just too risky from the 1-yard line.

If he stays healthy he will be the best WR ever to wear a Bronco uniform
Yep. That preternatural weeble-wobble stay-upright yac skill we all secretly thought might've been a bit flukish on the Sunday Night TD against Seattle last year is now an every-catch-occurrence. Plus the other-wordly tiptoes against Buffalo for the TD mirrors that unreal (though questionable) catch on the 1-yard line vs. Cincy last year.
We have an astonishingly bright WR position upside now ...

That long pass to Marshall could have been a td
I love his arm strength
I don't get it ... I love his arm strength too, but that particular pass was 10 yards underthrown ???

[BroncoBuff]

The game ended with a Cutler interception. If this had been Jake Plummer doing the throwing, the QB would be tarred and feathered on this site...
I'm surprised at you Crush ... it was a 9-point game with 1:20 to play. No ghost of a chance really.

[v2micca]

9 points with 1:20 to play and no time outs. Yeah, the game was already over at that point thanks to our run D and special teams play.

[Los Broncos]

Yep. It was that razor-close when Schefler scored on the same play against SD last year too... fun to watch Jay throw that dart, but it's just too risky from the 1-yard line.


Yep. That preternatural weeble-wobble stay-upright yac skill we all secretly thought might've been a bit flukish on the Sunday Night TD against Seattle last year is now an every-catch-occurrence. Plus the other-wordly tiptoes against Buffalo for the TD mirrors that unreal (though questionable) catch on the 1-yard line vs. Cincy last year.
We have an astonishingly bright WR position upside now ...


I don't get it ... I love his arm strength too, but that particular pass was 10 yards underthrown ???

I'm saying it could of been, it was under thrown and Marshall had come to get it.

Thats just one play i can think of where we could have scored.

[maher_tyler]

I don't know about anybody else but the type of throws cutler was making really impressed me! He was throwing over and around people, it was awesome. That throw to grahm was right on the money and if he makes that catch we probably win this game. This kid is the real deal and if we can get our special teams and defense on board then we'll have a helluva team :strong:

I agree on all points..he barely even steps into his throws from the looks of it and he still has a lot of zip on the ball..you'd think i'd be more upset after a loss but watching this kid play and grow every game is just awesome..that throw to Graham was money..there is no excuse for dropping that ball!!

[BroncoBuff]

The TD that Jackson scored today is the same TD play WAlker tried to score with against Chockland the last game and the same TD Sheff scored against the Bengals X-Mas eve last year..


It's a staple play Shanny learned out of the Walsh bible...
Was that Scheffler TD against Cincy? okay, I was thinking at the Chargers ... either way, it's kinda risky, given that you're at the one yard line.

[DukeWoody]

Was that Scheffler TD against Cincy? okay, I was thinking at the Chargers ... either way, it's kinda risky, given that you're at the one yard line.

I hold my breath everytime i see it executed because the margin for error is next to nil and the more they run it, the sooner it will be going 99 the wrong way for a TD, because of teams recognition to spot it...

It's definitely a play you use once in a blue moon, not every game..

[BroncoBuff]

Can he do flips? :D
Walter Thomas humor? :~ohyah!:

[elsid13]

Good points ... I'll tell you one thing: Nate Jackson's TD today was the same play we ran for a Scheffler TD in San Diego last year, and that play is a high-risk 99-yard pick-six waiting to happen. No need to be so cute .... it's nice to see Jay thread the needle with that dart for a TD, but who needs the risk when you're on the fawking ONE YARD LINE?

Dude that play is classic WCO play, and it bee run since Walsh and the 49ers days. In fact that was both Elway and Young favorite play and it the winning TD in AFC Champ in 97 in Pittsburgh with one difference it was FB vs TE on sprint out. That play always works in the Red Zone because QB has the opition to run or pass.

[Kaylore]

Dude that play is classic WCO play, and it bee run since Walsh and the 49ers days. In fact that was both Elway and Young favorite play and it the winning TD in AFC Champ in 97 in Pittsburgh with one difference it was FB vs TE on sprint out. That play always works in the Red Zone because QB has the opition to run or pass.

Sprint
right
option

Clark made "the catch" on that play I believe. :thumbsup:

It's amazing what people critique. Last week it was icing the kicker. This week it's one of the most classic plays in football.

[BroncoBuff]

I don't think we're talking about the same play ... I'm pretty sure it's not the infamous sprint-right-option, rather a tightly scripted narrow-windowed quick pass.

The TD to Nate today, and last year to Scheffler against Cincy - same play. There's no sprintout, and it's not a QB option (but it does go to the right ;D). And I don't think it's available to a WR, either ... somebody said Javon caught one.


But of course there are HUNDREDS of nearly-identical plays....

[elsid13]

I don't think we're talking about the same play ... it's definitely not the infamous sprint-right-option, it's a quick pass.

The TD to Nate today, and last year to Scheffler against Cincy. There's no rollout, and it's not a QB option. It's a tightly scripted throw on a rope. And I don't think it's available to a WR, either ... somebody said Javon caught one. But of course there are HUNDREDS of nearly-identical plays of course.

It is the same play, Shanahan and Dinger are running variation that has the TE not engage the defender and run to the flat. With the FB in for blocking purposes. Cutler is still learning the play and rather then hard sprinting to the corner is doing still doing looping curl out. Once he gets it down it going to become a heck of lot easier.

[BroncoBuff]

Okay, I'll watch it again ...

[Northman]

I'm surprised at you Crush ... it was a 9-point game with 1:20 to play. No ghost of a chance really.

Theres a number of things wrong with his post. Evidently some people cant see the difference between Jay Cutler and Jake Plummer which is TRULY baffling. Bottom line is, Jay is able to make a lot of plays that Jake couldnt and is a serious upgrade at that position regardless of how bad our defense is. If we are going to continue to have close games all year i would rather have someone at Quarterback that gives us a chance to win the game. If we had Jake Plummer right now we would be 0-3. But i guess some people just cant let go. The irony is the same idiots who take shots at Cutler are the same mother****ers who said we should stop bashing on Jake because he was gone yet they are the ones who keep bringing up the comparisons. Which only makes them look like fools anyway considering the experience between both Qbs is worlds apart. Pretty laughable.

[Hulamau]

The game ended on a Daniel Graham drop.

Amen Ratboy ... Cutler has little blame in this loss ... with a little help from a few others (some one on D actually tackling when they hit a guy for instance) and some better play calling at times ( although Shanny said some of those 4th down FUBARS were dude to headset breakdowns). Cutler would have won this game going away.

That INT was in 'last gasp trying to make something happen out of very little' when time was nearly gone ... had Graham caught that 4th down pass when it was still 20-14 the momentum would have been huge and I could easily see a 21-20 Houdini act again.

Just hope his ankle doest take him out of Indy or make him too immobile with their good rush.

The D lost this one not just on being in the wrong spot but mainly on letting 2 yrds gains for for 8 or 9 with sloppy tackling again and again.

[Hulamau]

I agree on all points..he barely even steps into his throws from the looks of it and he still has a lot of zip on the ball..you'd think i'd be more upset after a loss but watching this kid play and grow every game is just awesome..that throw to Graham was money..there is no excuse for dropping that ball!!

Thats what is so exciting having a guy like Cutler ... same story with Elway early on .. and for almost all of his career ... even in losses it was damn entertaining and you always had a shot.

If you look at all the new pieces in this Bronco puzzle this year .. a lot of new players, coaches and schemes you gotta like it when they figure a few things out.

[ShutDownPoster]

The whole offense impressed me. I mean they only had the ball 3 times in the whole first half!!

Cutler is going to be amazing, I said two weeks ago that Shanny better think hard about extending Marshall. If he stays healthy he will be the best WR ever to wear a Bronco uniform.

The run D is sad. I would think Shanny and Bates will be scourinmg the waiver wire. Maybe, they will bring Kenedy back.


The same should be said about Elvis - now that he's getting more playing time, he's translating his college output to the pro game.

[fontaine]

The game ended with a Cutler interception. If this had been Jake Plummer doing the throwing, the QB would be tarred and feathered on this site...

This kid is on his way to greatness, Plummer wouldn't know how to get there if someone gave him a roadmap and a free ride.


I propose a new rule. Plummer and Cutler shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence, comparatively or otherwise.

[no-pseudo-fan]

Somehow people took my believe that the Colts are going to own us to mean our team sucks and is doomed. We're not the Chiefs, who are staring down the barrel of the shotgun of mediocrity named Herm. We've found a franchise quarterback and one of the better ones to come along in a long time. The rest of the stuff is easy to build. Teams go decades without being able to find a QB. We're set for at least the next twelve years.


Jay played great all game and then threw an int after the game was out of reach and Graham dropped a pass on fourth down. Plummer would have been flailing around like an idiot all game had he played yesterday. Let it go. The better QB is here. Plummer did great things for this team, but he's gone now.

I never said that you thought that we were the Chiefs, I just threw up a little in my mouth, just that you were being a little negative. I always wait till my anger dies down to post. Our Defense played better in the 2nd Half, our offense needs to score TD when it is goal to go, and we need to stop giving teams points on turnovers. I think that we can beat the Colts, they aren't unbeatable. We need to run the ball and defend the middle of the field better to win, but it is not impossible.

[Hogan11]

He still needs to find Stokley more often than he does.

[theAPAOps5]

He still needs to find Stokley more often than he does.

Why do you say that? Its not like its Walker or nothing. Marshall is doing a damn fine job so he doesn't always have to go to Stokely. He finds him when he needs to. Stokely is amazing in the slot though so its hard to argue not getting it to him more either. That catch where he was getting interfered with had to jump over the guy and catch it falling was awesome.

After a few years people will stop doing this and just accept that Jake is gone and Cutler is our QB now...

Jake was a 10 year vet making rookie mistakes. Jay is a rookie making GASP rookie mistakes. I am with ya TJ people will eventually shut up about it.

[maven]

Speaking of Cutler & his awesomeness.

Leinart was benched and Kurt Warner brought the Cardinals back to tie the score at 23 against the Ravens.

[Circle Orange]

He'll be okay as long as everyone lets him be his OWN guy and stop the comparisons. Looking at the games yesterday (and especially with offense being up everywhere!) it seems like every young qb is going to the hall of fame in less than a year, according to pundits. Let the guys play and see how they do. He throws a good ball but lets face it, a long drought of NOT seeing downfield throws tends to make you overreact.

Don't think the ankle thing is that serious. But don't mind me, I'm crabby today. ALL my teams lost Sunday. :pfbbt:

And Madden's nonstop crotch nuzzling of Romo was sickening last night. The dang camera was on him like, 45 minutes out of 60. I hate to pop NBC's bubble, but Romo ain't exactly cute. I don't need breathless speeches everytime he steps out of the pocket and makes plays half the league does now.

[theAPAOps5]

Speaking of Cutler & his awesomeness.

Leinart was benched and Kurt Warner brought the Cardinals back to tie the score at 23 against the Ravens.

Granted that was against the Raven D. But still from the highlights I watched it was a bad bad game for the young socialite.

[Hogan11]

And Madden's nonstop crotch nuzzling of Romo was sickening last night. The dang camera was on him like, 45 minutes out of 60. I hate to pop NBC's bubble, but Romo ain't exactly cute. I don't need breathless speeches everytime he steps out of the pocket and makes plays half the league does now.

Madden is grooming him afterall, he needs someone to drool over constantly when Brett Farve finally retires. Maybe the Farve drinking game will survive on as the Romo drinking game.............you never know.

[lazarus4444]

Yes, VY and Leinart have been getting a lot of national press. In a couple of years (if not sooner) Cutler will be beyond one, if not both, of these guys.

[Garcia Bronco]

When he ducked under the pressure and delvered it to Marshall...it was pretyt frickin sweet.

[Broncomutt]

Very happy with Cutler and our receivers. Marshall definitely looks like he wants to be a superstar. The guy tries to milk every yard out of his receptions. Very happy with Cutler and the recievers.

[NYBronco]

No complaints at this point with Cutler after only 8 regular season starts. I like the way the future is looking for him and his offense.

[Rock Chalk]

The game ended with a Cutler interception. If this had been Jake Plummer doing the throwing, the QB would be tarred and feathered on this site...

Cutler gets a built in excuse of he's "learning".

The only benefit of this is that people actually will start blaming losses on the real cause instead of just pointing the QB finger.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Cutler gets a built in excuse of he's "learning".

The only benefit of this is that people actually will start blaming losses on the real cause instead of just pointing the QB finger.

But the game didnt end on that. The game was way over by the time cutler threw that pick.

[NYBronco]

The game was far from over before that pick. IF Cutler had taken them in for seven an onside kick could have set them up for the winning FG.

[Broncos123]

Cutler gives us hope everytime he goes back to throw. When Plummer was behind the centre I was afraid everytime he went back to throw. I have all the confidence in Cutler. You can tell he is going to be Great!!!

[Kaylore]

I don't think we're talking about the same play ... I'm pretty sure it's not the infamous sprint-right-option, rather a tightly scripted narrow-windowed quick pass.

The TD to Nate today, and last year to Scheffler against Cincy - same play. There's no sprintout, and it's not a QB option (but it does go to the right ;D). And I don't think it's available to a WR, either ... somebody said Javon caught one.


But of course there are HUNDREDS of nearly-identical plays....
No, that's pretty much SRO. Oh, and I'm not upset! I'm in a good mood and you're great!:)

[Sassy]

Cutler gives us hope everytime he goes back to throw. When Plummer was behind the centre I was afraid everytime he went back to throw. I have all the confidence in Cutler. You can tell he is going to be Great!!!

I like Jay and think he will be great...I see a lot of good things...but when it comes to crunch time we still aren't getting points in the red zone...we were there twice and had a shot to win...it didn't happen. Whether it's Jay, the line or the coaching...we need to get those points!

[Turf Shaman]

I like Jay and think he will be great...I see a lot of good things...but when it comes to crunch time we still aren't getting points in the red zone...we were there twice and had a shot to win...it didn't happen. Whether it's Jay, the line or the coaching...we need to get those points!

When about 80% of the calls in the red zone are runs, I think it's easy enough to put it on the coaching staff above Jay.

[Broncos123]

I like Jay and think he will be great...I see a lot of good things...but when it comes to crunch time we still aren't getting points in the red zone...we were there twice and had a shot to win...it didn't happen. Whether it's Jay, the line or the coaching...we need to get those points!

Agreed it did not happen yesterday. The two previous games he was there and drove us down the field to put us in field goal range. I see that we are not put the points on the board but I can not put that all on Cutlers shoulders. The play calling lacks.

[Sassy]

At least our O gave us opportunities considering Jax O had the ball 38 minutes compared to our 21 or whatever it was. I like that nothing seems to "faze" this kid...he just comes right back out and plays football...no matter what mistake he or others make.

Another thought...yes, this week was the Brandon Marshall Show...but I love how he was throwing to everyone last week...and NOT just the WR's...He had Stokely, Walker, Marshall, Young, Henry, Sapp, Graham all in the mix.

[lazarus4444]

Yes, spreading the ball around will make us more successful. Hopefully we don't let another team this year dominate the clock like the Jags did. Kudos to the Jags for beating us though, they earned it.

[Old Dude]

Cutler isn't the weak link on this team; in fact, he's already starting to become a threat. Despite the mistakes, he's a little ahead of schedule.

And people have to be thrilled with Marshall's progress. It's been a long while since we drafted a WR with that kind of potential. If those two stay together, they'll have reels and reels of highlights to share at the end of their careers.

But I'm still down on special teams, and absolutely depressed about the run defense. So I'm just trying to enjoy what's there to enjoy at the moment.

[elsid13]

He still needs to find Stokley more often than he does.

Sound like someone has a FF problem. ;D

[Sassy]

Sound like someone has a FF problem. ;D

Ha! Obviously, you don't know Hogan's take on playing FF football! :giggle: :rofl: ;D

[Bronx33]

Does anybody else think brandon marshall has the potential to take a game over singlehandedly? i am getting really good vibes from this guy even more so after the catch yards. I see cutler/marshall hooking up big time down the road.

[OrangeDoofus]

When about 80% of the calls in the red zone are runs, I think it's easy enough to put it on the coaching staff above Jay.
I think this is dead on. Jay's numbers passing in the red zone this season (per NFL.com) are 7-for-11, 43 yards, 3 TDs, zero INTs.

I don't get why the coaching staff doesn't trust him more for short-range scores. That over-the-shoulder toss to Jackson yesterday was picture-perfect.

[broncofan2438]

You know, the kid has great character about him, but I'm not sure about the rest of you, but when he drops back to throw the ball it can be a little nerve racking. Only because he can be so quick to make a decision. But yes, he is a badass and we will be happy

[zdoor]

The game was far from over before that pick. IF Cutler had taken them in for seven an onside kick could have set them up for the winning FG.

The game was over. The pick was thrown because Cutler had no choice but to force things deep because of the time left.

[bpc]

Anybody blaming our lack of points in the red zone on Jay has got to be joking.

Anybody saying that Cutler had a bad game yesterday is an idiot.

As for the last pick, it was a desperation throw. What happened to all those desperation throws the last few weeks? They were completed and led to game winning drives.

You take away that last drive and complete passes that should have been caught to Brandon Marshall and Daniel Graham and you have a QB who was 18-22 for roughly 250yds and a TD. Pretty damn good.

I love the people that are already trying to draw a bead on Cutler so they can be the first to say he was a bust, or he wasn't the solution.

Keep fishing, this guy is a keeper.

[OrangeDoofus]

You know, the kid has great character about him, but I'm not sure about the rest of you, but when he drops back to throw the ball it can be a little nerve racking. Only because he can be so quick to make a decision. But yes, he is a badass and we will be happy
Yeah, he's quick to make decisions... but is he getting any of them wrong?

The only mistake I remember seeing from him yesterday was the interception at the end of the game, and that was way beyond the point of desperation.

[maven]

When about 80% of the calls in the red zone are runs, I think it's easy enough to put it on the coaching staff above Jay.

The coaching staff becomes a bunch of pansies when Denver is in the red zone. J

Oh man, that 4th down QB sneak call. After the f'n timeout. argghhh

[maven]

Yeah, he's quick to make decisions... but is he getting any of them wrong?

The only mistake I remember seeing from him yesterday was the interception at the end of the game, and that was way beyond the point of desperation.

He could've hit the RB? for 5-10 yards, but instead went farther down the field and the INT. Total desperation, but the team was desperate.

Thank you defense.

[BroncoBuff]

No, that's pretty much SRO. Oh, and I'm not upset! I'm in a good mood and you're great!:)
YOU'RE in a good mood, fine...

But I'm still harboring a deep, D E E P resentment over your haughty dismissal of my concusion/helmet rantings ... (your snub only magnified my ranting - YOU'RE to blame! I used BYU QB Max Hall as my example, fer hevvvinsake Uhh)

People listen to you around here, dude - don't ask me why, but they do ;D

[UboBronco]

Yeah, he's quick to make decisions... but is he getting any of them wrong?

The only mistake I remember seeing from him yesterday was the interception at the end of the game, and that was way beyond the point of desperation.

I was yelling for Cutler to run for the first down, I believe he had a clear path, yet I was not aware of his ankle injury, which I think made him not attempt the run...

Marshall is a beast... I wish the Shanny offense would hit recievers in stride... But Marshall still makes the first defender miss.. We have not seen that in ages..

The two of them will both end up in the HOF. (OKAY, I am hoping at least)

[kmartin575]

The whole offense impressed me. I mean they only had the ball 3 times in the whole first half!!

Cutler is going to be amazing, I said two weeks ago that Shanny better think hard about extending Marshall. If he stays healthy he will be the best WR ever to wear a Bronco uniform.

The run D is sad. I would think Shanny and Bates will be scourinmg the waiver wire. Maybe, they will bring Kenedy back.


Won't be as good as Dwayne Bowe.

[DukeWoody]

Won't be as good as Dwayne Bowe.


You are one dumb mother f-cker homer p-ssy b-tch...

[Sassy]

Won't be as good as Dwayne Bowe.

You have got to be kidding...

[BroncoBuff]

Won't be as good as Dwayne Bowe.
At what? Cause at playing wide receiver in the NFL, Dwayne will not come close. Atlas is right, he is on track to be the best Bronco WR ever.

[theAPAOps5]

Won't be as good as Dwayne Bowe.

Your right he won't be as good as Dwayne Bowe. He is going to be on a level 3 times higher than him. Pathetic for you guys. Draft a 1st round WR and we find a future super star in the 4th. Par for the course for the sister ****ing KC fan base.

[BroncoBuff]

Anybody blaming our lack of points in the red zone on Jay has got to be joking.

Anybody saying that Cutler had a bad game yesterday is an idiot.
Agreed ... even on these hyperbollically-homer pages of the OrangeMane, overrating Cutler (and Marshall for that matter) is virtually impossible ... History will prove them to be THE TOP TWO offensive players drafted in 2006.

[TheDave]

Won't be as good as Dwayne Bowe.

Dwayne Bowe 10 for 135 yards

Brandon Marshall 17 for 267 yards

Advantage: Marshall :thumbs:

[Sassy]

Marshall had what 7/126 yards in one drive!

[DukeWoody]

Your right he won't be as good as Dwayne Bowe. He is going to be on a level 3 times higher than him. Pathetic for you guys. Draft a 1st round WR and we find a future super star in the 3rd. Par for the course for the sister ****ing KC fan base.



Actually, it was an even better robbery, we scored the STUD on the second day 23rd pick of the 4th round...:thumbs:

[SoCalBronco]

Dwayne Bowe 10 for 135 yards

Brandon Marshall 17 for 267 yards

Advantage: Marshall :thumbs:

Unfortunately, it is past 8:30 pm, so kmartin is unable to provide a rebuttal.

Winner: kmartin's mom

[TheDave]

Unfortunately, it is past 8:30 pm, so kmartin is unable to provide a rebuttal.

Winner: kmartin's mom

I'll make sure and bump this at recess time tomorrow... ROFL!

[theAPAOps5]

Actually, it was an even better robbery, we scored the STUD on the second day 23rd pick of the 4th round...:thumbs:

You sir are correct. And bump as the brat should be waking up from nappy time.