Broncos' Young making big impact in first year

[dragondawg]

Broncos' Young making big impact in first year
By FRANK SCHWAB
THE GAZETTE

ENGLEWOOD - Running back Selvin Young was signed by the Denver Broncos as an undrafted rookie and was fifth on the depth chart most of the summer, but he wasn’t going to be a wallflower.

Young was pro-active in learning the offense and his assignments. He was ready when given a chance this preseason and worked his way to second on the depth chart at tailback.

Many rookies have trouble understanding defenses, especially in pass protection, but the Broncos don’t have any limitations on Young.

“He’s very mature; I’d say he looks like a third- or fourth-year guy,” coach Mike Shanahan said. “When he comes off the field and you ask him a question, he answers. It’s kind of unusual for a young guy coming into the National Football League with all the different defensive fronts and blitzes you see, he doesn’t make very many mistakes.”

Young had a big play against Oakland, breaking a 40-yard run on a third down. He said he has been able to contribute because he is ready mentally.

“I want to be the first one to do everything right and the last one you have to continually try to teach,” Young said.

This week, Shanahan said he thought Young would be a starting tailback in the NFL some day. Young was flattered to hear that praise.

“It makes me feel I’ve got my head in the right place,” Young said.

Injury report
Outside linebacker Ian Gold, who missed practice Thursday with a sprained ankle, returned Friday and was listed as probable on the injury report.

“He practiced a full practice and unless there’s a setback he should be able to go,” Shanahan said.

Cornerback Domonique Foxworth (ankle) and tight end Stephen Alexander (calf) were listed as questionable. Safety Hamza Abdullah (hip), guard Ben Hamilton (concussion) and tackle Ryan Harris (back) are out.

For the Jaguars, defensive tackle John Henderson is listed as doubtful because of a concussion.

Odds and ends
The Broncos’ coaching staff pledged $25,000 to the Darrent Williams Memorial Teen Center on Friday. The center has raised its entire target goal of $415,000 and is scheduled to open in February 2008.

http://www.gazette.com/sports/young_27558___article.html/broncos_shanahan.html

[TheChamp24]

I really like Young, he's been really impressive. He does need to work on catching those passes down the field though.

[Orange_Beard]

Big impact?
<table id="result" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="darkerRow"><td class="ra"> CAR </td> <td class="ca">5</td> <td class="ra"> YDS </td> <td class="ca">50</td></tr></tbody></table>Looks good, not what i will call big.

[Sassy]

The Broncos’ coaching staff pledged $25,000 to the Darrent Williams Memorial Teen Center on Friday. The center has raised its entire target goal of $415,000 and is scheduled to open in February 2008.

Very nice!

[Eli_Cash]

Random thought

Why do we keep lining him up outside and throwing fade passes down the sideline to him?

Raiders 1st quarter
<TABLE class=borderCollapse><TBODY><TR><TD class=downInfo>2-4-OAK 48 </TD><TD class=downText>(10:58) 6-J.Cutler pass incomplete deep right to 35-S.Young (52-K.Morrison). </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Raiders OT
<TABLE class=borderCollapse><TBODY><TR><TD class=downInfo>3-2-DEN 28 </TD><TD class=downText>(13:39) (Shotgun) 6-J.Cutler pass incomplete deep left to 35-S.Young (53-T.Howard). </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

The last one was a bit much for the situation.
Maybe it was the best read or where the matchups took us but It was 3rd and 2.
Run the ball Shanny.

On the flip side, don't run so much in the red zone...

[TheChamp24]

Random thought

Why do we keep lining him up outside and throwing fade passes down the sideline to him?

Raiders 1st quarter
<TABLE class=borderCollapse><TBODY><TR><TD class=downInfo>2-4-OAK 48 </TD><TD class=downText>(10:58) 6-J.Cutler pass incomplete deep right to 35-S.Young (52-K.Morrison). </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Raiders OT
<TABLE class=borderCollapse><TBODY><TR><TD class=downInfo>3-2-DEN 28 </TD><TD class=downText>(13:39) (Shotgun) 6-J.Cutler pass incomplete deep left to 35-S.Young (53-T.Howard). </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

The last one was a bit much for the situation.
Maybe it was the best read or where the matchups took us but It was 3rd and 2.
Run the ball Shanny.

On the flip side, don't run so much in the red zone...

That 3rd and 2 play, that should've been a 30 yard completion, but it went right through Selvin's arms. I can see why we line him up out there, he gets a good step on a LB and if he catches that, we have 1st and 10 at the Raiders 35ish yard line.
he's a mismatch, and could be a potential Brian Westbrook.

[bap454]

Stephen Alexander..... I thought he was cut for Mustard.?

[Paladin]

Stephen Alexander..... I thought he was cut for Mustard.?

Actually, it's pretty confusing right now......

[Drek]

Big impact?
<table id="result" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="darkerRow"><td class="ra"> CAR </td> <td class="ca">5</td> <td class="ra"> YDS </td> <td class="ca">50</td></tr></tbody></table>Looks good, not what i will call big.

I'd consider 5/50 a big impact when it comes behind a workhorse who gets you over 100 yards on 20+ carries.

The Young has gotten us significant yardage without a lot of touches, thats significant because it shows the big play factor is there and having a big play back is a critical part to winning over the course of 16 regular season games. See the '05 team with Tatum Bell as the #2, he got less carries than Anderson but he gave us a lot more game winning plays. Sure he couldn't handle the full 20+ carry workload last year, but in '05 he was an invaluable part of a team that made it to the AFCC.

In today's NFL you need both a workhorse and a gamebreaker. Henry is the workhorse, and he's got the skills to occasionally break off a game breaking run because he's a really special back, but having Young as well ads an extra dimension that makes our running game even more ferocious. Its a lot bigger impact than having a pounder like Anderson or Sapp back there would give us. Teams don't fear those guys. They fear Young because if they lose containment on him he could take it to the house and change the game.

Young needs to develop as a receiver, but mostly just in terms of hands. The route running is already pretty solid. His pass protection is way better than any 2nd back we've had in a long time too. The coaching staff made a ballsy move to go with him over Mike Bell and Cecil Sapp, two veterans with regular season experience, but its paying off because he's simply doing things those two guys aren't capable of.

[maher_tyler]

I'd consider 5/50 a big impact when it comes behind a workhorse who gets you over 100 yards on 20+ carries.

The Young has gotten us significant yardage without a lot of touches, thats significant because it shows the big play factor is there and having a big play back is a critical part to winning over the course of 16 regular season games. See the '05 team with Tatum Bell as the #2, he got less carries than Anderson but he gave us a lot more game winning plays. Sure he couldn't handle the full 20+ carry workload last year, but in '05 he was an invaluable part of a team that made it to the AFCC.

In today's NFL you need both a workhorse and a gamebreaker. Henry is the workhorse, and he's got the skills to occasionally break off a game breaking run because he's a really special back, but having Young as well ads an extra dimension that makes our running game even more ferocious. Its a lot bigger impact than having a pounder like Anderson or Sapp back there would give us. Teams don't fear those guys. They fear Young because if they lose containment on him he could take it to the house and change the game.

Young needs to develop as a receiver, but mostly just in terms of hands. The route running is already pretty solid. His pass protection is way better than any 2nd back we've had in a long time too. The coaching staff made a ballsy move to go with him over Mike Bell and Cecil Sapp, two veterans with regular season experience, but its paying off because he's simply doing things those two guys aren't capable of.

Good post...

[fontaine]

Well, he'll be facing a true test this weekend when the team is going to pound the football with Henderson not playing and their secondary weak in run support.

He'll get plenty of touches and we'll see what he's made out of.

[Rock Chalk]

I really like Young, he's been really impressive. He does need to work on catching those passes down the field though.

Help if Cutler threw them better. The one against the Raiders was slightly underthrown and Young had to slow up and wait for it after he had his man beat which caused his man to recover and make a good play on it.

OH wait, Cutler doesnt make mistakes. My bad.

[Drek]

Help if Cutler threw them better. The one against the Raiders was slightly underthrown and Young had to slow up and wait for it after he had his man beat which caused his man to recover and make a good play on it.

OH wait, Cutler doesnt make mistakes. My bad.

No, his mistakes are just so electrifying that it doesn't matter. Even last year when he threw that pick Tapp returned for six he was just showing his passion for the game and never give up mentality. So impressive.

:~ohyah!:

[NYBronco]

Cutler and Young need more practice and game time experience to work out each others expectations and limitations. Not a unique situation between players either on offense or defense.

[ØrangeÇrush]

Random thought


Why do we keep lining him up outside and throwing fade passes down the sideline to him?

Raiders 1st quarter
<TABLE class=borderCollapse><TBODY><TR><TD class=downInfo>2-4-OAK 48 </TD><TD class=downText>(10:58) 6-J.Cutler pass incomplete deep right to 35-S.Young (52-K.Morrison). </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Raiders OT
<TABLE class=borderCollapse><TBODY><TR><TD class=downInfo>3-2-DEN 28 </TD><TD class=downText>(13:39) (Shotgun) 6-J.Cutler pass incomplete deep left to 35-S.Young (53-T.Howard). </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

The last one was a bit much for the situation.
Maybe it was the best read or where the matchups took us but It was 3rd and 2.
Run the ball Shanny.

On the flip side, don't run so much in the red zone...


Its a matchup problem, if he lines out wide, he most likely gets single coverage by a linebacker. Thats as good as a one on one matchup as your going to see.

[Odysseus]

That 3rd and 2 play, that should've been a 30 yard completion, but it went right through Selvin's arms. I can see why we line him up out there, he gets a good step on a LB and if he catches that, we have 1st and 10 at the Raiders 35ish yard line.
he's a mismatch, and could be a potential Brian Westbrook.

That explains why he doesn't do kick return or punt return. GIve that guy a year on the jugs machine. If he learns how to catch he'll be a lethal part of the offense.

[ØrangeÇrush]

He needs to stay late and have patrick ramsey throw him passes till he gets it.

[Odysseus]

No, his mistakes are just so electrifying that it doesn't matter. Even last year when he threw that pick Tapp returned for six he was just showing his passion for the game and never give up mentality. So impressive.

:~ohyah!:

Exactly. You can't explain that in clear terms. You either get that or you don't. Cutler is just getting warmed up. Each week he's getting a little bit smarter. It's really exciting watching this kid.

Elway in his 16th year still had the ability to amaze you with something you didn't expect or didn't see coming. To compare this puppy to Elway is retarded. Does this kid have what it takes to continually grow and expand? I think that is what makes him so intriguing.

Cutler makes a LOT of mistakes but he's better than Griese, Bubby, Gus, Miller, and whose that guy who ended up playing safety? Van Pelt? Beiurlein? Come on! This guy screws up it's fun. Go Jay Go!

[Popps]

Random thought

Why do we keep lining him up outside and throwing fade passes down the sideline to him?

Shanahan clearly saw something on tape, or in practice that made him assume that play was a great idea. I'd guess (with hindsight) that he won't call that one as much this weekend.

Young has been a nice surprise, though if you watch the tape from Sunday... Mike Bell had a great game, and in particular... a great last series. He made crucial blocks and runs on our FG drive.

Nice to have both of them.

[Orange_Beard]

I'd consider 5/50 a big impact when it comes behind a workhorse who gets you over 100 yards on 20+ carries.

The Young has gotten us significant yardage without a lot of touches, thats significant because it shows the big play factor is there and having a big play back is a critical part to winning over the course of 16 regular season games. See the '05 team with Tatum Bell as the #2, he got less carries than Anderson but he gave us a lot more game winning plays. Sure he couldn't handle the full 20+ carry workload last year, but in '05 he was an invaluable part of a team that made it to the AFCC.

In today's NFL you need both a workhorse and a gamebreaker. Henry is the workhorse, and he's got the skills to occasionally break off a game breaking run because he's a really special back, but having Young as well ads an extra dimension that makes our running game even more ferocious. Its a lot bigger impact than having a pounder like Anderson or Sapp back there would give us. Teams don't fear those guys. They fear Young because if they lose containment on him he could take it to the house and change the game.

Young needs to develop as a receiver, but mostly just in terms of hands. The route running is already pretty solid. His pass protection is way better than any 2nd back we've had in a long time too. The coaching staff made a ballsy move to go with him over Mike Bell and Cecil Sapp, two veterans with regular season experience, but its paying off because he's simply doing things those two guys aren't capable of.

This guy has had 5 carries and you are calling him a game breaker? It's a little early for that.
He did drop a ball he should have caught against the Bills.
The only BIG IMPACT play he has made was swatting the ball out of bounds against the bills. The 40 yard run was nice. It did not change the game.

[Northman]

I'd consider 5/50 a big impact when it comes behind a workhorse who gets you over 100 yards on 20+ carries.

The Young has gotten us significant yardage without a lot of touches, thats significant because it shows the big play factor is there and having a big play back is a critical part to winning over the course of 16 regular season games. See the '05 team with Tatum Bell as the #2, he got less carries than Anderson but he gave us a lot more game winning plays. Sure he couldn't handle the full 20+ carry workload last year, but in '05 he was an invaluable part of a team that made it to the AFCC.

In today's NFL you need both a workhorse and a gamebreaker. Henry is the workhorse, and he's got the skills to occasionally break off a game breaking run because he's a really special back, but having Young as well ads an extra dimension that makes our running game even more ferocious. Its a lot bigger impact than having a pounder like Anderson or Sapp back there would give us. Teams don't fear those guys. They fear Young because if they lose containment on him he could take it to the house and change the game.

Young needs to develop as a receiver, but mostly just in terms of hands. The route running is already pretty solid. His pass protection is way better than any 2nd back we've had in a long time too. The coaching staff made a ballsy move to go with him over Mike Bell and Cecil Sapp, two veterans with regular season experience, but its paying off because he's simply doing things those two guys aren't capable of.

Exactly.

[Northman]

Help if Cutler threw them better. The one against the Raiders was slightly underthrown and Young had to slow up and wait for it after he had his man beat which caused his man to recover and make a good play on it.

OH wait, Cutler doesnt make mistakes. My bad.


He makes mistakes and no one has ever denied that. But i would rather have a young Qb who is learning yet make those than a 10 year vet. And its great to know that our coaching staff recognizes that even though some fans dont.

[theAPAOps5]

Help if Cutler threw them better. The one against the Raiders was slightly underthrown and Young had to slow up and wait for it after he had his man beat which caused his man to recover and make a good play on it.

OH wait, Cutler doesnt make mistakes. My bad.

No Alec, he makes mistakes......... Just not as many as Vince Young!
















:poke: :ouwknow: :kiss:

[Paladin]

VY is a mistake waiting to happen most of the time.

I do not think S. Young has made that big of an impact to this point. One run does not make an MVP. And neither does a couple of passes.

I do think he has some good instincts, seems to like the cut and run style, and does seem to run with panache, verve and elan. But he is also a real raw rookie. To be honest, I don't think he has been as good s Bell was last year after two, but that is an opinion that can be argued, obviously.

In any case, barring injury, I don't expect to see a hella lot of Young because Sapp is the first backup. Argue that all you want, but Shanahan and Bobby Turner make that call. Right now, I'll go with Bobby Turner's judgment because I have not seen enough of Young to make a different argument....

[TheChamp24]

Help if Cutler threw them better. The one against the Raiders was slightly underthrown and Young had to slow up and wait for it after he had his man beat which caused his man to recover and make a good play on it.

OH wait, Cutler doesnt make mistakes. My bad.

You can't expect every pass to be spot on accurate, especially passes 30 yards down the field. FACT: Selvin should've caught that ball. Cutler threw it to a spot where Selvin had the opportunity to make the catch, yet he didn't.
Yes, Cutler also made the mistake of underthrowing.
But once again, if it hits you in the arms/hands, you need to catch the ball.

[Atlas]

Big impact?
<table id="result" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="darkerRow"><td class="ra"> CAR </td> <td class="ca">5</td> <td class="ra"> YDS </td> <td class="ca">50</td></tr></tbody></table>Looks good, not what i will call big.

Big things to come maybe?

[Bronx33]

Alec being a bitch on yet another thread?

[Kaylore]

Alec being a b**** on yet another thread?

He's still pissed about Plummer and it's compounded by his affection for Vince Young. One of the funniest things to do is go back and read Alec's posts of VY in games last year where he had multiple fumbles and interceptions but ended up winning at the end. Compare them to his posts on Cutler who had similar games. Both young QB's make mistake, and yet we still win, but suddenly what was good enough for Vince Young isn't good enough for Cutler.

That, and Alec doesn't like Cutler because everyone else does. Alec disdains things that are popular on principle. Always has to appear the "rebel" around here.

[DarkHorse30]

That, and Alec doesn't like Cutler because everyone else does. Alec disdains things that are popular on principle. Always has to appear the "rebel" around here.



....that's why they call it "dope". Because it makes you one.

[Paladin]

Well, he has been "ill" lately......

[Kaylore]

Well, he has been "ill" lately......

What a trooper. He was even trying to edit with pneumonia. We love our little swear machine around here.

Back on topic, Young should have caught that pass. It was a pretty good throw for a second string running back. You have to wonder how many times they even get to practice that route with each other. Young is impressing and it time (next year?) he could really be a force for us. It's amazing how many players of starter-caliber ability we have on this team under the age of 27.

[Requiem]

I've been pleasantly surprised with Young, but I don't think he's a "quality" player. With Henry, Young and Bell (even though he's at football) I really like the kind of backfield we have going here. Young's still old balls for a rookie (24) but it's nice that he's contributing. Kind of makes me feel better about having more second day selections this year because it just proves that if the guy works hard and has "it" he can make the team.

[Garcia Bronco]

If by impact you mean dropping passes and fumbling the ball...it is huge.

[wabbit]

If by impact you mean dropping passes and fumbling the ball...it is huge.


Wow...a rookie with a half dozen touches trying to eek out another couple of yards is stripped of the ball from the front & back by two players and he's already a failed wannabe.

Terrible scouting, those Broncos scouts...can't even land a franchise back for free...what's this world coming to.

[cutthemdown]

I'll say his fumble today vs Jags had quite an impact. Great play rook!!!!

[GoBroncos0838]

I really feel bad for Young... he had a tough game, but he showed tremendous promise... He will be a bright spot in our future. I just hope this game doesn't make Travis light a blunt... then we will really need this kid to come through!

[SonOfLe-loLang]

I really feel bad for Young... he had a tough game, but he showed tremendous promise... He will be a bright spot in our future. I just hope this game doesn't make Travis light a blunt... then we will really need this kid to come through!

I feel really bad for him too. I think my sorrow will continue while i go to my crap job tomorrow while he still plays football for a living. Oh wait, right...

[Orange_Beard]

I am just watching last weeks game for the first time. That was a HUGE fumble by Young.
Why is he escaping the bashing around here. ****ing fumbling rookie.

[Sassy]

I am just watching last weeks game for the first time. That was a HUGE fumble by Young.
Why is he escaping the bashing around here. ****ing fumbling rookie.

Someone who used to wear #30 did that every once in awhile too...How soon we forget.
(and how about Jay's lateral he knocked out...if it wasn't for that we lose that game.)

[Garcia Bronco]

Wow...a rookie with a half dozen touches trying to eek out another couple of yards is stripped of the ball from the front & back by two players and he's already a failed wannabe.

Terrible scouting, those Broncos scouts...can't even land a franchise back for free...what's this world coming to.

LOL...yeah...I guess you are right. Perhaps my exoectations are too high for him.

[pootz22]

As I have said in another thread, I think that Young is going to be used against the colts like Q was a couple years ago. I could be wrong but we may have a different opinion of him if I am right.

[Orange_Beard]

Someone who used to wear #30 did that every once in awhile too...How soon we forget.
(and how about Jay's lateral he knocked out...if it wasn't for that we lose that game.)

Please, comparing this guy to T.D. at this point is silly.

Previous Broncos teams have lost games, Does that mean it is OK to lose games?
And previous sports writers have written dumb articles. Heck previous posters have made dumb posts.

If you look at the article and read the thread, all I am saying is that it is a little early to call youngs impact big. That play against the Bills was a good play, smart choice. That fumble against the Jags was a bad play.

I get sick of how rookies and young players are hyped up before they ever do anything. Until young makes a big impact, let's keep the hype machine set on low.

[DarkHorse]

Broncos' Young making big impact in first year


Yeah, so did Mike Bell - all year long.

[wabbit]

Please, comparing this guy to T.D. at this point is silly.

Previous Broncos teams have lost games, Does that mean it is OK to lose games?
And previous sports writers have written dumb articles. Heck previous posters have made dumb posts.

If you look at the article and read the thread, all I am saying is that it is a little early to call youngs impact big. That play against the Bills was a good play, smart choice. That fumble against the Jags was a bad play.

I get sick of how rookies and young players are hyped up before they ever do anything. Until young makes a big impact, let's keep the hype machine set on low.

If a RB gets 100+ touches in a season, he will make a fairly sizeable impact.

The way the coaches...specifically Bobby Turner gush about Young, he will get those hundred touches...if he fumbles again, then that won't happen, but the team has big plans for him nonetheless.

Dumb or not, Young has skills we haven't seen here since Davis..gap vision, game speed & amazing cut backs that have the coaching staff excited.

But you're right, that has to translate to real performance before any honest comparisons can take place.

I believe it will, that's all.

[DarkHorse]

Isn't he like seriously injury prone tho? I thought he missed quite a bit of time in college.

[wabbit]

Isn't he like seriously injury prone tho? I thought he missed quite a bit of time in college.

Funny isn't it?? That was the same rap on Terrell Davis at Georgia...well, that and the claim he had no speed, no moves and he fumbled, but "he can catch a little" said the scouting report.

Look, it is all wishful thinking until it translates to production on the field, but the potential is there for Young.

I'm betting we'll all get a chance to see it develop this season.

[Bronx33]

Funny isn't it?? That was the same rap on Terrell Davis at Georgia...well, that and the claim he had no speed, no moves and he fumbled, but "he can catch a little" said the scouting report.

Look, it is all wishful thinking until it translates to production on the field, but the potential is there for Young.

I'm betting we'll all get a chance to see it develop this season.


Shanahan brought the best out of terrell hopefully he can do the same wiith SY.

[Orange_Beard]

If a RB gets 100+ touches in a season, he will make a fairly sizeable impact.

The way the coaches...specifically Bobby Turner gush about Young, he will get those hundred touches...if he fumbles again, then that won't happen, but the team has big plans for him nonetheless.

Dumb or not, Young has skills we haven't seen here since Davis..gap vision, game speed & amazing cut backs that have the coaching staff excited.

But you're right, that has to translate to real performance before any honest comparisons can take place.

I believe it will, that's all.

If, if, if.....is not a big impact

[Sassy]

Please, comparing this guy to T.D. at this point is silly.

Previous Broncos teams have lost games, Does that mean it is OK to lose games?
And previous sports writers have written dumb articles. Heck previous posters have made dumb posts.

If you look at the article and read the thread, all I am saying is that it is a little early to call youngs impact big. That play against the Bills was a good play, smart choice. That fumble against the Jags was a bad play.

I get sick of how rookies and young players are hyped up before they ever do anything. Until young makes a big impact, let's keep the hype machine set on low.

Not comparing him to TD...just saying that TD had a few fumbles in his career in big games...and that Selvin will do the same.

[Broncos_OTM]

I've been pleasantly surprised with Young, but I don't think he's a "quality" player. With Henry, Young and Bell (even though he's at football) I really like the kind of backfield we have going here. Young's still old balls for a rookie (24) but it's nice that he's contributing. Kind of makes me feel better about having more second day selections this year because it just proves that if the guy works hard and has "it" he can make the team.

Sorry dream you had the chance to get on the selvin train you opted out. back to hyping Amir Pinnix for you.

[Orange_Beard]

Not comparing him to TD...just saying that TD had a few fumbles in his career in big games...and that Selvin will do the same.

DEF: A comparison is an evaluation of similarities and differences.

sounds like a comparison.

[Sassy]

I am comparing the "fumbling" issue.

[Orange_Beard]

I am watching the second half of the Jax game.
Funny to young players Hixon and Young both had really bad fumbles. Hixon seems to be getting hammed and young seems to be flying under the radar.

[Orange_Beard]

I am comparing the "fumbling" issue.

When you invoke the name of the Almighty name of TD, you are comparing there careers.
What you are saying is, TD did it so it is ok. I don't agree.

[Sassy]

When you invoke the name of the Almighty name of TD, you are comparing there careers.
What you are saying is, TD did it so it is ok. I don't agree.

Nope. I'm just saying even the GOOD RB's fumble in critical situations whether it's TD or someone else. We don't know if Selvin is going to be good or not...but Shanahan must think something of him to give him that chance to prove himself. I just don't think he needs to be ragged on yet...for having a fumble in a critical situation is all.

[Orange_Beard]

Nope. I'm just saying even the GOOD RB's fumble in critical situations whether it's TD or someone else. We don't know if Selvin is going to be good or not...but Shanahan must think something of him to give him that chance to prove himself. I just don't think he needs to be ragged on yet...for having a fumble in a critical situation is all.

First of all TD was not a GOOD running back. He was a GREAT running back.

If you would have said something like "even good running backs fumble" I would have to agree with you. They do, it's part of the game.
I feel the need to reference "the Fumble", that lead to "the drive"

I am not really trying to "rag" on Young. I am more saying, let they guy prove himself instead of hyping him up. If you are going to talk about the play against the Bills, talk about the fumble.

Hixon is a guy who was really hyped up around here and by the Broncos. He fumbles in the game and people want him gone. IMHO Youngs fumble against the JAX had a bigger impact on the game then Hixon's. It stopped a drive that was rolling and if not for a boneheaded coaching move would have lead to a TD.

[Sassy]

If you would have said something like "even good running backs fumble" I would have to agree with you. They do, it's part of the game.
This is EXACTLY what I'm saying...

...and Yes, TD WAS A GREAT BACK! I don't think we're arguing here...you just aren't quite getting my point.

[Orange_Beard]

If you would have said something like "even good running backs fumble" I would have to agree with you. They do, it's part of the game.
This is EXACTLY what I'm saying...

...and Yes, TD WAS A GREAT BACK! I don't think we're arguing here...you just aren't quite getting my point.

Would did not say "even good running backs fumble", you said, "Someone who used to wear #30 did that every once in awhile too...How soon we forget."

You are saying TD did it so give the guy a break.

There are plenty of other backs who did "it" and they are not here anymore ie. Portis and Mike Anderson. Once you invoke TD's name you are comparing him to TD.

It may be splitting hairs, but to me it is one worth splitting.

[Sassy]

TAKE TD out of it.

EVERY GOOD to GREAT back fumbles in a critical situation. My point being, for those of you picking on Selvin's fumble...is that being a rookie...you should give him a break.

[sixtimeseight]

So Selvin Young is a good to great RB?


No.

[Orange_Beard]

TAKE TD out of it.

EVERY GOOD to GREAT back fumbles in a critical situation. My point being, for those of you picking on Selvin's fumble...is that being a rookie...you should give him a break.

YOU PUT TD IN!!!!!!!! That is my point exactly.
Well not exactly my point. My point is take all his play into consideration. Don't hype the guy, let him play.

[Orange_Beard]

So Selvin Young is a good to great RB?


No.

I think you are going to need to edit this post in the future.

[LonghornBronco]

Get some son!

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[Requiem]

Sorry dream you had the chance to get on the selvin train you opted out. back to hyping Amir Pinnix for you.

There's plenty of other backs I can pimp too. I'm just not going to get a hard on over a undrafted rookie free agent who is already older than most two year veterans in the league.