Things are heating up...again. Connect the dots.

[Smiling Assassin27]

1) Reports that Saddam moved his WMD to Syria

"David Kay, the former head of the coalition's hunt for Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, yesterday claimed that part of Saddam Hussein's secret weapons programme was hidden in Syria."

2) Syria may be getting nuclear material from North Korea:

"September 18, 2007 (RFE/RL) -- North Korea has denied allegations that it may be helping Syria to develop a nuclear-weapons facility. North Korea's Foreign Ministry said in a statement that suspicions raised by Washington and U.S. media reports are part of an "unskillful conspiracy."

The first reports that North Korea may be helping Syria develop a nuclear-weapons program surfaced last week in "The New York Times" and the "The Washington Post.""

3)The Israelis launch an airstrike inside Syria"

"WASHINGTON, Sept. 11 — After days of silence from the Israeli government, American officials confirmed Tuesday that Israeli warplanes launched airstrikes inside Syria last week, the first such attack since 2003.

A Defense Department official said Israeli jets had struck at least one target in northeastern Syria last Thursday, but the official said it was still unclear exactly what the jets hit and the extent of the bombing damage."

The target was supposedly weapons caches destined for Hezbollah, however:

"One Bush administration official said Israel had recently carried out reconnaissance flights over Syria, taking pictures of possible nuclear installations that Israeli officials believed might have been supplied with material from North Korea. The administration official said Israeli officials believed that North Korea might be unloading some of its nuclear material on Syria."

4) Then today:

"Proof of cooperation between Iran and Syria in the proliferation and development of weapons of mass destruction was brought to light Monday in a Jane's Defence Weekly report that dozens of Iranian engineers and 15 Syrian officers were killed in a July 23 accident in Syria.

According to the report, cited by Channel 10, the joint Syrian-Iranian team was attempting to mount a chemical warhead on a Scud missile when the explosion occurred, spreading lethal chemical agents, including sarin nerve gas.

Those dots don't make a pretty picture.

[Rohirrim]

I like the missile exploding part. ;D

[Crushaholic]

I remember Mock being laughed out of the WRP forum a couple years ago for even SUGGESTING that the WMDs were hidden in Syria. I'll always maintain that Saddam had the intention of harming Americans, whether he had anything to do with 9/11 or not...

[TheDave]

1) Reports that Saddam moved his WMD to Syria

"David Kay, the former head of the coalition's hunt for Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, yesterday claimed that part of Saddam Hussein's secret weapons programme was hidden in Syria."



Wasn't mock telling us this in '03?

[alkemical]

yes, there were winnebago's of death!

http://www.unfairlybalanced.com/archive/slides/Winnebagos_of_Death.jpg

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I remember Mock being laughed out of the WRP forum a couple years ago for even SUGGESTING that the WMDs were hidden in Syria. I'll always maintain that Saddam had the intention of harming Americans, whether he had anything to do with 9/11 or not...Or not?
Wasn't mock telling us this in '03? He even provided pictures of the trucks they used, tracks in the sand and the hidden bunkers....:rofl:

[Crushaholic]

Or not?

Yes, I'm leaving open the possibility that Saddam didn't know of the particular plan. However, he certainly had the MOTIVE to help plan an attack on America...

[gunns]

I think the point is that the WMD were not in Iraq. But we are! We're so busy with Bush's agenda we don't know what the hell is going on.

[Crushaholic]

I think the point is that the WMD were not in Iraq. But we are! We're so busy with Bush's agenda we don't know what the hell is going on.

If Saddam hid them in Syria, the famous "faulty intelligence" could still be correct. That would vindicate Bush in his decision to go to Iraq.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Yes, I'm leaving open the possibility that Saddam didn't know of the particular plan. However, he certainly had the MOTIVE to help plan an attack on America...
If Saddam hid them in Syria, the famous "faulty intelligence" could still be correct. That would vindicate Bush in his decision to go to Iraq.

Geeeezus! There are still people swallowing the Bush/Neocon BS for invading Iraq.

[Bronco Bob]

Are these dopes still pushing the idea that Saddam would have given his
most lethal weapons to a country that went to war against him in 1990?

[Rigs11]

Too funny. the same yahoos that keep pushing these "what if's" on imaginary WMD's are the same ones that believe that there is no possibility that dubya and his cronies had a hand in the 911 attacks.ROFL!

[ak1971]

Wasn't mock telling us this in '03?

and now mock is stricken with a mysterious sickness...hmmm Gafney please write us a report.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

However, he certainly had the MOTIVE to help plan an attack on America...

So you support a doctrine that says we should invade every country that might have a "motive?"

Guess you better start writing to your reps and asking for a reinstatement of the draft a.s.a.p. :D

[Garcia Bronco]

I remember Mock being laughed out of the WRP forum a couple years ago for even SUGGESTING that the WMDs were hidden in Syria. I'll always maintain that Saddam had the intention of harming Americans, whether he had anything to do with 9/11 or not...

Exactly

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

He even provided pictures of the trucks they used, tracks in the sand and the hidden bunkers....:rofl:

:giggle:

[Garcia Bronco]

So you support a doctrine that says we should invade every country that might have a "motive?"

Guess you better start writing to your reps and asking for a reinstatement of the draft a.s.a.p. :D

They didn't "might" have a motive. They had a motive. We are the driving force for giving them the business with UN Resolutions for over a decade. That's a motive.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

They didn't "might" have a motive. They had a motive. We are the driving force for giving them the business with UN Resolutions for over a decade. That's a motive.

Then go ahead and remove the word "might" from my question.

Are you really advocating that we invade any country that has a "motive" for doing us harm?

That's like saying "I know my neighbor hates me because my dog has been pissing on his geraniums - I think I'll see if I can have him arrested for assault or murder, because I'm sure he'd like to kick my ass or even kill me."

[Garcia Bronco]

Are you really advocating that we invade any country that has a "motive" for doing us harm?



Depends on the situation. Sometimes it is proper to bring the olive branch and other times it's proper to bring the sword. After ten years of violating UN resolutions and agreements and doing under the table deals with member UN nations I feel it's justified in the case of Iraq. The way in which it has been handled is below average and damn near rock bottom.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Sometimes it is proper to bring the olive branch and other times it's proper to bring the sword.

The "leaders" you've been backing have demonstrated that they don't know how to handle either olive branches or swords.

They attacked a country that was not a threat to us, did not attack us, etc., and allowed people who were responsible for planning and carrying out an attack against us to go free.

[Spider]

just so I understand ..Saddam sent WMD to a country that hates his guts , to hide them from us .......... this is the same Syria that sent troops with us in 91 to fight Saddam out of Kuwait ......
some of you ****ers live in a soap opera reality and need to be Tazered

[ant1999e]

Geeeezus! There are still people swallowing the Bush/Neocon BS for invading Iraq.

And Gore really won the election.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

just so I understand ..Saddam sent WMD to a country that hates his guts , to hide them from us .......... this is the same Syria that sent troops with us in 91 to fight Saddam out of Kuwait ......
some of you ****ers live in a soap opera reality and need to be Tazered

:D

The things you have to believe to be a bush backer, eh?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

And Gore really won the election.

I knew you were capable of making a factual statement. :thumbsup:

[Garcia Bronco]

The "leaders" you've been backing have demonstrated that they don't know how to handle either olive branches or swords.

They attacked a country that was not a threat to us, did not attack us, etc., and allowed people who were responsible for planning and carrying out an attack against us to go free.

Well, I have already told you why I agreed with going to Iraq and you agreed that they had motive to do us harm. I'll also add I don't support everything George Bush has done nor his administration, but I don't always see eye to eye with the way you(for example) present things. I have also said several times that I want all these bastards given a fair trial followed by a fair hanging. I also don't think Osama Bin Laden is alive anymore.

[Bronco Bob]

And Gore really won the election.

Yes, he did. What's your point?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Well, I have already told you why I agreed with going to Iraq and you agreed that they had motive to do us harm. I'll also add I don't support everything George Bush has done nor his administration, but I don't always see eye to eye with the way you(for example) present things. I have also said several times that I want all these bastards given a fair trial followed by a fair hanging. I also don't think Osama Bin Laden is alive anymore.

Having a motive isn't enough.

"Means, motive, and opportunity" as they say.

All Saddam had was (arguably) a motive.

You could easily make the case that Russia has a 'motive' 'to do us harm.

Should we attack Russia?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://www.bartcop.com/hillarys-problem.JPG

[ant1999e]

Yes, he did. What's your point?

LOL

[Garcia Bronco]

Having a motive isn't enough.

"Means, motive, and opportunity" as they say.

All Saddam had was (arguably) a motive.

You could easily make the case that Russia has a 'motive' 'to do us harm.

Should we attack Russia?

What could we possible gain by that? But like I said, it depends on the situation.

[W*GS]

Yes, he did. What's your point?

Gore "won" if and only if you accept that the Florida courts have the power to change Florida election law on an as-needed basis to get Gore the count he needed in some subset of the state. Personally, I prefer legislatures write the law, but Democrats and left-wingers don't care for such things. The judicial system is where they want to fight their battles, instead of the citizenry. See also abortion and prayer in schools.

[alkemical]

Gore "won" if and only if you accept that the Florida courts have the power to change Florida election law on an as-needed basis to get Gore the count he needed in some subset of the state. Personally, I prefer legislatures write the law, but Democrats and left-wingers don't care for such things. The judicial system is where they want to fight their battles, instead of the citizenry. See also abortion and prayer in schools.

actually it would appear both sides like to fight in the judicial system. it's why it's such a big deal when presidents put their cronies in positions to rule in their ideological failure.

[Spider]

Gore "won" if and only if you accept that the Florida courts have the power to change Florida election law on an as-needed basis to get Gore the count he needed in some subset of the state. Personally, I prefer legislatures write the law, but Democrats and left-wingers don't care for such things. The judicial system is where they want to fight their battles, instead of the citizenry. See also abortion and prayer in schools.

boy are you ever ****ed up . if you pass your knowledge down to your kids , we will have 2 generations of idiots .... IT WAS BUSH THAT STARTED THE COURT PROCEEDINGS .......what a tool

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

What could we possible gain by that?

What have we "gained" by invading and occupying Iraq?

The American people certainly haven't gained anything (unless you're talking about the Toxic Texan's oil and defense industry bosses.)

The Iraqi people sure as f*@k haven't gained anything.

http://www.bartcop.com/hillarys-problem.JPG

http://www.bartcop.com/broke-it-own-it.JPG

[Garcia Bronco]

boy are you ever ****ed up . if you pass your knowledge down to your kids , we will have 2 generations of idiots .... IT WAS BUSH THAT STARTED THE COURT PROCEEDINGS .......what a tool

Doesn't matter. You can't change election law in the middle of an election.

[Garcia Bronco]

What have we "gained" by invading and occupying Iraq?

The American people certainly haven't gained anything (unless you're talking about the Toxic Texan's oil and defense industry bosses.)

The Iraqi people sure as f*@k haven't gained anything.

http://www.bartcop.com/hillarys-problem.JPG

http://www.bartcop.com/broke-it-own-it.JPG

Well perhaps and perhaps not, but I have already said that I don't like the way it's been managed.

[Bronco Bob]

Doesn't matter. You can't change election law in the middle of an election.

I guess someone forgot to tell that to the GOP in 2000.

[Crushaholic]

I guess someone forgot to tell that to the GOP in 2000.

Popular vote has absolutely nothing to do with being elected in American presidential politics. Had Gore won his own home state, this wouldn't have been an issue...

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Popular vote has absolutely nothing to do with being elected in American presidential politics. Had Gore won his own home state, this wouldn't have been an issue...Nor would it if votes in FL had been properly counted.

And saying popular vote has nothing to do with being elected president is pretty stupid.

[Garcia Bronco]

I guess someone forgot to tell that to the GOP in 2000.

Now the SCOTUS told the Florida courts that. They took it right from them and rightfully so.

[Bronco Bob]

Now the SCOTUS told the Florida courts that. They took it right from them and rightfully so.

And the SCOTUS ruled right along party lines, with a 5-4 vote in the GOP's favor.
Would you still be claiming the SCOTUS was right if the ratio of
liberal to conservative justices was 5 to 4 and they had ruled
in Al Gore's favor?

[W*GS]

Nor would it if votes in FL had been properly counted.

Define "properly counted" and "votes in FL". Those are the rubs, aren't they?

And saying popular vote has nothing to do with being elected president is pretty stupid.

Strictly speaking, the popular vote doesn't have anything to do with electing the President. The President is elected by a majority vote of the Electoral College, as specified in the Constitution.