View Full Version : Criticized more Mcnabb or Plummer
Punisher
09-19-2007, 02:18 PM
Philly has fell into the same situation as denver last year.By taking a QB in the draft so when does kevin kolb come in...In who is Criticized more Mcnabb or Plummer.:kiddingme :kiddingme
Northman
09-19-2007, 02:22 PM
Plummer has been far more criticized more than McNabb. But then again McNabb was/is a better QB than Jake was.
Orange_Beard
09-19-2007, 02:34 PM
silly question. I did not ever hear Rashlimbaugh talking smack about jake.
Mcnabb is coming off an acl. I really think that these guys come back way too fast.
Rock Chalk
09-19-2007, 02:36 PM
Rush Limbaugh actually didnt talk **** about McNabb. He was talking **** about the media's love fest with a QB that hasnt and likely will never do **** in the league.
bronco militia
09-19-2007, 02:38 PM
Griese was criticized more than Jake
Bronco_Beerslug
09-19-2007, 02:38 PM
McNabb by a huge margin. Far larger market, far more critics and............................................... ... he's black, isn't he, Rush? :~ohyah!:
Steve Prefontaine
09-19-2007, 03:04 PM
Rush Limbaugh actually didnt talk **** about McNabb. He was talking **** about the media's love fest with a QB that hasnt and likely will never do **** in the league.
I'm not sure what your definition is, but I'd say this is taking some ****, especially since he specifically is naming McNabb.
"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL.
The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.
There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit
for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve."
As far as McNabb never doing anything in the league, I think you are a little harsh. Since being drafted, McNabb has made the Eagles a perennial contender despite the fact that outside of Westbrook and 1 year with T.O., he has had almost no offensive weapons to work with.
Bronco_Beerslug
09-19-2007, 03:08 PM
I'm not sure what your definition is, but I'd say this is taking some ****, especially since he specifically is naming McNabb.
As far as McNabb never doing anything in the league, I think you are a little harsh. Since being drafted, McNabb has made the Eagles a perennial contender despite the fact that outside of Westbrook and 1 year with T.O., he has had almost no offensive weapons to work with.Yeah, I never heard Rush talking down Plummer but Alec never heard Rush talking down McNabb so there's a pretty good snapshot on how people perceive things.
broncosteven
09-19-2007, 03:14 PM
I think if you slack off or are percieved to slack off at the end of a SB where you could have won it that that would hurt your stock some.
Kaylore
09-19-2007, 03:30 PM
Griese was criticized more than Jake
Rightfully so. Plummer had more success than Griese did. What's the saying? "Winning games hides a lot of stink"
JCMElway
09-19-2007, 03:34 PM
Definetly Plummer. Without a doubt.
WolfpackGuy
09-19-2007, 03:35 PM
McNabb takes way more heat than Plummer ever did. Hell, just blame everything on Pat Burrell.
Garcia Bronco
09-19-2007, 03:39 PM
The Denver media is no different than the Philly media, and our fans are more demanding than philly fans any day of the week. As far as who took more heat...I have no clue.
bronco militia
09-19-2007, 03:42 PM
The Denver media is no different than the Philly media, and our fans are more demanding than philly fans any day of the week. As far as who took more heat...I have no clue.
yeah..and we only like white players too
;D
Smiling Assassin27
09-19-2007, 03:47 PM
McNabb takes way more heat than Plummer ever did. Hell, just blame everything on Pat Burrell.
hmmm...
not sure what the Phillies' left fielder has to do with it...did you mean Tillman?
Check out Jason Fatlock's column on Fox sports. I think he does a pretty decent job sizing up Mc Nabb's situation.
WolfpackGuy
09-19-2007, 03:50 PM
Pat Burrell is blamed for everything from bad weather to kidnappings in Philly. Sorry, kind of a local thing.
skpac1001
09-19-2007, 04:00 PM
You know what is kind of funny is that he chose Manning and Palmer out as the qb's who get less criticism then him. Aside from Brady, what qb in the NFL doesn't get more criticism then Manning and Palmer? Shouldnt he be compairing himself to a white qb who is playing at about the same performance level as he is right now?
For fun I looked up qb stats by qb rating, and Losman is one below McNabb, and Harrington is 4 higher. I wonder what they think about how they are babied by the media and fans compared to him.
#2 on the list hears cheers from his own fans when he is injured even though he is white! Can't they see his skin tone from up in the stands?
Punisher
09-19-2007, 04:15 PM
You know what is kind of funny is that he chose Manning and Palmer out as the qb's who get less criticism then him. Aside from Brady, what qb in the NFL doesn't get more criticism then Manning and Palmer? Shouldnt he be compairing himself to a white qb who is playing at about the same performance level as he is right now?
For fun I looked up qb stats by qb rating, and Losman is one below McNabb, and Harrington is 4 higher. I wonder what they think about how they are babied by the media and fans compared to him.
#2 on the list hears cheers from his own fans when he is injured even though he is white! Can't they see his skin tone from up in the stands?
i guess he puts himself up there with palmer and manning
Smiling Assassin27
09-19-2007, 04:18 PM
Pat Burrell is blamed for everything from bad weather to kidnappings in Philly. Sorry, kind of a local thing.
ah, an east coast Brian Griese! ROFL!
ØrangeÇrush
09-19-2007, 04:23 PM
Unfairly Criticized more? McNabb
Criticized more? Plummer
skpac1001
09-19-2007, 04:29 PM
i guess he puts himself up there with palmer and manning
I guess he does. He may have deserved to in the past. But not right now. I wonder how annoying a 9 year starting qb's b****ing is to the black qb's who actually have had to deal with not being considered for a starting job or can't even get a tryout at qb before being asked to switch positions. Kind of like a billionaire complaining about taxes.
NYBronco
09-19-2007, 05:17 PM
Plummer who?
Bronx33
09-19-2007, 05:37 PM
Plummer has been far more criticized more than McNabb. But then again McNabb was/is a better QB than Jake was.
That's because jake was white... ;)
broncosteven
09-19-2007, 05:38 PM
Plummer who?
He is the guy who finished 2nd place with his brother in the Greater Idaho Mens Handball tourney last spring.
TomServo
09-19-2007, 05:48 PM
any qb black, white, or green deserves any and all criticism if, when the superbowls on the line and they cant stop puking and get their fat butt up the field to run a simple two minute offense......deserves critcism.
Odysseus
09-19-2007, 06:13 PM
McNabb gets more heat than Plummer. He was booed when he was drafted. His "mom" was pimping soup. If you throw in other miscellanous marketing love and hate fests he actually gets press in Denver where if you hear of Jake in Philly it normally gets only as far as the editing room floor. He gets heat because he's too black, not black enough or that he hangs out with some black guys on Sundays.
Griese gets more heat than Plummer because his backup at Michigan Tom Brady is actually making a career for himself. No wait. That's not true. I guess it was because he sucked!
Plummer is retired and we are still posted threads on the guy. He's killing fish in Idaho somewhere. I wish he would post here. That would be fun stuff. Hey Jake! Come on man! We wuv you!
Triplelefthook
09-19-2007, 06:38 PM
griese caught more heat because he came after elway
Atwater His Ass
09-19-2007, 06:45 PM
Plummer is retired and we are still posted threads on the guy. He's killing fish in Idaho somewhere. I wish he would post here. That would be fun stuff. Hey Jake! Come on man! We wuv you!
Now that would be something to see. We could only hope.
Odysseus
09-19-2007, 07:06 PM
griese caught more heat because he came after elway
In Jake's press conference he was talking about having "big shoes to fill" referring to Elway. Apparently that was part of the problem. Instead of talking to Elway he should have talked to Griese.
-Slap-
09-19-2007, 08:04 PM
The Denver media is no different than the Philly media, and our fans are more demanding than philly fans any day of the week. As far as who took more heat...I have no clue.
Nice save at the end there. The rest of the post was utter nonsense.