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alkemical
09-12-2007, 10:19 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/10/tech/main3246430.shtml

Cancer Researcher Discovers Hydrogen From Salt Water Can Be "Burned" By Radio Frequencies

(AP) An Erie cancer researcher has found a way to burn salt water, a novel invention that is being touted by one chemist as the "most remarkable" water science discovery in a century.

John Kanzius happened upon the discovery accidentally when he tried to desalinate seawater with a radio-frequency generator he developed to treat cancer. He discovered that as long as the salt water was exposed to the radio frequencies it would burn.

The discovery has scientists excited by the prospect of using salt water, the most abundant resource on earth, as a fuel.

Rustum Roy, a Penn State University chemist, has held demonstrations at his State College lab to confirm his own observations.

The radio frequencies act to weaken the bonds between the elements that make up salt water, releasing the hydrogen, Roy said. Once ignited, the hydrogen will burn as long as it is exposed to the frequencies, he said.

The discovery is "the most remarkable in water science in 100 years," Roy said.

"This is the most abundant element in the world. It is everywhere," Roy said. "Seeing it burn gives me the chills."

Roy will meet this week with officials from the Department of Energy and the Department of Defense to try to obtain research funding.

The scientists want to find out whether the energy output from the burning hydrogen - which reached a heat of more than 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit - would be enough to power a car or other heavy machinery.

"We will get our ideas together and check this out and see where it leads," Roy said. "The potential is huge."


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Bronco Bob
09-12-2007, 11:47 PM
Of course you still need electricity to produce the radio waves.
And it doesn't sound like a very efficient process. How does
this compare with hydrolysis in terms of energy in vs energy out?

alkemical
09-12-2007, 11:50 PM
i dunno, ask john

jhat01
09-12-2007, 11:52 PM
Better ask Al Gore if it's OK first. Wouldn't "burning" the oceans make global warming worse? lol

Rohirrim
09-13-2007, 12:02 AM
I think we should try burning polar bears. They're going to be extinct anyway. There's nothing we can do about it. Why leave them out there to suffer, swimming miles and miles, looking for the sea ice they will never find, only to finally drown? What a waste of a resource. Maybe we could figure out some way to turn them into charcoal briquets?

(inspiration by Jonathan Swift)

yavoon
09-13-2007, 02:36 AM
haha yah thats what we need, to burn away the earth's water.

Bronco Bob
09-13-2007, 11:38 AM
haha yah thats what we need, to burn away the earth's water.

Can you say the Moon?

alkemical
09-13-2007, 11:44 AM
Can you say the Moon?

mars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Martian_Chronicles)? ;)

The Lone Bolt
09-13-2007, 11:56 AM
haha yah thats what we need, to burn away the earth's water.

Actually when the hydrogen burns it rebonds with oxygen and the byproduct is fresh water. Not only might this make a good source of energy it might also be used to desalinate water for thristy areas of the world.

The big question of course is how energy efficient the process is. Does the production of radio waves consume more energy than the process produces? And also are there any environmentally harmful emissions? I will be keeping an eye on this.

Thanks Clavi!

Spider
09-13-2007, 11:58 AM
Actually when the hydrogen burns it rebonds with oxygen and the byproduct is fresh water. Not only might this make a good source of energy it might also be used to desalinate water for thristy areas of the world.

The big question of course is how energy efficient the process is. Does the production of radio waves consume more energy than the process produces? And also are there any environmentally harmful emissions? I will be keeping an eye on this.

Thanks Clavi!
LOL it is Yavoon ........ dont confuse the dumb **** any more then you have to ......when dealing with yavoon remember K.I.S.S. keep it simple stupid

Bronco Bob
09-13-2007, 12:58 PM
Actually when the hydrogen burns it rebonds with oxygen and the byproduct is fresh water. Not only might this make a good source of energy it might also be used to desalinate water for thristy areas of the world.

The big question of course is how energy efficient the process is. Does the production of radio waves consume more energy than the process produces? And also are there any environmentally harmful emissions? I will be keeping an eye on this.

Thanks Clavi!

I asked Clavi the same question. He said to ask John about it.

Bronco Bob
09-13-2007, 12:59 PM
mars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Martian_Chronicles)? ;)

Turns out Mars has lots of water. Just that most of it is frozen and locked up
in the poles.

alkemical
09-13-2007, 01:12 PM
I asked Clavi the same question. He said to ask John about it.

hey i know psychology, computers, broadcasting, (learning) chaos theory and associated maths, and religion(s). When it comes to stuff like this, i find it interesting but don't know how feasible it is. So i figure the guy in the article would have a possible PSU.edu addy you could hit him up on if you want to know more.

yavoon
09-13-2007, 02:01 PM
Actually when the hydrogen burns it rebonds with oxygen and the byproduct is fresh water. Not only might this make a good source of energy it might also be used to desalinate water for thristy areas of the world.

The big question of course is how energy efficient the process is. Does the production of radio waves consume more energy than the process produces? And also are there any environmentally harmful emissions? I will be keeping an eye on this.

Thanks Clavi!

what?