No Chefs Thread!?!?

[Popps]

I know this is a Peyton Manning appreciation forum, but I personally found the Chefs getting taken apart by the Texans on opening day pretty comical.

Nice job, K.C.. Wasn't Manboob telling us their defense was going to step up this year?

At least their offense lived up to expectations.

Hilarious!


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[Bronco LB 59]

Kubiak owns Goonther.

[NYBronco]

Did they even score?

[rovolution]

Like all the experts and football fans predicted, KC will be lucky to win 4 games this season.

[ZachKC]

The defense played quite well...they gave up 7 points.

The offense was dead set on putting them in bad positions....turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. A really rough call killed any momentum we had for good late the game. I am still surprised that the play stood but that is the game.

WRs need to hold on to the ball. It was a weird game...just stupid **** at horrible times kept the drives from happening. The line played better than I though they would...gave up a few sacks but from start to finish they kept the pressure of pretty well.

They need to focus and prepare better...I don't think the final score indicated how the game went down but the Texans deserved it no doubt. Schaub did what he needed too. And at the pivotal points in the game they made things happen when the Chiefs couldn't.

[Pezman]

Well, lets see, where to begin.

Um the glorious return of Herm... um no

The Successful new beginning for Damon... errr maybe not

The "worth every penny" results of Larry Johnson... not so much

The dominating Chiefs defense of.... ah screw it

[ZachKC]

The defense played quite well...they gave up 7 points.

The offense was dead set on putting them in bad positions....turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. A really rough call killed any momentum we had for good late the game. I am still surprised that the play stood but that is the game.

WRs need to hold on to the ball. It was a weird game...just stupid **** at horrible times kept the drives from happening. The line played better than I though they would...gave up a few sacks but from start to finish they kept the pressure of pretty well.

They need to focus and prepare better...I don't think the final score indicated how the game went down but the Texans deserved it no doubt. Schaub did what he needed too. And at the pivotal points in the game they made things happen when the Chiefs couldn't.

Actually 10. The defense gave up 10 points. One FG drive...and a long ass touchdown. With the way the offense played though? You couldn't have asked for much more. They were put in a position to fail.

[Northman]

The defense played quite well...they gave up 7 points.

The offense was dead set on putting them in bad positions....turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. A really rough call killed any momentum we had for good late the game. I am still surprised that the play stood but that is the game.

WRs need to hold on to the ball. It was a weird game...just stupid **** at horrible times kept the drives from happening. The line played better than I though they would...gave up a few sacks but from start to finish they kept the pressure of pretty well.

They need to focus and prepare better...I don't think the final score indicated how the game went down but the Texans deserved it no doubt. Schaub did what he needed too. And at the pivotal points in the game they made things happen when the Chiefs couldn't.


But according to some of you the offense wouldnt miss a beat without Green. And with LJ the chiefs would just mowdown opposing defenses. And the Chiefs defense? All you hear is how much greater they are this year. But ironically, the results are the same with the chiefs losing. And man, boob saying the Broncos defense was horrible but yet we only gave up 14 points as opposed to 20 to a team whose Oline is supposed to be one of the worst in the league. Just as ask David Carr. Ha!

[Florida_Bronco]

That was a seriously piss poor showing. Huard was god awful, as was their entire offense. Granted my attention was split between the Broncos game on the big screen and the Chiefs game on the smaller TV, but their defense was medicore at best from what I saw. It looked like the Texans pretty pushed the Chiefs around pretty well.

It's early, but that team has little upside and I have a feeling we're gonna be sweeping them this season.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

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[azbroncfan]

The defense played quite well...they gave up 7 points.

The offense was dead set on putting them in bad positions....turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. A really rough call killed any momentum we had for good late the game. I am still surprised that the play stood but that is the game.

WRs need to hold on to the ball. It was a weird game...just stupid **** at horrible times kept the drives from happening. The line played better than I though they would...gave up a few sacks but from start to finish they kept the pressure of pretty well.

They need to focus and prepare better...I don't think the final score indicated how the game went down but the Texans deserved it no doubt. Schaub did what he needed too. And at the pivotal points in the game they made things happen when the Chiefs couldn't.

I owe you an apology. I'm sorry for telling you the queefs would be a 7 win team. This KC team isn't winning more than 5.

[ZachKC]

But according to some of you the offense wouldnt miss a beat without Green. And with LJ the chiefs would just mowdown opposing defenses. And the Chiefs defense? All you hear is how much greater they are this year. But ironically, the results are the same with the chiefs losing. And man, boob saying the Broncos defense was horrible but yet we only gave up 14 points as opposed to 20 to a team whose Oline is supposed to be one of the worst in the league. Just as ask David Carr. Ha!
Wouldn't miss a beat without Green?

I am not really interested in all of these straw men...and if you have any issues with what Bob says you can take it up with him...I am not here to defend the stuff he says.

I knew this offense would have growing pains...I would like them to be better at this point but I don't what to say...this was just a weird ass game. Mental errors just killed this team today. I see those as things that can get taken care of. My big concern was our Oline and I have to say...they did a pretty good job. There were a few sacks but overall they kept Huard free.

As far as the defense goes they did a decent, not great job. The line got a pretty consistant rush...sometimes the rush was really good. Not a bad sign considering our top pass rusher was inactive. They found some soft spots in our coverages at time and we gave up on huge TD that looked pretty bad...but like I said...when an offense is giving up the ball and not making drives...a defense can only do so much.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

What everyone forgets is that the Chiefs looked worse...AT HOME...to open the season last year.

[rovolution]

Mario Williams was devasting your oline chorf fans.

ahhhhh...Chorfs suck

[ZachKC]

What everyone forgets is that the Chiefs looked worse...AT HOME...to open the season last year.

What did you think about the "catch" and fumble?

At first I defended the play being upheld...then my roommates and I were going back and forth about it and they asked me.... "If that play had been in the end zone would they have called it a TD" I had to pause....I don't think so.

On one hand when I saw it I thought it was a fumble and not incomplete but on the other hand I couldn't see that being called a caught TD. The more I think about it the more I disagree with the call.

[That One Guy]

And things are only gonna get worse from here on out... No Quitterson or Surtain for next week... I wouldn't wanna be part of that performance if I were them either...

[Kaylore]

Ha ha. Chiefs suck. Larry Johnson didn't do anything. You can tell his career is already on the way out the door. Honestly the Browns have a better QB situation than the pitiful Chiefs. Miserable failures of a team and a franchise. Just miserable failures.

[AboveAverage]

The defense played quite well...they gave up 7 points.

The offense was dead set on putting them in bad positions....turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. A really rough call killed any momentum we had for good late the game. I am still surprised that the play stood but that is the game.

WRs need to hold on to the ball. It was a weird game...just stupid **** at horrible times kept the drives from happening. The line played better than I though they would...gave up a few sacks but from start to finish they kept the pressure of pretty well.

They need to focus and prepare better...I don't think the final score indicated how the game went down but the Texans deserved it no doubt. Schaub did what he needed too. And at the pivotal points in the game they made things happen when the Chiefs couldn't.

But...but...Zach. You told us all to wait, this team was going to be good this year, and all the doubters would be surprised.

Taking pictures of flowers may be your expertise, but football isn't. Oh well?

[KCStud]

That was a seriously piss poor showing. Huard was god awful, as was their entire offense. Granted my attention was split between the Broncos game on the big screen and the Chiefs game on the smaller TV, but their defense was medicore at best from what I saw. It looked like the Texans pretty pushed the Chiefs around pretty well.

It's early, but that team has little upside and I have a feeling we're gonna be sweeping them this season.

The offense was horrible, except LJ(4.3 YPC).

The defense was not mediocre though. The defense was actually very good. Boone had a good day at DT getting a sack, batted pass, and 2 stops in the backfield.
Aside from the Johson TD, the D did a very good job. Kubiak tried the bootleg early and KC not only stopped it, but got the INT.

The offense/ST's was why KC lost. The offense gave up a TD on the fumble and our returner fumbled the ball at our own 20 giving them a FG. All in all KC's D gave up 13 points.

[CoMoChief]

But according to some of you the offense wouldnt miss a beat without Green. And with LJ the chiefs would just mowdown opposing defenses. And the Chiefs defense? All you hear is how much greater they are this year. But ironically, the results are the same with the chiefs losing. And man, boob saying the Broncos defense was horrible but yet we only gave up 14 points as opposed to 20 to a team whose Oline is supposed to be one of the worst in the league. Just as ask David Carr. Ha!

Either you didn't watch the game or you can't read previous posts, one of the two.

7 points was from a fumble return for a TD from when Wilson fumbled the ball. Even then, we would give up 13 to you 14, but if you turn the ball over as much as the Chiefs did today, no defense would be able to hold an opposing team from scoring. Drummond fumbled and just by of where he did it, it would have given HOU at least a FG. The defense didn't play bad at all IMO.

[ZachKC]

But...but...Zach. You told us all to wait, this team was going to be good this year, and all the doubters would be surprised.

Taking pictures of flowers may be your expertise, but football isn't. Oh well?

Actually, I don't have a single picture of a flower. Not one.

Your made up attempted slams aside.

There are a lot of teams who do quite well after losing a single game. If you like to be chicken little then go ahead.

[Kaylore]

Either you didn't watch the game or you can't read previous posts, one of the two.

7 points was from a fumble return for a TD from when Wilson fumbled the ball. Even then, we would give up 13 to you 14, but if you turn the ball over as much as the Chiefs did today, no defense would be able to hold an opposing team from scoring. Drummond fumbled and just by of where he did it, it would have given HOU at least a FG.

We only gave up 7, genius. They scored on a punt return.

Broncos Defense > Failures' defense.

[Dukes]

So how come LJ only got 43 yards? Did he not get many carries? Did he get shutdown?

[RMT]

What everyone forgets is that the Chiefs looked worse...AT HOME...to open the season last year.

keep telling yourself that - anything to pacify your fears ... it's going to be a long season for the chiefs ... they got beat by the texans :yayaya:

[ZachKC]

The offense was horrible, except LJ(4.3 YPC).

The defense was not mediocre though. The defense was actually very good. Boone had a good day at DT getting a sack, batted pass, and 2 stops in the backfield.
Aside from the Johson TD, the D did a very good job. Kubiak tried the bootleg early and KC not only stopped it, but got the INT.

The offense/ST's was why KC lost. The offense gave up a TD on the fumble and our returner fumbled the ball at our own 20 giving them a FG. All in all KC's D gave up 13 points.

Thats a pretty good wrap up of the situation. Although I don't give Larry that much credit today.

[Dagmar]

Bob wishes he was a Broncos fan.

[RMT]

and after next weekend, the chiefs will be 0-2 after losing to the bears. then the vikings come to town - the way the vikes played today, the chiefs could lose their home opener, too ... then off to san diego ... do i hear 0-4?

[Pezman]

But...but...Zach. You told us all to wait, this team was going to be good this year, and all the doubters would be surprised.

Taking pictures of flowers may be your expertise, but football isn't. Oh well?

Hey damn it, that's my schtick ;D

[Bob's your Information Minister]

So how come LJ only got 43 yards? Did he not get many carries? Did he get shutdown?

10 carries. He looked good out there to be honest. Blocked well and caught everything thrown his way.

[Blueflame]

LJ was your top receiver as well as your leading rusher, Zach.

[ZachKC]

LJ was your top receiver as well as your leading rusher, Zach.
No doubt, and I will go out and say this particular criticism could be misplaced but. He got decent yardage and did some good things...but for his caliber and what we need of him? We needed a bit more. Granted if the WRs take care of business it prob would have been a different story.

[Blueflame]

No doubt, and I will go out and say this particular criticism could be misplaced but. He got decent yardage and did some good things...but for his caliber and what we need of him? We needed a bit more. Granted if the WRs take care of business it prob would have been a different story.

Or if Damon Huard was capable of performing better than 22/33 for a pedestrian 168 yards with 2 picks, then the load wouldn't have to be put so heavily on a single player either. Hey, there's a lot of things wrong with your team, but I don't think LJ is anywhere near the top of that list when the team puts up 219 net yards and 87 of them are directly attributable to LJ. I'd also point to 3rd down efficiency (3 of 11 or 27%) as a part of the problem...

[ZachKC]

Or if Damon Huard was capable of performing better than 22/33 for a pedestrian 168 yards with 2 picks, then the load wouldn't have to be put so heavily on a single player either. Hey, there's a lot of things wrong with your team, but I don't think LJ is anywhere near the top of that list when the team puts up 219 net yards and 87 of them are directly attributable to LJ. I'd also point to 3rd down efficiency (3 of 11 or 27%) as a part of the problem...
Huard? I would have liked to see him play better but he can't make the WRs catch the ball. There were a lot of stupid drops out there. I am not saying LJ is wrong with the team but I do think there were some crucial points where we needed a special player to make a special play...and...he wasn't that player to make that play today.

[Meck77]

Didn't see the game but it appears their punter had a decent average. Hey it's something to build on!

oh and Bob your Chorfs freaking blow....I'm predicting plenty of empty seats in Arrowhead by mid season.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

This time next year, we'll all be here chanting 39 years and counting, 39 years and counting, ....................

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Didn't see the game but it appears their punter had a decent average. Hey it's something to build on!

oh and Bob your Chorfs freaking blow....I'm predicting plenty of empty seats in Arrowhead by mid season.

I'll repeat it:

Last year at this time, we got our asses handed to us at home by the Bengals. There was almost nothing to be pleased with.

Today we weren't good. But there were bright spots. Herm's always had slow-starting teams. But he consistently makes the playoffs.

Go ahead and count us out. We'll still pound your ass into slag when you visit Arrowhead. That's a guarantee.

[theAPAOps5]

Can we get a mod to mark this thread and if they don't pound us kick him off the board ;D

[Blueflame]

Huard? I would have liked to see him play better but he can't make the WRs catch the ball. There were a lot of stupid drops out there. I am not saying LJ is wrong with the team but I do think there were some crucial points where we needed a special player to make a special play...and...he wasn't that player to make that play today.

Anytime a pass falls incomplete, blame could be assigned to the QB, the receiver, or both. As has been true in most recent Chefs seasons, however, it appears that the first option is the RB and the second option is your TE. More than half of Huard's completions were to either LJ or Gonzo. No, Huard can't make his WRs catch the ball...but something is clearly missing from your offense when... year after year... your top 2 receivers play at a position other than WR.

[Blueflame]

'Cause after all, there is no difference between the '06 Bengals and the '07 Texans...Hilarious!

[bpc]

Wow, never thought I would hear a team bragging about holding the Texans to 10 pts.

"but, but, but, our defense held the Texans to 10 pts... {lip quivers}"

Sadly, the Texans defense held you to three.

KC may start 0-7. Even the Raiders look better at this point. At least they put up a fight, scored some points.

@Chicago - L
Minnesota - L
@SD - L
Jacksonville - L (Revenge on their minds!)
Cincinatti - Will beat Chiefs in Arrowhead for 2nd straight year.
@Oakland - ????

Well, the chiefs always want to be #1... this year they will be. Ha ha.

tick tock tick tock. I hope Carl is watching that college tape already.

[TheDave]

Go ahead and count us out. We'll still pound your ass into slag when you visit Arrowhead. That's a guarantee.

Ah Chef fans annual superbowl...

[Bob's your Information Minister]

'Cause after all, there is no difference between the '06 Bengals and the '07 Texans...Hilarious!

The 06 Bengals were what, 9-7? 8-8? I don't care to look it up now.

Houston looks like an improved squad. Kubiak's assembling a nice team down there.

[ZachKC]

bpc, who is bragging about it? Honestly?

Nobody is bragging about it. We are discussing the game and responding to claims that the Chiefs defense got dominated. When they clearly didn't. They gave up 10 points. This is the NFL.

[RMT]

the chiefs had bright spots? ... i'm sorry - were there plays being run during commercials? that's the only part of the game i could have possibly missed.

[bpc]

bpc, who is bragging about it? Honestly?

Nobody is bragging about it. We are discussing the game and responding to claims that the Chiefs defense got dominated. When they clearly didn't. They gave up 10 points. This is the NFL.

I'm just $hittin ya bro.

We only gave up 7 pts... :~ohyah!:

[nickademus]

But according to some of you the offense wouldnt miss a beat without Green. And with LJ the chiefs would just mowdown opposing defenses. And the Chiefs defense? All you hear is how much greater they are this year. But ironically, the results are the same with the chiefs losing. And man, boob saying the Broncos defense was horrible but yet we only gave up 14 points as opposed to 20 to a team whose Oline is supposed to be one of the worst in the league. Just as ask David Carr. Ha!

hate to correct a broncos fan while ripping on the quiefs but we only gave up one score on d Buffalo returned a kick for a touch for the first score of the game. now rip on!!!!!!!!

[OrangeShadow]

I only saw the score when i got home because i was working from 6:30-4. But they lost, all i really care about

[ZachKC]

I'm just $hittin ya bro.

We only gave up 7 pts... :~ohyah!:

I think Denver and Kansas City both have defenses that are quite good.

[sixtimeseight]

Where's those fat pieces of crap crazyhorse and kmartin? I think the best part of the Chiefs getting blown out by crappy teams is that these worthless trolls scamper like cockroaches when the kitchen light comes on.

[ZachKC]

Where's those fat pieces of crap crazyhorse and kmartin? I think the best part of the Chiefs getting blown out by crappy teams is that these worthless trolls scamper like cockroaches when the kitchen light comes on.

Hm, I think you are making this up.

Both the users you listed esp Crazy comes back after tough losses...has been for a while.

Besides, posting on this board today is quite a chore. I feel like I am on Prodigy at 2400 baud.

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[Odysseus]

Four games later....(sound of crickets) Where did the Chiefs fans go? Hello?

[Rock Chalk]

But according to some of you the offense wouldnt miss a beat without Green. And with LJ the chiefs would just mowdown opposing defenses. And the Chiefs defense? All you hear is how much greater they are this year. But ironically, the results are the same with the chiefs losing. And man, boob saying the Broncos defense was horrible but yet we only gave up 14 points as opposed to 20 to a team whose Oline is supposed to be one of the worst in the league. Just as ask David Carr. Ha!

7 Points. Our defense only gave up 7 points.

Our special teams luckily only gave up 7 points too. This is still our biggest and possibly only great weakness. We got other weaknesses, but none of them are nearly as glaring now as the special teams.

[Blueflame]

On opening day last year, the '06 Bengals were coming off an 11-5 season that resulted in a (one and done) playoff appearance. The '07 Texans, on the other hand, are coming off a 6-10 season... and the franchise has never amassed more than seven wins. Losing to the Texans is not the same thing as losing to the Bengals.... it has a lot to do with expectations and few knowledgeable football fans would expect the Texans to make the playoffs anytime soon. The same cannot be said about the '06 Bengals, although they ended up falling a few games short.

[sixtimeseight]

I'm pretty sure kmartin wasn't even on this board last season, so i'm not sure where you came up with that.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

No one gives a **** what the Bengals were "coming off." All that matters is the team they were last year.

In 2005 the Chiefs walloped a Jets team "coming off" a playoff season. They ended up 4-12. Few Bronco fans gave us credit for beating a team "coming off" a good season.

The Broncos got blasted by the Dolphins on opening day and still went to the AFC Championship. Getting too high or too low over opening day is silly. I wasn't impressed with the Chiefs today, but there was more to be happy about than there was on opening day last year. At least our quarterback didn't get his skull rocked this time.

[RMT]

the chiefs have LOTS to worry about - going to chicago next week, they could be in an 0-2 hole ...

[Blueflame]

OK, so getting beaten on opening day by the last season's division champion is every bit as ignominious as being beaten by a team that has never won more than 7 games... if you say so, Bob. ROFL!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

the chiefs have LOTS to worry about - going to chicago next week, they could be in an 0-2 hole ...

No biggie. We were 0-2 last year and still made the playoffs.

[sixtimeseight]

the chiefs have LOTS to worry about - going to chicago next week, they could be in an 0-2 hole ...

Could be? Chicago will be favored by like 2 touchdowns and I'd still take that bet.

[bpc]

No biggie. We were 0-2 last year and still made the playoffs.

This year they'll be 0-6... no biggie.

[NodJello]

What did you think about the "catch" and fumble?

At first I defended the play being upheld...then my roommates and I were going back and forth about it and they asked me.... "If that play had been in the end zone would they have called it a TD" I had to pause....I don't think so.

On one hand when I saw it I thought it was a fumble and not incomplete but on the other hand I couldn't see that being called a caught TD. The more I think about it the more I disagree with the call.

For what it's worth...I checked out this thread to see if anyone else thought the pass was incomplete. I didn't watch the game, just checked out the recap on nfl. Did Herm challenge? I was surprised they ruled it a completion.

[Rohirrim]

I would like to thank the Chefs for letting football fans see how fast Mario Williams can run the forty. ;D

[ZachKC]

For what it's worth...I checked out this thread to see if anyone else thought the pass was incomplete. I didn't watch the game, just checked out the recap on nfl. Did Herm challenge? I was surprised they ruled it a completion.

It was challenged and the play was upheld. And again this sounds weird but these were my exact thoughts...they contradict each other.

I felt like when I watched the play independent of any other play he had the ball and fumbled it.

But if it had been in the end zone it would never had been called a TD.

Weird play, I would love to see thoughts of people who saw it.

[ZachKC]

Oh, this is for Kaylore.

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[24champ]

No biggie. We were 0-2 last year and still made the playoffs.

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yeah nothing to see here folks....:rofl:

[Orange_Beard]

Did Larry get his 400 carries today?

[azbroncfan]

No biggie. We were 0-2 last year and still made the playoffs.

But KC is a much worse team this year. Garbage at the QB, WR's a year older outside of Bowe, OL is crap, Defense little better but CB's another year on them, young S's.

How did you like Law, the great TY FLAW, hang his S out to dry on the long TD?

[ZachKC]

That long TD was on Pollard it was his responsibility. He just bit and was a step late on the whole thing.

As far as the oline being crap...they gave up a few sacks but protected Huard quite well all day...the offensive line preformed quite well. You can tell McIntosh is an improvement. The WRs? Bowe showed flashes but we need help. Drop Drop Drop....

[azbroncfan]

[QUOTE=ZachKC;1706912]That long TD was on Pollard it was his responsibility. QUOTE]


Obviously you didn't know what I was talking about but LAW missed the Jam and didn't even get a hand on Johnson which could of made a big difference.

[ZachKC]

[QUOTE=ZachKC;1706912]That long TD was on Pollard it was his responsibility. QUOTE]


Obviously you didn't know what I was talking about but LAW missed the Jam and didn't even get a hand on Johnson which could of made a big difference.
Pollard had responsibility deep and had he not been sucked in a step or two he would have had coverage on him. Even if he could have done more to help out and jam him up better. The heat Law gets is kind of funny. He has played great ball in KC. He pretty much dominated the best QB in the game last year himself.

[azbroncfan]

[QUOTE=azbroncfan;1706922]
Pollard had responsibility deep and had he not been sucked in a step or two he would have had coverage on him.


Law still missed his JAM. Spin it anyway you like but that is the fact. Does a CB no good to play at LOS and not touch the WR.

[ZachKC]

Aside from that deep pass I liked the work from our young safties. Page got a nice INT in the endzone...I bet FB for all of his football knowledge dog and pony show still doesn't know who the guy is. I think Whitlock hit the nail on the head about the game today...aside from being a little hard on Bowe IMO. Some of the stuff that happened was just unfortunate...that swing from the bad call just...f'ed everything up. lol

Whitlock: Chiefs weren’t as bad as expected

HOUSTON | On opening day, inside Reliant Stadium, playing against a mediocre opponent, the Chiefs were exactly who the experts thought they were — bumbling on offense, horrid on special teams and toothless on defense.

The Texans slapped the Chiefs 20-3, setting the stage for a week’s worth of sky-is-falling analysis in Kansas City.

Surprisingly, and perhaps against my better judgment, I won’t be the ringleader.

Oh, the Chiefs were bad. They turned the ball over four times. Herm Edwards’ pet kicker, Justin Medlock, sliced a first-possession 30-yard field-goal attempt. Eddie Drummond, the return man the Chiefs picked up and kept despite Justin Phinisee’s fine training camp, coughed up a critical fumble. And, most disturbingly, Kansas City’s defense surrendered a game-deciding 15-play, 65-yard, 10-minute, 25-second drive opening the fourth quarter.

The Chiefs just weren’t as bad as I thought they’d be.

An officiating error knocked the Chiefs out of this game. Kris Wilson did not fumble at the beginning of the third quarter. No way. I don’t blame the refs for letting defensive end Mario Williams scoop up Wilson’s drop and run into the end zone. The refs know there’s instant replay, and there’s a way to correct an error that occurs before a whistle.

Someone needs to explain to me how that fumble wasn’t overturned and made into an incompletion.

“Well, I challenged it,” Edwards said after the game. “That’s all you can do.”

Wilson added: “It was definitely an incompletion.”

The bad call turned a 10-0 offensive struggle into a 17-0 rout that rendered Larry Johnson and Michael Bennett useless.

When the half opened, I fully expected the Chiefs to jam Johnson and Bennett down the heart of Houston’s defense. It was there for the taking. Kansas City’s offensive line did a nice job in the running game. In the first half, Johnson and Bennett combined for 55 yards in 11 carries.

They split four carries in the second half. Turnovers, dropped passes, Houston’s clock-eating, fourth-quarter drive and the 17-0 deficit prevented the Chiefs from getting into their ground game.

“We have to get back to the fundamentals,” guard Brian Waters said. “We have to hold on to the football, catch the passes that hit us in the hands …”

Yeah, Dwayne Bowe had a terrible debut. By my count, he dropped three passes. Eddie Kennison’s pulled hamstring on KC’s first play tossed Bowe into the lineup. He choked. Let’s hope Kennison’s injury and Bowe’s performance will get Bobby Sippio off KC’s practice squad and onto the field. Sippio should be KC’s third receiver after Kennison and Samie Parker, who shockingly turned in a solid performance.

Kennison’s early departure (and Bowe’s hands) hamstrung Mike Solari’s playbook. Solari’s opportunity to adjust was blown up when the refs counted Williams’ fumble-return TD.

Hey, I’m not arguing the Chiefs should’ve won this game. That’s not true. But Kennison’s injury and the blown call compromised KC’s shot at being competitive. Trust me, the Chiefs can compete with the Texans.

And this Sunday, the Chiefs might be able to lock the Chicago Bears in a low-scoring offensive struggle, too. The Chiefs have two good backs, a physical offensive line, and I liked what I saw from quarterback Damon Huard.

Despite the drops, Huard completed 22 of 33 passes. His two picks didn’t bother me. Huard made sound, quick reads and delivered the ball with accuracy. He was relatively calm in the pocket.

Defensively, a coverage mistake or poor scheme left safety Bernard Pollard one-on-one with speedster Andre Johnson, who scored on a 77-yard play. Defensive tackle Alfonso Boone gave the Chiefs a presence inside. The Chiefs’ pass rush missed Jared Allen, who has to sit out one more game.

The Chiefs weren’t quite bad enough for me to write them off and begin my “Dethrone The King Campaign” (DTKC). I’m patient. I’ll wait another week.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

OL is crap
?

Yeah? They looked much better than they did at any point last year. People were dogging me ALL OFFSEASON about pimping McIntosh, but he had a GREAT GAME today. He looked MUCH better than Jordan Black ever did.

[theAPAOps5]

yet LJ didn't break 100 yds and you scored 3 pts. Yeah speaks wonders for the OLine and the team in general. But hey under Hermy 3 points should be a blow out!

[ZachKC]

yet LJ didn't break 100 yds and you scored 3 pts. Yeah speaks wonders for the OLine and the team in general. But hey under Hermy 3 points should be a blow out!

They had to abandon the run...LJ only had 10 carries...

They only tried 4 carries in the second half...but were solid on the run when they did commit to it.

Alot of things didn't go right. But the offensive line played well.

[azbroncfan]

Yeah? They looked much better than they did at any point last year. People were dogging me ALL OFFSEASON about pimping McIntosh, but he had a GREAT GAME today. He looked MUCH better than Jordan Black ever did.

Like that is saying much. So did George Foster. The only thing that the Queefs need to worry about is who they are going to take with their top 5 pick.

[theAPAOps5]

Ok I didn't see it so I at least take your word. Bobo is just a hack writer with Homer takes. But why abandon the run in the second half you weren't that far behind or was the D just that good against it. If so that is bad news when we play them.

[Los Broncos]

KC is in big trouble

[ZachKC]

Ok I didn't see it so I at least take your word. Bobo is just a hack writer with Homer takes. But why abandon the run in the second half you weren't that far behind or was the D just that good against it. If so that is bad news when we play them.
I would have liked to run more but they were not making the passes happen...drops and what not...and then there were the turnovers. The biggest killer was the drive that happened in the 4th for 10 ****ing mins. The defense was just hung out way too much.

[azbroncfan]

I would have liked to run more but they were not making the passes happen...drops and what not...and then there were the turnovers. The biggest killer was the drive that happened in the 4th for 10 ****ing mins. The defense was just hung out way too much.

I watched the game a little on the comercials of the Denver game and I noticed a funny trend KC does in the pass game. What is with PA pass then checking down to RB/TE in the flat or 3 yards in front of the center? Why doesn't Herm look deep first and work the progressions back to the RB?

[ZachKC]

I watched the game a little on the comercials of the Denver game and I noticed a funny trend KC does in the pass game. What is with PA pass then checking down to RB/TE in the flat or 3 yards in front of the center? Why doesn't Herm look deep first and work the progressions back to the RB?

Oh, it is frustrating. I don't think thats a coaching thing. Some plays are like that because a lot of times Johnson or Bennett will get really good yards or the first check will be TG and usually that is good to go.

More so I just wonder if our receivers are getting open downfield...

[REB]

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[DenverBrit]

We'll still pound your ass into slag when you visit Arrowhead. .

Still hanging out in the men's room in your tap shoes??

[DenverBrit]

This should have been a 'Texans-Kubes' thread.

[ZachKC]

Still hanging out in the men's room in your tap shoes??

Wow, weak.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I watched the game a little on the comercials of the Denver game and I noticed a funny trend KC does in the pass game. What is with PA pass then checking down to RB/TE in the flat or 3 yards in front of the center? Why doesn't Herm look deep first and work the progressions back to the RB?

How do you know that is not exactly what is happening? Herm stated in the post-game press conference they tried to complete some deep passes but it just wasn't there.

[DenverBrit]

Wow, weak.

Lame!

[bpc]

Yeah? They looked much better than they did at any point last year. People were dogging me ALL OFFSEASON about pimping McIntosh, but he had a GREAT GAME today. He looked MUCH better than Jordan Black ever did.

You just keep throwing out these earth shattering quotes. Better than Jordan BLACK? STOP THE PRESSES!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

You just keep throwing out these earth shattering quotes. Better than Jordan BLACK? STOP THE PRESSES!

Everyone here was telling me how Black to McIntosh was a lateral move, and "at least Black was somewhat athletic." The Charger fans wouldn't shut up about how bad McIntosh was.

[Atlas]

Four games later....(sound of crickets) Where did the Chiefs fans go? Hello?

It's going to be nice after week 6 or so to be troll free around here.... I guess we'll still have to put up with Charger fan but Faier and Queef fan will be long gone.

[Popps]

K.C. just needs to lock up Herm for another 10 years.

[rovolution]

K.C. just needs to lock up Herm for another 10 years.

ROFL!

btw...how many years has it been for King Carls "Plan?" What year is it now Chorf fans?

Long live King Carl!!!!

[ol number 7]

I'll repeat it:

Last year at this time, we got our asses handed to us at home by the Bengals. There was almost nothing to be pleased with.

Today we weren't good. But there were bright spots. Herm's always had slow-starting teams. But he consistently makes the playoffs.

Go ahead and count us out. We'll still pound your ass into slag when you visit Arrowhead. That's a guarantee.

Is that the same guarantee like; "Bob will welch." Now that's a guarantee !!

[ZachKC]

It's going to be nice after week 6 or so to be troll free around here.... I guess we'll still have to put up with Charger fan but Faier and Queef fan will be long gone.

Who are you talking about? There are Chiefs fans here win or lose...am I missing something?

What "trolls" won't be here?

[KCStud]

Funny that the Donko fans make fun of the Chiefs when they could barely beat the inexperienced and horrible Bills team.
I thought Cutler was a great QB? Maybe if he was then he would have put more than a TD(no extra points) on a D with no Nate Clements/London Fletcher/Takeo Spikes and rookies like Poz starting out there.

KC is not a very good team this year, but from what I saw today, Denver isn't very good either.

[TexanBob]

I watched the Chiefs' game and the Broncos game with equal attention.

Some points: 1) I expected Mario Williams to have a great game. The Chiefs would either be employing an injured left tackle or his backup. Mario is slowly growing into a force in this league. Today was just another step in his progression. Oh, and Jordan Black is so bad that he can't even beat out Ephraim Salaam for a starting job on the Texans' line.

2) I'll describe the catch and fumble for those who missed it. Huard threw into the flat and the receiver caught it and spun to head upfield. As he spun, the defensive back jarred him and forced the ball out. Mario fell on it then picked it up and ran it in. Herm called the challenge because it was such a huge momentum-swinging play. Sometimes, you have to challenge a borderline call just because it would be huge to have the results overturned.

Part of possession on the field (note to ZackKC, the definition of a catch on the field differs slightly than a catch in the end zone - see Troy Polamalu's overturned interception in the playoffs against the Colts in '05) concerns whether the player could make a "football move" with the ball after gaining "control". In the case of the Chiefs receiver, he planted his foot to turn upfield as he was hit. Personally, it was the type of play that you could argue either way. Since the ruling on the field was that it was a catch and fumble, there needed to be "indisputable visual evidence" to overturn it. I didn't see where it was clearly *not* a catch (i.e. juggling the ball, never had control, etc.). My guess is that had the ruling on the field been an incomplete pass however, that ruling would have also been upheld on challenge - it was that close.

3) Mario Williams has now scored more points this season than Reggie Bush. Oh, and also has more sacks than Bush.

[TexanBob]

I thought Cutler was a great QB? Maybe if he was then he would have put more than a TD(no extra points) on a D with no Nate Clements/London Fletcher/Takeo Spikes and rookies like Poz starting out there.



Take a look at the stat sheet and see how huge the yardage separation was between the Broncos and Bills. Denver outplayed them everywhere but inside the Bills' 20. That's why the score was so close.

Yes, the Bills are terrible. So are the Chiefs.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

I'll repeat it:

Last year at this time, we got our asses handed to us at home by the Bengals. There was almost nothing to be pleased with.

Today we weren't good. But there were bright spots. Herm's always had slow-starting teams. But he consistently makes the playoffs.

Go ahead and count us out. We'll still pound your ass into slag when you visit Arrowhead. That's a guarantee.

Just because you repeat something doesn't make you right. And finding bright spots after a game is something you say during the preseason not during the season.

[24champ]

I thought Cutler was a great QB?

Ya sorry he couldn't put up better stats like the great Huard .....168 yds and 2 INTS! whooooaaaa! Hilarious!

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070909/capt.12fd4490a1d04660937ffdfaac048d1e.chiefs_texan s_football_htt116.jpg

[24champ]

You know your QBs KCDUD!


http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070909/capt.e6785da6fb074db7a2b355966acc0c44.chiefs_texan s_football_htt111.jpg

[boltaneer]

I saw a good amount of the Chiefs game and I know it's early in the season but this team looks like it could contend for the number one pick next year. Losing a game early on is one thing but getting dominated by the Texans? That's a hard pill to swallow.

As for the catch and fumble, I think that play was so difficult to call, whatever ruling on the field was going to stand. Had they called it an incomplete pass, I think it would have stayed an incomplete pass.

The offense is just terrible but what do you expect when your star running back holds out until two weeks ago and your coach plays musical QBs all preseason?

However, I think once Huard and LJ get a couple of more games to get back into sync, this team could win some games like they did last year but by that time, it will probably be too late to salvage the season.

Chief fans have no one to blame but management for the state of this team. An LJ deal should have been done last year and who knows what the hell they were thinking with the Green/Huard/Croyle situation. Whatever it was, they F'd it up big time.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Ya sorry he couldn't put up better stats like the great Huard .....168 yds and 2 INTS! whooooaaaa! Hilarious!

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070909/capt.12fd4490a1d04660937ffdfaac048d1e.chiefs_texan s_football_htt116.jpg

You sound like you didn't even watch the game. One interception came on a perfect pass that the wide receiver batted up into the air. The second came in garbage time when he was throwing a dump pass to the running back and a defensive tackle came off his block and made an amazing diving catch.

Huard would have hit 27 of 33 passes today if our wide receivers/tight ends hadn't dropped five passes. He isn't a problem in the least. The receivers absolutely sucked today.

[KCStud]

You know your QBs KCDUD!


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that's fine with me considering I never hyped them up. on the other hand, we hear about about how great Cutler is and he can't even do anything against a bad Bills defense.

http://http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2007/75557822RS026_DENVER_BRONCO_20070909152213_gallery _600.jpg

[Bob's your Information Minister]

For the record, I predicted we'd lose to the Texans. I saw it coming a mile away.

[Blueflame]

Funny that the Donko fans make fun of the Chiefs when they could barely beat the inexperienced and horrible Bills team.
I thought Cutler was a great QB? Maybe if he was then he would have put more than a TD(no extra points) on a D with no Nate Clements/London Fletcher/Takeo Spikes and rookies like Poz starting out there.

KC is not a very good team this year, but from what I saw today, Denver isn't very good either.

Funny that Chef fan feels superior enough to disparage the Bills team...the numbers say that the Chefs and Bills performed at a remarkably similar level today. Both QBs (Losman and Huard) had a passer rating in the 50s...neither team had more than 220 net offensive yards....both teams were 3 of 11 or 27% on 3rd down...

It wouldn't surprise me to see the two teams end up with similar numbers... somewhere between 5 and 8 wins.

[24champ]

that's fine with me considering I never hyped them up. on the other hand, we hear about about how great Cutler is and he can't even do anything against a bad Bills defense.

http://http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2007/75557822RS026_DENVER_BRONCO_20070909152213_gallery _600.jpg

Ya throwing 300 yards is no big thing is it?:giggle:

[24champ]

You sound like you didn't even watch the game. One interception came on a perfect pass that the wide receiver batted up into the air. The second came in garbage time when he was throwing a dump pass to the running back and a defensive tackle came off his block and made an amazing diving catch.

Huard would have hit 27 of 33 passes today if our wide receivers/tight ends hadn't dropped five passes. He isn't a problem in the least. The receivers absolutely sucked today.

All I read is could've should've, would've etc

One thing we do know is that your team sucks. Question is when are the cheffies going to get their first win? Is Next month too generous? Ha!

[penguintheory]

KC is not a very good team this year, but from what I saw today, Denver isn't very good either.

What did you see, the ESPN scores ticker or the game itself? Because we racked up almost 500 yards of offense on the road, which is no mean feat in the NFL. We also shut down a top WR in Lee Evans. Oh, and we won the game.

What exactly did KC do?

[Florida_Bronco]

For as much as Bob was crowing on about that loss to the Bengals last year, he failed to mention one thing. In that game, Trent Green was knocked out for most of the season is one of the most viscious hits I've ever seen. That instantly takes the wind out of your sails.

KCStud, sometimes I wonder if you think at all before you post. Did you actually watch the game? If you did, you'd see that while this team still has alot of work to do, there is loads of upside there. Cutler played pretty well today and showed why he will become a great QB, Henry got the tough yards and our defense showed alot of improvement.

Now when talking about the Chiefs, their performance was very bad and the team has little upside. Average defense + garbage offense + below average special teams = team in trouble.

[Kaylore]

that's fine with me considering I never hyped them up. on the other hand, we hear about about how great Cutler is and he can't even do anything against a bad Bills defense.

http://http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2007/75557822RS026_DENVER_BRONCO_20070909152213_gallery _600.jpg

:spit: Is there anyone that walks into them any faster than KCSheepstud?

[boltaneer]

I also watched a good amount of the Denver game and while they weren't too impressive to me, it was a hard fought game that went down to the wire and could have gone either way obviously. Winning on the road in the NFL isn't easy, no matter who your opponent is so obviously Denver gets credit for pulling it out in the end.

The Chiefs on the other hand just looked flat out terrible. It's only week one so the Chiefs have a lot of time to turn it around but I don't see it happening. Huard is definitely not the answer for them at QB and this ain't the 2000 Ravens defense so don't look for Huard to pull a Trent Dilfer this year.

Both games turned out about how I expected. I thought the Denver-Buffalo game was going to be close and the Houston-KC game to be a blowout.

[24champ]

:spit: Is there anyone that walks into them any faster than KCSheepstud?

KCDUD is dumber than a bag of rocks.

[Florida_Bronco]

:spit: Is there anyone that walks into them any faster than KCSheepstud?

Seriously! That guy has to be the dumbest poster I've ever seen.

[SoCalBronco]

I also watched a good amount of the Denver game and while they weren't too impressive to me, .

Yeah we werent impressive at all, we only outgained them by almost 300 yards. You can count on one hand how often that happens in an NFL season. For some reason, we had difficulty converting the dominance in terms of carrying the play into points, but make no mistake, Denver whipped Buffalo. 9 times out of 10, when you have this kind of disparaty, you will have a something like a 34-3 game. There were alot of strange things in this game, but if you truly watched it, it is hard to say Denver was not impressive.

[boltaneer]

Yeah we werent impressive at all, we only outgained them by almost 300 yards. You can count on one hand how often that happens in an NFL season. For some reason, we had difficulty converting the dominance in terms of carrying the play into points, but make no mistake, Denver whipped Buffalo. 9 times out of 10, when you have this kind of disparaty, you will have a something like a 34-3 game. There were alot of strange things in this game, but if you truly watched it, it is hard to say Denver was not impressive.

I didn't watch the entire game. Like I said I just watched a good amount. We were splitting time between the DEN-BUF/KC-HOU/CAR-STL games.

IMO Denver lucked one out at the end though it's a bit rare for Elam to miss two FGs like that so it probably shouldn't have come down to that but it did. But I gave Denver credit for winning a game on the road.

[24champ]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/sportsnation/ratings

Hermie with an EXCELLENT 9% Rating!!!!!

[Kaylore]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/sportsnation/ratings

Hermie with an EXCELLENT 9% Rating!!!!!

Jeez, Shanahan has a 67%? What the crap is that about? Pissed off Buffalo fans maybe? When I voted it said he 91%. Must be glitched.

[Blueflame]

I didn't watch the entire game. Like I said I just watched a good amount. We were splitting time between the DEN-BUF/KC-HOU/CAR-STL games.

IMO Denver lucked one out at the end though it's a bit rare for Elam to miss two FGs like that so it probably shouldn't have come down to that but it did. But I gave Denver credit for winning a game on the road.

You should perhaps give Denver credit for nearly 500 yards of offense...the game was much more lopsided than the score might indicate. The Bills "lucked out" that the Broncos made enough mistakes to keep them in the game.

[Odysseus]

You should perhaps give Denver credit for nearly 500 yards of offense...the game was much more lopsided than the score might indicate. The Bills "lucked out" that the Broncos made enough mistakes to keep them in the game.

I agree with you and Socal. Broncos from a score standpoint should be a 30 point team but their lack of punch in the red zone means the Cutler has to put up 600 yards in the air and run nearly 100 yards to get that. The rest of the team needs to stand up. ALL the parts are there to build an effective offense.

[boltaneer]

You should perhaps give Denver credit for nearly 500 yards of offense...the game was much more lopsided than the score might indicate. The Bills "lucked out" that the Broncos made enough mistakes to keep them in the game.

500 yards is nice but you gotta punch it in the end zone more than once when that happens for me to be really impressed. I will say Denver's offense looks better than last year. I want to see how it performs against one of the better defenses first though.

But a win is a win is a win. You guys are just as happy about your win as I am about ours.

[Blueflame]

500 yards is nice but you gotta punch it in the end zone more than once when that happens for me to be really impressed. I will say Denver's offense looks better than last year. I want to see how it performs against one of the better defenses first though.

But a win is a win is a win. You guys are just as happy about your win as I am about ours.

OK, so we agree... the Broncos' offense is gonna be scary-good if they can eliminate some of the mistakes. ;D

[Hulamau]

that's fine with me considering I never hyped them up. on the other hand, we hear about about how great Cutler is and he can't even do anything against a bad Bills defense.

http://http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2007/75557822RS026_DENVER_BRONCO_20070909152213_gallery _600.jpg

Wow .. you really ARE an idiot aren't you?

[azbroncfan]

Funny that the Donko fans make fun of the Chiefs when they could barely beat the inexperienced and horrible Bills team.
I thought Cutler was a great QB? Maybe if he was then he would have put more than a TD(no extra points) on a D with no Nate Clements/London Fletcher/Takeo Spikes and rookies like Poz starting out there.

KC is not a very good team this year, but from what I saw today, Denver isn't very good either.

This is a Queef thread about how bad the queefs suck. Don't change it over to denver because there are plenty of threads about Denver. Back to the subject.....KC is looking at a new coach within the next couple years and a couple top 10 draft picks with top 5 potential. Herm has the ability to take a team over and completely ruin it.

[azbroncfan]

How do you know that is not exactly what is happening? Herm stated in the post-game press conference they tried to complete some deep passes but it just wasn't there.

Because you can see him throwing immediately to his first read. I do realize you have no eye for football but that is very clear he isn't going through his progressions. Just look at his completions and they are mostly RB's and TE's for little yards. That's the sign of a crap QB is when he throws short way too much.

[TailgateNut]

This time next year, we'll all be here chanting 39 years and counting, 39 years and counting, ....................



LOL It couldn't happen to a better crowd of mullet heads! I wonder if they can synchronize their Tomahawk chop with brown paper bags on their heads!

[Rock Chalk]

I saw a good amount of the Chiefs game and I know it's early in the season but this team looks like it could contend for the number one pick next year. Losing a game early on is one thing but getting dominated by the Texans? That's a hard pill to swallow.

I dont know about that. The Texans certainly are no powerhouse but there is no denying that they have improved since Kubes has gotten there. I think they have a real shot at their first winning record this year.

As for the catch and fumble, I think that play was so difficult to call, whatever ruling on the field was going to stand. Had they called it an incomplete pass, I think it would have stayed an incomplete pass.

Dont know what you are talking about, didnt watch that game.

The offense is just terrible but what do you expect when your star running back holds out until two weeks ago and your coach plays musical QBs all preseason?

However, I think once Huard and LJ get a couple of more games to get back into sync, this team could win some games like they did last year but by that time, it will probably be too late to salvage the season.

Chief fans have no one to blame but management for the state of this team. An LJ deal should have been done last year and who knows what the hell they were thinking with the Green/Huard/Croyle situation. Whatever it was, they F'd it up big time.

Haha. Screw the Chiefs.

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

You're all just whistling through the graveyard with Bob as your leader.

Delicious.

[ludo21]

chiefs suck... that is all.

[Paladin]

Poor, poor mullets.......

[400HZ]

Right now I think it's kind of early for anyone to be beating their chests about who beat who. There's a huge variable right now. How good are the Bills? How good are the Bears? How good are the Texans? I was pretty pumped up last year when SD destroyed Oakland 27-0 in the opener, but that turned out to be a pretty meaningless accomplishment. For all we know, Buffalo or Chicago could be a 2-14 team this year and our wins could mean nothing. Houston could be a good team. We'll see down the stretch.

[fontaine]

Right now I think it's kind of early for anyone to be beating their chests about who beat who. There's a huge variable right now. How good are the Bills? How good are the Bears? How good are the Texans? I was pretty pumped up last year when SD destroyed Oakland 27-0 in the opener, but that turned out to be a pretty meaningless accomplishment. For all we know, Buffalo or Chicago could be a 2-14 team this year and our wins could mean nothing. Houston could be a good team. We'll see down the stretch.

I don't know how good the bears are but did anyone else see Tommie Harris repeatedly brutalize the SD line and get through to Rivers? It did look like he was lining up in the neutral zone and bordering false starts but it was hilarious watching Rivers whine and cry on the sidelines to the refs about it.
ROFL!

The SD offense is pretty talented but you expect to see a bit more composure from the starting QB especially when they're in a close game.

[400HZ]

I don't know how good the bears are but did anyone else see Tommie Harris repeatedly brutalize the SD line and get through to Rivers? It did look like he was lining up in the neutral zone and bordering false starts but it was hilarious watching Rivers whine and cry on the sidelines to the refs about it.
ROFL!

The SD offense is pretty talented but you expect to see a bit more composure from the starting QB especially when they're in a close game.

The composure came from completing 12 of his next 14 and putting some points up. It was a pretty blatant non-call and I would be disappointed if my QB hadn't gotten pissed off.

[Man-Goblin]

I don't know how good the bears are but did anyone else see Tommie Harris repeatedly brutalize the SD line and get through to Rivers? It did look like he was lining up in the neutral zone and bordering false starts but it was hilarious watching Rivers whine and cry on the sidelines to the refs about it.
ROFL!

The SD offense is pretty talented but you expect to see a bit more composure from the starting QB especially when they're in a close game.

The whole Bears line was jumping the count all day. The announcers did a good job of pointing out that there may be a tell in Rivers snap count. Makes me kinda want to play him in poker. If anyone wants to stake me shoot me a PM.

[fontaine]

The composure came from completing 12 of his next 14 and putting some points up. It was a pretty blatant non-call and I would be disappointed if my QB hadn't gotten pissed off.

Like I said your offense is talented, no doubt about it.

But having your leader, the QB, whining up and down and shouting, screaming at the refs is pretty weak.

Maybe in time he'll mature.

[KCStud]

Seriously! That guy has to be the dumbest poster I've ever seen.

OMG let's hype up Cutler because he can get us passing yards! Forget the fact that he can't do anything in the redzone! Championship here we come!!!Hilarious! Hilarious!

[TailgateNut]

Like I said your offense is talented, no doubt about it.

But having your leader, the QB, whining up and down and shouting, screaming at the refs is pretty weak.

Maybe in time he'll mature.


Well said. Rivers has shown some childish traits. He may be upset that the league isn't giving him the same benefit/respect they give Peyton when he gets his panties bunched in a wad!

[dumpy]

OMG let's hype up Cutler because he can get us passing yards! Forget the fact that he can't do anything in the redzone! Championship here we come!!!Hilarious! Hilarious!

Um, he did throw one TD in the red zone. He also had 2 fourth down conversions on the final drive. I know it's no Grbac to Lake Dawson combination in the final seconds, but give him some credit.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

OMG let's hype up Cutler because he can get us passing yards! Forget the fact that he can't do anything in the redzone! Championship here we come!!!Hilarious! Hilarious!Are you one of the dumb dipsh*ts that CP banned for not being able to keep up with the camero on blocks crowd over there?

[55CrushEm]

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ROFL! LOL Hilarious! Ha!

That look is priceless!! Ha!

[theAPAOps5]

OMG let's hype up Cutler because he can get us passing yards! Forget the fact that he can't do anything in the redzone! Championship here we come!!!Hilarious! Hilarious!

Wow you have so much to stand on what with that 3 point win, er wait. Once again you prove yourself to be the great KCDud.

[Florida_Bronco]

OMG let's hype up Cutler because he can get us passing yards! Forget the fact that he can't do anything in the redzone! Championship here we come!!!Hilarious! Hilarious!

Thank you for proving my point. Now that you've made yourself look like a complete tool...again...I'd like to remind you that we're talking about the Chiefs here, who are full of suck.

Oh and I'd just like to add that you and every other Chiefs fan would KILL to have Jay Cutler. :welcome:

[theAPAOps5]

Herm must just be disgusted that Houston ran up the points like they did. I mean come on games are supposed to 6-3 types. I bet he is calling the league offices right now.

[Mediator12]

Right now I think it's kind of early for anyone to be beating their chests about who beat who. There's a huge variable right now. How good are the Bills? How good are the Bears? How good are the Texans? I was pretty pumped up last year when SD destroyed Oakland 27-0 in the opener, but that turned out to be a pretty meaningless accomplishment. For all we know, Buffalo or Chicago could be a 2-14 team this year and our wins could mean nothing. Houston could be a good team. We'll see down the stretch.

The first week W/L does not mean much, but the underlying performances are good indicators of what the teams can really do this year. I think Denver played another poor opener with a ton of mistakes, but unlike previous years they destroyed the bills on almost every play outside of ST's which is the ONLY reason that game was close. DEN was very sloppy, dropped some balls, missed a bunch of tackles, missed a bunch of cutback lanes, and still put up 470 yards and allowed only 184. That is awesome news. They played very inconsistent, got a road win, and executed much better on both sides of the ball in preseason.

The chiefs had absolutely nothing to be happy about in any phase of the game. They gained 219 meager yards and surrendered an average 315 yards. The passing game was only getting 4.1 YPA and the running game was feast or famine to get the 4.2 YPA. It's really bad when your YPA is higher rushing than passing. Their defense was OK, but not good against a ball control offense surrendering 9-14-64% on third down. Watching the game, they just looked average with little playmaking ability and more untimely errors.

In the end, SD came away with a win where they could easily have lost without a little luck as well. They only had 263 yards and LT was totally held in check on the ground. Three late second half timely TO's gave SD all its points. The defense played outstanding and bailed out the sputtering offense and that was the difference. CHI defense is for real and their offense is poor against good defenses and SD is a top 4 group.

Raiders were MUCH better versus DET and DET played very well on their OL. I think the Raiders are going to be a lot more competitive than last year, while their defense may be a little less stingy, especially against the pass.

Overall, you learn enough the opening week to see what teams are capable of in live action. It is just not definitive of the entire capabilities for a couple more weeks. I think the Chiefs offense is in a world of trouble, their defense is not good enough to make up for it, and their ST's have dropped dramtically since 2005. The Chargers still have some growing pains with the new staff, but are still dominant on defense and very good offensively. DEN was inconsistent and inefficient at times, but still dominated in every way except their biggest nemesis of ST's. OAK looked much better everywhere on offense, but are still a long way away from being good. Defense was exposed a little, but Ryan is good enough to amke some changes and should not be too bad.

[Mediator12]

OMG let's hype up Cutler because he can get us passing yards! Forget the fact that he can't do anything in the redzone! Championship here we come!!!Hilarious! Hilarious!

Again, you prove you have no insight into football here. Look at the YPA and field position before you look even more like a wishful thinker. Plus, Jay had five dropped passes, just like the Chiefs yesterday that would have made his numbers even more impressive.

Jay had 6.1 YPA and had a bad game. He also had 3 rushing first downs and drove the team down the field for the winning FG attempt twice in the fourth quarter. He also had a perfect fade route TD pass. Only the third fade route in 4 seasons to score in the red zone.

Now, go home and weep and deny that Jay is just not that good. He had a poor game and still threw for 300. If Huard throws for 250 once this year, it would be surprising and his best game ever.

[sixtimeseight]

OMG let's hype up Cutler because he can get us passing yards! Forget the fact that he can't do anything in the redzone! Championship here we come!!!Hilarious! Hilarious!


168 yards, 2 int.

Are you through?

[Darkhawk24]

Since KC didn't play the Broncos. I got to enjoy watching the Chiefs. The Chiefs offense was anemic. They couldn't hang onto the ball and muster any sort of drive. The defense didn't do that bad outside of biting on the play action pass to Andre Johnson and that 10 minute drive in the fourth. Their Special Teams was almost as bad as ours. I'll be shocked if this team ranks ahead of the Raiders this year.

[KCStud]

Thank you for proving my point. Now that you've made yourself look like a complete tool...again...I'd like to remind you that we're talking about the Chiefs here, who are full of suck.

Oh and I'd just like to add that you and every other Chiefs fan would KILL to have Jay Cutler. :welcome:

KC is not very good. I never made them out to be. I never said they would have a winning record or go to the playoffs.
Meanwhile we hear about how Cutler is the prototypical QB who is gonna dominate, but yet he has trouble getting TD's in the red zone against a below average defense.

Jay Cutler wouldn't make a difference in KC. He would be on his back 2 seconds after the snap.

LMAO at everybody who thinks Cutler is gonna be a pro bowler :rofl:

[Florida_Bronco]

KC is not very good. I never made them out to be. I never said they would have a winning record or go to the playoffs.

I bet I can find posts of yours contradicting that. It'll have to wait though, as I am at work.

Meanwhile we hear about how Cutler is the prototypical QB who is gonna dominate He is, and probably will.

but yet he has trouble getting TD's in the red zone against a below average defense. I didn't see Jay having too much trouble in the redzone. The team did, but nothing I'd lay on Jay's doorstep.

Jay Cutler wouldn't make a difference in KC. His physical talent alone would be an upgrade over any QB you've had in decades.

He would be on his back 2 seconds after the snap. How can Huard and Croyle survive in that offense, yet Cutler would be on his back in 2 seconds? ???

LMAO at everybody who thinks Cutler is gonna be a pro bowler :rofl:
Keep laughing, we all know you are very worried about facing Cutler.

[DenverBrit]

KC is not very good. I never made them out to be. I never said they would have a winning record or go to the playoffs.
Meanwhile we hear about how Cutler is the prototypical QB who is gonna dominate, but yet he has trouble getting TD's in the red zone against a below average defense.

Jay Cutler wouldn't make a difference in KC. He would be on his back 2 seconds after the snap.

LMAO at everybody who thinks Cutler is gonna be a pro bowler :rofl:

What a bitter little Troll you are.
KC is a hapless team with little to cheer about, so you're trying to spread your misery.
Run along and stop making an a$$ of yourself!

[bombay]

Gives me a nice, warm glow to see how suck the chefs really are this season.

[Kaylore]

KC is not very good. I never made them out to be. I never said they would have a winning record or go to the playoffs.
Meanwhile we hear about how Cutler is the prototypical QB who is gonna dominate, but yet he has trouble getting TD's in the red zone against a below average defense.

Jay Cutler wouldn't make a difference in KC. He would be on his back 2 seconds after the snap.

LMAO at everybody who thinks Cutler is gonna be a pro bowler :rofl:

I think you know he's going to be good and are jealous. I would be too if I was you.

[sixtimeseight]

What a bitter little Troll you are.


qft. kcstud and kmartin are two of the saddest sacks of **** i've ever seen.

[broncofan2438]

Chiefs Suck

[ZachKC]

It's going to be nice after week 6 or so to be troll free around here.... I guess we'll still have to put up with Charger fan but Faier and Queef fan will be long gone.

Who are you talking about? There are Chiefs fans here win or lose...am I missing something?

What "trolls" won't be here?



*Clears throat*

[Odysseus]

You're all just whistling through the graveyard with Bob as your leader.

Delicious.

Ha! Aw geez that imagine is going to leave a mark.

[KCStud]

I bet I can find posts of yours contradicting that. It'll have to wait though, as I am at work.

Go ahead. I haven't hyped KC up. Never said they would be in the playoffs or have a winning record.

He is, and probably will.

Not from what I have seen.

I didn't see Jay having too much trouble in the redzone. The team did, but nothing I'd lay on Jay's doorstep.

And Jay is supposed to be the leader of the offense.

His physical talent alone would be an upgrade over any QB you've had in decades.

Hilarious! Trent Green was a very good QB for KC. Pro Bowler who had the 2nd most amount of pass yards to Manning over 5 years. I would take Trent of 4 years ago over Cutler anyday.

How can Huard and Croyle survive in that offense, yet Cutler would be on his back in 2 seconds? ???[/QUOTE]


Keep laughing, we all know you are very worried about facing Cutler.

I actually can't wait. He is a good QB, but he is not GREAT like everybody makes him out to be.

[KCStud]

I think you know he's going to be good and are jealous. I would be too if I was you.

I think he will be a good QB, but not a GREAT QB like many on here proclaim.
That so called "high powered offense" you saw in preseason could only muster 1 TD and FG's against the Bills of all teams and their defense sucks now.

[Kaylore]

ROFL! I love KCSheepStud. It's like not even fair when he tries to talk smack. He's like Bob at a very young age and with less creativity...and no fanny pack.Ha!

[bombay]

Hilarious! Trent Green was a very good QB for KC. Pro Bowler who had the 2nd most amount of pass yards to Manning over 5 years. I would take Trent of 4 years ago over Cutler anyday.



Your ignorance is annoying. A pro bowler is a guy who bowls for a living. A probowler plays football in Hawaii in February.

[TheChamp24]

Wow, just wow. We need KCStud to come back every weak and talk his smack. This is hilarious stuff!

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

qft. kcstud and kmartin are two of the saddest sacks of **** i've ever seen.

Just a couple of turds that floated to the top of Bob's bowl

[SoDak Bronco]

Maybe you can find your QB of the future with this coming years draft. You should be in prime position to take anyone you want. congrads , your team is horrible.

[NaptownChief]

Maybe you can find your QB of the future with this coming years draft. You should be in prime position to take anyone you want. congrads , your team is horrible.


If I were a Bolt, Donk or Faider fan I would be pulling like heck for the Chiefs to pick it up a little bit and do their usual mid-pack finish. Cause then they will keep rolling status quo and never be a threat to anyone.

However the way it looks right now is absolutely the best thing possible for the Chiefs future. They should go 4-12 or worse. And that is what it probably would take to get Clark Hunt off his duff to flush Squirm Edwards, Carl Peterson and the entire front office. Not to mention put them in position to draft Brian Brohm to work with the new coaching staff.

Under those circumstances the Chiefs franchise might actually have some hope. That is far more than they have currently.

I would like to see 0-16 as that is what they deserve for being dumb enough to trade a 4th round pick for a terrible coach who was going to get fired anyway.

[theAPAOps5]

Once again Nappy proves why he is the best rival poster from KC. I agree it would be nice to keep them in the 7-9 and 8-8 range. Its much harder to retool than to redraft. I totally forgot they actually traded a pick for Hermy. Sad just really sad.

[TheChamp24]

If I were a Bolt, Donk or Faider fan I would be pulling like heck for the Chiefs to pick it up a little bit and do their usual mid-pack finish. Cause then they will keep rolling status quo and never be a threat to anyone.

However the way it looks right now is absolutely the best thing possible for the Chiefs future. They should go 4-12 or worse. And that is what it probably would take to get Clark Hunt off his duff to flush Squirm Edwards, Carl Peterson and the entire front office. Not to mention put them in position to draft Brian Brohm to work with the new coaching staff.

Under those circumstances the Chiefs franchise might actually have some hope. That is far more than they have currently.

I would like to see 0-16 as that is what they deserve for being dumb enough to trade a 4th round pick for a terrible coach who was going to get fired anyway.


Well, last time the Chiefs had a top 10 pick they landed the great Ryan Sims....

[Atwater His Ass]

Perfect world would be chefs landing top 10 talent and having said talent bust whilst losing millions of dollars in the process.

[Greybeard]

The defense played quite well...they gave up 7 points.

The offense was dead set on putting them in bad positions....turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. A really rough call killed any momentum we had for good late the game. I am still surprised that the play stood but that is the game.

WRs need to hold on to the ball. It was a weird game...just stupid **** at horrible times kept the drives from happening. The line played better than I though they would...gave up a few sacks but from start to finish they kept the pressure of pretty well.

They need to focus and prepare better...I don't think the final score indicated how the game went down but the Texans deserved it no doubt. Schaub did what he needed too. And at the pivotal points in the game they made things happen when the Chiefs couldn't.
Oh, was that the Chiefs' offense out there?

They were doing such a good job stopping drives, I thought that was their defense. Hilarious!

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[Florida_Bronco]

Go ahead. I haven't hyped KC up. Never said they would be in the playoffs or have a winning record. We'll see about that. I leave work soon, so I'll check when I get home.

Not from what I have seen. And we all know how dead on your analysis is.

And Jay is supposed to be the leader of the offense. He is, but he's still just 1 guy.

Hilarious! Trent Green was a very good QB for KC. Pro Bowler who had the 2nd most amount of pass yards to Manning over 5 years. He also had an extremely powerful offense around him and hasn't performed so well with more average offenses.

I would take Trent of 4 years ago over Cutler anyday. And thats why you don't own an NFL franchise.

I actually can't wait. He is a good QB, but he is not GREAT like everybody makes him out to be. He's started 6 games, played very well in most of them and has shown all the tools to be great. And for someone who got their panties in such a wad over us judging Croyle so soon, you're doing the exact same thing with Cutler.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Anyone that would take Trent Green over Jay Cutler is insane.

[KCStud]

Anyone that would take Trent Green over Jay Cutler is insane.

Not now of course, but the 03 version of Trent is better IMO. Jay still makes mistakes that young QB's tend to make.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Not now of course, but the 03 version of Trent is better IMO. Jay still makes mistakes that young QB's tend to make.

Maybe for one game.

[Blueflame]

The '03 version of Trent Green was a "journeyman" QB... serviceable behind a stellar O-line, but certainly not among the league's "elite" passers. Cutler in '07 may not yet be among the league's elite either... however, he has the potential to attain that one day. Green didn't.

[baja]

This thread has classic written all over it

A good move by Popps to come up with a shinny object thread to lure the Chief fan here and away from the really important threads.

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[Malcontent]

This thread has classic written all over it

A good move by Popps to come up with a shinny object thread to lure the Chief fan here and away from the really important threads.

Zackly baja...Lets hope all the trolls all stay in this thread like...forever. :approve:

[epicSocialism4tw]

Mario Williams is a monster.

What a game from the youngster.

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