Cutler IS the Franchise!!!!!

[fontaine]

Let me start off by saying that Cutler is it.

He's the guy we've been missing all this time. The final piece of the puzzle. With Shanahan we'll always be competive, but with Cutler we can go to the dizzying heights of the NFL.

Yes he's a bit jumpy, yes he's got that young cocky arrogance that gets him in trouble at times (flip to Selvin Young, not throwing it away when multiple tacklers gathered), but in terms of pure passing brilliance he made ALL the throws necessary.

I saw ONE throw that I disagreed with and that was the long bomb in the 4th to Walker which was almost intercepted when Marshall was open on a crossing route at the fifty but I'm been picky here. He was throwing bullets accurately under pressure and most importantly, he ran long drives on his shoulders, on his back without necessarily running the ball. That quality is rare as stardust in the NFL. Because most QBs are cocky and arrogant, you have to be in the NFL. But very, very few NFL QBs have the skills to back that up. What I saw from Cutler today was genuine skill under pressure. You either have it (Cutler) or you don't (Losman).

I saw Shanahan laughing and joking with him on the sidelines even when Cutler made mistakes. I know how he feels. Even if we had lost this game I would have been laughing because finally, friends one and all, WE HAVE A QUARTERBACK!

[OrangeShadow]

well duh.

[SDBroncos]

Right On Bro!

[SleepingTiger]

Anyone notice he kept throwing on his back foot. Good thing he has the arm to complete those passes.

Overall, that was a great comeback.

[Willynowei]

He can really throw that football. And he made very good reads today. But a few times when we got down to the endzone, all that went out the window and he got excited on a few plays.

Also, he needs to stop shoving it down Walkers throat all day when Marshall is wide open on the other side.

[rovolution]

i love the way Cutler utilizes Stokely and and actually GOES THROUGH PROGESSIONS!!!

Plummer was lock on Smith, lock on Putz, and then get sacked or switch to the left hand.

Cutler was spinning around, making guys miss sacks, throwing with accuracy off the back foot. Incredible. Ups and Downs, but that is to be expected. B. Marsh is a beast, T. henry is a beast, javon is a beast, Stokely is a beast...




His new nickname: Jesus Christ Jay Cutler.


PS: did anyone see Tommy Nalen just F***ing with the rookie Polusny(sp) by pushing him around after the plays? Welcome to the NFL rookie.

[bfoflcommish]

Let me start off by saying that Cutler is it.

He's the guy we've been missing all this time. The final piece of the puzzle. With Shanahan we'll always be competive, but with Cutler we can go to the dizzying heights of the NFL.

Yes he's a bit jumpy, yes he's got that young cocky arrogance that gets him in trouble at times (flip to Selvin Young, not throwing it away when multiple tacklers gathered), but in terms of pure passing brilliance he made ALL the throws necessary.

I saw ONE throw that I disagreed with and that was the long bomb in the 4th to Walker which was almost intercepted when Marshall was open on a crossing route at the fifty but I'm been picky here. He was throwing bullets accurately under pressure and most importantly, he ran long drives on his shoulders, on his back without necessarily running the ball. That quality is rare as stardust in the NFL. Because most QBs are cocky and arrogant, you have to be in the NFL. But very, very few NFL QBs have the skills to back that up. What I saw from Cutler today was genuine skill under pressure. You either have it (Cutler) or you don't (Losman).

I saw Shanahan laughing and joking with him on the sidelines even when Cutler made mistakes. I know how he feels. Even if we had lost this game I would have been laughing because finally, friends one and all, WE HAVE A QUARTERBACK!



you saw just 1 throw you disagreed with?


hmmmmm

so you liked the shovel pass to nowhere, and the backwards pass to the otherside of the field? That was a great interception throw going into half too.



Sure he looked good on some throw, he also look bad on others.

[chrisp]

I don't disagree with the overall assessment of Cutler, but i have to say he played a bit like jake Plummer today. there were at least two or three balls that just should not have been thrown.

Now that's a little more acceptable from a 2nd-year player in his 6th start than a 10-year vet so the comparison ends there, but there were several plays where he should have just taken the sack instead of trying to make something happen, and we very nearly paid the price.

At the end of the day we got more than double the yards they did so we should have got more than double the points, although to be fair but for a lights-out performance from the Buffalo special teams we probably would have done.

Euphoric about the win, obviously, and considering our recent history of first-day jitters a welcome turn-up, however i think we can all agree that whilst Cutler's potential continues to shine, he's not there just yet.

[DukeWoody]

If we can aquire a couple more quality offensive linmen in the near future and give JC a little more protection and time, his potential will be without limits...

[Rock Chalk]

Nevermind that he looked a lot like Jake Plummer on no less than 5 plays, one of which damn near cost us the game except that Selvin Young is much smarter than Cutler.

[Sodak]

I saw him throw more than one pass behind the receiver. He was way off the first half, and then half-off the second. But, we WON!

Great game.

[Popps]

Nevermind that he looked a lot like Jake Plummer on no less than 5 plays, one of which damn near cost us the game except that Selvin Young is much smarter than Cutler.

Dude, if Jay hadn't made the last throw to set up Elam's kick... people would be roasting him alive around here.

He's going to be the 2nd best QB in franchise history. Just a matter of time. But, he's got work to do. That throwing off the back foot nonsense has to stop. Do we have a friggin' QB coach?

Jay will keep himself out of trouble with his arm strength, for now. Eventually... his mind will catch up with his physical skills. Then, it's game-on.

[Taco John]

Nevermind that he looked a lot like Jake Plummer on no less than 5 plays, one of which damn near cost us the game except that Selvin Young is much smarter than Cutler.



We'd have lost that game if Plummer was in there, and you know it.

[broncocalijohn]

Nevermind that he looked a lot like Jake Plummer on no less than 5 plays, one of which damn near cost us the game except that Selvin Young is much smarter than Cutler.


Right on! That was Jake-esque and of course opening day too! But, Cutler drove us not once but twice for the winning score. It is sweet to have a great line to run with and of course Javon Walker. Dude gets what looked like whip lash on a catch and still comes back to make two MVP plays. Kudos to Cutler and the whole team. Elam saved his goatness but not downing the ball to give him time I guess what to not let him think about it. And let us not forget about that stellar Lee Evans game. I think it was 2 catches for 5 yards. Good D. Lynch had one great run and was average after that. I will take it!

[BigPlayShay]

He has all the tools. It was only his 6th game. He will probably make young mistakes all year, but as long as he can overcome them as he did today all should be well in Broncos Country.

[Fedaykin]

****. a couple of rook mistakes and ya'll are getting twitchy. What Jay did today is what Plummer never did for us.

He made 23 good throws, he evaded sacks and made plays, and most importantly he delivered on 3rd and 4th downs.

For sure, he has a lot to learn, but that's espected. He's really still a rookie.

[OrangeShadow]

We'd have lost that game if Plummer was in there

no question about it

[fontaine]

I don't disagree with the overall assessment of Cutler, but i have to say he played a bit like jake Plummer today. there were at least two or three balls that just should not have been thrown.


Plummer would have sh*t his pants today and thrown his token opening day 3 ints followed up by 2 fumbles.

Now that's a little more acceptable from a 2nd-year player in his 6th start than a 10-year vet so the comparison ends there, but there were several plays where he should have just taken the sack instead of trying to make something happen, and we very nearly paid the price.

You said it. He's a 2nd year player, playing in his 6th game in the NFL? Yes he's trying to do too much.

But when he had time in the pocket he made throw after throw after throw, in pressure situations and throw the ball in a tight spiral right on the money.

[Rigs11]

Cutler looked nervous as hell today. He put the ball up for grabs way too many times and needs to learn to take the sack instead of running around like a chicken with his head cut off.That 'plummer pass' was hilarious.

[fontaine]

Nevermind that he looked a lot like Jake Plummer on no less than 5 plays

Yeah well, the problem was that Joke Plummer looked like himself ALL THE TIME.

If our first round QB can only look like Jake just five plays per game then we've improved our QB situation ten fold (as opposed to Jake looking like a jacka$$ all the time last year).

[TheDave]

This is the biggest difference between Cutler and Plummer. Cutler has enough physical talent to make up for his bonehead plays... Plummer, well he's retired.

This kid has the ability to be special... It's going to be fun watching Alec become a Cutler Fan.

Seriously Alec... Jump on the bandwagon, this could be fun :thumbs:

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Cutler's performance today reminded me of the greatest QB to ever play the game when he came into the league. Fantastic throws and plays and then oh sh*t. But anyone who can't see the upside to Cutler doesn't understand the game.

[fontaine]

Cutler looked nervous as hell today. He put the ball up for grabs way too many times and needs to learn to take the sack instead of running around like a chicken with his head cut off.That 'plummer pass' was hilarious.

Tell me when he threw the ball up for grabs? Name specific instances because I saw passes that were right on the money, in the WRs hands where only they could get it.

I remember one to Walker when Javon had to pry the ball loose and save the int.

But if you're b*tching about passes he made in the 4th then grow up. The game was on the line and Shanny called Cutler to bail us out so he was FORCED to throw those passes and the Bills KNEW IT and he still got us there.

When was the last time a Denver QB made completion after completion under pressure with the game on the line, away from home when we HAD to pass and the D knew it?

[DB-Freak]

Yea, he played a bit like plummer expect his arm made the big difference.

[cdesignmaster]

We'd have lost that game if Plummer was in there, and you know it.

You're a real Schmuck if you believe that. Plummer wasn't great, but this game should have been over with by half-time and Plummer could have done that. Cutler made all the mistakes that we all expected him to make. Cutler came through in the end, and that's a positive to which we can all continue to believe in the future of the Broncos. Cutler is going to be very good and maybe even the best, but those flat out poorly thrown interceptions in the Red Zone, or tripping over his own feet, tossing under hand passes to nobody, or worse yet, flipping a backwards pass to nobody isn't greatestness. Yeah, Plummer did all those things, but not in one game. It's one thing for you to not like Plummer, it's another thing to be Stupid at the same time.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Nevermind that he looked a lot like Jake Plummer on no less than 5 plays, one of which damn near cost us the game except that Selvin Young is much smarter than Cutler.
You Plummer fans don't have much to brag about when it comes to "smarts".

[OrangeShadow]

You're a real Schmuck if you believe that. Plummer wasn't great, but this game should have been over with by half-time and Plummer could have done that. Cutler made all the mistakes that we all expected him to make. Cutler came through in the end, and that's a positive to which we can all continue to believe in the future of the Broncos. Cutler is going to be very good and maybe even the best, but those flat out poorly thrown interceptions in the Red Zone, or tripping over his own feet, tossing under hand passes to nobody, or worse yet, flipping a backwards pass to nobody isn't greatestness. Yeah, Plummer did all those things, but not in one game. It's one thing for you to not like Plummer, it's another thing to be Stupid at the same time.

you seriously think plummer could of won this game for us? you're nuts :rofl:

[fontaine]

You're a real Schmuck if you believe that. Plummer wasn't great, but this game should have been over with by half-time and Plummer could have done that. Cutler made all the mistakes that we all expected him to make. Cutler came through in the end, and that's a positive to which we can all continue to believe in the future of the Broncos. Cutler is going to be very good and maybe even the best, but those flat out poorly thrown interceptions in the Red Zone, or tripping over his own feet, tossing under hand passes to nobody, or worse yet, flipping a backwards pass to nobody isn't greatestness. Yeah, Plummer did all those things, but not in one game. It's one thing for you to not like Plummer, it's another thing to be Stupid at the same time.

I think in his last three openers for Denver, Plummer had what 10 turnovers?

So not only are you wrong, but hilariously so.

[fontaine]

You Plummer fans don't have much to brag about when it comes to "smarts".

Even when it looked like he was making a smart decision by retiring, he fugged it up by flip flopping and lying to Mike when we got that trade.

[backup qb]

Tell me when he threw the ball up for grabs? Name specific instances because I saw passes that were right on the money, in the WRs hands where only they could get it.

I remember one to Walker when Javon had to pry the ball loose and save the int.

But if you're b*tching about passes he made in the 4th then grow up. The game was on the line and Shanny called Cutler to bail us out so he was FORCED to throw those passes and the Bills KNEW IT and he still got us there.

When was the last time a Denver QB made completion after completion under pressure with the game on the line, away from home when we HAD to pass and the D knew it?
well said\

[Northman]

Got to love the Jake Homers who are trying yet again to compare a 10 year vet to a 2nd year Qb. And as already pointed out, Jay did what Jake couldnt and that was get the team in a position to win in the end something the "Snake" failed to do a number of times. I cant wait till Jay is well seasoned, he is going to tear this league apart.

[NYBronco]

Dude, if Jay hadn't made the last throw to set up Elam's kick... people would be roasting him alive around here.

I would be looking at Elam's two previous missed FG's and the near miss before I would even consider Cutler.

[Northman]

I would be looking at Elam's two previous missed FG's and the near miss before I would even consider Cutler.

Exactly.

[Popps]

Cutler looked like "bad Jake" out there today. Again, the difference... he's got an arm that can get him out of trouble when he needs it.

The other difference... if Jay settles down, his upside is almost limitless, whereas Jake had marginal physical tools.

One thing Jake DID have that Cutler needs to work on is pocket awareness. Some of that is instinct, but some I think has to be developed.

Like I said, Plummer is gone and Jay is the man now... and he's going to be a star. People just need to give him some time.

The only thing that's blatantly obvious about the entire QB situation is that the QB was only a small portion of what ails this team. We saw more proof of that today.

[fontaine]

Got to love the Jake Homers who are trying yet again to compare a 10 year vet to a 2nd year Qb. And as already pointed out, Jay did what Jake couldnt and that was get the team in a position to win in the end something the "Snake" failed to do a number of times. I cant wait till Jay is well seasoned, he is going to tear this league apart.

Not once but TWICE. Remember Elam missing 43 yarder (with no wind) that would have put us over the top with 3:43 left to go?

Cutler delivered twice for us today.

I can't remember Jake delivering for us twice in ONE season let alone one game.

[alkemical]

**** plummer. He's gone and he's done. Thank god. I appreciate having at least hope to win a game instead of waiting waiting for a jake special.

[Rohirrim]

I don't know. The QB Cutler most reminds me of is Elway. I remember Elway playing pretty much the same way Cutler is playing now. Cocky. Sometimes over confident. Pulling his nuts out of the fire at the last second with sheer talent. Overcoming broken plays. Throwing the occasional bone head pass. Completely forgetting the FU by the next snap. ETC. Very similar.

[Popps]

I would be looking at Elam's two previous missed FG's and the near miss before I would even consider Cutler.

Exactly. Jay had an erratic game, but you have to look at TEAM performance.

Just glad we got out with a W. Might have been the most exciting opening game I've ever seen, even if sloppy.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Cutler looked like "bad Jake" out there today. No, he looked like John when he came into the league. great plays, throws and oh sh*ts. Plummer he DIDN'T look like.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Anybody ever notice that if you remove the "ke" from "Jake" and add the "y" from "Jay"...you have "key"...as in "Cutler's the key".

OK...sorry 'bout that... ;D

[Rock Chalk]

We'd have lost that game if Plummer was in there, and you know it.

WHo said we would have won? Who said "If Plummer" were in or anything?

All I said is that on no less than 5 plays Jay Culter looked like Jake Plummer. It shouldnt surprise you, since every QB we have put on the field since John Elway retired has had their "Jake Plummer" plays. Aka the idiot QB play.

Brian Griese's fumble in Miami for instance or pass or whatever the hell that was. Pretty much all of Danny Ks career on the field except against New England, and most of Steve Bs time on the field to Jake Plummer himself and his infamous left handed throws.

Cutler has that same disease. Lets hope its not serious and with medicine goes away because I dont know if I can handle 3 more years of never knowing when the idiot QB disease will pop up.

Conversely, Cutler was mostly full of awesome today. I dont like his back foot throwing at all and commented to my wife that "more often than not, that pass he just completed will get picked off" and it did right after that in the red zone then it ALMOST did again later.

After he settled down though he really was pretty fluid and I never said anything to the contrary.

You and the rest of the suck off crew can settle down.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

WHo said we would have won? Who said "If Plummer" were in or anything?

All I said is that on no less than 5 plays Jay Culter looked like Jake Plummer. It shouldnt surprise you, since every QB we have put on the field since John Elway retired has had their "Jake Plummer" plays. Aka the idiot QB play.

Brian Griese's fumble in Miami for instance or pass or whatever the hell that was. Pretty much all of Danny Ks career on the field except against New England, and most of Steve Bs time on the field to Jake Plummer himself and his infamous left handed throws.

Cutler has that same disease. Lets hope its not serious and with medicine goes away because I dont know if I can handle 3 more years of never knowing when the idiot QB disease will pop up.

Conversely, Cutler was mostly full of awesome today. I dont like his back foot throwing at all and commented to my wife that "more often than not, that pass he just completed will get picked off" and it did right after that in the red zone then it ALMOST did again later.

After he settled down though he really was pretty fluid and I never said anything to the contrary.

You and the rest of the suck off crew can settle down.Your ignorance in comparing Cutler to Plummer shows the extent of your football knowledge. You can always root for someone else if you can't stand the Broncos with Cutler.

[Rohirrim]

When Cutler slipped that Kelsay sack and zipped that completion across his body, I said to myself, "That was pure Elway." I've never seen Cutler look like either Griese, of Jake. Way too much talent and arm for that comparison.

[Garcia Bronco]

Cutler did have some Plummer moments today...

[Darkdoc]

Only the first game of the season (and the day isn't over, and Monday games to be played), but...

Cutlers's 304 yds and Henry's 139 yds are both leading the league.

It at least suggests we have a great deal to look forward to this year.

It also suggests they need to figure out how to turn these performances from great stats into mucho points.

[Fedaykin]

Yeah. If Cutler is still having "Plummer Moments" (aka ROOKIE mistakes) 10 years from now, a legit comparison can be made. Until then.. it's insane to try to compare the two's mistakes.

[fontaine]

Cutler has that same disease. Lets hope its not serious and with medicine goes away because I dont know if I can handle 3 more years of never knowing when the idiot QB disease will pop up.

Conversely, Cutler was mostly full of awesome today. I dont like his back foot throwing at all and commented to my wife that "more often than not, that pass he just completed will get picked off" and it did right after that in the red zone then it ALMOST did again later.

After he settled down though he really was pretty fluid and I never said anything to the contrary.

You and the rest of the suck off crew can settle down.

1. Cutler had to throw off he back foot a bunch of times because there was a defender in his face and he couldn't plant forward (ie the screen we ran early in the 2nd).

2. If you can't handle 3 more years, well then you wouldn't be much of a fan. After suffering the Griese/Plummer years, trust me, this is going to be much more fun and I know you're too much of a whiny, stubborn a$$ to pack it in Alec!
:wiggle:

[rovolution]

Only the first game of the season (and the day isn't over, and Monday games to be played), but...

Cutlers's 304 yds and Henry's 139 yds are both leading the league.



A little incorrect. Chris Brown is leading the league in rushing for this week so far, w/ 179 yrds.

[fontaine]

A little incorrect. Chris Brown is leading the league in rushing for this week so far, w/ 179 yrds.

Man, really wanted to give this guy a chance in our offense considering in the offseason he was unemployed for months and could have been gotten for dirt cheap.

Can't believe Tenn ran ALL over Jax for 200 yards.

[lazarus4444]

I was impressed with Cutler, impressed with the Broncos as a whole. Thank god we got that east coast road opener monkey off our backs, in style too!

[Rigs11]

Tell me when he threw the ball up for grabs? Name specific instances because I saw passes that were right on the money, in the WRs hands where only they could get it.

I remember one to Walker when Javon had to pry the ball loose and save the int.

But if you're b*tching about passes he made in the 4th then grow up. The game was on the line and Shanny called Cutler to bail us out so he was FORCED to throw those passes and the Bills KNEW IT and he still got us there.

When was the last time a Denver QB made completion after completion under pressure with the game on the line, away from home when we HAD to pass and the D knew it?

What a homer. Let's see there was the INT , and three other plays where he put it up for grabs, if the bills hold onto those balls he would have had three INT's. Once the game torrent is listed you'll get you specific instances.Relax.

[x123z]

WE saw the good the bad and the ugly today.

[yerner]

Some of you guys are too protective of Cutler. Obviously, he's still learning but there was def. some horrible almost comical decision making today. Alot of it would have made Plummer proud. Overall, lighten up he's going to be a beast but jeez.

[That One Guy]

I totally agree that he can be really good, you can tell he was pretty nervous out there. There's no reason that every 3 yd ball needs a full windup and to be thrown like a fastball... I think that was causing some of his behind throws on the short stuff. He just got caught up in being nervous and trying to make too much happen. There was one play where he was rolling out to the right and had to break one tackle when he could've just thrown it away and tried again. It was the mental stumbling that really tarnished what could've been a great night.

And I'm too young to know what Elway looked like in his early days but I saw a LOT, and I'll repeat, A LOT, of Brett Favre out there today. From the same types of throws on the same routes (the bullet on the quick slant) to the boneheaded plays that just make you go "uhhhh?"

[frerottenextelway]

When's the last time Plummer passed for 300? Seriously, someone look it up.

I was lucky enough to be at the game, and Cutler was good, not great for most of the game, then great when we needed it. The INT was off a bad snap (like the 4th bad snap in a row), he made a good read to the open guy and threw a poor ball off his back foot. The bomb to Walker that almost got intercepted was the same, it was a good read and a poorly thrown ball. That happens sometimes. As said, cutler played well overall, made some rookie mistakes, but hey, he's essentially a rookie w/ only 6 games played. How 'bout calling them that, rookie mistakes instead of Plummeresque mistakes.

Cutler aside, holy crap was Dre Bly amazing. You rarely get to see corner play on TV, but he had his guy (mostly Evans) blanketed on every single play, whether it ended up coming his way or not.

[CBF1]

I give Jay a high C/ low B for his performamce today. Maybe it was the angle on the 150" screen, but he did not look all that impressive today.

My brightest spot was the true greatness that Lee Evans showed today against Champ ROFL!

[ZONA]

I thought Cutler looked very good for his 6th game. Some of you guys need to chill a bit. Do you think a young pilot can fly flawlessly on his 6th flight?

He made alot of good throws, some bad ones too. He led them on a game winning drive with ZERO seconds to spare in his 6th game. Not bad kid, keep up the good work, keep improving and the city will be yours.

What's funny is, when we got the ball back, I didn't think the chances were good and I said to myself "okay kid, let's see what your made of, this is when you need to be at your best". And what happened? He showed us what he's made of and it looks good from where I am sitting.

[Kaylore]

I agree with most everything here. He played very well but had some hiccups. I think Alec will get more upset the more good things that Cutler does. I also agree that Plummer would have lost this game. Cutler made the plays when we needed to get in field goal range twice in a row. He's money in the clutch and has his first official fourth quarter comeback! :)

[frerottenextelway]

My brightest spot was the true greatness that Lee Evans showed today against Champ ROFL!

Bly was on Evans for about 80% of the snaps.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Bly was on Evans for about 80% of the snaps.
Yep...I told you guys that Bly could handle Evans.

[bombquixote]

Those of you who mentioned the similarity between Cutler and Plumber are absolutely right. Jay was just about as good as Jake ever was...in his sixth NFL start.

I'd say the future looks bright. :sunshine:

[theAPAOps5]

Well Cutler looked like a rookie many times. He made some very doh plays and I said in the chat I could have swore I 16 out there.

That being said he also made some downright nasty throws that not too many QBs could pull off. His lobs to Stokely were just downright beautiful touch passes. Maybe his best.

When it came down to move the chains or lose he zoned in and made the plays. He MADE the plays, thats something Plummer didn't always do but Plummer made his fair share also. I expect that out of a vet and Cutler at least that last drive looked like a vet.

What he needs to work on:

-Calm down: He is jumpy and it showed. He paniced a few times and that was where the Plummer came out. The shovel pass and the lateral, DOH.

-Trust in what you see: He threw behind the WR many times today. Luckily we have good decent WRs so they were able to snag a few. I think he is thinking one split second too long and then has to fire it just to get it close.

-Get rid of that double clutch habit and set the feet. I think a few of the back footers came on blitzes so hopefully in time he just learns to set and fire.

-For the love of God, don't be superman. Slide, Slide, Slide. I almost screamed when he got hit around the knees.

The good:

-THE OPTION, that is a wrinkle that makes the boot more effective further down the road maybe.

-The touch passes to Stokely

-Clutch in the final minute of the 4th

-He is starting to sell the fake real well.

He has a long ways to go but we are getting to see what may and will come with continued work. I am excited.

[cabronco]

I think some people are being over critical of Cutler right now. You expect him to be a seasoned vet like Manning or Brady from the get-go. He's still young and will make mistakes. Even the Great One #7 had hiccups early in his career. Cutler has all the tools , I could see his pocket awareness is even better than last year, but its not where it needs to be yet. I think its fun watching him grow & will get better & better hoping to reach the level of a Manning or Brady. One thing those 2 Qb's have in common is an O-line that gives them solid protection, in which the Broncos dont have consistently right now.

[OrangeShadow]

bottom line is Jay made throws in really tight windows late in the game when the team needed him to.

[sixtimeseight]

Watching these two schmucks Romo and Manning on SNF makes me glad we have a real QB with a lot of upside.

[bclimb1983]

You people who are critizing Cutler are crazy!

Did he have a perfect game? Of course not!

But he did have a very good game for a guy starting his 6th game of his career on the road on opening day!!!!

Yeah he mad a few poor choices but thats to be expected. He will learn to throw the ball away or take the sack instead of always trying to create something out of nothing.

Someone let me know if they can find a qb who looked that good in his 6th start and didn't turn out to be a sucessful qb.

[alkemical]

when it mattered - he delivered. That's what i enjoyed. That and he seems to be a tough SOB

[Broncos_OTM]

When it comes down to it do you want a Losman type qb or do you want a cutler type.. ill take cutler every time.

[rovolution]

Watching these two schmucks Romo and Manning on SNF makes me glad we have a real QB with a lot of upside.

Romos playing a hell of a game

[Broncos_OTM]

Well Cutler looked like a rookie many times. He made some very doh plays and I said in the chat I could have swore I 16 out there.

That being said he also made some downright nasty throws that not too many QBs could pull off. His lobs to Stokely were just downright beautiful touch passes. Maybe his best.

When it came down to move the chains or lose he zoned in and made the plays. He MADE the plays, thats something Plummer didn't always do but Plummer made his fair share also. I expect that out of a vet and Cutler at least that last drive looked like a vet.

What he needs to work on:

-Calm down: He is jumpy and it showed. He paniced a few times and that was where the Plummer came out. The shovel pass and the lateral, DOH.

-Trust in what you see: He threw behind the WR many times today. Luckily we have good decent WRs so they were able to snag a few. I think he is thinking one split second too long and then has to fire it just to get it close.

-Get rid of that double clutch habit and set the feet. I think a few of the back footers came on blitzes so hopefully in time he just learns to set and fire.

-For the love of God, don't be superman. Slide, Slide, Slide. I almost screamed when he got hit around the knees.

The good:

-THE OPTION, that is a wrinkle that makes the boot more effective further down the road maybe.

-The touch passes to Stokely

-Clutch in the final minute of the 4th

-He is starting to sell the fake real well.

He has a long ways to go but we are getting to see what may and will come with continued work. I am excited.

I think you have to place a little blame at nalens snapping in the gun. I thought a few of those snaps were downright horrible and with as much blitz as cutler saw i was happy he could make any plays.

I know its blasphemous to knock on nalen but he is gonna have to work on his shot gun snap.

[theAPAOps5]

I think you have to place a little blame at nalens snapping in the gun. I thought a few of those snaps were downright horrible and with as much blitz as cutler saw i was happy he could make any plays.

I know its blasphemous to knock on nalen but he is gonna have to work on his shot gun snap.

Agree 100% on Nalen shorting the snap. If I post a general what the teams need to work on that is one of them. I only commented on Cutler as its a thread about him.

Also don't get me wrong. The stuff the kid did today made me smile more than it did make me frown. I was just pointing out stuff that could be fixed and WILL be fixed. I also think that when the line either A) gets healthy, or B) sticks with a starting lineup and synchs up the protection will be a little better and some of his bad habits won't be so prevalent.

That throw to Dan Graham across his body made me gasp and laugh all at once, it hurt I don't recommend it. But it also made me go hell yes we have a guy who will make something out of nothing.

I also forgot to mention that Jay has an incredible nack of shedding tackles. Something he surely learned while at Vandy.

[Sassy]

when it mattered - he delivered. That's what i enjoyed. That and he seems to be a tough SOB

I would say that the team delivered under the circumstances...they never gave up...when was the last time we've seen that?

[alkemical]

I would say that the team delivered under the circumstances...they never gave up...when was the last time we've seen that?

sassy - what i mean is - he didn't **** his pants and just give up.

[chadta]

maybe it looked different on tv, but i think just about all of us at the tailgate and the game in buffalo thought cutler looked terrible today, we had no idea what kind of numbers he put up, it seemed like every throw was a step behind the guys, if the buffalo db's could catch they could have had 3 pics today, and the then theres the brain farts.

some of you guys really need to take the orange glasses off

[Malcontent]

By all means..Nails must get that snap up! How many times did you shyte yer britches watching Jay nearly fumble away several shotgun snaps! Early season jitters for both guys.

[Malcontent]

maybe it looked different on tv, but i think just about all of us at the tailgate and the game in buffalo thought cutler looked terrible today, we had no idea what kind of numbers he put up, it seemed like every throw was a step behind the guys, if the buffalo db's could catch they could have had 3 pics today, and the then theres the brain farts.

some of you guys really need to take the orange glasses off

Uhhh can U say winning scoring drive, converting 2 4th downs, with only 1 time out? You probably had too many brats and budweisers to even appreciate that final WINNING drive.

[theAPAOps5]

maybe it looked different on tv, but i think just about all of us at the tailgate and the game in buffalo thought cutler looked terrible today, we had no idea what kind of numbers he put up, it seemed like every throw was a step behind the guys, if the buffalo db's could catch they could have had 3 pics today, and the then theres the brain farts.

some of you guys really need to take the orange glasses off

Yet he was clutch throwing when it mattered for the win. He also made some damn fine passes. See both to Stokely, the pass to Dan Graham, and the pass to Walker x2 at the end.

He has a lot to work on but its not orange glasses when he led the team to a win.

He had tons of DOHs but plenty of Ohs.

[Ugly Duck]

Cutler IS the Franchise!!!!!

WE HAVE A QUARTERBACK!

Huh? He has a lower rating and threw for fewer yards than the lowly Raider QB that we got for 1/2 of a 4th round pick.

Next week, me buckos....

[theAPAOps5]

Huh? He has a lower rating and threw for fewer yards than the lowly Raider QB that we got for 1/2 of a 4th round pick.

Next week, me buckos....

Just curious what was the final score of your game? Weren't you down by like 14 or some points. I know the answer its rhetorical. Can't wait for next week it will be nice to play a scrub ass team.

[azbroncfan]

Huh? He has a lower rating and threw for fewer yards than the lowly Raider QB that we got for 1/2 of a 4th round pick.

Next week, me buckos....

Like QB rating matters when it comes down to W's and L's.

[Ugly Duck]

Just curious what was the final score of your game? Weren't you down by like 14 or some points. I know the answer its rhetorical. Can't wait for next week it will be nice to play a scrub ass team.

A sluggish start had us down by 17 pts. Got it together & led in the 4th quarter, then reverted to last season's style - INT, INT, fumble. Missed all three FG attempts.

You guyz definately have the advantage next week, no doubt about that. But Oakland isn't as ridiculously horrible as last year's debacle, and Denver isn't as good as they were last year. Might not be as easy as you think....

[theAPAOps5]

Your D is definately stout and I don't think rivalry games are ever easy. I just throw out smack like any true blooded fan!

[Ugly Duck]

Your D is definately stout and I don't think rivalry games are ever easy. I just throw out smack like any true blooded fan!

Actually, suprisingly... our D got slapped around by Detroit today. We didn't play anywhere near as good as last season, but the Lions played pretty dang good. And that CJ guy is for real.

[theAPAOps5]

I actually came back to edit as it looked like the D got punked today. But its game one of the season everyone except Dallas, Indy, and the Pats looked sub par. Well there was KC and Cleveland but they just suck.

[Rigs11]

Like QB rating matters when it comes down to W's and L's.

They seem to around here. That's all the crap we heard last year when we won.

[db56]

We'd have lost that game if Plummer was in there, and you know it.

right on, he made some poor decisions, but I think we all expected some bumps along the way, as long as he learns and keeps progressing the offense will gell and eventually explode. Hats off to our weak defense(preseason) for keeping us in the game so we could pull it out in the end.

[worm]

I don't know what is more idiotic....comparing Cutler to Jake or comparing him to John.

Both are unfair for a guy with less than one freakin' season under his belt.

[TDmvp]

i feel a man crush comen on .... lol

[Don Flamenco]

3rd and 23 on our own 21 and we convert. Reminded me of the game I had last night on Madden... except it was against the Chargers

[chadta]

Yet he was clutch throwing when it mattered for the win. He also made some damn fine passes. See both to Stokely, the pass to Dan Graham, and the pass to Walker x2 at the end.

He has a lot to work on but its not orange glasses when he led the team to a win.

He had tons of DOHs but plenty of Ohs.

yes he was, if he played the whole game the way he played the last drive we blow the bills out.

as i said we got back to the tailgate after the game and all we could say was wow can you believe we won with how bad cutler played, other then the last drive his throws were all a yard behind or infront, an he made some bad desicions, then some really bad ones, but the important thing is we won, however to say how the whole game was great and he did no wrong is just plain wrong.

[theAPAOps5]

yes he was, if he played the whole game the way he played the last drive we blow the bills out.

as i said we got back to the tailgate after the game and all we could say was wow can you believe we won with how bad cutler played, other then the last drive his throws were all a yard behind or infront, an he made some bad desicions, then some really bad ones, but the important thing is we won, however to say how the whole game was great and he did no wrong is just plain wrong.


Most people will agree with you too. I think the weather, opening day, a patchwork OLine also contributed to his yipps. We will see more of the dohs but I bet he just gets better.

[Broncos4tw]

Cutler will be an excellent QB once he has learned the ropes. It isn't saying much on Plummers behalf if you say that Cutler did as good or even nearly as good as Plummer would have done had he played. One has started what, 5 NFL games? And one has been in how many years?

He made plenty of rookie mistakes. And he will continue to do so throughout the year. Just get used to it. He is not exempt from the mistakes new players to the NFL all make. I'm just thrilled because he has a few things going for him that Plummer and previous post-Elway QBs did not have. He has an incredible arm, great accuracy, and very good maneuvarability. Once he is up to speed, he'll be among the best in the NFL.

I can understand people's lack of enthusiasm from his mistakes, but really, what did you expect? I fully expected those and more honestly. I was pleased to find he didn't choke on that last drive. I don't care what anyone says, if Griese or Plummer had attempted that drive, it is probably game over. So he can handle some adversity, which is great. He made plenty of bonehead rookie mistakes, but I at least, was not at all surprised to see them.

[Punisher]

Yes!!!!

[fdf]

yes he was, if he played the whole game the way he played the last drive we blow the bills out.

That describes a lot of games Elway played.

[broncofan2438]

I can see how many of you can be upset, but at the same time we won and yes there are alot of things that they must work on. Special teams probably needs more focus than Cutler right now. He will settle in, lets wait to see how he does vs. faiders this weekend and then we have something to compare it to.

[BMF Bronco]

Okay, before everyone gets on my ass about not being a Cutler fan, piss off, I love the kid and love the promise of the future.

But I do have to ask why everyone is still calling him a rookie. Yes granted, he only has five games under his belt but he has been on the team for all of last year and got plenty of practice against the first team D. He is NOT a rookie.

He did have a ton of mistakes and damn near cost us the game, but damn he showed great poise on that last drive. I love his arm strength and touch he had on some of those passes out there. If he can eliminate the bone head mistakes we're going to be phenominal!

Oh and man what a great pick up Stokley was, eh?!:thumbs:

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Okay, before everyone gets on my ass about not being a Cutler fan, piss off, I love the kid and love the promise of the future.

But I do have to ask why everyone is still calling him a rookie. Yes granted, he only has five games under his belt but he has been on the team for all of last year and got plenty of practice against the first team D. He is NOT a rookie.

He did have a ton of mistakes and damn near cost us the game, but damn he showed great poise on that last drive. I love his arm strength and touch he had on some of those passes out there. If he can eliminate the bone head mistakes we're going to be phenominal!

Oh and man what a great pick up Stokley was, eh?!:thumbs:Any more questions?

[BMF Bronco]

Yes, give me the definition of a rookie. From this explanation, it's a first year player, not one in his second year with only five games under his belt.

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[BMF Bronco]

And again, get off my balls, I gave him praise as well.

[no-pseudo-fan]

Cutler's game wasn't perfect. I didn't expect it to be. The INT was a bad throw, and just a bad play for the get go. It should have been a TD to a Wide open Javon. The bootleg pass to Javon was a bad pass, it should have went to Marshall. The Shovel pass, the lateral to Selvin, passes a 1/2 step behind WR at times. I can name a lot of plays that should have been made and weren't, but then there were plays that shouldn't have been made but were:notworthy That is what really showed me something. Dodging a sack,
3rd and 23, and almost every slant on the last 2 drives.

Greatest is measured when the game is on the line. Throwing a 21 yard slant in the 1st quarter of a home game is simple, throwing one on 3rd down in the 4th quarter on the road with a minute on the clock is a totally different throw. I want a QB to be able to deliver in the clutch.

Elway had un-Elway like performances for 3 quarters of games, and when the team needed 12 yards on 4th down in the 4th quarter, not only did the Broncos know he would get it done, but the other team did too.

Elway scared teams because you could beat him up all game, but if he had the ball in his hands on the last play he would find a way to beat you. Cutler has a way to go before he is ready to be a Great QB, but the signs are there.

[Beej]

As somebody that's old enough to remember some of Elway's earliest games, I can say that the comparisons to Jay are close. Elway made his share of bonehead plays, but also had several brilliant ones, just like Jay. One of the biggest differences was that John seemed to want to show everybody how great he was right off the bat, throwing long rocket passes to receivers that just weren't prepared to catch balls like that. He'd rarely go to the checkdown guys, and also rarely throw a touch pass. Jay has some learning to do, but (to me) he is showing more discipline and patience than John did, and he isn't shy to throw the checkdown, and is developing a great touch pass. As Jay continues to gain experience, he's going to strike fear in opposing teams like Manning and Brady do.

[Fedaykin]

Apparently Shanahan was pleased with his perforamnce.


“He got a game ball,” said coach Mike Shanahan. “To have that poise on third down and 23 — that’s what you’re looking for in a quarterback. That’s what separates the good ones from the great ones.”

[snowtrx]

[QUOTE=BMF Bronco;1707459]Yes, give me the definition of a rookie. From this explanation, it's a first year player, not one in his second year with only five games under his belt.QUOTE]

Look at definition #3. Was Philip Rivers a 3rd year veteran last year? No he was a rookie QB.....rookie has many definitions, if it was hockey, Rivers would of actually been listed as a rookie and would of won the rookie of the year award last year.

[Northman]

Apparently Shanahan was pleased with his perforamnce.


“He got a game ball,” said coach Mike Shanahan. “To have that poise on third down and 23 — that’s what you’re looking for in a quarterback. That’s what separates the good ones from the great ones.”

Considering this was Jay's 6th game that is high accolades by the coach. :strong:

[Northman]

You guyz definately have the advantage next week, no doubt about that. But Oakland isn't as ridiculously horrible as last year's debacle, and Denver isn't as good as they were last year. Might not be as easy as you think....

Before yesterday's game i would have agreed with you. But after watching that stellar Oline of yours in crunch time fold like a paper towel im just not worried about you guys like i once was. And not only was your Oline having issues but McNown thinks he has 30 minutes of free time to get rid of the ball. Nope, you guys come into Denver playing like that we will crush your beloved team.

[theAPAOps5]

How about this BMF:
He is a rookie starting QB. Week 11 he will a veteran starting QB. He is a second year player but a rookie starter.

[elsid13]

Well we won, but Cutler can play better, I really think that his accuray will improve when he get his timing down with WRs- because most of his balls were a second late. My real problem was offense game plan, we the heck are we going empty backfield in redzone and throwing the freaking ball 40 times. We should of run it down the Bills throats.