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DeuceOfClub
09-08-2007, 12:40 PM
As a die-hard NFL fan that watches 5+ games every week, I found myself too often frustrated with unprofessional coverage.
I realize that I might not be the target audience, since, most likely, I will watch the game even if it was only available on a 12” B&W screen with Bob Goldthwait in the booth. But there are few simple things that can improve the enjoyment of the game for everyone.

First, a pledge: I promise to be as patriotic as I can, to support our troops and our wonderful country, I also promise to take a Chevy to a test drive the next time I’m in the market for a pick-up truck. Please, please, please, please, please. No more “This is our country”.


Game coverage:
Having 72 cameras in the stadium is great. But during live game feed please use only the ‘traditional’ top sideline camera. Maybe I’m too old or maybe I’m too ‘old-school’ but when the game is on, nothing is better for me than the regular view. Keep your other views to replays and highlights. It would be nice to use as wide angle as possible but I realize not everyone watch the game on a big screen. The traditional angle allows us to get max information about what’s going on. Which lead us to my next point:


Graphics:
Every year the networks compete who can implement more computers enhanced graphic and other visual effects. It has become ridicules. Here are few Dos and Don’ts:
In game Scoreboard: keep it to minimum size please. CBS was the last network to change from a small corner behind the QB to a full running line. All we care about is the score, time left (quarter), down and to go. No reason to eliminate almost 10% of my screen.
Do not put “crap” on the field: One yellow line to indicate the first down marker is enough. Again, without stopping to think all the networks (it seems) adopted the “down and to-go” on the field display. There is zero added value, while it makes the game looks stupid. And who, on earth, came up with the “brilliant” idea of painting the entire red zone in Red when showing red zone statistic? Makes the entire screen look like poor Japanese animation.
Starting lineup: keep it short and informative, since they started implementing all those “great” features it's almost always spill into live game action. (why do I need to see a “video” of the player instead of a pictures is beyond me, yay Broncos’ O-line)
Other games scoreboard and fantasy line: just use common sense. No need to show baseball results from 10 hours ago over and over, use longer interval unless there are updates. I know that FF is huge today (I play it myself, though, I do not care about it during games) but stupid lines like “Ron Dayne: 3 carries 7 yards 0 TDs 0 receptions 0 yards 0 TDs” are just . . . stupid.


Commercial breaks:
I understand this is a necessity. But once again, please use common sense. NBC is currently the worst; I get the feeling we are not far away from Breaks during measurements. Every possible opportunity they go to a break. If you watch the season opener you might noticed at the end of the 1st quarter the Saints went ‘3 and out’ the Colts fielded the punt with 19sec’ to go, commercial break, one play later the quarter was over, commercial break.
Charge more for airtime, take longer breaks, but stay on the field when possible.
Take a longer break after score, but stay on the field after the kickoff!
Here is a constructive idea: run a sport ticker (a-la’ ESPN News) during commercial breaks with scoreboard and fantasy lines. You get more exposure to the commercials while improving the chance of interested costumers staying in front of the TV and not changing channels or running to their computers.


Personal and coverage:
Sideline reporters: I guess they are here to stay, but remember they are far less important than a good replay or a ‘game-break-update’. No reason to give airtime to a sideline reporter only to hear: “Still no information about Player X injury, we’ll get back to you as soon as we know something”
Studio coverage: I don’t care too much since it is happening out side of the game, but still: this is not a competition to see who can get more bubbleheads in the studio. Once again NBC lead the charts with almost 10 people fighting for time. 3-4 should be standard. At half time I’m more interested in highlights and scores, than WWE microphone-death-cage fight.
On location studios: Zero times zero of added value. If anything it looks amateurish when 6 experts fighting for air time while trying to ignore the weather elements and the local “objective” fans.

Now, on purpose, I avoided mentioning any names. I realized long ago that one's favorites are another most hated ones. But I think there is one thing we can all agree on: under no circumstances, not in the booth, not in the studio and not on the sideline. Not before not during and not after the game. Not to watch and not to listen.
Keep Tony Siragusa off my TV screen. Thank you.


Replays:
Replays are the most useful way to fill the gaps between plays, use it! When possible show us the ‘top-end-zone’ camera (game film) that allow to watch almost the entire field and action.
Also, there is no need for a 3sec’ screens flying and fireworks when moving to a replay (ESPN!) a quick ‘cut’ will do.


NFL Network games:
Enough! Experiment failed. Their coverage is the worst, the games are on Thursday for crying out loud, and still many of us cannot gain access to the network.
If it is a must, please join venture with someone that knows what he is doing and move the games to Saturdays.


Other Pet peeves:
“Miked-up”: Cool, if there are actually good sound bites. Stupid if not. No need to listen to players moaning and groaning. (Here’s a free tip: I love Champ as much as the next Broncos’ fan, but he is a terrible candidate to be “Miked-up”)
Updated pictures: you know what I’m talking about: Plummer Mustache or Terry Glenn comb-over to name a few.
ESPN’s MNF: Usually leading the way in actual coverage (best HD, good camera angles and replays, stat and info) but please, keep it professional: Lock the booth from the inside, get rid of Tony’s mail and other great “family entertainment” ideas.
Broadcasters, be prepared: you only have one game per week. make sure you are ready. Players names, team standing and record, recent news… you know, do your job.


Final words:
This might sound funny to some, but the main reason we watch football is to, how should I say it? To watch the game.
When there is flag, show us the infraction.
When there is a challenge, give us the replays.
When a spectacular play happens you can’t over show it.
And remember (most networks are actually very good at that) the game is above everything else. There are no excuses for missing live action.



Have a great, great season.

Man-Goblin
09-08-2007, 01:01 PM
Outstanding post.

And yeah, I absolutely, positively flipped out when that first 'This is our country' spot hit last thursday night. I instantly realized we were doomed to another year of it and it made me sick.

theAPAOps5
09-08-2007, 01:04 PM
Just don't complain about it or make an argument they should spend more money on R&D to make a better product to compete with Toyota. Some guy went ballistic in the Thursday game thread when I said that. ;D

chawknz
09-08-2007, 01:08 PM
Nice post! I agree with a lot what you have to say. ESPN and NBC are the worst possible places to catch a game. Hopefully ESPN will clean up their act for the normal season, but their games during the pre-season, especially the Broncos vs 49ers was ABYSMAL.

I personally don't mind the graphics on the field, but that's just me.

NFL Network to me is a disaster and it should be offloaded to a real network. I can't even get the dang thing, and since there's only one game on a Thursday, I want to watch it, darn it! I hate hate hate Thursdays as it stands.

CBS has been the most enjoyable experience so far this season. They keep it mellow and the announcing team seems to actually want to watch football, unlike ESPN who wants to provide special "services" to JERRY RICE.

ColoradoDarin
09-08-2007, 02:14 PM
Rep. Couldn't have said it any better myself.

Natedogg
09-08-2007, 02:23 PM
Why don't us rational people get listened to?

ColoradoDarin
09-08-2007, 02:56 PM
Why don't us rational people get listened to?

Aw come on, who doesn't need to see the score of the WNBA game 36 times an hour????

ludo21
09-08-2007, 03:00 PM
i love commericials. who needs the game when i can watch the caveman previews.

obediah
09-08-2007, 03:15 PM
You forgot Bryant Gumble, The whitest black man on the planet shouldnt have ANYTHING to do with football.

The bitch i have about the yellow line is its inconsistant!! half the time they dont have a yellow line, then it shows up, makes me angry.

which leads me to the muzzle they need to put on John Madden, i refuse to listen to any sound that contains his voice, i put in sirius radio and watch the game with that as my sound...

Obediah

Popps
09-08-2007, 03:21 PM
You forgot Bryant Gumble, The whitest black man on the planet

Just wondering... how can Bryant "black" himself up a little more for you?

Help us out. What makes him so "white."

Inquiring minds...

lazarus4444
09-08-2007, 03:23 PM
+1 on the rep, great post, thank you!

Popps
09-08-2007, 03:24 PM
As for the thread, mostly good suggestions. Some of this stuff won't change. Networks are graphic-crazy, and it allows them to sneak in more advertising. That's simply not going to change.

But, how about an addition to your commentators rule... don't talk about fantasy football, particularly your OWN team. I play fantasy, but there's nothing more boring in the world than listening to someone rant about their fantasy team. It's even more mind-numbing when it's coming from a commentator, who is at least supposed to feign a level of respect for the game.

Banned
09-08-2007, 03:36 PM
Im not sure I agree with everything but most of that stuff is spot on.

Particularly your rant about the camera. That Sunday Night Camera last year was by far the best angle to watch football ever. The one behind the QB in the middle of the field dangling off a wire. Way way WAY too cool.

NFL Network doesnt have the worst coverage, ESPN does. It is now to the point where I absolutely dread when Denver plays a MNF game because Im going to miss about 25% of the game thanks to ****ty coverage from a ****ty crew. I think they have by far the worst coverage of the game, worst preparation (though I was hoping Jaws would help, he hasnt) and worst "interviews".

Bryant Gumble is indeed full of suck.

I liked Miked Up too because even ****ty comments are better than commentators.

Sodak
09-08-2007, 04:23 PM
Great post Deuce. I have to agree with you on every point.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=59593&highlight=espn



Good to see you here "Banned".

uk bronco
09-08-2007, 10:08 PM
more games are available in the UK on sky than in the US according to sky this year. I try to watch the games online cos the studio guys are freaking morons. Kevin Cadle the basketball coach (got the job cos he's a yank) who calls it the NBA at least once a week and a chump who tries to use as many technical terms wrongly as possible it seems.

Sodak
09-09-2007, 01:15 AM
(got the job cos he's a yank) .

A "yank"? What? are you from Atlanta or something? That would be the equivalent of "Limey", or "Island Ape"... :sunshine:

Broncosfreak_56
09-09-2007, 01:58 AM
Great post, I totally agree.

EDIT: Oops, lol, I accidently pressed "report Post" than "add reputation". :flush:
Mods, pay no attention to it...sorry.

sgbfan
09-09-2007, 02:32 AM
Just to add to it. The commentators should watch the game. I hate having to correct them about a play. I do it countless times in a game. Why can't their be decent announcers.

maher_tyler
09-09-2007, 03:32 AM
i hate it when they mess up on players names..or when you can easily tell the anouncer/anouncers are almost cheering for one team to win..if anyone watched the Nebraska and Wake Forest game you'll know, i've never heard it so bad..the one guy you could tell wanted Wake Forest to win the game..it was BAD...i agree with everything you posted..the commercials are ridiculous..you just know their gonna go to a commercial after a kickoff or punt.

uk bronco
09-09-2007, 07:51 AM
A "yank"? What? are you from Atlanta or something? That would be the equivalent of "Limey", or "Island Ape"... :sunshine:

I'm from the greatest small county in the world Scotland. It was more of a shot at how football is run in the UK cos if someone has an American accent they are automatically assumed to know everything about football when a lot of the time (like Kevin Cadle) they know nothing

x123z
09-09-2007, 08:38 AM
Side line reporters is my pet peeve.

Hogan11
09-09-2007, 08:52 AM
I thought it was funny towards the end of the season last year when a player started to celebrate excessively, the networks (save ESPN) would cut away from them. Hopefully they continue to do that this season.

Crushaholic
09-09-2007, 08:55 AM
Mellencamp haters...all of you...:clown:

Seriously, it's only going to get worse. Like you said in your original post, you aren't part of the target audience with all the graphics. They are looking to expand their audience with people who have never watched football before...hence the reason they color the redzone...

Jens1893
09-09-2007, 09:13 AM
One thing IŽd love to see implemented for NFL games, or football games in general, is a second audio feed with the stadium noise only. So when the commentators piss you off too much, you can simply mute them and youŽre left with the stadium noise only.

Crushaholic
09-09-2007, 09:18 AM
I watch games in a sports bar. That way, I don't have to listen to ANYTHING...commentators or commercials...:thumbs:

Jens1893
09-09-2007, 09:31 AM
I watch games in a sports bar. That way, I don't have to listen to ANYTHING...commentators or commercials...:thumbs:

This is ooooooooouuuuuuuuuur country .... ;)