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Dempsey Dog
08-28-2007, 03:02 PM
I think our LB corp, after a few growing pains will be pretty good. Nevertheless, if we were to draft a LB early next year, the initial prognastications are that it is a deep LB draft. So at the very least, we should be able to get some good talent in the 2-4th rounds.

Keith Rivers would be a great pick, but he may be gone by the time we draft. Even then, we may have other needs that will require more attention at the top of the draft.

Ezra Butler from Nevada good be guy to watch this year too.

Draft Dish: '08 class loaded at linebacker
August 26, 2007

Russ Lande
For Sporting News

The 2008 draft class looks as if it'll be chocked full of top-flight linebackers. There were some good linebackers in the '07 draft, but few elite ones. The '08 class has at least three first-round prospects and could have as many as six or seven after the juniors join in.

Here is a quick look at the top senior linebackers heading into the season:

1. Keith Rivers, Southern Cal, 6-3, 236. Rivers is an elite athlete who flies around the field making impact plays. He is a well built outside linebacker who finds the ball quickly, moves through traffic with ease and has the speed to chase down anyone from the backside. He can do it all -- is a productive as a blitzer, is adept at making tackles on runs at him and breaks up passes in man-to-man and zone coverage. Rivers, no doubt, has the tools to be a three-down linebacker in the NFL. He will be a high first-round pick in April.

2. Dan Connor, Penn State, 6-3, 225. Connor was an elite linebacker from Day 1 upon his arrival at Penn State and should cement his first-round stock with a solid senior season. He is tough and competitive with the athleticism and speed to make a lot of plays. He shows excellent instincts to read plays and react in a blink. He is a smooth and fluid athlete, enabling him to be a solid open-field tackler and get good depth in zone coverage. He maintains good balance and plays under control. Connor is the rare star high school player who met or exceeded expectations in college.

3. Vince Hall, Virginia Tech, 5-11 3/8, 237. Hall will become a good NFL linebacker but probably won't be drafted high unless his 40-yard dash times improve. He is lesser known than Tech teammate Xavier Adibi but clearly is more productive. Hall lacks ideal height but shows the strength to standup lead blockers, shed them and make the tackle. He shows great fundamentals and delivers violent hits. He is tough and aggressive. Adibi will overshadow Hall in pre-draft workouts, but Hall is sure to be the better NFL player.

4. Beau Bell, UNLV, 6-1 3/4, 251. Bell is the physical specimen every NFL team wants at inside linebacker. He is tough and competitive and delivers violent hits. He shows good instincts to sniff out plays and close quickly. He has the strength to take on blockers but must become more consistent at shedding blocks. He works well in zone coverage but struggles to flip hips to turn and run well with tight ends in man-to-man coverage. He tends to run upright and thus overrun some tackles.

5. Xavier Adibi, Virginia Tech, 6-1 1/2, 218. Adibi is athletic with the speed and burst to reach and finish any play. Shows good instincts and is aggressive when filling holes to take on lead blockers. He must get bigger and stronger to hold up at the point of attack, though. He must learn to use hands better to take on and shed blocks and to protect his legs from cut blocks. Drops into zone coverage nicely, and can plant, drive and close quickly on passes. Adibi is a similar prospect to the Falcons' Demorrio Williams.

6. Tavares Gooden, Miami (Fla.), 6-2, 230. Gooden is the type of outside linebacker NFL scouts love or hate -- he is a great athlete but is inconsistent. He often is the last linebacker moving after the snap but shows the acceleration and speed to catch up and make the play. He shows good balance and technique to deliver hard, physical tackles. He is not smooth or fluid in coverage, and he loses a step when forced to turn and run with receivers in man-to-man coverage. He does not hesitate to take on blockers. He is a boom-or-bust prospect.

7. Ezra Butler, Nevada, 6-2 1/8, 246. Butler is a big, strong and athletic outside linebacker who has shown steady improvement in college. He has rare size and speed and shows good instincts to read plays quickly and react in a flash. He is at his best chasing plays. He takes on blockers and holds his ground well at the point of attack but must learn to better use his hands to shed blocks. He looks comfortable playing off the ball in coverage, and makes a lot of plays on the ball. Butler is not the most polished of linebackers but has the size and speed to move up draft boards with a good senior season.

8. Ali Highsmith, LSU, 6-0, 222. Highsmith is a frustrating prospect to grade. He is a good athlete with good speed but does not make as many plays as he should. He is as his best in man-to-man coverage, capable of running with any tight end. He drops quickly into zone coverage, reads the quarterback well and closes quickly to break up a lot of passes. He shows the acceleration and speed to chase down plays from the backside. He can be a good tackler but tends to get overaggressive and miss tackles. He struggles to take on and defeat blockers. Our biggest concern is that Highsmith often is fooled by play-action fakes and misdirection plays. He has the talent to be an NFL starter but must greatly improve his use of hands to take on blockers and improve his instincts.

9. Corey McKeon, Nebraska, 6-0 3/8, 235. McKeon is the type of inside linebacker who often gets overlooked because he lacks great size and is not an explosive player. The more you evaluate him the more, though, the more it becomes clear he has what it takes to be an NFL starter if he can add 10 pounds of bulk. McKeon plays with a smart, tough and instinctive style. He gets started to the ball in a flash, avoids blockers and makes more plays than you'd expect. He takes on blockers at the point of attack but lacks the bulk to hold his ground.

Requiem
08-28-2007, 03:10 PM
The problem is most of the linebackers coming out are fantastic weakside prospects, and it our need is at strong side. A few names come to mind there, but the quality is really on the complete other end of what we need, unless something would happen to Ian.

Dempsey Dog
08-28-2007, 03:38 PM
The problem is most of the linebackers coming out are fantastic weakside prospects, and it our need is at strong side. A few names come to mind there, but the quality is really on the complete other end of what we need, unless something would happen to Ian.


Good point. I don't know much about him, but I as I mentioned, Ezra Butler appears to have the size to play strong side. At 250 or so, he might match up well against the TE.

DBroncos4life
08-28-2007, 03:52 PM
Corey McKeon :~ohyah!:

cutthemdown
08-28-2007, 03:54 PM
The problem is most of the linebackers coming out are fantastic weakside prospects, and it our need is at strong side. A few names come to mind there, but the quality is really on the complete other end of what we need, unless something would happen to Ian.

You mean something happen like Denver coaches getting sick of Gold never making any big meaningful plays?

Beantown Bronco
08-28-2007, 04:08 PM
You mean something happen like Denver coaches getting sick of Gold never making any big meaningful plays?

Ask Mark Brunell about that.....Did you perhaps mean DJ Williams?

Arkansas Bronco
08-28-2007, 04:08 PM
8. Ali Highsmith, LSU, 6-0, 222. Highsmith is a frustrating prospect to grade. He is a good athlete with good speed but does not make as many plays as he should. He is as his best in man-to-man coverage, capable of running with any tight end. He drops quickly into zone coverage, reads the quarterback well and closes quickly to break up a lot of passes. He shows the acceleration and speed to chase down plays from the backside. He can be a good tackler but tends to get overaggressive and miss tackles. He struggles to take on and defeat blockers. Our biggest concern is that Highsmith often is fooled by play-action fakes and misdirection plays. He has the talent to be an NFL starter but must greatly improve his use of hands to take on blockers and improve his instincts.



How about this guy later to fix the left side?

Dempsey Dog
08-28-2007, 04:17 PM
How about this guy later to fix the left side?


Looks like another guy built like a safety playing LB to me. I would rather get a bigger guy. Seems like a Gold clone.

Arkansas Bronco
08-28-2007, 04:20 PM
True I didnt read his messurables. I was just impressed with the cover skills and having to face Gates and Gonzalez 2 times each. Carry on.

want2bAbronco2
08-28-2007, 07:03 PM
Keith Rivers, Southern Cal, 6-3, 236. yes pls! no way we are that high to draft him though =/

ZONA
08-28-2007, 08:07 PM
We're not even out of preseason yet and we're talking about the draft for next year? You have no idea if any or every single one of those college LB's on your list will play good this year or even be healthy come draft time. Our LB's just may turn out a damn good season and it would then appear drafting a LB is very low on the "needs" list.

Pure waste of webspace at this point and needless speculation.

Broncos_OTM
08-28-2007, 08:54 PM
i dont think nate webster on our defense is a weak spot seems to be playing alot better then DJ. witht that being said i think if dj plays strong this year and shows promise linebacker wont be a big need. maybe a second day pick. but if dj doesnt transition MLB could be highpriority

Elway777
09-11-2007, 12:17 PM
A couple of other guys to think about are Jasper Brinkley ,great run stopper plus would allow Williams to move back to the will. Jerermy Leman ,is 3 in tackles this year but might not be that fast,. Jordon Dixon, could be a good second day pick and great special teams player. Dixon is leading ncaa in tackles. Has had a 17 solo tackle game already this year.

Master___Pain
09-13-2007, 05:28 PM
A couple of other guys to think about are Jasper Brinkley ,great run stopper plus would allow Williams to move back to the will. Jerermy Leman ,is 3 in tackles this year but might not be that fast,. Jordon Dixon, could be a good second day pick and great special teams player. Dixon is leading ncaa in tackles. Has had a 17 solo tackle game already this year.

Dizon, it's Dizon. Dizon is also 3rd on the NCAA alltime career tackles list. He's undersized but he could be a player in the NFL.

Master___Pain
09-18-2007, 03:24 PM
Dizon, it's Dizon. Dizon is also 3rd on the NCAA alltime career tackles list. He's undersized but he could be a player in the NFL.

Dizon makes this weeks risers from SI

Jordan Dizon (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/09/17/risers/index.html?eref=T1)

Dizon is leading the country in tackles at over 16 a game, with nearly 12 of those being solo. (He leads the nation in solo tackles as well)

Billy Clyde Puckett
09-18-2007, 05:22 PM
He had a hell of a game Saturday. so did Hypolite

Master___Pain
09-18-2007, 06:46 PM
He had a hell of a game Saturday. so did Hypolite

The defense is coming around. The offense has regressed. There are a handful of guys on that buffs D that could play on Sunday. The two seniors certainly will.

Elway777
09-20-2007, 02:10 AM
Jasper Brinkley lays the wood http://youtube.com/watch?v=HQsy4gU40Ss

Elway777
09-26-2007, 04:56 PM
I really like Beau Bell as a sleeper pick in the second round. The Broncos go with a dt like Frank Okam in the first then draft Bell in the second. I don't think Bell will make it too the 4 round. Bell already has 3 forced fumbles and really hits hard.

Requiem
09-26-2007, 08:31 PM
Jasper Brinkley is out for the year with a knee injury.

missingnumber7
10-07-2007, 04:23 AM
Ok I'm not a big NFL scout follower, but North Dakota State has a MLB that is a stud, the only issue is he's 5' 11" and all the coaches at NDSU I've talked to say he's to short to play at the next level ,but he moves like a cat, he plays coverage amazingly, he covers slot receivers in a nickle or dime set. But hes FCS and not FBS. Just wondering if anyone has heard or seen anything in the scouting world about Joe Mays?

bpc
10-07-2007, 11:56 AM
I would like to see more from Ezra Butler and Beau Bell. Both guys have very good size and from reports can really move.

I love the way Dizon plays. He's been leading Colorado like that for the past two years. Another Zach Thomas?

Billy Clyde Puckett
10-07-2007, 12:49 PM
Jasper Brinkley is out for the year with a knee injury.

Thanks. Hadn't seen that. Was looking for him in the game and couldn't figure out why he wasn't there.

Requiem
10-07-2007, 03:31 PM
Ok I'm not a big NFL scout follower, but North Dakota State has a MLB that is a stud, the only issue is he's 5' 11" and all the coaches at NDSU I've talked to say he's to short to play at the next level ,but he moves like a cat, he plays coverage amazingly, he covers slot receivers in a nickle or dime set. But hes FCS and not FBS. Just wondering if anyone has heard or seen anything in the scouting world about Joe Mays?

Hey, I go to school at NDSU and I am friends with quite a few of the players on the team (my best friend rooms with three of them), and I just talked to him the other day. Joe was a sophomore when I came there and that's when he first hit the scene, and I've seen almost every home game and the televised away games since he's been here, so I have about 13-15 Joe Mays games underneath my belt.

Playing in Division I-AA might hurt him, but he's one of - if not the best defensive player in NDSU history. Saturday, he passed the all-time solo tackle mark and has been on an absolute tear. He was fantastic against D-I opponent Central Michigan getting over 10 tackles and I believe 1.5 sacks. NDSU plays a lot of solid teams, and will continue to get more bids against D-I A teams as they make their way through the ranks.

Mays is a phenomenal player. He's 5-11, 245. He's absolutely ripped for his size, and is quite the physical specimen. Short players can exceed at MLB, and Bates actually prefers shorter, athletic linebackers in his defensive scheme, so I think if they knew anything about Mays, he'd be on their radar.

I'm really surprised that the coaches on the staff would say such things about Mays. He's short, but he'll find a role somewhere in the NFL. I know that most all coaches think the world of him, and I don't think you'd ever hear anyone high up on the staff dissing him because of his height.

NDSU rarely ever lines up in a tradional 4-3 defensive scheme, you always see nickel formations, and big nickel formations and I'd say that pending the snaps of the game the opposing offense sees, less than 25% are in a traditional 4-3 format. A middle linebacker is really non-existent here. You're absolutely right on Mays always being in coverage, yesterday against UC-Davis he was phenomenal and came up with several pass break-ups and in particular one in the endzone that was a near interception, but he dropped it.

He's a huge hitter, is good in pursuit and displays good tackling technique. I'd say his size is the only big question he as, but he's a men amongst boys in D-I AA.

missingnumber7
10-09-2007, 11:00 AM
Hey, I go to school at NDSU and I am friends with quite a few of the players on the team (my best friend rooms with three of them), and I just talked to him the other day. Joe was a sophomore when I came there and that's when he first hit the scene, and I've seen almost every home game and the televised away games since he's been here, so I have about 13-15 Joe Mays games underneath my belt.

Playing in Division I-AA might hurt him, but he's one of - if not the best defensive player in NDSU history. Saturday, he passed the all-time solo tackle mark and has been on an absolute tear. He was fantastic against D-I opponent Central Michigan getting over 10 tackles and I believe 1.5 sacks. NDSU plays a lot of solid teams, and will continue to get more bids against D-I A teams as they make their way through the ranks.

Mays is a phenomenal player. He's 5-11, 245. He's absolutely ripped for his size, and is quite the physical specimen. Short players can exceed at MLB, and Bates actually prefers shorter, athletic linebackers in his defensive scheme, so I think if they knew anything about Mays, he'd be on their radar.

I'm really surprised that the coaches on the staff would say such things about Mays. He's short, but he'll find a role somewhere in the NFL. I know that most all coaches think the world of him, and I don't think you'd ever hear anyone high up on the staff dissing him because of his height.

NDSU rarely ever lines up in a tradional 4-3 defensive scheme, you always see nickel formations, and big nickel formations and I'd say that pending the snaps of the game the opposing offense sees, less than 25% are in a traditional 4-3 format. A middle linebacker is really non-existent here. You're absolutely right on Mays always being in coverage, yesterday against UC-Davis he was phenomenal and came up with several pass break-ups and in particular one in the endzone that was a near interception, but he dropped it.

He's a huge hitter, is good in pursuit and displays good tackling technique. I'd say his size is the only big question he as, but he's a men amongst boys in D-I AA.

Don't take me wrong I don't disagree with you that Joe is a great player. He is one of the best if not the best linebackers in d1aa right now, however...I have been watching bison football since i was knee high to a grasshopper, or 8 as you may. I was around for consecutive championships and was on the sideline in 91 for both the ncc clincher and for the first round playoff game. Joe is another of the prototypical hard hitters. I watched Joe come on the scene in his first green and gold game. He made a huge hit, caused a fumble, recovered it and scored a td. Took off his helmet in the endzone and got flagged. Bohl benched him. Welcome to the JOE MAYS regime.
I am one of the few that still used to stand in line for games. We showed up no less than 3 hours before the game began. I would show up for a noon game at 8 am. I sat pole position for 4 years. I was at NDSU during Lamar Gordon's time. I was a physical education major, had classes with more than my share of Bison. Joe is good, but he isn't the best that NDSU has ever had. Phil Hansen comes to my mind as probably the best in my memory. And ask anyone that has been around for more than 4 years or any alumni about the hitman before mays...Mike Shephard....who wore #8. And the coach who told me that he will have a hard time getting drafted is now coaching in the nfl.
As far as games...I've traveled to Bozeman, SDSU, the cities, Greeley 2x, and any NCC game on the road the last 2 years of D2. Seen some great games...seen some heartbreakers...MT ST, SDSU battle for the marker #1, the gophers game, the last Northern Colo game.

missingnumber7
10-09-2007, 11:03 AM
[QUOTE=Requiem;1743037]NDSU rarely ever lines up in a tradional 4-3 defensive scheme, you always see nickel formations, and big nickel formations and I'd say that pending the snaps of the game the opposing offense sees, less than 25% are in a traditional 4-3 format. A middle linebacker is really non-existent here. QUOTE]
Actually if you ask any of the coaches, and I have, its a 3-4 with rolled up backers, or they play with an extra saftey as a backer as a will.

Requiem
10-09-2007, 11:09 PM
Don't take me wrong I don't disagree with you that Joe is a great player. He is one of the best if not the best linebackers in d1aa right now, however...I have been watching bison football since i was knee high to a grasshopper, or 8 as you may. I was around for consecutive championships and was on the sideline in 91 for both the ncc clincher and for the first round playoff game. Joe is another of the prototypical hard hitters. I watched Joe come on the scene in his first green and gold game. He made a huge hit, caused a fumble, recovered it and scored a td. Took off his helmet in the endzone and got flagged. Bohl benched him. Welcome to the JOE MAYS regime.
I am one of the few that still used to stand in line for games. We showed up no less than 3 hours before the game began. I would show up for a noon game at 8 am. I sat pole position for 4 years. I was at NDSU during Lamar Gordon's time. I was a physical education major, had classes with more than my share of Bison. Joe is good, but he isn't the best that NDSU has ever had. Phil Hansen comes to my mind as probably the best in my memory. And ask anyone that has been around for more than 4 years or any alumni about the hitman before mays...Mike Shephard....who wore #8. And the coach who told me that he will have a hard time getting drafted is now coaching in the nfl.
As far as games...I've traveled to Bozeman, SDSU, the cities, Greeley 2x, and any NCC game on the road the last 2 years of D2. Seen some great games...seen some heartbreakers...MT ST, SDSU battle for the marker #1, the gophers game, the last Northern Colo game.

I guess I'm a little biased since it's just my third year here. . . ;)

Is it Coach Babich by the way?

Requiem
10-09-2007, 11:10 PM
[QUOTE=Requiem;1743037]NDSU rarely ever lines up in a tradional 4-3 defensive scheme, you always see nickel formations, and big nickel formations and I'd say that pending the snaps of the game the opposing offense sees, less than 25% are in a traditional 4-3 format. A middle linebacker is really non-existent here. QUOTE]
Actually if you ask any of the coaches, and I have, its a 3-4 with rolled up backers, or they play with an extra saftey as a backer as a will.

I've noticed a lot of the formations with the extra safety in as a backer, but I see a lot of four man fronts. It's definitely different. Our pass rush sucks!