Broncos Sign Defensive Lineman Browning

[dbfan21]

per cbs4.com


http://cbs4denver.com/breakingnewsalerts/local_story_234131123.html


The Denver Broncos signed free-agent defensive lineman John Browning on Wednesday, Head Coach Mike Shanahan announced.

Browning (6-foot-5, 297 pounds) is a 12th-year player who spent his first 11 seasons with Kansas City. He was selected by the Chiefs in the third round (68th overall) of the 1996 NFL Draft from West Virginia University.

In 121 career regular-season games (96 starts), Browning has totaled 307 tackles (252 solo), 27.5 sacks (158.5 yds.), one interception, 12 pass breakups, four fumble recoveries and three forced fumbles.

The 33-year-old also has appeared in two postseason contests (1 start) and recorded five tackles (all solo) and one forced fumble in those games.

Browning, who was placed on injured reserve by Kansas City on Sept. 2 before the club reached an injury settlement with him on Sept. 30, has started at least 12 games in three of his last four years played. A 16-game performer during each of his last four years played, Browning also owns four seasons with at least four sacks for his career.

During his most recent regular-season action in 2005, Browning started 12 of 16 games played for the Chiefs. He registered 35 tackles (31 solo), two sacks (14 yds.), a career-high four pass breakups and one forced fumble that season.

[cutthemdown]

another scrub, great!!!

[theAPAOps5]

Oh no, this thread is going to be inundated.

I am not sure what to think about this.

[Orange_Beard]

$hit, first Warren to the Faid, now we bring in an ex-chef.
WTF? is going on around here?

[BroncoInferno]

Well, it's not like there are a lot of quality, healthy, in their prime DL sitting around with no jobs. I guess Rice can't pass a physical.

[dbfan21]

I wish I knew what the hell is going through the minds of the FO.

Let me get this straight...Gerard Warren not gonna cut it for us on the DL, but some no-name is going to fill the void that EE left? Gimme a frickin break.

This off season went from really exciting to really strange.

Next thing you know, Boob will be posting on this thread trying to convince us that this guy is a stud and that the scheme in KC preventing him from being a perennial pro bowler.

[Sodak]

Great.

Get ready for the trolls.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO! ****ing horrible! You bastards!!! You couldn't leave him well enough alone!

[BroncoBuff]

"Defensive lineman"? Umm... can you be more specific?

[cousinal11]

I believe he plays end.

[Raider Bill]

You guys missed the boat on Sam Rayburn. He would have been a good fit.

[Paladin]

He is probably a "bridge" player, providing some help in the continuing education of Crowder and Moss. Then again, he may be a bit more than a stop gap..... Broncos should be getting some people up and running soon.......

[telluride]

Isn't that Raider front office cast-off Mike Lombardi now with the Broncos? Maybe all this is his doing. Or maybe Ted S. has simply gone crazy.

Also: NO ONE QUOTE BOB IN THIS THREAD!

[CHANGSTER]

The team just lost 2 lineman. They need preseason bodies. I doubt he's on the roster come the season opener.

[HEAV]

Uhh :kiddingme :twitch: Who this?


See what happens when you ask them to sign a player...


Face it Shanny isn't going to bring in a player that will keep Moss on the bench.

Simeon Rice is 10 sacks easy.

Broncos are playing for 2008. That's cool, jsut don't try to sell me that it's all about 2007.

[KCStud]

John Browning is a hard worker. He may be too old, but you can expect that he will do his best everytime he is out there.

[orinjkrush]

We are now truly in the twilight zone. Shanny has become Rod Serling. Now that I think about it, there is some resemblance.

[broncosteven]

I can't believe there was no thread started to say we should have signed this guy eariler! Seems like anyone that gets cut should be signed here!

[DukeWoody]

He was brought in to help us understand, and decipher the chefs sophisticated and extremely complicated defense...;)

[SonOfLe-loLang]

its similar to when they signed Marco Coleman a few years back. Its not a terrible signing, you know what you get from him and im sure he's real cheap.

[bcbronc]

so none of the browns worked, so we are moving on to browning?

wtf, is shanny just scrolling down the phonebook looking for dline solutions?

[ZachKC]

He was brought in to help us understand, and decipher the chefs sophisticated and extremely complicated defense...;)

Can't be a bad idea. You guys didn't get a TD on the board until the 3rd qtr of your second game against us.

[KCStud]

This move shows how truly desperate and weak Denvers DL is. Ekuban being hurt doesn't look good, but still it brings up a good point. Denver's DL has given up massive runs and TD's on the ground against teams that aren't revealing their playbook. They are also not getting much pressure on the QB which is gonna hurt your DB's if the QB has a long time in the pocket.

If this keeps up, then Denver could be in a lot of trouble

[Ugly Duck]

Great.

Get ready for the trolls.

We're here....

[bpc]

He started during the Vermeil era, that should say enough.

[Raiders Rock]

Best playa Evah

[SonOfLe-loLang]

This move shows how truly desperate and weak Denvers DL is. Ekuban being hurt doesn't look good, but still it brings up a good point. Denver's DL has given up massive runs and TD's on the ground against teams that aren't revealing their playbook. They are also not getting much pressure on the QB which is gonna hurt your DB's if the QB has a long time in the pocket.

If this keeps up, then Denver could be in a lot of trouble

I dont get your logic at all. Wouldnt throwing a 3 year 18 million dollar deal at Simeon Rice be a sign of desperation...not signing an old veteren for a low price?

[Raiders Rock]

We're here....

Present:welcome:

[sixtimeseight]

Can't be a bad idea. You guys didn't get a TD on the board until the 3rd qtr of your second game against us.

And you guys didn't get a first down until the 3rd quarter of your game against the Colts, or score a TD in your first game against us. What's your point again?

[bpc]

I think we should take a look at this guy.

http://www.packers.com/team/players/williams_corey/

I'm hearing reports he is on the block. Seems like he has the big body we covet and he is just starting to come into his own. He had a couple of big sack games last year and notched 7 for the season.

I haven't seen him personally so I don't know if he fits our system but it can't be worse than Browning.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Browning is basically Courtney Brown reincarnated, with less athletic ability, but stronger.

The Chiefsification of the Broncos begins.

[DBroncos4life]

I can't believe there was no thread started to say we should have signed this guy eariler! Seems like anyone that gets cut should be signed here!

To be fair I think some people just report name guys like Jon Bobbet getting cut and it goes from there.

[Muddled]

so none of the browns worked, so we are moving on to browning?



LOL

Hard worker sounds good to me, can't hurt

[ZachKC]

And you guys didn't get a first down until the 3rd quarter of your game against the Colts, or score a TD in your first game against us. What's your point again?

I thought my point was pretty simple.

I guess I can go slower for you.

Criticism of that nature against the Chiefs defense seems baseless coming from a Denver fan. It was obviously sophisticated enough to do good work against your offense.

Thats the point, again.

Nothing more, nothing less...before you start talking about something totally different as you OMers are prone to do.

[serious hops]

"Defensive lineman"? Umm... can you be more specific?

They list him that way because he's a 'tweener who's played both end and tackle. I'd say we're probably bringing him in for some veteran competition at DT. He's an overachiever in the mold of Mike Myers.

[Victor]

Can't be a bad idea. You guys didn't get a TD on the board until the 3rd qtr of your second game against us.

Ouch.

[Beantown Bronco]

They list him that way because he's a 'tweener who's played both end and tackle. I'd say we're probably bringing him in for some veteran competition at DT. He's an overachiever in the mold of Mike Myers.

Definitely a tweener on most teams, but I'd have to think he'll be a DT in Denver now with Bates....297 is way too big for a DE in Bates' scheme.

[BroncoBen]

John Browning is a hard worker. He may be too old, but you can expect that he will do his best everytime he is out there.

I think this was a good signing for the Broncos, Browning was always a hard worker. If he can stay healthy, he will provide some depth.

But unless he shows he is healthy and can bring it, I am not sure he nothing more than a pre-season practice body.

[sixtimeseight]

I thought my point was pretty simple.

I guess I can go slower for you.

Criticism of that nature against the Chiefs defense seems baseless coming from a Denver fan. It was obviously sophisticated enough to do good work against your offense.

Thats the point, again.

Nothing more, nothing less...before you start talking about something totally different as you OMers are prone to do.

Man, it's almost too easy sometimes.

[ZachKC]

I think this was a good signing for the Broncos, Browning was always a hard worker. If he can stay healthy, he will provide some depth.

But unless he shows he is healthy and can bring it, I am not sure he nothing more than a pre-season practice body.

I like Browning...he is a good guy. There really isn't a bad side to this for the Broncos. He could come in and do some things? And if not? No biggie.

[ZachKC]

Man, it's almost too easy sometimes.
I didn't think you could discuss football...

Go along and play with Bronx and 24champbailey at the little kids table.

[TallyBronco]

Why didn't Shanahan sign Richard Seymour?

Some of you seem to have a 5-minute perspective on everything. Any DE with starting skills was signed by June. Quit whining and stick the bottle back in your mouth.

[FrontRowSeat1]

Does not seem like anyone expected this to happen...is he any good?

[Tom A Hawk]

Browning is basically Courtney Brown reincarnated, with less athletic ability, but stronger.

The Chiefsification of the Broncos begins.

last time there was a Chiefs infusion there was the Bronco SB.

Print em......Browning taking the donks to the SB.

[Greybeard]

I wish I knew what the hell is going through the minds of the FO.

Let me get this straight...Gerard Warren not gonna cut it for us on the DL, but some no-name is going to fill the void that EE left? Gimme a frickin break.

This off season went from really exciting to really strange.

Next thing you know, Boob will be posting on this thread trying to convince us that this guy is a stud and that the scheme in KC preventing him from being a perennial pro bowler.
Well, the Cap situation is probably going to look a little better . . .

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[theAPAOps5]

I didn't think you could discuss football...

Go along and play with Bronx and 24champbailey at the little kids table.

Running out of room with you, Boob, and KCDud there. You at least venture over to the big boys table but still.

[ZachKC]

Running out of room with you, Boob, and KCDud there. You at least venture over to the big boys table but still.
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[theAPAOps5]

http://www.flint.lib.mi.us/teenzone/slam/images/slam.gif

Ok that is actually pretty funny! LOL

[DBroncos4life]

Ok that is actually pretty funny! LOL

Zac and Nap are the best trolls on the board.

[sixtimeseight]

I didn't think you could discuss football...

Go along and play with Bronx and 24champbailey at the little kids table.

Keep dancing, puppet.

[broncofan2438]

Well, i will try to be positive, he may work out for us, you never know

[ZachKC]

Keep dancing, puppet.

Its ok, really...not everyone is here to talk about the game of football.

Some people are interested in the lowest common denominator. But if you decide to put your big boy pants on and you get a few takes then drop me a PM and give me a heads up I would be happy to talk football with you. You don't even need to have a take really...get yours from a friend like FB. There are multiple ways to do this.

If none of that is your style then enjoy your Break.com videos with Bronx. Some of them are really funny.

[go_broncos]

I seriously think someone hijacked our old shanny and our head coach is someone fake...

I am becoming more and more suspicious when he traded Warren to Raiders.

I want some of the guys during interview ask questions about the past and see if he tells correct answer.

[RunSilentRunDeep]

I think we should take a look at this guy.

http://www.packers.com/team/players/williams_corey/

I'm hearing reports he is on the block. Seems like he has the big body we covet and he is just starting to come into his own. He had a couple of big sack games last year and notched 7 for the season.

I haven't seen him personally so I don't know if he fits our system but it can't be worse than Browning.

Looks like he makes plays. We don't want DTs that make plays, just fat guys with the ability to stand still. Hey, is Corey Simon ready to go!?

[Paladin]

To be fair I think some people just report name guys like Jon Bobbet getting cut and it goes from there.

Hilarious! :rofl: Hilarious!

[Broncos24]

John Browning is a hard worker. He may be too old, but you can expect that he will do his best everytime he is out there.

Yes first time you give a positive respond to a thread. Bravo.

[long beach bronco]

This is funny, we are done signing ex brown dlineman, but then we turn around and sign a guy named brown-ing. lol.

[Popps]

This move shows how truly desperate and weak Denvers DL is. Ekuban being hurt doesn't look good, but still it brings up a good point. Denver's DL has given up massive runs and TD's on the ground against teams that aren't revealing their playbook. They are also not getting much pressure on the QB which is gonna hurt your DB's if the QB has a long time in the pocket.

If this keeps up, then Denver could be in a lot of trouble


So, you're saying our D-line is a weak spot?

And people say KC Trolls aren't informative.

[sixtimeseight]

Its ok, really...not everyone is here to talk about the game of football.

Some people are interested in the lowest common denominator. But if you decide to put your big boy pants on and you get a few takes then drop me a PM and give me a heads up I would be happy to talk football with you. You don't even need to have a take really...get yours from a friend like FB. There are multiple ways to do this.

If none of that is your style then enjoy your Break.com videos with Bronx. Some of them are really funny.

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[crazyhorse]

http://www.arthursclipart.com/toys/toyscol/Puppet.gif

You're totally out of yoour league............2toes.

[crazyhorse]

To be honest, I dont see the upside Zack does in signing Browning. For sure he is a hard worker. But he couldn't take the job from any one of KCs D linemen over the last several seasons. It's no secret how Dline poor we have been for some time.

If he has something to offer the Broncos, then the Broncos are in worse shape than I thought on Dline.

[BigBad]

Nice pick up! LOL!

[Sodak]

To be honest, I dont see the upside Zack does in signing Browning. For sure he is a hard worker. But he couldn't take the job from any one of KCs D linemen over the last several seasons. It's no secret how Dline poor we have been for some time.

If he has something to offer the Broncos, then the Broncos are in worse shape than I thought on Dline.



That's a fair assessment.

[Drek]

Not a big surprise. We lose a power end in Ekuban, we bring someone else in to fill the roster spot.

There's no point going through the rest of preseason a man or two behind when you don't have to. A few weeks vet. minimum salary is pocket change to NFL organizations and you never know when you'll find a guy who's batteries are fully charged and has something ot prove.

Chances of Browning making the 53 man roster is probably somewhere between 0-1%. But he'll be here and providing a high effort veteran presence to practices and the remaining preseason games, that has some value. In exchange he gets his name back on the transaction ticker and improves the chances of catching on somewhere else if an injury occurs.

[elsid13]

To be honest, I dont see the upside Zack does in signing Browning. For sure he is a hard worker. But he couldn't take the job from any one of KCs D linemen over the last several seasons. It's no secret how Dline poor we have been for some time.

If he has something to offer the Broncos, then the Broncos are in worse shape than I thought on Dline.

That fair, but I think people are reading more into the signing then there is.

Right now Crowder is out, EE gone of the season, Adams is one a days, Moss's knee is still sore and Warren is gone. Right now they just need depth for practice and the preseason. A 11 year vet that hard worker provide that, plus might be able to teach the young guys what you need to do to stay in the league.

[crazyhorse]

Not a big surprise. We lose a power end in Ekuban, we bring someone else in to fill the roster spot.

There's no point going through the rest of preseason a man or two behind when you don't have to. A few weeks vet. minimum salary is pocket change to NFL organizations and you never know when you'll find a guy who's batteries are fully charged and has something ot prove.

Chances of Browning making the 53 man roster is probably somewhere between 0-1%. But he'll be here and providing a high effort veteran presence to practices and the remaining preseason games, that has some value. In exchange he gets his name back on the transaction ticker and improves the chances of catching on somewhere else if an injury occurs.

That all sounds good. But what's the sense in paying a years salary to a man who has a 1% chance of making the team. It sounds as if your saying the Broncos are bringing him in, paying him so he has an opportunity to catch on with another team.

[Broncos_OTM]

If browning can play with good leverage be able to plug gaps and he may get a look. someone said he is pretty strong. and is a over achiever. definetly couldnt help to take a look at him... although i dont know who is out there. i wish we were able to have gotten jenkins or whatever his name from Detroit

[Los Broncos]

Never heard of him

Make some plays then maybe ill remember you

[elsid13]

That all sounds good. But what's the sense in paying a years salary to a man who has a 1% chance of making the team. It sounds as if your saying the Broncos are bringing him in, paying him so he has an opportunity to catch on with another team.

He will only get a prorated value of money based upon the time he spend with the team, and no contract is guaranteed in the NFL. Little risk to the cap

[Victor]

I think that you have to give the front office the benefit of the doubt. They've seen this guy perform on tape and in person for over ten years. I would guess that they, for the most part, have liked what they've seen. He shouldn't be an unknown commodity.

Bring him on.

[SouthStndJunkie]

Great....a player from KC's vaunted '32 Defense'.

[Greybeard]

Great....a player from KC's vaunted '32 Defense'.
Colorado used to have its own "32" beer, reputed to have 3.2% alcohol that an
18-year-old could buy legally. (Actually had about 2.8% alcohol.) It never really
could do anything for you.

Is that the kind of 32 defense KC has?

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[broncos love]

Uhh :kiddingme :twitch: Who this?


See what happens when you ask them to sign a player...


Face it Shanny isn't going to bring in a player that will keep Moss on the bench.

Simeon Rice is 10 sacks easy.

Broncos are playing for 2008. That's cool, jsut don't try to sell me that it's all about 2007.

Lol. We have not even played are first game. unbelivable

[Drek]

That all sounds good. But what's the sense in paying a years salary to a man who has a 1% chance of making the team. It sounds as if your saying the Broncos are bringing him in, paying him so he has an opportunity to catch on with another team.

Players get paid weekly salaries that are just prorated portions of their base salary. There are no guarantees short of bonus money, of which I'm sure he got none.

And its not just to give him the chance to catch on with another team. Us bringing in Adam Meadows last camp was a similar situation, though he was there much sooner. We found that Meadows had a little juice left and so we kept him. Even if he hadn't he'd have been a veteran in camp to help the young guys. Browning isn't a stud but he is a full effort guy, just the type of influence you'd want to give a handful of young players who're likely going to see a ton more playing time with Ekuban out for the year.

[bpc]

Well when considering Bates plan to use Browning as a DT, it makes sense. Many Chop fans have chimed in saying he plays stronger than Courtney Brown did... thats quite a statement as I felt Brown was a bull. I think Bates idea is to bulk him up a little bit, use that strength down on the interior and see if he can stack and hold the point of attack, something our starting tackles have been terrible at thus far.

It might tack a few years onto Browning's career. Who knows? Look what a switch to DT has done for Keith Traylor's career. That guy just keeps playing.

[Sodak]

I keep seeing posts calling for Simeon Rice. I thought there were questions about his health. His shoulder specifically. If he was healthy, don't you think someone would have picked him up already? Has anyone brought him in for a physical?

[eddie mac]

He will only get a prorated value of money based upon the time he spend with the team, and no contract is guaranteed in the NFL. Little risk to the cap

Depending upon how many years he's had in the NFL there may be no cap hit whatsoever if there was no signing bonus and he doesn't make the final cutdown. He'll only get paid for the time he's here.

[KCStud]

So, you're saying our D-line is a weak spot?

And people say KC Trolls aren't informative.

yep. The Bronkies are giving up 10 YPG and 4.4 YPG with 4 TD's on the ground in 2 weeks against basic plays...that is a big cause for concern.

I can see this being a problem for Denver all season long

[cmhargrove]

yep. The Bronkies are giving up 10 YPG and 4.4 YPG with 4 TD's on the ground in 2 weeks against basic plays...that is a big cause for concern.

I can see this being a problem for Denver all season long

This week should tell us a little more about where we are. I really believe that Bates has been very basic in his gameplan because I remember the Miami teams he coached (I don't remember Green Bay so much). There was more pressure with more players, forcing the corners to be "out on an island" like we expect our guys to be.

I think our DT's have not been playing their expected roles (that is obvious), but the rest of the team has been held back a little. I expect to see a little more "attacking" this week, although I don't expect Bates to come out like the Cowboys did last week.

If I remember correctly, this is the plan. We have been "sitting back" and waiting for guys to feel their positions, but Bates' defenses are always classified as "attacking." We should see more action from the LB's and safeties this week. That should hopefully result in a little more QB pressure, clogged running lanes, and possibly INT's with Clevelands QB's all fighting to make big plays.

[broncsyanks]

yeah lets get this scmuck instead of a simeon rice. great idea

[Drek]

yeah lets get this scmuck instead of a simeon rice. great idea

Yeah, lets get a pass rush only DE who's on the wrong side of 30 when we have two pass rush DEs who're both 23, healthy, and combined make a fraction of what Rice is seeking.

Seriously? This calling for Simeon Rice wankery needs to end. He's trying to get back from a serious injury and offers the exact same skills we got in our 1st round draft pick this year and a 4th round pick last season. We're infinitely better off taking our chances with Dumervil and Moss producing and having them for the long term over stunting their growth and overpaying Rice in hopes he can stay healthy for more than half a season.

Strahan would be a different matter, he's an every down strong side end who would not only fill the role vacated by Ekuban, he'd upgrade it. However, he's also got an injury history and wants a huge payday. Not the most appealing option either.

Accept that guys like Browning are the signings we'll make now, hope that they push the more talented younger guys like Kennedy and Thomas to step it up, and stop praying for pipe dream crap that won't happen.

[DBroncos4life]

Rice has been out there for how long now? GMs must not think he has much left either.

[Greybeard]

Yeah, lets get a pass rush only DE who's on the wrong side of 30 when we have two pass rush DEs who're both 23, healthy, and combined make a fraction of what Rice is seeking.

Seriously? This calling for Simeon Rice wankery needs to end. He's trying to get back from a serious injury and offers the exact same skills we got in our 1st round draft pick this year and a 4th round pick last season. We're infinitely better off taking our chances with Dumervil and Moss producing and having them for the long term over stunting their growth and overpaying Rice in hopes he can stay healthy for more than half a season.

Strahan would be a different matter, he's an every down strong side end who would not only fill the role vacated by Ekuban, he'd upgrade it. However, he's also got an injury history and wants a huge payday. Not the most appealing option either.

Accept that guys like Browning are the signings we'll make now, hope that they push the more talented younger guys like Kennedy and Thomas to step it up, and stop praying for pipe dream crap that won't happen.
Can't add much to that . . . :thumbsup:

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[BroncoSoja]

This week should tell us a little more about where we are.

This week won't tell us anything we are playing the Browns... I say agian WE ARE PLAYING THE BROWNS (AT home to boot).

[Drek]

This week won't tell us anything we are playing the Browns... I say agian WE ARE PLAYING THE BROWNS (AT home to boot).

A Browns team that has several very capable OLs (Schaffer and Steinbach namely, but Fraley, McKinney, and Thomas aren't slouches) and a power RB (Jamaal Lewis).

Its exactly the type of situation we struggled with in Dallas and SF.

[Popcorn Sutton]

This week won't tell us anything we are playing the Browns... I say agian WE ARE PLAYING THE BROWNS (AT home to boot).

It wouldn't tell us anything if the Browns run the ball right down our throat like Dallas did? ???