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DeuceOfClub
08-20-2007, 01:25 PM
Enjoy. (http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=134)

bpc
08-20-2007, 01:31 PM
Interesting having Stokely in front of Marshall even though Marshall has now come back and started producing and Stokely has been sitting on the sideline.

I don't see Amon Gordon holding on Marcus Thomas for long. Plus with Ekuban out now, looks like Jarvis Moss will be starting. Good. I know rookies need time to adapt but I think its best that we get these guys up and running. I am a fan of throwing them in there and letting them learn. Bates will do what he needs to do with them.

I'm one of the guys that actually thinks DJ, Webster, and Gold could round into form. DJ just needs to become more consistent and we'll be fine. Webster brings the fire and Gold brings versatility. IMO we are a little shallow on depth.

OL is where we have the problems right now. We are paper thin in terms of depth. I think until Pears starts picking up his game, we have a definite weakness at RT with him and the injures Adam Meadows manning the spot. I can't wait to have Hamilton and Lepsis healthy on the right side.

Orange_Beard
08-20-2007, 01:32 PM
B. Stokley ahead of B. Marshall. Wow.

theAPAOps5
08-20-2007, 01:33 PM
Wonder why they are still listing Stokely above Marshall. Probably nothing but that was the only thing that really stuck out.

Billy Clyde Puckett
08-20-2007, 01:33 PM
Bet Lang takes EE's spot on the first team RDE until they are comfortable with the rookies.

SoDak Bronco
08-20-2007, 01:33 PM
Kuper is now back to starting right guard?

SoDak Bronco
08-20-2007, 01:35 PM
Looks like Kircus is going to be cut?? Also, Paul Smith moved up to back FB.

RunSilentRunDeep
08-20-2007, 01:36 PM
Stokley ahead of Marshall? Yeah, that will last. Interesting Kuper listed with the first team over Holland. Stephen Alexander over Scheffler another one that will change in the next two weeks.

Dos Rios
08-20-2007, 01:48 PM
Nate Jackson as the 5th TE. They might keep 6 wrs (Walker, Marshall, Stokely, Hixon, Clark and a spot for Rod Smith) and Alexander, Mustard and Leach should make the squad along with Graham and Scheffler. That's a lot of roster spots. Could Nate's magical ride finally be over?

Teyo Johnson never made a ripple.

HEAV
08-20-2007, 01:49 PM
This is Mason's (that dork) depth chart. He's full of it.

Drek
08-20-2007, 01:52 PM
Stokley ahead of Marshall? Yeah, that will last. Interesting Kuper listed with the first team over Holland. Stephen Alexander over Scheffler another one that will change in the next two weeks.

I don't think there's much doubt that Kuper will start at RG.

Stokley over Marshall seems like a motivational ploy to me, a reminder to Marshall of what happens when you spend too much time in the training room and not enough time on the field.

Looking pretty bad for Quincy Morgan, he's not even listed on the WR depth chart that goes 9 deep and doesn't include Smith. No way we keep him if all we think he can do is return.

broncosteven
08-20-2007, 02:02 PM
I don't think there's much doubt that Kuper will start at RG.

Stokley over Marshall seems like a motivational ploy to me, a reminder to Marshall of what happens when you spend too much time in the training room and not enough time on the field.

Looking pretty bad for Quincy Morgan, he's not even listed on the WR depth chart that goes 9 deep and doesn't include Smith. No way we keep him if all we think he can do is return.

I was sad to see Morgan not on WR depth chart. I would rather have him playing and on roster over Deadweight Terrell or Jerkus. Jerkus does not seem to be playing with same intensity as last year, IMO.

bronco militia
08-20-2007, 02:07 PM
Clark ahead of Hixon


I was right...hixon=Adrian Madise part 2

Beantown Bronco
08-20-2007, 02:10 PM
I'm a bit concerned that out #1 LT is playing hurt and our #2 LT can't even walk.

HEAV
08-20-2007, 02:16 PM
I won't get too excited until Week one depth chart...

broncosteven
08-20-2007, 02:17 PM
Clark ahead of Hixon


I was right...hixon=Adrian Madise part 2

Hixon also reminds me of Churwara last couple of years, everyone loved the guy but he never did anything to justify it.

Hixon is a project, I would start Clark or play him with 1st team to see just how good he really is. Guy was a monster in the Dallas game vs scrubs.

cutthemdown
08-20-2007, 02:19 PM
Outside of Bailey/Lynch/Bly the defense doesn't have any playmakers. It's going to be tough when the front seven hasn't one player that is a stud.

bronco militia
08-20-2007, 02:19 PM
Hixon also reminds me of Churwara last couple of years, everyone loved the guy but he never did anything to justify it.

Hixon is a project, I would start Clark or play him with 1st team to see just how good he really is. Guy was a monster in the Dallas game vs scrubs.


with two training camps and all the injuries at the position, I wouldn't take it as a good sign when you're moving down the depth chart. Plus, Hixon isn't even being used for return duties

Beantown Bronco
08-20-2007, 02:22 PM
This is pretty funny:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/depth_chart/

Anyone see anything missing here (and I'm not talking about LJ)? Did they do it on purpose?

JayBronc
08-20-2007, 02:25 PM
This is pretty funny:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/depth_chart/

Anyone see anything missing here (and I'm not talking about LJ)? Did they do it on purpose?

QB???

Grover
08-20-2007, 02:27 PM
This is pretty funny:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/depth_chart/

Anyone see anything missing here (and I'm not talking about LJ)? Did they do it on purpose?


That's hilarious! We always knew that there were no quarterbacks in KC. Let's trade em parsons for a 2nd round pick. Hilarious!

jebures
08-20-2007, 02:28 PM
This is pretty funny:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/depth_chart/

Anyone see anything missing here (and I'm not talking about LJ)? Did they do it on purpose?

haha no QB, well atleast they have accepted the truth Hilarious!

Beantown Bronco
08-20-2007, 02:28 PM
QB???

Exactly....for a team with a legit competition at the QB spot, you'd think they would actually list it....apparently the person who released the list is just as gutless as the players themselves.

BroncoBuff
08-20-2007, 02:29 PM
Montrae Holland was pretty bad Saturday night.

Greybeard
08-20-2007, 02:32 PM
I have the highest respect for Mason. He's been there every day with the team,
and he knows what he is talking about.

Anyway, I was mildly surprised with Scheffler at #3, but that has a lot to do
with football shape, I believe. Stokley was more of a surprise. But from the
raves coming out of camp, he appears back to his old self as a fine receiver.
Nonetheless, Marshall will likely take over #2 after he gets back into football
shape. It's no question that Cutler favors him a great deal.

The chart looks fine at O-line . . . assuming Hamilton and Lepsis can regain their
health and Pears returns to the level of play he demonstrated last year. I'm
beginning to wonder, however, whether Pears, even at 300+ lbs., is more
suitable for the left side. He seems to have quick feet, but if he had the power
to back up his heft, it would seem he would not get beaten so much on the
right side?

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HEAV
08-20-2007, 03:03 PM
This is pretty funny:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/depth_chart/

Anyone see anything missing here (and I'm not talking about LJ)? Did they do it on purpose?


Just more proof that NFL.com hires "Homers" to run the team sites.

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Mason is still a dork.

Broncoman13
08-20-2007, 03:12 PM
I have the highest respect for Mason. He's been there every day with the team,
and he knows what he is talking about.

Anyway, I was mildly surprised with Scheffler at #3, but that has a lot to do
with football shape, I believe. Stokley was more of a surprise. But from the
raves coming out of camp, he appears back to his old self as a fine receiver.
Nonetheless, Marshall will likely take over #2 after he gets back into football
shape. It's no question that Cutler favors him a great deal.

The chart looks fine at O-line . . . assuming Hamilton and Lepsis can regain their
health and Pears returns to the level of play he demonstrated last year. I'm
beginning to wonder, however, whether Pears, even at 300+ lbs., is more
suitable for the left side. He seems to have quick feet, but if he had the power
to back up his heft, it would seem he would not get beaten so much on the
right side?

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With Walker #1, Marshall #2, and a 'healthy' Stokely #3 we have an EXCELLENT trio of WR's. In fact, I'd say they are top 10 in the NFL. Problem is, can they stay healthy? Big "if" at this point. Couple them with a good weapon in Travis Henry and two TE's that can catch the ball well and you have a good recipe on offense. If the Secondary moves up (as they will) to stop Henry I think Jay will make some serious noise down field. When they start trying to protect themselves down field Henry will have some long runs. The key, OL. Right now I'm concerned, but it's early. Get these guys rested and healthy and our offense will be very potent. Potent enough to allow the Defense a few extra weeks to get themselves tuned in.

Honestly, the only concern I have on defense right now is the LB's. The underneath stuff is killing us. Our secondary can cover down field, but they aren't going to cover the entire field. The crossing routes and drag routes have to be accounted for by our LBs. Once that's figured out we should be better off in pass defense. Moss, Dumervil and even Engleberger were getting decent pressure, but receivers were opening up so quickly that they couldn't get to the QB. It's kind of contrary to what we've had in years past. Usually the receivers were covered but we couldn't get any pressure and that coverage wouldn't/couldn't last. Now we see quick openings...and those will be addressed soon. The run defense is another story. I'd like to see an agressive DJ Williams that is driving through RB's. There's no earthly reason he should get run over by Julius Jones. Come on DJ, let those instincts take over and play some football. Once he stops thinking out there he'll do much better, but Saturday night was UGLY! I really hope it's not the simple fact that he can't understand his responsibilities. I think Nate Webster would be better at MLB right now, but DJ's potential is through the roof. Hopefully that potential comes to realization!

RicksDawg
08-20-2007, 03:30 PM
Interesting having Stokely in front of Marshall even though Marshall has now come back and started producing and Stokely has been sitting on the sideline.

I don't see Amon Gordon holding on Marcus Thomas for long. Plus with Ekuban out now, looks like Jarvis Moss will be starting. Good. I know rookies need time to adapt but I think its best that we get these guys up and running. I am a fan of throwing them in there and letting them learn. Bates will do what he needs to do with them.

I'm one of the guys that actually thinks DJ, Webster, and Gold could round into form. DJ just needs to become more consistent and we'll be fine. Webster brings the fire and Gold brings versatility. IMO we are a little shallow on depth.

OL is where we have the problems right now. We are paper thin in terms of depth. I think until Pears starts picking up his game, we have a definite weakness at RT with him and the injures Adam Meadows manning the spot. I can't wait to have Hamilton and Lepsis healthy on the right side.

both Hamilton and Lepsis will be on the left side.

BroncoSoja
08-20-2007, 03:56 PM
B. Stokley ahead of B. Marshall. Wow.


No kidding, all those good things we have been seeing out of B. Marshall this preseason and in practices (hell even the Cowgirl fans where praising him) and also consider the fact that he wa the number 2 WR last year pretty much. And then you go and demote the guy and continue to do so....

If I was Marshall I would remember this crap come time to resign, make the Broncos pay out the pocket or pay by going to another team.

BroncsRule
08-20-2007, 04:12 PM
This is pretty funny:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/depth_chart/

Anyone see anything missing here (and I'm not talking about LJ)? Did they do it on purpose?

It's also pretty funny that Priest is listed 5th team as an "injured rookie".

bpc
08-20-2007, 04:39 PM
both Hamilton and Lepsis will be on the left side.

I slipped. Hello! :) Thanks for the cover.

crush17
08-20-2007, 04:52 PM
This is Mason's (that dork) depth chart. He's full of it.


Oh and who the f*ck are you buddy?

lol get a life!

footstepsfrom#27
08-20-2007, 04:56 PM
Looking pretty bad for Quincy Morgan, he's not even listed on the WR depth chart that goes 9 deep and doesn't include Smith. No way we keep him if all we think he can do is return.
I saw that too. Didn't he catch a TD pass in the game? I wonder what he's doing to fall behind David Terrell, who I have yet to see on the field? ???

I don't get the Anon Gordon thing...Burton looks like the better player to me.

HEAV
08-20-2007, 04:58 PM
Oh and who the **** are you buddy?

lol get a life!

LOL



:welcome: Hey Andrew...you lisp'n dork! ROFL!

Crushaholic
08-20-2007, 05:40 PM
B. Stokley ahead of B. Marshall. Wow.

It shows that experience still counts for something. As much as some people are salivating over Marshall, it's Stokley who knows how to play the WR position in the NFL.

DomCasual
08-20-2007, 05:44 PM
I was sad to see Morgan not on WR depth chart. I would rather have him playing and on roster over Deadweight Terrell or Jerkus. Jerkus does not seem to be playing with same intensity as last year, IMO.

I wouldn't talk like that about Kirkus. You don't know what he's capable of.

DomCasual
08-20-2007, 05:48 PM
Clark ahead of Hixon


I was right...hixon=Adrian Madise part 2

http://www.moonraker.com.au/techni/lightning.jpg

theAPAOps5
08-20-2007, 05:55 PM
No kidding, all those good things we have been seeing out of B. Marshall this preseason and in practices (hell even the Cowgirl fans where praising him) and also consider the fact that he wa the number 2 WR last year pretty much. And then you go and demote the guy and continue to do so....

If I was Marshall I would remember this crap come time to resign, make the Broncos pay out the pocket or pay by going to another team.

Well if he is upset about a preseason depth chart and uses it in contract negotiations then he is a little b****. But what do we know most of us didn't play some football down at S.C.L.S.U. for a season like some on this board... :rofl:


Also its important to note that Marshall on 2nd team is actually a move up. He was listed on the third team last time it came out I believe.

Rock Chalk
08-20-2007, 06:11 PM
Just more proof that NFL.com hires "Homers" to run the team sites.

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Mason is still a dork.

You are an idiot.

Team sites are run by the team, not the NFL. The domain names are owned by the NFL but the content on the websites of each team is run by someone hired by the TEAM. Andrew Mason is employed by Pat Bowlen, not the NFL Headquarters. Most teams contract out the site design to a web design firm (Creation Chamber did db.com) and a webmaster and possibly a content writer are employed by the team to handle the content of the website.

So of course each team's site is going to be run by homers. ****ing cluess dip****.

broncosteven
08-20-2007, 06:13 PM
I wouldn't talk like that about Kirkus. You don't know what he's capable of.

Your right! I am not standing at my property line for the next couple of nights. I may have to make sure I am on my property when ever I am outside the house.

broncosteven
08-20-2007, 06:15 PM
You are an idiot.

Team sites are run by the team, not the NFL. The domain names are owned by the NFL but the content on the websites of each team is run by someone hired by the TEAM. Andrew Mason is employed by Pat Bowlen, not the NFL Headquarters. Most teams contract out the site design to a web design firm (Creation Chamber did db.com) and a webmaster and possibly a content writer are employed by the team to handle the content of the website.

So of course each team's site is going to be run by homers. ****ing cluess dip****.

Alec has 3 monkeys who are responsible for his content.

They each get a banana when they post and do not use the term Fing Gy.

Rock Chalk
08-20-2007, 06:39 PM
Alec has 3 monkeys who are responsible for his content.

They each get a banana when they post and do not use the term Fing Gy.

Thats ****ing gay.

DomCasual
08-20-2007, 06:40 PM
Alec has 3 monkeys who are responsible for his content.

They each get a banana when they post and do not use the term Fing Gy.

If a monkey sat at a computer for eternity, hitting random keys, eventually he'd type War and Peace.

True story!

Three monkeys could probably whip it out in about eternity divided by three.

BroncoBuff
08-20-2007, 07:16 PM
Looking pretty bad for Quincy Morgan, he's not even listed on the WR depth chart that goes 9 deep and doesn't include Smith. No way we keep him if all we think he can do is return.
I noticed that too, but thought it must be an ommission. ???

Morgan has been excellent as a KR, and Clark tentative (he downed a very returnable KO Saturday when we were just 11 points behind). I'll bet they just left him off by mistake ... they're not perfect.

Drek
08-20-2007, 09:29 PM
Clark ahead of Hixon


I was right...hixon=Adrian Madise part 2

Hixon also reminds me of Churwara last couple of years, everyone loved the guy but he never did anything to justify it.

Hixon is a project, I would start Clark or play him with 1st team to see just how good he really is. Guy was a monster in the Dallas game vs scrubs.

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/user_images/pics/1/245000/ngbbs3c48f1755fcfb.jpg
"I have a mat the two of you might be interested in!"

Clark earned the bump up. He's got a lot of promise, which is why we had to protect him from Green Bay last year. I wouldn't hold it against Hixon though. When a guy is on IR he can only maintain conditioning, he can't practice with the team, so Hixon is basically a rookie while Clark is a second year guy. The fact that Kircus, Terrell, Morgan, etc. aren't even in the running with Hixon and Clark is pretty indicative of those two's talent level. Last year Kircus was our 4th WR, 3rd when Marshall was dinged up. Now he's probably getting cut.

Everyone was freaking out over the WR depth, but thats only because Rod and Marshall were out. Now that Marshall is back we're pretty solid there, if Rod can make it back any time within the first week or two of the regular season we'll be even better off. WR isn't a position of weakness on this team.

We should appreciate the fact that for the first time in a while our WR depth are actually football players. Clark and Hixon are capable special teamers, hell, Hixon was a standout safety when he was at Akron and would probably have had a shot in the NFL without changing positions. They aren't just track stars making NFL salaries, these guys are ballers who will do what it takes to get on the field.

Kaylore
08-20-2007, 10:04 PM
This is Mason's (that dork) depth chart. He's full of it.

RG 77 C. Kuper 70 M. Holland 72 K. McAlmont

HA HA HA!!!!!!!!

Seriously, though. Holland had a good game against Dallas, but Kuper is young, has a big bubble butt and tons of upside. The best guy should win, but my horse is Kuper!

Kaylore
08-20-2007, 10:07 PM
So of course each team's site is going to be run by homers. ****ing cluess dip****.
Andrew Mason is a Bucs fan. He grew up in Florida. Now depth charts for the site are official from the coaching staff, but during preseason they're little more than Shanahan's mind games. This could look nothing like the real deal come opening day.

BigPlayShay
08-20-2007, 10:15 PM
This is Mason's (that dork) depth chart. He's full of it.

http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/
Of note on the latest depth chart, released Sunday and found in the media release issued for the Cleveland preseason game Aug. 25:

… Brandon Marshall officially moved up to the second team. Fellow 2006 draftee Domenik Hixon is now with the third unit, while Brian Clark, who was the No. 3 receiver Saturday night, is listed behind Javon Walker with the second team. Brandon Stokley remains on the first unit …

… Guard Montrae Holland is listed as the second-unit right guard, although he has started both preseason contests; Chris Kuper remains listed as the first-teamer at the position …

… Gerard Warren is still listed on the first team, even though he has neither practiced nor played in any preseason games in the last 10 days. Amon Gordon, the starter next to Sam Adams in the last two games, is listed with the third team. Jimmy Kennedy and Marcus Thomas are shown with the second unit …

… Nate Webster is shown as the first-team strongside linebacker. Louis Green is with the second team. D.D. Lewis, who also saw substantial playing time on the strong side during training camp, is listed as the second-team middle linebacker …

… Jarvis Moss is listed with the second team, but the man in front of him at right defensive end is the injured Ebenezer Ekuban …

… Nate Jackson is listed as the fourth-team tight end, but he has started the last two games as the Broncos opened in two-tight end sets each time.

BroncoSoja
08-20-2007, 10:29 PM
Well if he is upset about a preseason depth chart and uses it in contract negotiations then he is a little b****. But what do we know most of us didn't play some football down at S.C.L.S.U. for a season like some on this board... :rofl:


Also its important to note that Marshall on 2nd team is actually a move up. He was listed on the third team last time it came out I believe.

And what was he last year? And what has he done to get demoted from that besides getting injured? Oh my bad, lets demote him for injuring himself!!

theAPAOps5
08-20-2007, 10:30 PM
And what was he last year? And what has he done to get demoted from that besides getting injured? Oh my bad, lets demote him for injuring himself!!

He wasn't demoted nimrod. Last week he was listed 3rd on the depth chart. He has moved up. Jesus, its a preseason depth chart, I am sure he knows he is the #2 WR on this team.

listopencil
08-21-2007, 12:48 AM
Wow. The D-Line is a heaping pile of ****...again.

listopencil
08-21-2007, 12:50 AM
**** it. Engleburger is gone for the season. Ekuban is hurt. Warren's been traded. Start all three rookies now. Might as well give them the experience.

listopencil
08-21-2007, 12:51 AM
By the way I am in favor of Stokely being ahead of Marshall.

listopencil
08-21-2007, 12:52 AM
Here's looking at you, 'mock.

bpc
08-21-2007, 02:21 AM
HA HA HA!!!!!!!!

Seriously, though. Holland had a good game against Dallas, but Kuper is young, has a big bubble butt and tons of upside. The best guy should win, but my horse is Kuper!

With Holland just being signed to a two year extension, don't be surprised if he has as much pull now as Kuper.

Holland has been playing really well from what i've seen.

Kaylore
08-21-2007, 02:52 AM
With Holland just being signed to a two year extension, don't be surprised if he has as much pull now as Kuper.

Holland has been playing really well from what i've seen.

He did get blown up on some plays, but the whole did in Dallas and has been pretty good. Kuper is where it's really at, though. As I said, I think the whole depth chart thing was to see how Kupe would handle it more than thinking Holland was better. Kuper had a good camp and then some growing pains and got benched. Now he needs to hole onto the starting spot and play lights out and our right side will settle down.

epicSocialism4tw
08-21-2007, 03:02 AM
Andrew Mason is a Bucs fan. He grew up in Florida. Now depth charts for the site are official from the coaching staff, but during preseason they're little more than Shanahan's mind games. This could look nothing like the real deal come opening day.


Yep.

Stokely is ahead of Marshall to prove a point. The vets get the benefit of the doubt. Marshall will have to earn it.

bpc
08-21-2007, 03:28 AM
He did get blown up on some plays, but the whole did in Dallas and has been pretty good. Kuper is where it's really at, though. As I said, I think the whole depth chart thing was to see how Kupe would handle it more than thinking Holland was better. Kuper had a good camp and then some growing pains and got benched. Now he needs to hole onto the starting spot and play lights out and our right side will settle down.

I've probably graded the first four drives from Dallas and i've only seen one bad play by Holland and that was partly Pears' fault.

I did flip on the Den/Dallas game in the 3rd quarter to watch Kuper some. There is a lot to like about him. He has a nice pop and seems pretty good getting to the 2nd level on run plays. I think he is far more inconsistent in the passing game vs. a guy like Holland. Holland is a rock. Kuper hasn't learned how to put it all together and struggles to consistently use his hands to ward off defenders.

If I had to go with one who should start right now FROM what i've seen, it would easily be Holland. He is the much better pass blocker and his run blocking is still good.

I'm not being biased, just be honest with what I saw.

HEAV
08-21-2007, 09:18 AM
HA HA HA!!!!!!!!

Seriously, though. Holland had a good game against Dallas, but Kuper is young, has a big bubble butt and tons of upside. The best guy should win, but my horse is Kuper!

Nothing like friendly competition brah! You guy vs my guy! :thumbsup:



What ever team Mason likes…he’s still a fruity lisp’n dork. :D

I put more credit into whom starts on the field not on paper.

HEAV
08-21-2007, 09:21 AM
**** it. Engleburger is gone for the season. Ekuban is hurt. Warren's been traded. Start all three rookies now. Might as well give them the experience.

Engelberger? When did he get hurt?

Ekuban is the one that out for the year.

Don't jinx it brah!:ouwknow:

no-pseudo-fan
08-21-2007, 09:57 AM
I think that Moss and Crowder will be starting by the end of the year.

theAPAOps5
08-21-2007, 10:12 AM
What ever team Mason likes…he’s still a fruity lisp’n dork. :D



Are you sure you are talking about Mason? I have never heard him talk. But I have heard Bill Williamson talk and he has the lisp. I think that is who you are thinking of.

Kaylore
08-21-2007, 10:19 AM
Are you sure you are talking about Mason? I have never heard him talk. But I have heard Bill Williamson talk and he has the lisp. I think that is who you are thinking of.

Mason doesn't have a lisp and he's always been very nice to everyone. Not sure what HEAV's problem with him is.

HEAV
08-21-2007, 11:09 AM
Mason doesn't have a lisp and he's always been very nice to everyone. Not sure what HEAV's problem with him is.

Remember when he did those video camp reports. He sounded lispy when he talked, not to mention fruity. :rofl:

Drek
08-21-2007, 11:48 AM
Yep.

Stokely is ahead of Marshall to prove a point. The vets get the benefit of the doubt. Marshall will have to earn it.
Or it could just be that the coaching staff wants Marshall running the primary WR assignments/routes at this point, which he isn't taking away from Javon.

There is a difference in how we use our #1 and #2 WRs, not just the #3 guy out of the slot. Our #1 WR routes and assignments are geared around Walker. Stokley can't match that skill set. Marshall can. At the same time Stokley is a great fit for what we've been doing with Rod over the last few years.

Also consider the chemistry issue. Its quite obvious that Cutler and Marshall are pretty much on the same page, but Stokley is a new target he's still getting familiar with. Better to have them getting as many reps together to make sure they're ready to roll come the regular season. Meanwhile Marshall is the "go to guy" on the second team. That means he'll get a lot of looks when the second team WRs are in.

I doubt Brandon Marshall is stewing over only being the #3 WR. He'll just have a little extra incentive to prove that he's the #2 before the end of camp, making him work harder and play a little tougher through some of that lingering pain.

Greybeard
08-21-2007, 01:37 PM
Remember when he did those video camp reports. He sounded lispy when he talked, not to mention fruity. :rofl:
Must be your ears. Lacerated ear drums, maybe?

I've heard Mason talk many times. No lisp. Nor does he sound "fruity" to me.

Besides, what if someone does have a lisp? What if some poster taking part
here has a lisp? What if I have a lisp?

I remember kids through the junior high level or so, making fun of others who
had physical infirmities or irregularities. However, by the time I was in high
school, most of the kids had outgrown that.

You're more mature than that, aren't you?

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Odysseus
08-21-2007, 03:50 PM
Remember when he did those video camp reports. He sounded lispy when he talked, not to mention fruity. :rofl:

:spit: Poor Mason! Beware the wrath of the HEav!

Mason is a good guy from all accounts but please find me a journalist who isn't a little bit twisted. I worry about Kaylore. All that exposure to those lispy wounded alter boys with hidden agendas can't be healthy.

kmonty
08-21-2007, 04:47 PM
Watching Holland, I have NO CLUE why he was dropped down the depth chart. In San Francisco he plain blew up his man play after play, leveling one guy to the floor (with help from Tommy Nails), getting to the second level... opening up huge holes for T. Henry.

I know the fans love our draft-picked linemen, but I'm tired of seeing Erik Pears giving up blocks at RT and backup LG Chris Myers just being plain awful. Kuper has looked good against the second teams, but Holland has looked just as good, if not better, against first teams.

I can't watch practices like the guys here at OrangeMane, but from preseason games I would go with Lepsis, Hamilton, Nalen, Holland and Meadows, if he can get healthy.

HEAV
08-21-2007, 05:25 PM
Must be your ears. Lacerated ear drums, maybe?

I've heard Mason talk many times. No lisp. Nor does he sound "fruity" to me.

Besides, what if someone does have a lisp? What if some poster taking part
here has a lisp? What if I have a lisp?

I remember kids through the junior high level or so, making fun of others who
had physical infirmities or irregularities. However, by the time I was in high
school, most of the kids had outgrown that.

You're more mature than that, aren't you?

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Actually I’m not… It’s a Frick’n goof dude. I get that your old (over 60) but its all tongue and cheek humor. But the guy does look a little fruity Ha!

http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/andrew_mason_header.jpg (http://s2.supload.com/free/andrew_mason_header.jpg/view/)

Drek
08-21-2007, 06:54 PM
Watching Holland, I have NO CLUE why he was dropped down the depth chart. In San Francisco he plain blew up his man play after play, leveling one guy to the floor (with help from Tommy Nails), getting to the second level... opening up huge holes for T. Henry.

I know the fans love our draft-picked linemen, but I'm tired of seeing Erik Pears giving up blocks at RT and backup LG Chris Myers just being plain awful. Kuper has looked good against the second teams, but Holland has looked just as good, if not better, against first teams.

I can't watch practices like the guys here at OrangeMane, but from preseason games I would go with Lepsis, Hamilton, Nalen, Holland and Meadows, if he can get healthy.

Meadows has gotten beat like a drum since we added him last year. He was crap before getting hurt when he replaced Foster, he's been a disappointment all through camp, and he hasn't shown a damn thing in preseason games to make us think he flips the switch come game time.

Meanwhile Pears was a very solid LT for 10 games last year, had an ok camp, and has been inconsistent this preseason while splitting snaps between RT, LT, and even a little guard.

I think we should hold off on judging Pears until we see what he plays like with a consistent presence at RG next to him. I wouldn't mind if that was Holland, who'd open some big holes in the running game and make us much more powerful in the red zone, but Kuper has his own upside, namely that he's a very capable pass blocker.

listopencil
08-21-2007, 07:31 PM
Engelberger? When did he get hurt?

Ekuban is the one that out for the year.

Don't jinx it brah!:ouwknow:

What? I thought I heard on ESPN radio that Engleberger was out for the year and Ekuban was banged up. I'll calm back down now...

Greybeard
08-21-2007, 07:43 PM
Actually I’m not… It’s a Frick’n goof dude. I get that your old (over 60) but its all tongue and cheek humor. But the guy does look a little fruity Ha!

http://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/andrew_mason_header.jpg (http://s2.supload.com/free/andrew_mason_header.jpg/view/)
OOOOOOooooolllllllldddd?? Why you young whipersnapper!!

Put
----------'em
-----------------up!



*cough* *cough* :redpunch:



:olddude:



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HEAV
08-21-2007, 10:10 PM
What? I thought I heard on ESPN radio that Engleberger was out for the year and Ekuban was banged up. I'll calm back down now...


Nah Listo,

Ekuban is done for the year. THe great white hope of DE's lives! :wiggle:

Henry and Mike Bell are banged,bruised and beat up.

Spider
08-21-2007, 10:11 PM
Doesnt shock me Stokley is ahead of Marshal ..Stokley is one of them vets that always gets open ........

HEAV
08-21-2007, 10:13 PM
OOOOOOooooolllllllldddd?? Why you young whipersnapper!!

Put
----------'em
-----------------up!



*cough* *cough* :redpunch:



:olddude:



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LOL


give me 30 years ad I'll be there also! Ha!

cutthemdown
08-29-2007, 08:50 PM
By the way I am in favor of Stokely being ahead of Marshall.

der which way did he go george!!!!!! DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stokely is a washed up turd. If we have to rely on him we are in trouble.