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55CrushEm
08-18-2007, 11:25 AM
Good article on Bailey...it was posted today on sportsline.com.....didn't see a thread yet about it.....

Camp tour: Broncos' deluxe corner Champ just about undisputed Aug. 18, 2007
By Mike Freeman
CBS SportsLine.com National Columnist


An NFL head coach tells this story and it says a lot about Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey.

Several years ago this coach's team was playing Denver. At one point in the game, during a timeout, the quarterback and coach began discussing what plays to run next. Some of the suggestions included throws in the direction of Bailey. The coach interrupted.

"Don't throw at him, period," the coach recalled telling his quarterback.

"Why not?" the quarterback asked.

"Just don't (expletive) do it," the coach responded.

The quarterback threw in the direction of Bailey anyway and Bailey almost intercepted the pass. The quarterback never threw at Bailey for the remainder of the game. Lesson learned.

There might be dozens of stories like that and no one -- like this coach -- wants to admit they are terrified of going at Bailey, but many quarterbacks and coaches are. Indeed, more than a few teams give Bailey the Deion Sanders treatment. They stay as far away from Bailey as possible once the game begins.

This does not mean that Bailey is some unbeatable force. No, check that. He practically is.

"You really don't know how good he is until you see him in person and play him," said Denver quarterback Jay Cutler.

"He's not content just being a great player," said coach Mike Shanahan of Bailey, "he wants to be the best player."

Bailey sets his standards so high he says that his goal this year is to get more interceptions than he did last season. Well, last year Bailey had 10 interceptions. Ten. Despite being rarely thrown at. He thinks he can really do better than that?

"It's possible," Bailey said.

With Bailey anything is possible.

In fact, because sports has become more about who talks the most, and dances post-touchdown the best, a player like Bailey, while appreciated, can sometimes be vastly underrated by fans because he can be fairly quiet.

The only players in the NFL better than Bailey are Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and LaDainian Tomlinson.

More than that, when Bailey's career is done there is a great chance he could end up being better than the best cornerback in NFL history: Deion Sanders.

Yes, Bailey that good and yes, Sanders is the best. My top five corners: Sanders, Bailey, Mel Blount, Mike Haynes, Night Train Lane and Rod Woodson (who just edges out Willie Brown).

Bailey could one day top Sanders, because with apologies to Primetime, Bailey is a ferocious tackler in addition to master cover guy. Last season Bailey had 84 solo tackles.

Despite rarely being thrown at, Bailey has impressive numbers. Since joining the Broncos in 2005 he has totaled 18 interceptions, the most by an NFL player in a two-year stretch since Everson Walls in 1981-82. Champ earned his seventh straight Pro Bowl bid last season. He has missed just two games in his NFL career and has 126 starts, second only to Tampa Bay's Ronde Barber (127) among active corners.

His combination of speed, toughness, tackling ability and cover skills make Bailey as good as any corner who has ever played.

Things will get interesting for the Denver defense this season because the Broncos added Dre' Bly to the other corner spot. Bly is no Bailey but he's good, and his presence will make it more difficult for teams to avoid Bailey. That could lead to even more interceptions for him.

And more history as Bailey continues to make his case for being the best cornerback football has ever seen.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10298060

orangenblue2
08-18-2007, 11:42 AM
F'n A...:thumbs:

epicSocialism4tw
08-18-2007, 11:45 AM
Well...these national guys couldnt avoid the topic forever.

Greybeard
08-18-2007, 12:23 PM
Good article and on the money regarding Champ.

Can't agree with Freeman about Deion, though. Deion may be (up until Champ,
at least) the greatest deep cover corner in history. But I watched him get
beaten like a throw rug on some short routes and across the middle. And he
couldn't tackle my mother. I would have put Deion at the end of Freeman's list,
not at the front of it. (Willie Brown would go there, for my money.)

But it's all subjective when it comes to this G.O.A.T. business. I realize that.

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Willynowei
08-18-2007, 04:16 PM
Love the dude who commented on the article and noticed that at this point in the first 8 years of Champ Bailey's career vs. Deion Sanders;

Champ Bailey has more tackles, more interceptions, more pass defended and only 2 less defensive touchdowns. Its pretty scary when you realize how long corners can play and see that Champs got sooo many more years left.

goldengopher1976
08-18-2007, 04:37 PM
Yes, Bailey that good and yes, Sanders is the best. My top five corners: Sanders, Bailey, Mel Blount, Mike Haynes, Night Train Lane and Rod Woodson (who just edges out Willie Brown).

Hmmm...let's see, his top 5 are:
1. Sanders
2. Bailey
3. Blount
4. Haynes
5. Lane
6. Woodson

Anyone else see something wrong with this "top 5"?

s0phr0syne
08-18-2007, 04:41 PM
I don't know why, but I'm really scarred of Bailey having an off year. The expectations have been set so high by the last 2 seasons that I just can't fathom a repeat performance.


But I'm probably just being paranoid/skittish for no reason.

Sassy
08-18-2007, 04:50 PM
The only players in the NFL better than Bailey are Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and LaDainian Tomlinson.
Hmmm...not sure about that statement.
How can you compare RB/QB's to a Corner?

OrangeShadow
08-18-2007, 05:04 PM
The only players in the NFL better than Bailey are Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and LaDainian Tomlinson.

only part i dont agree with, champ is the best player in football. period.

tsiguy96
08-18-2007, 05:23 PM
The only players in the NFL better than Bailey are Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and LaDainian Tomlinson.

only part i dont agree with, champ is the best player in football. period.

yea its kinda ridiculous that at first he says champ is possibly the best corner of ALL TIME, then says there are 3 better current football players in the NFL?

epicSocialism4tw
08-18-2007, 05:27 PM
Champ is now neck and neck with Sanders in even the national guys' mind. That's quite an accomplishment given that Champ is at a such a heavy disadvantage. While I would personally say that Champ is easily the better player, Sanders sold himself as a flashy personality and dominated NFL coverage for years. Champ has that playing against him and always will.

People remember the highlights. Nobody outside of committed Denver fandom knows that Champ carried a Broncos team to the AFC Championship on two bad shoulders buttressed by a bad hamstring. The media only caught the end of that when Champ squashed Brady with an end-zone pick and a 100 yard return in a play that was representative of that entire season.

I have never seen another defensive back carry a team. Ever.

In that season, Champ raised the bar much higher than Sanders ever could.

A look at Champ's numbers and contributions over the past three seasons shows a player that in his prime is in a strata all his own. By the time Champ retires, he should lead Sanders in Sanders' marquee statistical categories: interceptions and interception TD's. When people look at the two in contrast at that point, they will have to rationalize why Sanders stands up to a statistically superior Bailey. Combined with the knowledge that Bailey played in an era where CB's played at a significant disadvantage, it will be hard to make a case for Sanders.

By the time Bailey hangs 'em up, I have no doubt that he will be considered the greatest DB of all-time and also one of the greatest defensive players ever.

dsmoot
08-18-2007, 07:07 PM
Good article on Bailey...it was posted today on sportsline.com.....didn't see a thread yet about it.....

Camp tour: Broncos' deluxe corner Champ just about undisputed Aug. 18, 2007
By Mike Freeman
CBS SportsLine.com National Columnist

Bailey could one day top Sanders, because with apologies to Primetime, Bailey is a ferocious tackler in addition to master cover guy. Last season Bailey had 84 solo tackles.

And more history as Bailey continues to make his case for being the best cornerback football has ever seen.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10298060


News Flash! Bailey is better than Deion RIGHT NOW. I have great respect for Sanders cover skills. I just saw too many big tight ends and running backs going down the side line and Deion running with them and not agressively meeting them at the point of attack. It was like watching a Matador. OLE. Champ is the best tackler on the Broncos and technically is as good as anyone in the NFL. As a cover guy, I think Champ is as good as Deion. I know that is a debate. If I was building an NFL team and could pick between the two in his prime, I would pick Champ. The only way Deion stands above Champ is his return skills.

55CrushEm
08-18-2007, 08:03 PM
I don't know why, but I'm really scarred of Bailey having an off year. The expectations have been set so high by the last 2 seasons that I just can't fathom a repeat performance.


But I'm probably just being paranoid/skittish for no reason.

But if Champ's int #s go down, that isn't the whole story. As long as he is being avoided by opposing QBs, then he's doing his job.....well.