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dragondawg
08-17-2007, 06:56 PM
by Justin Yost

Mike Shanahan has coached the Denver Broncos for 12 consecutive seasons. During 11 of those seasons, Shanahan has had a 1,000 yard rusher (the lone exception was an 8-8, 2001 campaign, with a struggling Terrell Davis, who garnered only 701 yards). He’s propelled the likes of Terrell Davis, Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Clinton Portis, Reuben Droughns and Tatum Bell to the prominence of 1000 yard rushers and parlayed that “talent” into 2 Superbowls (Terrell Davis) and stud corners (Champ Bailey and Dre Bly). I would ask how anyone thinks Shanahan has done this, but most of you probably already know: He’s constructed an athletic offensive line and maintained it for years. The proof is in Shanahan’s pudding, he’s built the line, provided the tools and taught his backs how to use it.

With fantasy drafting now in season, fantasy owners turn to the Broncos for their typical heartbreak, however this year Denver seemingly intends to feature running back Travis Henry, a straight ahead runner with something to prove. Moreover, as a football fan, I am once again reminded of the Denver Broncos’ offensive line, something even my own father has called out numerous times, for the better part of a decade. Greg Easterbrook, ESPN Page 2 Guest Writer, boils down Denver’s running game in his most recent Tuesday Morning Quarterback segment into two components: “at-the-knees blocking designed to injure opponents and a one-cut rule for running backs.” My dad, on the other hand, has been angrily hating the Denver Broncos for the better part of 20 years for 2 other reasons: John Elway’s shafting of the Indianapolis Colts and Shanahan’s “colorful” blocking schemes. Additionally, my the old an used to feel the same way about some of the Steve Young led 49ers teams, who coincidently enough, was coached on the offensive side of the ball by an even less noticeable Shanahan.

What makes Denver’s line so special is a combination of things. Denvers line features Matt Lepsis, Ben Hamilton, Tom Nalen, Chris Kuper and Erik Pears, whith only Kuper and Pears top the 300 pound mark (and not by much, with Pears tipping the scales at 305). More importantly, all Broncos’ lineman can bench well over 300 lbs, except for Erik Pears. Pears’s most recent bench press registered at 225 lbs, however this was a pre-combine, as during the combine Pears had a torn labrum and did not attempt a bench press. Tom Nalen leads the Denver line with a 505 lbs max. Denver’s line weighs just a hair below 1,500 lbs and averages about 296 lbs per lineman, whereas the line can collectively bench 1,865 lbs or an average of 373 (yes, the line can essentially bench itself). The Broncos’ line is, by design, strong, athletic and light.

By comparison, the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line, known has one of the heaviest in the league features William Thomas, Todd Herremans, Jamaal Jackson, Shawn Andrews, and Jon Runyan, none of which weigh less than 320 lbs and both Thomas and Andrews tipping the scales at 335 lbs, a solid 30 lbs more than the heaviest Denver model. Their total weight is 1,651 lbs for an average of 330 lbs, among the highest in the league. Both teams are considered to have one of the best lines in the league, and both philosophies have produced results.

Of course, the largest reason that the Denver Broncos’ line is so dominant, isn’t necessarly an architecture philosophy, but rather Mike Shanahan’s infamous “Zone Blocking” scheme in combination with an extremely modified and run heavy “West Coast Offense,” a concept originally designed by the San Francisco 49ers’ Head Coach and General Manager, the late Bill Walsh. To truly understand how the technique works and why the Broncos’ employ it, you must first understand “Zone Blocking” and how it compares to the more widely used “Man Blocking” scheme.

Man blocking is essentially exactly what it sounds like. Each offensive lineman is paired with a defender depending on the situation (man to man). However, the assignments and rules of the scheme change depending on the play and the impending defensive front. And it can become especially confusing as defenses adjust and audible depending on the offensive display. As each blocker moves his defender, holes are created and the running back than pushes through (hopefully) a hole, depending on the play, creating a positive yardage gain.

Zone blocking is different in many ways. For one, the blocking assignments and rules do not change as defenses adjust, making the scheme and particular play easier to remember. Zone blocking works in only a few easy steps. Once the ball is snapped, each lineman (typically a group of 3 or 4, including the Tight End) takes a short step in the same direction at a slight and approximate 45 degree angle (lets say right for the example). The next step is then a push forward with his left foot (in this example) and he then proceeds to push, creating room and hogging defenders as he moves forward. The goal of the shift and push is to prevent defenders from crossing the lineman’s body, however defenders do manage to elude lineman in many cases. Should a defender elude the lineman, the lineman then performs a “cut block,” a scheme in which the lineman lowers his shoulder into the defender’s knees, attempting to take his feet out from under him and neutralize the defender. From there, depending on what happens on a particular play, the running back runs in the direction of the linemen’s first step, however, he may adjust depending of the defense’s reaction. Cut blocking, of course, is truly the most controversial part of the offensive scheme. By nature, a cut block from the side isn’t inherently dangerous (and is perfectly legal), however many teams that employ zone blocking schemes also have a tendency to not always cut from the side (rather from behind), roll up on defenders’ legs, cut block away from the play, and the cut block itself is performed in a dangerous manor. Denver’s scheme performs cut blocks seemingly more often and with more notice than any other team in the league (Houston and Green Bay also use Zone blocking schemes, with much less fanfare).

Other tactics that teams have accused Denver of employing include “chop blocks” and “leg whips.” A chop block is block in which a lineman engages a defender as another lineman goes low on the defender. The results can be very dangerous and are a finable offense in the NFL (as Tom Nalen was fined last year). The other infamous tactic, the leg whip is much simpler and is not truly legal in the NFL unless more than one player is involved. This tactic was most infamously used by those classic eighties 49ers squads coached by the aforementioned Bill Walsh.

Rick Dennison, Denver’s offensive line coach for Shanahan’s entire tenure was asked via e-mail by a fan on the Broncos’ Team Website: “I don’t see the Broncos blocking any differently than any other team in the league, but it seems every year teams call the Broncos dirty. Is there something the offensive line in Denver does that no other team is doing?” And of course Mr. Dennison’s corporate response was: “No, many teams employ the same schemes that we use. That reputation started years ago and still lingers.”

Since 2001, Denver has been responsible for numerous bumps and bruises for defensive linemen. While linemen on both sides of the ball have similar injury rates among broken bones, tears and ruptures of tendons, the rate of subtle injuries such as contusions and bruises is much more frequent among defenders forced to handle zone blocking schemes featuring cut (and chop) blocking.

October 21, 2001 – Matt Lepsis performed a cut block on former Bronco Maa Tanuvasa, Tanuvasa has not played a regulation NFL down since.

October 28, 2001 – Denver lineman Dan Neil was accused of clipping the back of New England Patriots’ linebacker Bryan Cox and breaking his leg. Neil denied the accusation. Cox played 1 more NFL season (of 11 total) for the New Orleans Saints, registering nine games and 4 tackles

December 1, 2002– Bronco’s guard Steve Herndon blocked San Diego Chargers defensive tackle Jamal Williams from behind, dislocating his ankle. Williams still plays for the Chargers today.

October 24, 2004 – George Foster, Broncos tackle performed a cut block on Cincinnati Bengals’ defensive tackle Tony Williams. A cut block that even JuTMSY4’s favorite whipping boy, Joe Theismann noted was foul. Williams signed with the Jacksonville Jaguars in 2005 after missing the rest of the 2004 season with Cincinnati. He has not played a regulation NFL down since the injury.

November 19, 2006 – Igor Olshansky, a defensive end for the Chargers was fined $10,000 for punching Broncos’ center Tom Nalen. Olshansky claimed Nalen attempted a cut block him on “a clock-stopping spike play.” Nalen was subsequently fined $25,000 for the play, two and one half times the fine for Olshansky.

Shanahan’s Broncos can run the ball, its something few teams can argue, but is it right? The NFL was already suggested it will watch Shanahan and his Broncos blocking schemes more closely now, but regardless of reputation the actions of these lines have already made themselves clear. Legal or not, cut blocking is a serious threat to NFL players in the trenches.

http://www.armchairgm.com/index.php?title=Shanahan%E2%80%99s_Game:_Running_t he_Ball_the_Wrong_Way. (http://www.armchairgm.com/index.php?title=Shanahan%E2%80%99s_Game:_Running_t he_Ball_the_Wrong_Way)

theAPAOps5
08-17-2007, 07:00 PM
Oh poor writer his daddy thinks the Broncos are just big meanies. Better start hating more teams as the cut block is used on all of them and more and more teams use the zone block system.

I am just curious but when tacklers need to take a big guy down they go low to take the legs out, thats at the knees.

(Jae)
08-17-2007, 07:06 PM
1.According to the article........ We're considered to have one of the best Line's in the league this year?
News to me.

2. Nalen can bench 505........damn

Sodak
08-17-2007, 07:09 PM
Who's this whiny fag Justin Yost? Someone prints a version of this article every year.

baja
08-17-2007, 07:25 PM
He said Deninson has been the line coach for the entire tenure of Shanahan. Anyone that does not know the role Gibbs played with the Broncos does not really know the Broncos.

smalltowngrll
08-17-2007, 07:30 PM
Apparently you stole the text! ROFL! I click the link, and it says "There is no text on this page"

Inkana7
08-17-2007, 08:15 PM
Damn cheating donkies. Whatever comes to them they deserve! Karma I tell ya! They cheat! They're cheaters! Know why we can't stop their run game? They cheat! Their only goal is to hurt people!

I figured I'd get the trolls started.

listopencil
08-17-2007, 08:48 PM
"While linemen on both sides of the ball have similar injury rates among broken bones, tears and ruptures of tendons, the rate of subtle injuries such as contusions and bruises is much more frequent among defenders forced to handle zone blocking schemes featuring cut (and chop) blocking."


This says it all. This "writer" just regurgitated yet another version of the same groupthink article that has been floating around for years. Also-apparently you can now add anything you want to a line of an article, true or not, as long as you put it in parenthesis. So I could imply that this "writer" makes passionate love to his wife (and camel) whenever possible.

theAPAOps5
08-17-2007, 09:16 PM
Apparently you stole the text! ROFL! I click the link, and it says "There is no text on this page"

Its there you just had to go find it as the link was broken. I think he fixed it though as I clicked and it went right there.

Atlas
08-17-2007, 09:39 PM
every year Denver gets these article.... Hell, every week an oppossing teams beat writer is going to write this same article. It's nothing new.

Rock Chalk
08-17-2007, 09:43 PM
Well its football season at least.

The whine is in full effect on the cut-blocking Denver employs.

RunByDesign
08-17-2007, 10:03 PM
Well ain't that a B?

Bob's real name is Justin Yost?

Queer.

rovolution
08-17-2007, 10:08 PM
Colts fans still havent gotten over Elway shafting them?

They got Peyton, so get over it loosers.

Broncos4Life
08-17-2007, 10:37 PM
Cry me a ****ing river....

bronco militia
08-17-2007, 10:59 PM
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8650/cutblockzh3.gif

Kaylore
08-17-2007, 11:11 PM
Other tactics that teams have accused Denver of employing include “chop blocks” and “leg whips.” A chop block is block in which a lineman engages a defender as another lineman goes low on the defender. The results can be very dangerous and are a finable offense in the NFL (as Tom Nalen was fined last year).
What flagrant lie. Nalen wasn't even fined for chop blocking last year. He as fined for cut blocking Whineshansky after he kept punching Cooper Carlisle in the head.

ZONA
08-17-2007, 11:34 PM
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8650/cutblockzh3.gif

That's how it works most of the time. The blocker doesn't go into the guy but rather dives to an area on the ground in front of the defender. Some defenders are more atheltic then others and can get their hands low to help regain balance and they jump over the diving linemen. It does slow them down initially and that's the goal of the cut block. It's not to take legs out, it's to keep that defender from flowing to the ball standing straight up. The hope is that the defender trips over your body, or at the very least, slows down a bit to avoid from tripping and then makes a move backwards to go around or to jump over you. In either case, the defender is not flowing to the ball at full force with top speed. Job done. Pefectly legal. Nuff said.

Xenos
08-18-2007, 01:22 AM
What flagrant lie. Nalen wasn't even fined for chop blocking last year. He as fined for cut blocking Whineshansky after he kept punching Cooper Carlisle in the head.

There was a lot of crap that was going on both sides. Igor just got extra pissed because of his recent knee surgery.

JCMElway
08-18-2007, 01:41 AM
I remember the Foster play on Williams. That was one of the dirtiest plays I have seen. I'm really glad Foster isn't in the Orange and Blue anymore.

KipCorrington25
08-18-2007, 01:46 AM
Denver's success keeps the Queefs fan base intact. They can cry to each other about how we "cheat", it's the tie that binds them together.

Lev Vyvanse
08-18-2007, 01:51 AM
There was a lot of crap that was going on both sides. Igor just got extra pissed because of his recent knee surgery.

Maybe that prick will think twice before he decides to use someones kidney as a punching bag.

Binkythefrog
08-18-2007, 01:55 AM
We hear about it all the time in the media, yet I read few comments from opposing players or coaches about cut blocking except for Williams and Olshansky.

If the Broncos o-line is so dirty and terrible, then why in this SI poll of dirtiest players (2006) are there no Bronco o-linemen? I guess its jealousy.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/players/10/17/poll.1017/

tsr28
08-18-2007, 01:57 AM
There was a lot of crap that was going on both sides. Igor just got extra pissed because of his recent knee surgery.

That the same guy that blew up Carson Palmer's knee?

rovolution
08-18-2007, 02:50 AM
That the same guy that blew up Carson Palmer's knee?

Nope. that Kimo VanOffel-Something.

Plays for the Jets now.

footstepsfrom#27
08-18-2007, 03:03 AM
What makes Denver’s line so special is a combination of things. Denvers line features Matt Lepsis, Ben Hamilton, Tom Nalen, Chris Kuper and Erik Pears, whith only Kuper and Pears top the 300 pound mark (and not by much, with Pears tipping the scales at 305). More importantly, all Broncos’ lineman can bench well over 300 lbs, except for Erik Pears. Pears’s most recent bench press registered at 225 lbs, however this was a pre-combine, as during the combine Pears had a torn labrum and did not attempt a bench press.
Why would anyone read this drivel past this point? What a load of horse****. ROFL!

elsid13
08-18-2007, 07:38 AM
I remember the Foster play on Williams. That was one of the dirtiest plays I have seen. I'm really glad Foster isn't in the Orange and Blue anymore.

The problem with Foster wasn't that he was dirty, but rather he hesitated and then failed to execute the block correctly. If he had done it the proper way, it would have been a good play.

Mediator12
08-18-2007, 08:50 AM
The problem with Foster wasn't that he was dirty, but rather he hesitated and then failed to execute the block correctly. If he had done it the proper way, it would have been a good play.

Yep, he wiffed on the initial block and then got up and tried again as the play was continuing away. Typical misuse by a poor player who failed to execute his assignment the first time. Have fun in DET George :welcome:

elsid13
08-18-2007, 08:53 AM
Yep, he wiffed on the initial block and then got up and tried again as the play was continuing away. Typical misuse by a poor player who failed to execute his assignment the first time. Have fun in DET George :welcome:

Hey Med

I had a pretty good time in Indy thanks for the information. You should of warmed me about the GEN-CON thing going on, never seen so many "Bobos"
in my life.

BTW the Weber Grill is pretty good and if you haven't tried it, it worth the time, and price

ikiru
08-18-2007, 08:53 AM
Originally Posted by dragondawg View Post
Pears’s most recent bench press registered at 225 lbs,

Why would anyone read this drivel past this point? What a load of horse****. ROFL!

I was thinking the same thing. If this guy can only bench 225, he has no business being in professional football (much less being a lineman). Heck, Jay Cutler benched 225lbs 27 times!

-ikiru

*enjoy the sauce*

elsid13
08-18-2007, 08:58 AM
I was thinking the same thing. If this guy can only bench 225, he has no business being in professional football (much less being a lineman). Heck, Jay Cutler benched 225lbs 27 times!

-ikiru

*enjoy the sauce*

225 is what they set the weight at the combine. It doesn't mean that all he can bench. It means the "reporter" was lazy and doesn't have any sources within Denver weight room to tell him what Pears actually lifts.

Mediator12
08-18-2007, 09:22 AM
He also missed that seven teams are using the Zone almost full time this year. OAK, TEN, CAR, HOU, GB, NE, and DEN employ this as their base running scheme.

As for the rest of the article, its pure crap. He does not describe the techniques properly, he does not design the philosophy at all, and he fails to mention that it is successful because it exploits the major weakness of DL poor technique and adjustment.

It takes a lot of effort to play against the zone blocking technique and it forces the DL to be reactive instead of aggressive. If they are aggressive they can easily get blocked out of the play or make a big play. The DL coaches like consistancy though and do not want to be hit and miss at the POA. Some outstanding DL have success against the zone because they are good enough to play through it. However, the average players struggle mightily and there are plenty more average DL than good in the NFL. That is what Shanahan has based this around.

Mediator12
08-18-2007, 09:24 AM
Hey Med

I had a pretty good time in Indy thanks for the information. You should of warmed me about the GEN-CON thing going on, never seen so many "Bobos"
in my life.

BTW the Weber Grill is pretty good and if you haven't tried it, it worth the time, and price

Gen-con? What do you think I pay attention? I leave that to the Bob's of the world ;D

elsid13
08-18-2007, 09:32 AM
Gen-con? What do you think I pay attention? I leave that to the Bob's of the world ;D

I figured you dressed up a IUPUI jaguar and hit the convention center. ;D

Xenos
08-18-2007, 01:31 PM
Maybe that prick will think twice before he decides to use someones kidney as a punching bag.

Like I said, there was a ton of crap on both sides. Both the Chargers and Broncos kept recorded incidents that happened during that game that doesn't make the spotlights. It's the reason why they both got fined.

BigPlayShay
08-18-2007, 01:39 PM
These type of articles are like clockwork. I love that they attack the broncos RUN blocking schemes and then list injuries where some of them occurred on PASS plays.

footstepsfrom#27
08-18-2007, 01:40 PM
I was thinking the same thing. If this guy can only bench 225, he has no business being in professional football (much less being a lineman). Heck, Jay Cutler benched 225lbs 27 times!

-ikiru

*enjoy the sauce*
Anyone dumb enough to believe that an NFL offensive tackle can only bench press 225 doesn't need to be posting on an internet fan board. That's just pure laziness. It took me 60 seconds to find out that Pears opted out of the bench at the combine due to an injury. The writer obviously knows absolutely nothing about the league...suggesting that Denver has the NFL's only O-line where all 5 starters BP over 300? What nonsense...most high school lines can claim that. It's just throwing crap against the wall and hoping it will stick.

footstepsfrom#27
08-18-2007, 01:50 PM
He also missed that seven teams are using the Zone almost full time this year. OAK, TEN, CAR, HOU, GB, NE, and DEN employ this as their base running scheme.

As for the rest of the article, its pure crap. He does not describe the techniques properly, he does not design the philosophy at all, and he fails to mention that it is successful because it exploits the major weakness of DL poor technique and adjustment.

It takes a lot of effort to play against the zone blocking technique and it forces the DL to be reactive instead of aggressive. If they are aggressive they can easily get blocked out of the play or make a big play. The DL coaches like consistancy though and do not want to be hit and miss at the POA. Some outstanding DL have success against the zone because they are good enough to play through it. However, the average players struggle mightily and there are plenty more average DL than good in the NFL. That is what Shanahan has based this around.
Good points. Also...when you have an entirely different set of criteria you're looking for in an offensive linemen, it means you're searching in a different talent pool than most of the rest of the league. Denver finds talent at the bottom of the draft because those players don't fit the rest of the leagues measurables. That doesn't mean they're not talented or can't play. It just means they're suited for a different system. When most other teams are ignoring those players it leaves them sitting there for us deep in the draft. The same holds true for the running back position. Fans of other teams think we can plug any runner into this system and succeed, which is completely untrue. We're looking for a different kind of runner, one where patience, vision, balance, and the ability to adjust to a one cut and go style overide the instinct to make "moves" in the hole like Tatum Bell did. It isn't raw speed or runners instincts that suceed here. Not every talented runner who might succeed in other team's systems can succeed in this one. It's a two way street...just as there are runners that come out of our system who won't be successful on some other teams, there are also lots of runners on other teams who couldn't make it in Denver.

baja
08-18-2007, 03:18 PM
I remember the Foster play on Williams. That was one of the dirtiest plays I have seen. I'm really glad Foster isn't in the Orange and Blue anymore.

I don't think Foster was intentionally dirty more of a case of not having good football awareness. He always seemed lost out there.