Vick Negotiating Plea Bargain

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Looks like he might take a deal offered by the prosecution.

A source close to the investigation told Naqi that Vick has until Friday to make up his mind whether to accept a plea agreement. Otherwise a superseding indictment will be filed and Vick will face at least two more federal dogfighting charges.

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Vick must decide whether to accept plea agreement (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2972161)
ESPN.com news services

Facing increasing pressure to strike a deal with prosecutors, Atlanta Falcons star Michael Vick conferred with his attorneys for hours Wednesday.

"The defense and Michael are meeting," Collins R. Spencer III, a spokesman for Vick's five lawyers, said Wednesday afternoon.

At least some of the parties were participating by telephone in a meeting that began in late morning and continued well into the afternoon, he said.

"It seems they're going to be talking a while," Spencer said.

Prosecutors were not involved in the meeting, he said.

The conference call came two days after Vick's two remaining co-defendants scheduled plea hearings, presumably agreeing to testify against Vick if his federal dogfighting conspiracy case goes to trial as scheduled Nov. 26.

On Tuesday ESPN learned that lawyers representing Vick were trying to negotiate a plea agreement that would include less than the year of prison time that prosecutors had offered.

A source also said that Vick's attorneys had recommended that the embattled quarterback accept a deal if it includes less than a year of jail time, but he had not decided whether to fight the charges.

ESPN's Chris Mortensen learned on Wednesday that commissioner Roger Goodell refuses to negotiate with Vick representatives regarding a suspension from the league. He is waiting for Vick to appear in court and for the league's investigation to be completed.

Vick may want to know what the league will do if he accepts certain plea agreements; however, the commissioner refuses to tip his hand. The league dismissed an earlier report that the commissioner was planning to suspend Vick for the season this week or next.

Vick's situation became more tenous when two other co-defendants decided to cooperate with the government. Purnell Peace and Quanis Phillips are scheduled to appear in federal court in Richmond on Friday to accept plea agreements.

The hearing for Peace, 35, of Virginia Beach, Va., had originally been set for 9 a.m. Thursday before U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson. The case has been rescheduled for 9:15 a.m. Friday, 15 minutes after the hearing for Quanis Phillips, 28, of Atlanta.

Spencer said they were surprised by the plea deals.

"They didn't see it coming," Spencer said.

Sources told ESPN's Kelly Naqi that Vick attorneys Larry Woodward and Billy Martin met with federal prosecutor Michael Gill and the investigators on Monday afternoon.
CONT.

[Odysseus]

I wonder how big this thing really is.

[Mediator12]

He lied to Goodell about his involvement and still wants to negotiate a suspension ;D I bet his lawyers spin the HELL out of that when it comes time for his actual punishment. And, I hope Goodell throws the book at him if he Pleas out. A plea agreement admits guilt, and he told the commisioner he was Innocent. Poor sucker LOL

[WoodMan]

It is my impression that the additional charges that will be filed should Vick not accept this plea have to do with interstate gambling. The league(NFL) has a lifetime ban if gambling is involved. I'm really not sure of all the details about it, but Vick does not want to face a gambling conviction. He may be done in the NFL anyway because of public opinion, but a lifetime ban would insure that.
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. IMO

[Mediator12]

Yeah Woodman, the Government has Vick by the shorthairs if they throw out an interstate gambling Indictment on Vick. Goodell is already pissed because Vick lied to him face to face in light of his harsher Personal Conduct Policy. Add Gambling to the mix, and he could very well get the lifetime ban very quickly.

[Beantown Bronco]

I'll be EXTREMELY ticked off if the prosecution caves and agrees to less than a year of jail time.....no case is ever a slam dunk, but this seems about as close as you can get, considering the quick about-face Vick did once he heard the other two caved. I'm sure Vick was counting on one of them to accept all the blame and say that Vick was innocent to keep Vick's money coming in when they managed to get out of jail. If they sell him out now, they'll have nothing waiting for them when they get out.

[NaptownChief]

I feel so sorry for poor little Ron Mexico....


I too would be pretty disappointed if he serves less than a year in the slam.


And in light of the recent NBA mess I would be very disappointed if Goodell doesn't throw the book at him for running a gambling ring and being involved with that type of crowd...That alone should give him a near lifetime ban even before you throw the other felony charges on top of it.

[Atwater His Ass]

Where are the Vick supporters now? It used to be he was innocent and the investigation was being botched. Then it was he may end up being suspended for part of the season. Then it was possible suspension for the entire season. Now it is in question wether the pos will ever play in the NFL again and may end up doing jail time.

Even if he "only" gets a season ban and doesn't do any time so is avaiable for next season, who in their right mind would even sign this guy, assuming Atlanta cuts ties with him? I can't see any team in the NFL taking a chance on this guy due the fact that any small violation would probably get him suspended yet again for a significant amount of time and due to all the negative (rightly so) media coverage that would go along with any team stupid enough to pick him up.

I personally believe that Vick's playing days are over (at least in the NFL), regardless of anything else that happens from this point on and I couldn't be happier about it.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

ESPN reporting one of Vick's attorneys is advising him to take this plea now and another attorney is telling him to go to trial.

The judge apparently is known for harsh sentences and isn't bound to accept any deal reached prior to the trial.

[Atwater His Ass]

I really can't imagine with the others taking deals that Vick doesn't as well. I imagine their testimony would be too damaging. But hell, OJ got off, so I guess anything is possible.

[Florida_Bronco]

http://www.grudge-match.com/Images/justice.gif

"Boil his ass in molasses!"

[footstepsfrom#27]

Where are the Vick supporters now? It used to be he was innocent and the investigation was being botched.
I don't remember anyone on this board stating he was innocent. Garcia and I both said we should wait and see what the legal process brought. I also don't recall anyone saying the investigation was being botched. In fact the only comments regarding that came from your side, from people who tried to extrapolate from a reluctance to use a warrant he felt might not hold up in court due to constitutional issues that the Surrey County DA was somehow either on the take or a racist who was trying to help Vick.

Frankly...I'm sick of hearing about Michael Vick. Call me when it's over and we have the results.

[TDmvp]

Sucks to be him ... i really feel for him .....
not .................

[Atwater His Ass]

Frankly...I'm sick of hearing about Michael Vick. Call me when it's over and we have the results.

At least we can agree on this.

[smalltowngrll]

who in their right mind would even sign this guy,

Raiders! (ok, bad joke...but I couldn't resist)

Honestly, I hope he gets a lifetime suspension. And good for Goodall for not 'tipping his hat' and letting out any inclination of what he may do. I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing goes pretty deep and there aren't many involved in the betting aspect.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

The feds are going to go RICO on his azz if he doesn't plea guilty. Now you're talking about 25 years of PMITA prison.

[Sodak]

Michael Vick is a POS, and so is his brother.

You can take the kid out of the hood...

[Sodak]

But you can't take the hood out of the kid.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

The feds are going to go RICO on his azz if he doesn't plea guilty. Now you're talking about 25 years of PMITA prison.I don't know about 25 years, has he ever been convicted of a felony before? I think most people are speculating a year or little less with a plea and around 5 years if he goes to trial and losses.

[Crushaholic]

The feds are going to go RICO on his azz if he doesn't plea guilty. Now you're talking about 25 years of PMITA prison.

25 years would be a tad bit harsh.

[Odysseus]

I'm really glad I don't have a t.v. right now.

[Beantown Bronco]

I don't know about 25 years, has he ever been convicted of a felony before? I think most people are speculating a year or little less with a plea and around 5 years if he goes to trial and losses.

That five years only applies to the current charges. If he doesn't take the plea agreement, they have confirmed that they will add further federal racketeering charges which could amount to many more years.

[dbfan21]

Vick knew what he was involved with was illegal...he knew it would wreck his career if caught. He rolled the dice and lost. I heard about the reports of what he had done to his dogs that lost their fights. He's going to get his just desserts. What comes around, goes around. I'll be happy when this goes away.

[Old Dude]

HBO's "Real Sports" had a big segment about dog-fighting the other night - - not about Vick in particular, but about the "industry" in general.

States vary quite a bit in terms of their laws on the matter, and on the penalties provided (and those actually imposed) but most "hard core" dogfight people usually wind up getting "a few" years in the joint. My impression was around 3-5.

There was one guy who pulled a 30-year term, but that was more due to the fact that he set up a spring gun (a booby trap) on his property and it went off and seriously injured a human victim.

So if Vick does wind up cutting a deal in this case, and if he goes the same route as most other people, he will probably get some time, but not as much as what many people expect or think that he deserves.

I'd look for a huge fine, and a 3-5 year term in a minimum security unit that would be cut in half for good behavior. Real time served: 18 to 30 months max. Look for him to miss a couple years in the NFL, and then attempt a return with diminished talent as a rest-of-his-career backup.

That's what my crystal ball says, anyway.

Meanwhile, we can expect to see increased penalties for dog-fighting in the future, since this has, if nothing else, sensitized the country to it.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

HBO's "Real Sports" had a big segment about dog-fighting the other night - - not about Vick in particular, but about the "industry" in general.

States vary quite a bit in terms of their laws on the matter, and on the penalties provided (and those actually imposed) but most "hard core" dogfight people usually wind up getting "a few" years in the joint. My impression was around 3-5.

There was one guy who pulled a 30-year term, but that was more due to the fact that he set up a spring gun (a booby trap) on his property and it went off and seriously injured a human victim.

So if Vick does wind up cutting a deal in this case, and if he goes the same route as most other people, he will probably get some time, but not as much as what many people expect or think that he deserves.

I'd look for a huge fine, and a 3-5 year term in a minimum security unit that would be cut in half for good behavior. Real time served: 18 to 30 months max. Look for him to miss a couple years in the NFL, and then attempt a return with diminished talent as a rest-of-his-career backup.

That's what my crystal ball says, anyway.

Meanwhile, we can expect to see increased penalties for dog-fighting in the future, since this has, if nothing else, sensitized the country to it.These are federal charges aren't they? I bet he (his lawyers) won't accept any deal with more than a year.

[NaptownChief]

Look for him to miss a couple years in the NFL, and then attempt a return with diminished talent as a rest-of-his-career backup.





His talents lent to a career backup from the begining....unfortunately for the Falcons they spent a ton of money before they figured that out.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

25 years would be a tad bit harsh.

The supposed threat is a superceeding indictment of racketeering / interstate gambling. Look at the mandatory sentences for RICO violations. Its pretty harsh, but the laws were written to take out organized crime.

Personally, if he had any part in that heinous **** I hope he dies screaming.

[WoodMan]

I'd look for a huge fine, and a 3-5 year term in a minimum security unit that would be cut in half for good behavior. Real time served: 18 to 30 months max. Look for him to miss a couple years in the NFL, and then attempt a return with diminished talent as a rest-of-his-career backup.

No such thing as time off for good behavior in a Federal sentence. You do the time you are given period. The sentenced is also up to the judges discretion no matter what the plea, so the Federal prosecutors can't really promise anything concrete. Word is that the judge hearing the case is tough, so Vick will be "rolling the dice" when it comes to what the judge gives him if he does cop a plea. If the judge gives him 5 years though, he will do the 5 years.

[listopencil]

I'd look for a huge fine, and a 3-5 year term in a minimum security unit that would be cut in half for good behavior. Real time served: 18 to 30 months max. Look for him to miss a couple years in the NFL, and then attempt a return with diminished talent as a rest-of-his-career backup.

What's funny is I don't think Vick could beat out that many people at the QB position in a Training Camp with a level playing field. Maybe a long time away from the game will give him some maturity, maybe his physical skills being diminished will force him to think for once....maybe he tries to come back as a WR? Who knows?

[sixtimeseight]

25 years would be a tad bit harsh.

Not really. I wouldn't mind if he got the death penalty.

[footstepsfrom#27]

But you can't take the hood out of the kid.
What a stupid comment.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Not really. I wouldn't mind if he got the death penalty.
What else do you support the death penalty for. Just curious...

[smalltowngrll]

I would support putting him through the same vile behaviour he subjected those dogs to.

I'm sure some might consider that too harsh. But, hey, we all make choices. Have to live with the consequences of our choices.

[footstepsfrom#27]

I would support putting him through the same vile behaviour he subjected those dogs to.

I'm sure some might consider that too harsh. But, hey, we all make choices. Have to live with the consequences of our choices.
So you believe we should add dog fighting to 1st degree premeditated murder on our list of death penalty crimes?

[sixtimeseight]

What else do you support the death penalty for. Just curious...

I don't support the death penalty for anything. It was hyperbole to make a point.

[Cito Pelon]

No such thing as time off for good behavior in a Federal sentence. You do the time you are given period. The sentenced is also up to the judges discretion no matter what the plea, so the Federal prosecutors can't really promise anything concrete. Word is that the judge hearing the case is tough, so Vick will be "rolling the dice" when it comes to what the judge gives him if he does cop a plea. If the judge gives him 5 years though, he will do the 5 years.

I didn't know that. Tough decision for Vick. I guess if Vick and his lawyers are even considering a plea deal, they know he's guilty of at least some of the charges. It's just a matter of how much they think they can work the system.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

So you believe we should add dog fighting to 1st degree premeditated murder on our list of death penalty crimes?

Wetting a dog down and electrocuting it to death because it didn't pass the "roll test" is about as evil as it gets. Death penalty is too light of a sentence IMO.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

I didn't know that. Tough decision for Vick. I guess if Vick and his lawyers are even considering a plea deal, they know he's guilty of at least some of the charges. It's just a matter of how much they think they can work the system.

Mike has a team trying to minimize the legal vs professional hit that is coming his way. He will have to spend time in jail. He will be suspended from the NFL. Its a matter of trying to save some sort of career after he gets out of prison. Hopefully if he pleads guilty, Goodell will ban him.

[Garcia Bronco]

I don't remember anyone on this board stating he was innocent. Garcia and I both said we should wait and see what the legal process brought. I also don't recall anyone saying the investigation was being botched. In fact the only comments regarding that came from your side, from people who tried to extrapolate from a reluctance to use a warrant he felt might not hold up in court due to constitutional issues that the Surrey County DA was somehow either on the take or a racist who was trying to help Vick.

Frankly...I'm sick of hearing about Michael Vick. Call me when it's over and we have the results.

Yep

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Wetting a dog down and electrocuting it to death because it didn't pass the "roll test" is about as evil as it gets. Death penalty is too light of a sentence IMO.Have to agree with you there. The death penalty is really something civilized society shouldn't use as punishment anyway when you can cage someone for the rest of their life.

[Sodak]

What a stupid comment.

Thanks for the affirmation. :) It seems to be a familial trait.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Here's a question to consider, I guess, when did all these "alleged crimes" take place? Were they all in the last couple years or back when Vick was in college and coming out to the pros? Not that past crimes would excuse him, I'm just wondering what a jury might think about that.

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Vick, prosecutors negotiating deal (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070816/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_michael_vick_5;_ylt=AjDFDRcU8y3z7FZplGBG_3EE1v AI)
By LARRY O'DELL, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 42 minutes ago

RICHMOND, Va. - Michael Vick and his attorneys were still negotiating with federal prosecutors Thursday, hoping to strike a deal on a plea agreement, according to a lawyer familiar with the case.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070815/capt.7f568cfd393c4d50b858fd54cb755b9e.vick_footbal l_ny163.jpg?x=196&y=345&sig=_wGoMcJxw3nd85Yr1kD2LQ--
Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick arrives at the 4th District Federal Courthouse in Richmond, Va., in this July 26, 2007 file photo. (AP Photo/ Dean Hoffmeyer)

The lawyer spoke on condition of anonymity to The Associated Press because of the ongoing discussions.

The Atlanta Falcons star quarterback pleaded not guilty to dogfighting conspiracy charges last month. But since then, one of his co-defendants has changed his plea to guilty and agreed to testify against Vick, and two others are scheduled to do likewise Friday.

Prosecutors, meantime, have said they will seek a superseding indictment this month. Legal experts say the growing parade of prosecution witnesses and the prospect of additional charges increases the pressure on Vick to negotiate a deal.

Collins R. Spencer III, spokesman for Vick's five-member defense team, declined to comment. Vick is scheduled to go to trial Nov. 26.

It's highly unlikely prosecutors would offer Vick a specific reduced sentence in exchange for a guilty plea, according to Steven Benjamin, a prominent Richmond defense attorney. He said federal rules permit such agreements, subject to the judge's approval, but they simply are not used in the Richmond federal court.

"If we were to see that in this case, it would be extraordinary," he said.

Instead, prosecutors sometimes offer concessions that would result in a lower range under federal sentencing guidelines, Benjamin said. For example, prosecutors could pledge not to take the position that Vick was a leader of the dogfighting ring.

"If the judge accepted that finding, it would have the effect of reducing his sentencing guideline range," Benjamin said.

A number of other factors are considered in determining that range, including the defendant's sincerity in accepting responsibility and the extent of his cooperation with the government in ongoing investigations, Benjamin said.

Rough calculations based on what is known in Vick's case indicate that a guideline range of eight to 12 months "would not be unrealistic," said Benjamin's law partner, Betty Layne Desportes. The charges — conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and conspiring to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture — carry a maximum prison term of five years and a $250,000 fine.

Tony Taylor of Hampton pleaded guilty to those charges last month and will be sentenced Dec. 14. Co-defendants Purnell Peace, 35, of Virginia Beach, and Quanis Phillips, 28, of Atlanta, will enter plea agreements Friday morning.

According to the statement signed by Taylor as part of his plea agreement, Vick financed virtually all of the "Bad Newz Kennels" dogfighting enterprise on Vick's property in Surry County, Va.

Taylor's statement and the July 17 indictment also linked Vick to betting on the dogfights, which could result in a lifetime ban from the NFL under the league's policy against gambling. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has barred Vick from the Falcons' training camp but has withheld further action until the league completes its own investigation.

The case began with the April search of the Surry County property. Investigators found dozens of pit bulls, some of them injured, as well as equipment commonly used in dogfighting.

The indictment said dogs that lost fights or fared poorly in test fights were sometimes executed by hanging, electrocution or other means. The details have fueled public protests against Vick and have cost him some of his lucrative endorsement deals.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Here's a question to consider, I guess, when did all these "alleged crimes" take place? Were they all in the last couple years or back when Vick was in college and coming out to the pros? Not that past crimes would excuse him, I'm just wondering what a jury might think about that.


Here's the entire indictment.... with dates a gory details.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0717072vick1.html

[loborugger]

Here's the entire indictment.... with dates a gory details.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0717072vick1.html


Michael Vick, aka Ookie... :D

What a clown.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Here's the entire indictment.... with dates a gory details.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0717072vick1.html

Well, that puts that question to rest as the indictment says Vick killed some of his dogs in 2007.

[Liebs]

placing him in a ring with 3-5 angry pittbulls that he trained and abused would make me feel better

[footstepsfrom#27]

Thanks for the affirmation. :) It seems to be a familial trait.
What seems to be a familal trait?

[Malcontent]

If this loser ever plays again in the NFL..I will quit watching and take up woodworking.

[footstepsfrom#27]

If this loser ever plays again in the NFL..I will quit watching and take up woodworking.
Really?

http://www2.raisport.rai.it/news/sport/nfl/200002/01/389739d3060a6/RayLewis1.jpg

[Malcontent]

Really?

http://www2.raisport.rai.it/news/sport/nfl/200002/01/389739d3060a6/RayLewis1.jpg

OK got me..but I'll be really pissed!

[Sodak]

What seems to be a familal trait?



Michael Vick and his stupid brother making incredibly stupid, career threatening/ending decisions.

Who the **** would want to fight dogs if you have a high profile, multi-million dollar per year income from the NFL and endorsements? That's some backwoods, dumbass hillbilly **** right there. Maybe he's too dumb to understand what he has, and how his moronic decisions can affect his life.

It really annoys me to see someone piss away a good thing. I just doesn't make any sense.

[Dr.5280]

It really annoys me to see someone piss away a good thing. I just doesn't make any sense.

Vick has proven himself to be less than "someone." His character flaws followed him to the new world.

[Watchthemiddle]

We all know he is going to serve some time.

The question is not if..its WHEN he ever plays again in the NFL. We all know there is ONE team, one OWNER, one Coach that would take him in a year to be their QB.

Raiders!!! Who will play first in the NFL...Jamarcus or Vick????

[Los Broncos]

I expect Goodell to come down hard

[-Slap-]

I thought it would be fun to link the thread when it looked like Vick might slither away without being indicted for anything. Especially amusing is the smarmy gloating from footstepsfromTatum and the way DCCardsFan and Tredici hand him his pompous ass throughout the thread.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1585801&postcount=46

Unfortunately one of the merge happy mods turned the thread into a giant sprawling mess, but there's a lot of humor here.

[ol number 7]

Michael Vick, aka Ookie... :D

What a clown.

Ron Mexico with the chics
Michael Vick at work
Ookie at the dog fights
DOC 168356 (Dept. of Corrections ) next

Still wearing orange!!! Can he wear his Air Vicks in the joint ??? :afro:

[Bronco_Beerslug]

"Did you conspire with these folks to sponsor a dogfighting venture?" U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson asked Peace.

He replied, "Yes, sir."

While Peace was freed, Phillips violated the terms of his release by failing a drug test and was taken into custody of U.S. marshals.


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2 Vick co-defendants enter guilty pleas (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070817/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_vick_co_defendants_12;_ylt=AkPId.t0T9ZMVmRndfE sUBME1vAI)
RICHMOND, Va. - Two of Michael Vick's alleged cohorts in a dogfighting enterprise entered guilty pleas Friday, leaving the Atlanta Falcons quarterback on his own to cut a deal or face trial on federal charges.

With his NFL career in jeopardy and a superseding indictment adding more charges in the works, Vick and his lawyers have been talking with federal prosecutors about a possible plea agreement.

But there was no indication Friday at U.S. District Court that Vick would enter a plea before the new charges are filed, perhaps as early as next week.

Sentencing for the two was scheduled for Nov. 30. Vick has been barred from training camp by the NFL and is scheduled to stand trial Nov. 26.

Purnell Peace, 35, of Virginia Beach and Quanis Phillips, 28, of Atlanta entered plea agreements and joined another defendant who previously changed his plea to guilty and agreed to cooperate in the government's case against Vick.

Peace and Phillips were charged with conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and conspiring to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture. Tony Taylor of Hampton pleaded guilty last month and will be sentenced Dec. 14.

The offenses are punishable by up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine, although federal sentencing guidelines likely would call for less.

CONT.

[NaptownChief]

I thought it would be fun to link the thread when it looked like Vick might slither away without being indicted for anything. Especially amusing is the smarmy gloating from footstepsfromTatum and the way DCCardsFan and Tredici hand him his pompous ass throughout the thread.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1585801&postcount=46

Unfortunately one of the merge happy mods turned the thread into a giant sprawling mess, but there's a lot of humor here.



That is good stuff...Thanks for bringing it back out. No wonder somebody was tired of hearing about Vick...Probably real tired of being wrong I suppose. Well kinda....I mean he is never wrong if you ask him but to the rest of us it sure looks like he got it handed to him.

[PLOWHORSE]

Anyone notice the RICO act is short for Ron MexICO? Hmm interesting coincidence.

[Beantown Bronco]

Odd that there's been no real update today, other than the confirmation that the other two defendants did in fact plead out. Supposedly 9:00AM was Vick's deadline to either plead out with them or have the plea window shut and face more charges.....yet nothing has come out about that side of things yet. Looks like we may have to wait until next week.

[KipCorrington25]

I'm sure they are doing some 11th hour negotiations with the feds as we speak which means Vick will plea but all the i's have yet to be dotted.

[Beantown Bronco]

I'm sure they are doing some 11th hour negotiations with the feds as we speak which means Vick will plea but all the i's have yet to be dotted.

Either way, it'll be a next week thing....it's impossible to get a judge to do anything after 2:00 in the afternoon....not to mention on a Friday in August.

[TailgateNut]

Either way, it'll be a next week thing....it's impossible to get a judge to do anything after 2:00 in the afternoon....not to mention on a Friday in August.

you forgot, in Norfolk. I bet it's 97 with 97% humidity and calm winds.
The only good place to be on a friday afternoon in Va. in August is in a bar with AC and Ice cold beer and a tray of oysters on the half shell.;)

or boating on the Chesapeake!

[baja]

So you believe we should add dog fighting to 1st degree premeditated murder on our list of death penalty crimes?

Not to hijack the thread but it would be easier for me to kill a bad person than a good dog.

[baja]

Mike has a team trying to minimize the legal vs professional hit that is coming his way. He will have to spend time in jail. He will be suspended from the NFL. Its a matter of trying to save some sort of career after he gets out of prison. Hopefully if he pleads guilty, Goodell will ban him.

I propose that we line up Vick against 11 guys named Slap in an all out blitz with the 2004 Houston Texans protecting him in a "Ground Hog Day" football game

[baja]

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2 Vick co-defendants enter guilty pleas (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070817/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_vick_co_defendants_12;_ylt=AkPId.t0T9ZMVmRndfE sUBME1vAI)
RICHMOND, Va. - Two of Michael Vick's alleged cohorts in a dogfighting enterprise entered guilty pleas Friday, leaving the Atlanta Falcons quarterback on his own to cut a deal or face trial on federal charges.

With his NFL career in jeopardy and a superseding indictment adding more charges in the works, Vick and his lawyers have been talking with federal prosecutors about a possible plea agreement.

But there was no indication Friday at U.S. District Court that Vick would enter a plea before the new charges are filed, perhaps as early as next week.

Sentencing for the two was scheduled for Nov. 30. Vick has been barred from training camp by the NFL and is scheduled to stand trial Nov. 26.

Purnell Peace, 35, of Virginia Beach and Quanis Phillips, 28, of Atlanta entered plea agreements and joined another defendant who previously changed his plea to guilty and agreed to cooperate in the government's case against Vick.

Peace and Phillips were charged with conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and conspiring to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture. Tony Taylor of Hampton pleaded guilty last month and will be sentenced Dec. 14.

The offenses are punishable by up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine, although federal sentencing guidelines likely would call for less.

CONT.

These ass clowns are rolling over like 2nd graders something a good dog would never do not even when threatened by death.

[Garcia Bronco]

you forgot, in Norfolk. I bet it's 97 with 97% humidity and calm winds.
The only good place to be on a friday afternoon in Va. in August is in a bar with AC and Ice cold beer and a tray of oysters on the half shell.;)

or boating on the Chesapeake!

I agree 1000%

[peacepipe]

Ron Mexico with the chics
Michael Vick at work
Ookie at the dog fights
DOC 168356 (Dept. of Corrections ) next

Still wearing orange!!! Can he wear his Air Vicks in the joint ??? :afro:
He better hope he can,or he'll be playing bubbas' center when bubba wants to play QB.

[lazarus4444]

The Raiders should trade the rights to jamarcus russell for michael vick....Would be a great deal for the Falcons and on par for the raiders, lol....

[Bronco_Beerslug]

ESPN reporting (from today's testimony) that Vick told his bros to hang some dogs and when a few of them didn't die from the hanging Vick himself joined in and drowned those dogs.

Vick is done forever as a NFL player.

[baja]

ESPN reporting (from today's testimony) that Vick told his bros to hang some dogs and when a few of them didn't die from the hanging Vick himself joined in and drowned those dogs.

Vick is done forever as a NFL player.

Maybe he can get sentenced to the same joint as Caurth and they can be "The Longest yard" duo with a ruthless warden.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Maybe he can get sentenced to the same joint as Caurth and they can be "The Longest yard" duo with a ruthless warden.Falcons owner Blank said on ESPN that Vick is taking the plea deal sometime tonight. I thought Vick might have been doing this sh*t sometime in his past but a lot of this crap happened this year. The guy actually hanged and drowned these dogs just this year. Fricking sickening!

[baja]

I hope he gets the O J Simpson treatment in public for evermore.