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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-14-2007, 10:59 PM
On Friday, the Dow clawed its way back from a 200 point deficit to a mere 31 point loss after the Federal Reserve injected $38 billion into the banking system. The Fed had already pumped $24 billion into the system a day earlier after the Dow plummeted 387 points. That brings the Fed’s total commitment to a whopping $62 billion.

By some estimates, $326.3 billion has now been added to the G-7 Nations’ intra-banking system to prevent a breakdown. That amount will steadily rise in the weeks ahead as the situation continues to deteriorate. Some readers may remember that on Tuesday, August 7, the Fed announced that it was NOT planning to bail out the market.

My, how quickly things change.

So far, the economic pundits and CEOs have applauded the Fed’s intervention as a “constructive” way of staving off an impending credit crisis.

Are these the same “experts” who always sing the praises of unregulated “free markets” while condemning any government intervention?

Yes.

The investment banks and fund mangers love “free markets” when it means eliminating the rules that prevent them from gaming the system. But they don’t like it so much when their shabby Ponzi-rackets start to unravel. Then they’re the first in line to beg for a bailout.

That’s what’s happening right now. The Fed is keeping the stock market afloat by increasing liquidity at the banks. If it wasn’t for Bernanke’s billions of dollars of low interest credit---the banking system and stock market would collapse in a heap. The Fed’s “not-so-invisible hand” is the only thing holding the whole dilapidated system in place.

Is that the way it’s supposed to work in a free market system---with the Fed acting as the nation’s Economic Central Planner intervening whenever it suits the interests of its wealthiest constituents?

Sounds more like a Financial Politburo, doesn’t it?

In truth, the “free market” means nothing to the men who run the system. It’s just a public relations scam designed to dupe investors into plunking their money into a system that’s rigged for the carnivores at the top of the economic food-chain.

Does anyone really believe that the market-commissars would allow the system to operate according to the arbitrary swings in investor confidence and random speculation?

This is THEIR SYSTEM and they run it THEIR WAY. The only time that changes is when their twisted schemes go haywire and they need a handout from the taxpayer. In the present case, they are asking Big Brother Bernanke to bail them out on trillions of dollars of non-performing subprime garbage-loans which masquerade as securities in the secondary market. The Fed has already indicated that it will do whatever it can to help.

But what good will it do?

The banks are currently holding (roughly) $300 billion in collateralized debt obligations (CDOs) and another $225 billion in collateralized loan obligations (CLOs) More than one-half trillion dollars in debt which is essentially “illiquid” and has no clear market value. It could be worthless for all we know.

That hasn’t stopped the Fed riding to the rescue, buying up many of these toxic CDOs and increasing banking reserves so the great fractional banking con-game can continue unabated. This is what one astute observer called “alchemy finance”.

Central banks around the world have opened up the liquidity spigots to avoid a global credit meltdown. But their efforts are bound to fail. The banks are sitting on huge losses from assets that they can’t move through the pipeline and which have gobbled up their reserves. Bloomberg News summed it up like this: “The $2 trillion market for mortgages not backed by government-sponsored agencies is at a standstill”.

The same is true of the corporate bond market. As the Wall Street Journal reported last week:

“The investment grade corporate bond market HAS GROUND TO A HALT, making it difficult for companies to access capital and hard for investors to find a place to put their money to work. ….The problems in the primary market could, if they persist, throw a wrench in the workings of corporate America, making it tougher for companies to finance, among other things, investments, buyouts and equity buybacks….For July, corporate bond issuance was down 77% from June.” (“Corporate Bond Market has come to a Standstill”, Wall Street Journal)

The mighty wheels of commerce have rusted in place. Nothing is moving. Trillions of dollars poisonous CDOs need to unwind, but the banks cannot put them up for bid for fear that they’ll only get pennies on the dollar. It’s like watching a slow-motion train-wreck. The Fed’s cheap credit won’t help either. At best, it’ll just buy a little time before the true value of these bonds is established and trillions of dollars in market capitalization vanish into cyber-space. Banks, equities, hedge funds, insurance companies and pension funds are all in line to suffer major losses.

Last week BNP Paribas suspended three funds because they couldn’t get bids on the CDOs they own. When securities have no fixed market-value; who is going to buy them?

No one. Besides being complex and opaque, real estate CDOs have become the global pariah---“leper equities” that no one will touch. That’s why no transactions are taking place and the system is freezing up. If Paribas shuttered its doors; there must be many other funds close behind.

The Federal Reserve started this mess by lowering interest rates to 1% and flushing trillions of dollars into the economy. That cheap money created equity-bubbles in housing, credit, stocks and bonds which are now beginning to unwind. Expanding the money-supply might be a good short-term fix, but it’s dangerous, too. It just adds hyper-inflation to the long-list of existing problems.

The volatility in the stock market has diverted attention from the problems facing the banking system. The banks have been originating loans and bundling them off to Wall Street to avoid the normal reserve requirements. Now they’ve been “caught short” and don’t have adequate funding to cover their bets. If the Fed doesn’t help out, we’ll see at least one or two major bank closures.

This is a story that won’t appear in the media. Bank-runs are the beginning of the end---financial Armageddon.

The problems facing the stock market are serious but not catastrophic. If the stock market corrects more than 10 or 15%, the massive overleveraged $1.7 trillion hedge fund industry will crash-and-burn. This may explain why the market has behaved so erratically lately. There’ve several late-day rallies with no good news to support the soaring equities prices. Is the market being micro-managed behind the scenes to keep it above a certain level?

Many people think so. A number of articles have been written recently about the activities of the Plunge Protection Team; the secretive group (comprised of the SEC, US Treasury, Federal Reserve, and Investment Banks) which allegedly buys futures to forestall violent sell-offs in the market. The Fed’s desperate infusions of credit into the banking system will only reinforce growing suspicions of market manipulation.

DERIVATIVES DOWNDRAFT

Banks routinely hedge against adverse moves in the market by purchasing various types of insurance in the form of derivatives contracts. Derivatives trading has skyrocketed in the last few years and the “British Bankers Association estimated last fall that by the end of 2006, the market for all credit derivatives was $20 trillion and expected to be $33 trillion by the end of 2008.”These relatively new instruments are about to be put to the test by worsening market conditions. “Hedge funds may account for as much as 30% of such credit protection” but that is little solace for the banks “because hedge funds that are losing money but also selling credit insurance may not be able to honor their commitments, rendering the protection worthless.” (“Insuring against Credit Risk can carry risks of its own” Henny Sender, Wall Street Journal)

Credit insurance in the form of credit default swaps have created a false sense of security that may prove to be unfounded. In fact, the Credit insurance business has probably encouraged lenders to make shakier and shakier loans believing that they were protected from risk. But that doesn’t appear to be the case. For example, Bear Stearns tried to soothe investor’s fears during the collapse of its two hedge funds by pointing to its derivatives coverage.

“Bear executives repeatedly referred to their dependence on hedges, including credit derivatives, to offset their losses on subprime mortgages and loans to poorly rated companies, stating that such hedges would offset losses.” (Ibid, H. Sender, Wall Street Journal)

We all know how that story ended up.

Derivatives have been celebrated as a critical part of the “new architecture of the financial markets”. Now we can see that they are poor-performers under real-life conditions and liable to trigger an even greater disaster. If the stock market stumbles, we can expect a major breakdown in credit insurance-trading with trillions of dollars in derivatives disappearing overnight.

The abstruse world of derivatives trading will suddenly explode onto the headlines of newspapers across the country.

HOUSING BRUSHFIRE SWEEPS THROUGH THE ECONOMY

The contamination from the massive real estate bubble has now infected nearly every area of the broader market. The swindle which began at the Federal Reserve--with cheap, low interest credit---has spread through the entire system and is threatening to wreak financial havoc across the planet. The Fed’s multi-billion dollar bailout will do nothing to contain the brushfire they started or avert the catastrophe that lies ahead. Greenspan opened Pandora’s Box and we’ll all have to live with the consequences.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/9325

mhgaffney
08-15-2007, 12:54 AM
My neighbor -- who follows the markets closely -- told me that Bush's Treasury Secretary Paulson -- was formerly involved in hedge fund trading.

So this is the kind of "leadership" we have. Bush has the Midas touch. Everything he touches turns to ****.

And get this -- I also learned that -- last week when the Fed pumped many billions into the system -- what it actually did was bail out the hedge fund carnivores. Most of the funny money the Fed created out of thin air -- was spent buying up vast amounts of faltering derivatives and hedge funds.

In other words -- the Fed was buying up debt -- bailing out the very same bastards who have wreaked devastation to our nation and the world.

This quick fix -- is bound to fail. The best it can do is buy a little time for Bush and his cronies in the banking world. The white collar criminals who gave us 911 and the disasters we have seen since.

These disasters profit a very few -- but just how bad does it have to get before the American people get hopping mad and lynch the SOBs

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-15-2007, 01:04 AM
And get this -- I also learned that -- last week when the Fed pumped many billions into the system -- what it actually did was bail out the hedge fund carnivores. Most of the funny money the Fed created out of thin air -- was spent buying up vast amounts of faltering derivatives and hedge funds.

In other words -- the Fed was buying up debt -- bailing out the very same bastards who have wreaked devastation to our nation and the world.


Yep.

One hand washes the other, eh?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-09-2007, 10:02 AM
Are The Banks In Trouble?

By Mike Whitney

“The new capitalist gods must love the poor – they are making so many more of them.” Bill Bonner, “The Daily Reckoning”

“The hope of every central bank is that the real problem can be kept from public view. The truth is that the public---even professionals on Wall Street---have no clue what the real problem is. They know it has something to do with derivatives, but none of them realize that it’s more than a $20 trillion mountain of unfunded, unregulated paper that has just been discovered to not have a market and, therefore, no real value… When the dollar realizes the seriousness of the situation---be that now or sometime soon---the bottom will drop out.” Jim Sinclair, Investment analyst

About a month ago, I wrote an article “Stock Market Brushfire: Will there be a run on the banks?” which showed how the collapse in the housing market and the deterioration in mortgage-backed bonds (CDOs) in the secondary market was creating difficulties for the banking system. Now these problems are becoming more apparent.

From the Wall Street Journal:

“The rising interbank lending rates are a proxy of sorts for the increased risk that some banks, somewhere, may go belly up.” (Editorial; WSJ, 9-6-07)

Ironically, the WSJ editorial staff—-which normally defends deregulation and laissez faire economics "tooth-n-nail"---is now calling for regulators to make sure they are “on top of the banks they are supposed to be regulating, so we don’t get any surprise bank failures that spook the markets and confirm the worst fears being whispered about.”

“Surprise bank failures?”

Henry Liu sums it up like this in his article, "The Rise of the non-bank system"---required reading for anyone who wants to understand why a stock market crash is imminent:

“Banks worldwide now reportedly face risk exposure of US$891 billion in asset-backed commercial paper facilities (ABCP) due to callable bank credit agreements with borrowers designed to ensure ABCP investors are paid back when the short-term debt matures, even if banks cannot sell new ABCP on behalf of the issuing companies to roll over the matured debt because the market views the assets behind the paper as of uncertain market value.

This signifies that the crisis is no longer one of liquidity, but of deteriorating creditworthiness systemwide that restoring liquidity alone cannot cure. The liquidity crunch is a symptom, not the disease. The disease is a decade of permissive tolerance for credit abuse in which the banks, regulators and rating agencies were willing accomplices." (Henry Liu,”The Rise of the Non-bank System”, Asia Times)

That's right; nearly $1 trillion in worthless asset-backed paper is clogging the system putting the kybosh on the big private equity deals and spreading panic through the money markets. It's a slow-motion train wreck and there's not a thing the Fed can do about it.

This isn't a liquidity problem that can be fixed by lowering the Fed's fund rate and creating more easy credit. This is a solvency crisis; the underlying assets upon which this world of "structured finance" is built have no established market value, therefore---as Jim Sinclair suggests---they're worthless. That means that the trillions of dollars which have been leveraged against these shaky assets---in the form of credit default swaps (CDSs) and numerous other bizarre-sounding derivatives---will begin to cascade down wiping out trillions in market value.

Continued: http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/9810

Bronco_Beerslug
09-09-2007, 10:29 AM
Will there be a run on the banks?Uh, no.

Rohirrim
09-09-2007, 11:28 AM
I'm still on the lookout for an economist who can write in English. They're all a bunch of effin witch doctors and shamans who know about as much about what this economy is doing to do next as my dog does. Throw the bones! Read the tea leaves! Do a trend analysis. Good luck. In 1929 there were a whole bunch of economic experts too. And they sounded just as good as the ones we have now.

W*GS
09-09-2007, 11:44 AM
I second what Beerslug said.

The economic ignorance and fearmongering and doomsterism in this thread (and several others) is disheartening.

Bronco_Beerslug
09-09-2007, 12:14 PM
I second what Beerslug said.

The economic ignorance and fearmongering and doomsterism in this thread (and several others) is disheartening.Well, I've been saying for years that this economy is somewhat phony and at some point is going to come back down to earth (but not collapse the country like Ron Paul says is going to happen maybe by X-mas). Everything is so integrated and global now that a "economic collapse" (Ron Paul again) is not very probable in the foreseeable future with Asian and Euro countries fueling growth for years to come.

W*GS
09-09-2007, 12:35 PM
Exactly.

Rohirrim
09-10-2007, 10:55 AM
Yeah, everybody believes it can't happen here. The same song and dance they were doing in 1929. The Federal Reserve was established in 1913 and everybody patted each other on the back and told each other that there would be no more slumps or panics in the market. Right. I'm just waiting for somebody to step forward and say, "This ship is absolutely unsinkable." Pride goeth before the fall.

Read about Irving Fisher, one of the predominant, and most popular. economists of the 1920s. Everybody bought his books. Everybody quoted him. Everybody was caught up in the bull market he espoused and his idea that the U.S. was entering an era, in 1929, of "unprecedented prosperity." He even stated that some of the market burps of the late 1920s were simply beneficient corrections that would shake out the "fringe of lunatics." His idea was that the "captains of industry" were so interconnected and their industries so integrated that everybody would work to hold everybody else up. Experts.

I'm not saying I believe in an imminent crash, but anybody who says it's impossible is drinking the koolaid. It can always happen.

Bronco_Beerslug
09-10-2007, 11:10 AM
Yeah, everybody believes it can't happen here. The same song and dance they were doing in 1929. The Federal Reserve was established in 1913 and everybody patted each other on the back and told each other that there would be no more slumps or panics in the market. Right. I'm just waiting for somebody to step forward and say, "This ship is absolutely unsinkable." Pride goeth before the fall.

Read about Irving Fisher, one of the predominant, and most popular. economists of the 1920s. Everybody bought his books. Everybody quoted him. Everybody was caught up in the bull market he espoused and his idea that the U.S. was entering an era, in 1929, of "unprecedented prosperity." He even stated that some of the market burps of the late 1920s were simply beneficient corrections that would shake out the "fringe of lunatics." His idea was that the "captains of industry" were so interconnected and their industries so integrated that everybody would work to hold everybody else up. Experts.

I'm not saying I believe in an imminent crash, but anybody who says it's impossible is drinking the koolaid. It can always happen.

I haven't seen anyone say it's impossible (Ron Paul's gloom and doom about the country falling because of an "economic collapse") but it's really unlikely given the web of world economics of today.

Rohirrim
09-10-2007, 11:20 AM
I guess as long as the Fed is willing to back up the mindless speculation of Wall Street (as it is doing right now for the ARM slimeballs) then the illusion of stability will be maintained.

alkemical
09-10-2007, 02:11 PM
Central bankers warn housing crisis could hit whole US economy (http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Central_bankers_warn_housing_crisis_09102007.html)

Trichet was speaking in his capacity as head of the G10 group of central bankers from industrialised and emerging economies, who met at the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) here.

"There is a probability of fallout on the real economy in the USA," Trichet said.

"We will have to follow very carefully what happens particularly in the USA. We will remain ... alert, (there is) no time for complacency," he added.

Bronco_Beerslug
09-10-2007, 05:56 PM
Central bankers warn housing crisis could hit whole US economy (http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Central_bankers_warn_housing_crisis_09102007.html)

Trichet was speaking in his capacity as head of the G10 group of central bankers from industrialised and emerging economies, who met at the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) here.

"There is a probability of fallout on the real economy in the USA," Trichet said.

"We will have to follow very carefully what happens particularly in the USA. We will remain ... alert, (there is) no time for complacency," he added.How could the subprime mess and credit crunch NOT effect the whole economy?

Like I said to all those over that last few years who were touting this economy, it was only a matter of time before it would come back to Earth since it was being artificially propped up (mostly by people over extending themselves through the housing markets).

elsid13
09-10-2007, 06:18 PM
Yeah, everybody believes it can't happen here. The same song and dance they were doing in 1929. The Federal Reserve was established in 1913 and everybody patted each other on the back and told each other that there would be no more slumps or panics in the market. Right. I'm just waiting for somebody to step forward and say, "This ship is absolutely unsinkable." Pride goeth before the fall.

Read about Irving Fisher, one of the predominant, and most popular. economists of the 1920s. Everybody bought his books. Everybody quoted him. Everybody was caught up in the bull market he espoused and his idea that the U.S. was entering an era, in 1929, of "unprecedented prosperity." He even stated that some of the market burps of the late 1920s were simply beneficient corrections that would shake out the "fringe of lunatics." His idea was that the "captains of industry" were so interconnected and their industries so integrated that everybody would work to hold everybody else up. Experts.

I'm not saying I believe in an imminent crash, but anybody who says it's impossible is drinking the koolaid. It can always happen.

Expect the FED role and power are a lot different then it was in 1920s. Add in the systems now used by the brokers it very hard to destory the economy. Slow it down - yes, set it back - yes - Crash/collapse - Bobo get laid by live woman first.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-10-2007, 06:19 PM
Yeah, everybody believes it can't happen here. The same song and dance they were doing in 1929. The Federal Reserve was established in 1913 and everybody patted each other on the back and told each other that there would be no more slumps or panics in the market. Right. I'm just waiting for somebody to step forward and say, "This ship is absolutely unsinkable." Pride goeth before the fall.



Bingo. :thumbsup:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-10-2007, 06:21 PM
Expect the FED role and power are a lot different then it was in 1920s. Add in the systems now used by the brokers it very hard to destory the economy. Slow it down - yes, set it back - yes - Crash/collapse - Bobo get laid by live woman first.

I wonder if anyone actually read the article?

This isn't a liquidity problem that can be fixed by lowering the Fed's fund rate and creating more easy credit. This is a solvency crisis; the underlying assets upon which this world of "structured finance" is built have no established market value, therefore---as Jim Sinclair suggests---they're worthless. That means that the trillions of dollars which have been leveraged against these shaky assets---in the form of credit default swaps (CDSs) and numerous other bizarre-sounding derivatives---will begin to cascade down wiping out trillions in market value.

elsid13
09-10-2007, 06:31 PM
I wonder if anyone actually read the article?

Yes I read the article, but I also don't give much credit to a blogger that doesn't have publish recognized scholar article (I have access to unversity library system and did the author search) in anything beside his web site.

Are we in crunch yes, are there fundimental business **** ups that occured- yes, is the economy about exploded no.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-10-2007, 06:39 PM
Yes I read the article, but I also don't give much credit to a blogger that doesn't have publish recognized scholar article (I have access to unversity library system and did the author search) in anything beside his web site.

I guess that's one way to avoid the question of whether or not his facts are in
order and his conclusions are valid.

(Not to mention the absurd implication that only those folks with some academic credential or other understand the world of finance, how the markets work, etc.)

Taco John
09-10-2007, 07:38 PM
A run on the banks? For what? If there was an economic collapse that affected the US dollar, you might as well be running to the office supply store for notebook paper. Retrieving paper-backed cash isn't going to do you a lot of good.

So long as OPEC continues to accept only US dollars for their oil, and so long as demand for OPEC oil is high, the US Dollar is safe and sound. Not necessarily stable... It's still subject to inflation from the bastards who print it and dish it out to banks in order to "stabilize markets." But at least it's predictable.

alkemical
09-10-2007, 07:58 PM
A run on the banks? For what? If there was an economic collapse that affected the US dollar, you might as well be running to the office supply store for notebook paper. Retrieving paper-backed cash isn't going to do you a lot of good.

So long as OPEC continues to accept only US dollars for their oil, and so long as demand for OPEC oil is high, the US Dollar is safe and sound. Not necessarily stable... It's still subject to inflation from the bastards who print it and dish it out to banks in order to "stabilize markets." But at least it's predictable.

so would "green" energy drag the dollar down?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-10-2007, 08:03 PM
So long as OPEC continues to accept only US dollars for their oil, and so long as demand for OPEC oil is high, the US Dollar is safe and sound.

The dollar's status as reserve currency isn't the issue.

Reserve currency isn't going to mean squat to most of us when the price of a loaf of bread reaches $20 USD.

Taco John
09-10-2007, 09:45 PM
so would "green" energy drag the dollar down?

That depends...

It's supply and demand. The rule of thumb is this: the higher the price of OPEC gas, the more worldwide demand there is for US dollars. Anything that threatens the price of oil, thus depresses the value of the dollar.

alkemical
09-11-2007, 07:51 PM
That depends...

It's supply and demand. The rule of thumb is this: the higher the price of OPEC gas, the more worldwide demand there is for US dollars. Anything that threatens the price of oil, thus depresses the value of the dollar.

interesting

Bronco_Beerslug
09-11-2007, 08:50 PM
That depends...

It's supply and demand. The rule of thumb is this: the higher the price of OPEC gas, the more worldwide demand there is for US dollars. Anything that threatens the price of oil, thus depresses the value of the dollar.The dollar is devaluing no matter what price level oil is. China and others demand for oil is steadily increasing as is ours even with higher prices. OPEC oil has to be bought in dollars, true, but demand will stay constant and growing so price changes really don't effect dollar demand like in past times.

alkemical
09-11-2007, 08:52 PM
The dollar is devaluing no matter what price level oil is. China and others demand for oil is steadily increasing as is ours even with higher prices. OPEC oil has to be bought in dollars, true, but demand will stay constant and growing so price changes really don't effect dollar demand like in past times.

it doesn't HAVE to be bought in dollars..... Which is what got Saddam in trouble.... He played is trump card and well - we played ours.

FAITH is what's used in the dollar....

Bronco_Beerslug
09-11-2007, 08:56 PM
it doesn't HAVE to be bought in dollars..... Which is what got Saddam in trouble.... He played is trump card and well - we played ours.

FAITH is what's used in the dollar....It doesn't, when did that change?

alkemical
09-11-2007, 09:03 PM
It doesn't, when did that change?

free market competition:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar_warfare

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_oil_bourse

Bronco_Beerslug
09-11-2007, 09:05 PM
free market competition:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar_warfare

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_oil_bourse
As I said, oil sales are still in dollars.

alkemical
09-11-2007, 09:07 PM
As I said, oil sales are still in dollars.

for now

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-17-2007, 11:07 PM
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