The official Brodie Croyle vs Jay Cutler thread

[Bob's your Information Minister]

We'll track the progress of these two quarterbacks week to week. Should be fun.

Preseason, Week 1:

Brodie Croyle completes 62.5 percent of his passes with no touchdowns. Jay Cutler completes 50 percent of his passes with no touchdowns.

QB rating comparison

Preseason Week 1:
Cutler 93.8
Croyle 40.1

Winner: Cutler



Preseason Week 2
Cutler TBD
Croyle 71.0
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[Victor]

We'll track the progress of these two quarterbacks week to week. Should be fun.

Preseason, Week 1:

Brodie Croyle completes 62.5 percent of his passes with no touchdowns. Jay Cutler completes 50 percent of his passes with no touchdowns.

Winner: Croyle.

http://www.uncrate.com/men/images/2007/01/douche-card.jpg

[Garcia Bronco]

LOL...the classic

[DomCasual]

I had a 6" Subway Club tonight. The secret is to tell them not to put any s oil and vinegar on it. Then, bring it home and put Newman's Caesar dressing on it. Mmmm.

[gunns]

We'll track the progress of these two quarterbacks week to week. Should be fun.

Preseason, Week 1:

Brodie Croyle completes 62.5 percent of his passes with no touchdowns. Jay Cutler completes 50 percent of his passes with no touchdowns.

Winner: Croyle.

Statwhore. They never tell the whole story.

[Rashomon]

We'll track the progress of these two quarterbacks week to week. Should be fun.

Preseason, Week 1:

Brodie Croyle completes 62.5 percent of his passes with no touchdowns. Jay Cutler completes 50 percent of his passes with no touchdowns.

Winner: Croyle.

That would be true if little things like interceptions and actually leading your team to a score didn't count for anything. :rofl:

[tsiguy96]

what about croyles interception?

[BigPlayShay]

Cutler led drives - 1 for 7 points with no INT

Croyle led drives - 3 for 0 points with 1 INT

Winner: Cutler

[theAPAOps5]

What were the QB ratings?

[theAPAOps5]

We can end this pretty quick.

Cutler = Starter
Croyle = Herm wants to play him to see what they got but they are not sold on him

Winner = Cutler

Thank you for playing, good night.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

This got moved to the butt? You guys are some sore manginas around here for sure. This would have been a fun thread.

[Blueflame]

It would have been what it was and is. A troll thread.

[Kaylore]

Don't forget the fumbles! ROFL!

[Los Broncos]

Cutler is the winner

Croyle is a young idiot for getting married so young.

[Orange_Beard]

Why do people even consider this?

I don't get it.

Guess thats why it is "in the butt"

[bronco militia]

Why do people even consider this?

I don't get it.

Guess thats why it is "in the butt"

some people like it in the butt
:wiggle:

not that there's anything wrong with that

[Taco John]

This thread shouldn't have been moved. There's no way we should be afraid of this match-up. And if we are, woe is us.

[Northman]

This thread shouldn't have been moved. There's no way we should be afraid of this match-up. And if we are, woe is us.


I dont think its about being afraid TJ. Its about pointless threads which this is. Come on now man.

[Stormontheplains]

Does Croyle even start? I don't think it is fair to compare JV to Varsity, that will hurt Croyle's self esteem. By the way, I was watching hard knocks, and that receiver who was their first pick is out of shape and dropping balls, great job on that one!!!!!!

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

just more garbage from that moron

[Bob's your Information Minister]

The game's afoot.

[OrangeShadow]

well you should of set some guidlines to how you would base the contest. What stats you are going to use etc...

[Hotrod]

I dont know unless Croyle suddenly becomes an NFL QB this thread might be fun to have around tonight and tomarrow ;D

[BigPlayShay]

Isn't Huard starting tonight?

Loser: Croyle.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Isn't Huard starting tonight?

Loser: Croyle.

Croyle will have to prove himself with inferior talent around him!

[OrangeShadow]

Croyle will have to prove himself with inferior talent around him!

yeah, inferior arm,mind,footwork,accuracy etc. etc. etc.

[crazyhorse]

This thread shouldn't have been moved. There's no way we should be afraid of this match-up. And if we are, woe is us.

I'm surprized he wasn't banned. It is after all about Cutler.

Who, by the way still hasn't broke .500.

[BroncoInferno]

I dont think its about being afraid TJ. Its about pointless threads which this is. Come on now man.

If it is a pointless thread, then it should be a simple matter for you and other like-minded individuals to not open the thread or post in it. Apparently, you and others are simply unable to control yourselves.

[Inkana7]

I'm surprized he wasn't banned. It is after all about Cutler.

Who, by the way still hasn't broke .500.

Still reaching for something, anything, I see.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Cutler plays for the Broncos.

Croyle plays for the Chiefs.

Cutler wins.

[sixtimeseight]

So when Croyle is benched/injured/cut/dead by week 3, then can we just delete this thread?

[Broncos_OTM]

Croyle had one int a fumble and how many times was he sacked. while on the other hand we have cutler no ints no sacks no fumbles. i will take a fifty percent passer over a guy that is 65 any day of the week if they only throw tds and dont make mistakes with the ball

[sixtimeseight]

Is anybody watching the NFL Live guys talk all sorts of **** about KC? Croyle looks like Ringo Starr LOL. Probably plays football about as well too.

[ro_50]

Last time I checked Bob, when the last time Brodie (BTW, did you ever see Croyle play a snap at Alabama) played a full and meaningful game, this was happening to him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpF55SkMp_I&mode=related&search=


WAR DAMN EAGLE AND GO BRONCOS!!!!!

[Rock Chalk]

This thread shouldn't have been moved. There's no way we should be afraid of this match-up. And if we are, woe is us.

This is a troll thread. THats why it was moved.

You moving it back is the biggest problem with this site Isaac. You cant ban Bob, obviously, but this type of **** right here is just trolling and moving it back to the main forum makes you look like an ass.

[Sodak]

I had a 6" Subway Club tonight. The secret is to tell them not to put any s oil and vinegar on it. Then, bring it home and put Newman's Caesar dressing on it. Mmmm.

Awesome, I'll try that.

Vinegar and oil sounds like a douche to me, so I generally try to avoid that. (unless it's on a taco)

I usually eat Subway Club's with bacon grease.

[AboveAverage]

Jesus F'n Christ. Moved from the butt back to the main forum? Has anyone ever seen Bob and Taco at the same place at the same time before? I can hardly believe this.

[BigPlayShay]

Croyle will have to prove himself with inferior talent around him!


You mean like Cutler already did in LAST SEASONS Pre-season?

Winner: Cutler.

[KCStud]

Brodie Croyle=at the same exact point in his development that Jay Cutler was at this time last year

[blake0052]

Cutler only threw two passes and led them to a touchdown on the opening series. Croyle's periotte (sp?) and subsequent pick was was perhaps one of the most unathletic throws I've ever seen forom a quarterback. It reminded me of Jake's left handed throw. To compare the two is like comparing, well, an NFL quarterback to a ballerina.

Winner: Cutler

[Greybeard]

We'll track the progress of these two quarterbacks week to week. Should be fun.

Preseason, Week 1:

Brodie Croyle completes 62.5 percent of his passes with no touchdowns. Jay Cutler completes 50 percent of his passes with no touchdowns.

Winner: Croyle.
You are actually trying to bring Croyle up to Cutler's level? :rofl:

Now I've got to clean the coffee off my monitor screen . . . Hilarious!

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[Taco John]

I dont think its about being afraid TJ. Its about pointless threads which this is. Come on now man.



Are you kidding? Man, I hope I get to update this thread EVERY WEEK.

[Taco John]

This is a troll thread. THats why it was moved.

You moving it back is the biggest problem with this site Isaac. You cant ban Bob, obviously, but this type of **** right here is just trolling and moving it back to the main forum makes you look like an ass.


Fine by me. I'm not afraid of this thread. I'm looking FORWARD to it. This is going to be one of the most amusing threads of the season. Cutler is going to slaughter Brodie.

You need to loosen up, get laid or something.

[MechanicalBull]

I had a 6" Subway Club tonight. The secret is to tell them not to put any s oil and vinegar on it. Then, bring it home and put Newman's Caesar dressing on it. Mmmm.

Thanks for the tip Dom, I'm going to have to try that one. I think the Subway by me isn't doing that good cause now they have a big sign across the street that says SUBWAY with an arrow pointing to the left.

[Moon§hiner]

A lot of unfairness here....I think in order for it to be fair, Bob should be allowed to combine Huard and Brodys stats.

[Greybeard]

Thanks for the tip Dom, I'm going to have to try that one. I think the Subway by me isn't doing that good cause now they have a big sign across the street that says SUBWAY with an arrow pointing to the left.
Sounds great . . . unless there's a Quizno's nearby. Then Subway loses. :thumbsup:

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[Greybeard]

Fine by me. I'm not afraid of this thread. I'm looking FORWARD to it. This is going to be one of the most amusing threads of the season. Cutler is going to slaughter Brodie.

You need to loosen up, get laid or something.
Sounds good . . . BRB! :letsgo:

[Northman]

If it is a pointless thread, then it should be a simple matter for you and other like-minded individuals to not open the thread or post in it. Apparently, you and others are simply unable to control yourselves.


Evidently your unable to mind your own business too. Last i checked, your name is not TJ.

[elsid13]

This should be good, I am drunk, on business travel and stuck in city (INDY) with a gamer conference going on. I have never seen as many dorks in my life. All wearing costumes.

**** it bring it on fat boy I looking to smack you around. OK tell me why the twig is better then Cutler.

[cutthemdown]

I'd say from todays game Croyle will get to go VS the defenses starters next week to see if this games performance wasn't just because the Fish had pulled alot of starters.

[elsid13]

Nice pass Twig

[Kaylore]

He's all over the board. He needs to calm down.

[bap454]

some people like it in the butt
:wiggle:

not that there's anything wrong with that


That reminds me the relatives are in town this weekend. I have to make a quick trip to local conveniance store to stock up on supplies. Be back in a bit, Im off with my handful of quarters and dreams to prepare for!ROFL!

[Florida_Bronco]

He's all over the board. He needs to calm down.

What'd I miss?

[theAPAOps5]

Brodie Croyle=at the same exact point in his development that Jay Cutler was at this time last year

Man a year behind, he must be illiterate, sorry I'll spell it so you can recognize it, illeterate.

[Rock Chalk]

Fine by me. I'm not afraid of this thread. I'm looking FORWARD to it. This is going to be one of the most amusing threads of the season. Cutler is going to slaughter Brodie.

You need to loosen up, get laid or something.

THATS WHY THIS IS A TROLL THREAD YOU DUMB MOTHER ****ER.

We ALL KNOW THAT.

[Rock Chalk]

Bwahahaha

My latest rep comment: Alec 2, TJ 0

[DenverBrit]

We'll track the progress of these two quarterbacks week to week. Should be fun. :::::giggling like a schoolgirl:::::::curtsey:

Preseason, Week 1:

Brodie Croyle completes 62.5 percent of his passes with no touchdowns. Jay Cutler completes 50 percent of his passes with no touchdowns.

KC loses. Denver wins. Winner: Cutler!!

What happened here? Croyle was ahead on irrelevant stats and ints, yet Cutler wins?? ???
Oh, see how it's going to be. You want to judge the QB on wins and losses.
That's not right.
All bets are off!!

Your bets are always 'off.'

[Taco John]

Bwahahaha

My latest rep comment: Alec 2, TJ 0



Two can play that game...

My latest rep: "Thank you for having more class with your posts than Alec."

[Rock Chalk]

Two can play that game...

My latest rep: "Thank you for having more class with your posts than Alec."

Hahaha, wow hurt my feelings. It was probably from Bobo but who gives a **** since Im not interested in being classy with a guy that loves trolls.

[BroncoInferno]

Evidently your unable to mind your own business too. Last i checked, your name is not TJ.

This is an open forum. If you post for all to see, you leave it open for me to respond. And so I shall. Your post I responded to was pitiful. If you don't like Bob, don't read or respond. Simple. Works for me.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Tonight's game was fun to watch.

TOUUUUUUUUUUUUUCHDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN BRODIE CROOOOOOOOOOOYLE!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[Greybeard]

Tonight's game was fun to watch.

TOUUUUUUUUUUUUUCHDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN BRODIE CROOOOOOOOOOOYLE!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Wow, that must have been thrilling!

I remember how I felt when BVP made a touchdown! Ha!

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[Greybeard]

Two can play that game...

My latest rep: "Thank you for having more class with your posts than Alec."
Happy to do it, TJ! :thumbsup:

Now, Alec, you know who did it. :)


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[Bob's your Information Minister]

Wow, that must have been thrilling!



I jumped out of my chair. And the fact that he threw it to my favorite young WR on the roster, Chris Hannon, really got the juices flowing. I was pumped.

[BroncoInferno]

Tonight's game was fun to watch.

TOUUUUUUUUUUUUUCHDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN BRODIE CROOOOOOOOOOOYLE!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

How'd you like that pitiful pick in the end zone? He looked like an a pop warner lad on that one.

(see, anubis, I responded, so I understand that bob may make some annoying counter-response...I accept that possibility as a part of the discourse...I can ignore if I choose, or respond...if I respond I accept whatever follows...perhaps you could do the same and ignore him or accept what he says if you choose to read or respond to him).

[Bob's your Information Minister]

How'd you like that pitiful pick in the end zone? He looked like an a pop warner lad on that one.


**** happens. All part of going with a young quarterback.

No guts, no glory. (now you may make a joke about bob's sizable gut).

[Greybeard]

I jumped out of my chair. And the fact that he threw it to my favorite young WR on the roster, Chris Hannon, really got the juices flowing. I was pumped.
I understand, although it's been a while for me.

It became so routine for Cutler that I simply had an extra swig of Coors.
Had to cut that out, though . . . happened so often I got snockered! 8')

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[BroncoInferno]

**** happens. All part of going with a young quarterback.

No guts, no glory. (now you may make a joke about bob's sizable gut).

At least his arm did not pop out of socket as it likely will when the real bullets start flying. The dude is built like Gumby without the flexibility.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

At least his arm did not pop out of socket as it likely will when the real bullets start flying. The dude is built like Gumby without the flexibility.

Croyle took some hits the last two weeks and bounced right up. I'm trying to figure out why he isn't in the hospital at this very moment.

[Arkansas Bronco]

WTH you guys love quoting him ( only have 2 on ignore boob and Socalrodo and the 2nd guy is a no one). Please keep the trolls out, I wont jumpon ya but people are sick of reading his junk.

[SportinOne]

Ryan Leaf once threw a touchdown in a preseason game.

[Taco John]

Ryan Leaf once threw a touchdown in a preseason game.



Over at Chiefs Planet, someone started a thread about Brodie Croyle being the next coming of Joe Namath.

[DukeWoody]

It's all about the ratings, good or bad, it doesn't matter, as long as they are there...Negative feed brings in a better rating then positive does, check it, we all know, as much as we don't like it, the negative crap keeps you coming back for more, thats why boob continues to exsist....It's kind of sad when you think about it, but the stupidity and complete idiocy of some of the drama sucking threads that get started are really just part of the whole sope-opera routine around here, and really the choice is to the poster wether to engage or not...So the next time you have a choice, make the right one and free yourself of the negative crap(boobs crapy threads) and just ignor the attention seeking troll...

[Taco John]

Ratings? I don't understand this fascination that people have with the concept of ratings. Ratings? What ratings?

I'm looking at post #1 on this thread, and I'm having a hard time determining what rule got broke. A thread that tracks the progress of our quarterback against one of our most hated rival shouldn't actually ruffle that many feathers. Seems like a legitimate thread topic to me.

It's not about ratings. It's about allowing people the freedom to have a discussion of football topics. This is nothing new. We've allowed fans from other teams to post threads discussing football topics for as long as we've been active. This is not Fin Heaven, where folks are forced to only post good stuff about the Broncos or face being banned. Ratings aren't the goal here. Diverse discussion is.

[Kaylore]

A thread that tracks the progress of our quarterback against one of our most hated rival shouldn't actually ruffle that many feathers. Seems like a legitimate thread topic to me.
It's not. It was one of many threads that Bob farts around to stir the pot and be an attention whore.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

It's not. It was one of many threads that Bob farts around to stir the pot and be an attention whore.

::)

Stop being such a drama queen.

[SoCalBronco]

Ratings? I don't understand this fascination that people have with the concept of ratings. Ratings? What ratings?

I'm looking at post #1 on this thread, and I'm having a hard time determining what rule got broke. A thread that tracks the progress of our quarterback against one of our most hated rival shouldn't actually ruffle that many feathers. Seems like a legitimate thread topic to me.

It's not about ratings. It's about allowing people the freedom to have a discussion of football topics. This is nothing new. We've allowed fans from other teams to post threads discussing football topics for as long as we've been active. This is not Fin Heaven, where folks are forced to only post good stuff about the Broncos or face being banned. Ratings aren't the goal here. Diverse discussion is.

I was the one who moved it, Boss.

My bad.

It was/is my belief that it wasn't the type of diverse discussion thread that you are talking about because in Bob's opening post, he was using extremely deceptive statistics and going out of his way to reach absurd conclusions in such a way where I thought his only intent there was to just attention whore/aggravate/get under the community's collective skin, rather than have a serious, honest discussion about this topic.

[Blueflame]

I was the one who moved it, Boss.

My bad.

It was/is my belief that it wasn't the type of diverse discussion thread that you are talking about because in Bob's opening post, he was using extremely deceptive statistics and going out of his way to reach absurd conclusions in such a way where I thought his only intent there was to just attention whore/aggravate/get under the community's collective skin, rather than have a serious, honest discussion about this topic.

If you had not moved it, SoCal, I would have. One has to consider the timing of the OP here... our team had just won its first preseason game. Broncos fans wanted to savor the win, not think about/discuss the Chefs.

As a side note, once the food-jacking starts, one can pretty much see how the community in general views the thread topic...

[cutthemdown]

I think it makes it way funner to have posters like Bob around to argue and trade insults with. People on this board are too sensative, too politically correct, and far too soft most of the time. This is football we don't cry about another fan making fun of the Broncos. All you little Nancy's need to grow some balls and stop complaining to the moderators to ban the Queef fans.

Besides what fun would it be when Broncos finally get a win in Arrowhead if Booby wasn't around to kick in the nuts? Instead of crying just try and get him back, maybe you will discover some lost wit in the process.

[RkyMtnThunder]

Seems some people are sensitive about others being sensitive

but hey, cant please em all.

Trolls can be entertaining, but their secret value IMO is bringing everyone together to bash on them.

Unity is not the troll's intention. But it is a decent side effect.

[Killericon]

I'm baffled as to why it's the "Official" Brodie Croyle vs Jay Cutler thread.

[Northman]

(see, anubis, I responded, so I understand that bob may make some annoying counter-response...I accept that possibility as a part of the discourse...I can ignore if I choose, or respond...if I respond I accept whatever follows...perhaps you could do the same and ignore him or accept what he says if you choose to read or respond to him).


Your right, i understand you like to be a complete jackass.

[Northman]

I was the one who moved it, Boss.

My bad.

It was/is my belief that it wasn't the type of diverse discussion thread that you are talking about because in Bob's opening post, he was using extremely deceptive statistics and going out of his way to reach absurd conclusions in such a way where I thought his only intent there was to just attention whore/aggravate/get under the community's collective skin, rather than have a serious, honest discussion about this topic.


You are exactly right and TJ is wrong. Not too mention the fact that Croyle isnt even a starter so again it is pointless.

[BroncoInSkinland]

This is what the front page of the o-mane in the second week of on topic discussion has to offer? A comparisson between a starting quarterback and a second string work in progress? Further it is moved to the butt by a mod attempting to do his job as he sees fit, then that mod gets reprimanded in public and his decision reversed because the site whipping boy/ head admins lap dog started the thread? Well at least speaking of butts is still worthwhile. Congrats TJ, you have just taken one step closer to a soft-core porn site.

[Sassy]

You are exactly right and TJ is wrong. Not too mention the fact that Croyle isnt even a starter so again it is pointless.

I agree it was a thread "meant for the butt" waiting to happen. I have to agree with So. Cal on his decision.

[Crushaholic]

I just found the whole thread amusing from the standpoint that they aren't playing football for real, yet. They are trying to get their timing patterns right and everybody on the same page. There is no real game planning going on. Everybody knows it, but people seem to get jacked up for preseason because it's some form of football. If Bob wants to extol the "virtues" of Brodie Croyle, let him have it. It will only become funnier if Damon Huard gets the starting nod in Week 1....ROFL!

"Butt-worthy" threads, IMO, are threads which are inappropriate for the main forum or have stooped to an insult fest. Ignore the thread as the ramblings of an idiot and let it fall off the front page. Problem solved.

[RaiderH8r]

I jumped out of my chair. And the fact that he threw it to my favorite young WR on the roster, Chris Hannon, really got the juices flowing. I was pumped.

Jesus Christ Boob you are easily amused. BTW I've seen your picture, you don't so much get "pumped". More like "inflated".

And never, EVER, talk about your juices flowing. I haven't even made it through my morning coffee and my day is ruined.

[RaiderH8r]

Croyle took some hits the last two weeks and bounced right up. I'm trying to figure out why he isn't in the hospital at this very moment.

I'm trying to figure out why they let tards on the interwebs. It looks like we'll both have to settle with befuddled for now.

[RaiderH8r]

Croyle does fetch a mean gatorade. His footwork and timing are impeccable but he tends to get some spill over when he's trotting it back to the bench. Rookie mistake that can easily be corrected with proper coaching. Brandi has a bright future as Pine Bitch.

Winner: Croyle

[Popcorn Sutton]

Ignoring the fact that this was started about 3 weeks too early (by a welching, lying, piece of **** troll) I wouldn't mind seeing how it plays out once the regular season starts. Just my humble opinion.

Carry on.

[cousinal11]

Who is this Croyle guy? I watched the first units last night just to see who boob has been talking about but I never heard his name.

[Taco John]

Further it is moved to the butt by a mod attempting to do his job as he sees fit, then that mod gets reprimanded in public...

Actually, no one got reprimanded.

[BroncoFiend]

I just don't see the big deal here, if you don't like what he writes, don't respond. I have friends who are fans of teams all over the NFL. Part of the fun is debating who is better and why.

Bob is a jerk and I prefer not to respond to him any more because of it, but I just don't see the big deal about a rival talking smack on a board about football.

[kamakazi_kal]

Croyle will have to prove himself with inferior talent around him!

such a tool.........or troll......whatever.

[BoiseBluTurf]

Actually, no one got reprimanded.

Reprimanded? Probably not... Shown up... YEP... its no secrete that You Have different rules for different posters... Apparantly You also Mod the Mods... Hey... its your world... we are just typing in it.



Typical Vandal.


That is all


Michael

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

Can we make a bet out of this?

[Rock Chalk]

Wow, two mods agree this is a garbage thread.

Taco doesnt because he likes trolls.

FTW, lets allow Boob to post whatever he wants.

[Taco John]

It's not that I like trolls so much as I like discussing how much better our team is than our competitors. I respectfully disagree with the moderators who moved this. As big a tool as Bob is, I think that there is merit to a discussion thread that compares Croyle and Cutler, even if it was started by someone with an agenda to paint Croyle in a more positive light. I fully realize what Bob's goal is here, and understand that he's going to try to say that Croyle is better than Cutler at ever turn that he possibly can. I'm ok with that because I don't honestly care what he has to say. His opinions don't anger me, so much as they make me laugh.

[Derger_Louis]

I think it makes it way funner to have posters like Bob around to argue and trade insults with. People on this board are too sensative, too politically correct, and far too soft most of the time. This is football we don't cry about another fan making fun of the Broncos. All you little Nancy's need to grow some balls and stop complaining to the moderators to ban the Queef fans.

Besides what fun would it be when Broncos finally get a win in Arrowhead if Booby wasn't around to kick in the nuts? Instead of crying just try and get him back, maybe you will discover some lost wit in the process.

I agree. I don't see what the big deal is...

[Garcia Bronco]

Awe yeah...had some Thai this after...super spicy

[Taco John]

Awe yeah...had some Thai this after...super spicy


You ever have Drunken Noodles?

I can never order anything else off a Thai menu because I'm so amused by the fact that they're called "drunken noodles." Definitely tasty.

[Garcia Bronco]

You ever have Drunken Noodles?

I can never order anything else off a Thai menu because I'm so amused by the fact that they're called "drunken noodles." Definitely tasty.

I have not. I usually go with spicy chicken with breading if at all possible. I'll have to try that out.

[baja]

Thai fish soup (Tom Yum), nothing better.

http://recipegal.com/soups/ThaiFishSoup.htm

[BroncoFiend]

QB rating comparison

Preseason Week 1:
Cutler 93.8
Croyle 40.1

Winner: Cutler



Preseason Week 2
Cutler TBD
Croyle 71.0

[Mercer]

I just found the whole thread amusing from the standpoint that they aren't playing football for real, yet. They are trying to get their timing patterns right and everybody on the same page. There is no real game planning going on. Everybody knows it, but people seem to get jacked up for preseason because it's some form of football. If Bob wants to extol the "virtues" of Brodie Croyle, let him have it.

Preseason scrimmages.....and every one thinks the sky is falling!!!


It will only become funnier if Damon Huard gets the starting nod in Week 1....ROFL!

Good point...and that is to be determined...

[Mercer]

QB rating comparison

Preseason Week 1:
Cutler 93.8
Croyle 40.1

Winner: Cutler



Preseason Week 2
Cutler TBD
Croyle 71.0

Yep, preseason means everything...:thumbsup: You ARE a great statistician! Preseason stats really tell what the season will bring.:kiddingme

gimme stats DURING the season and they will mean something, until then, you are as inane as Bob.

[Rashomon]

gimme stats DURING the season and they will mean something, until then, you are as inane as Bob.


OK.
2006 Regular Season
ATT COMP TD INT RATING
Cutler 81 137 9 5 88.5
Croyle 3 7 0 2 11.9

Winner: CUTLER.
I think Croyle got stuck in starting gate.

[Mercer]

OK.
2006 Regular Season
ATT COMP TD INT RATING
Cutler 81 137 9 5 88.5
Croyle 3 7 0 2 11.9

Winner: CUTLER.
I think Croyle got stuck in starting gate.

Croyle has yet to start in an NFL game, yet you and Bob want to compare him to Cutler. I hope Denver underestemates him all year.

[theAPAOps5]

Yep, preseason means everything...:thumbsup: You ARE a great statistician! Preseason stats really tell what the season will bring.:kiddingme

gimme stats DURING the season and they will mean something, until then, you are as inane as Bob.

Well, Bob said the comparison starts with game one of the preseason and by having a higher completion percentage Croyle won. I asked what the QB rating was and he gave it. Since we were starting from that game it makes perfect sense to use it. Your attack is pretty lame. We aren't comparing who will have the better season or career its a game by game contest.

Go read the whole thread then come back smart guy! Might want to stick to that mostly lurking thing you had going on.

[Mercer]

Well, Bob said the comparison starts with game one of the preseason and by having a higher completion percentage Croyle won. I asked what the QB rating was and he gave it. Since we were starting from that game it makes perfect sense to use it. Your attack is pretty lame. We aren't comparing who will have the better season or career its a game by game contest.

Attack??? Dang, you bronco fans are sensitive. You'd know it if I attacked...but I am not that way. I am not here to do that, it's not my style, but please get the sand out of your mangina.

Go read the whole thread then come back smart guy!.

Now that, would obviously be good advice. I can't understand why Boob would want to consider preseason stats...makes no sense at all. But as you have observed, I didn't take time to read the whole thread before opening MY pie hole. The smart guy comment..grade schoolish at best.

Might want to stick to that mostly lurking thing you had going on.

I'd like to tell you what you might wanna do also, but I have stated that I am not here to ruffle feathers as sensitive as yours....so have a great night sweet one.

[theAPAOps5]

Attack??? Dang, you bronco fans are sensitive. You'd know it if I attacked...but I am not that way. I am not here to do that, it's not my style, but please get the sand out of your mangina.



Now that, would obviously be good advice. I can't understand why Boob would want to consider preseason stats...makes no sense at all. But as you have observed, I didn't take time to read the whole thread before opening MY pie hole. The smart guy comment..grade schoolish at best.



I'd like to tell you what you might wanna do also, but I have stated that I am not here to ruffle feathers as sensitive as yours....so have a great night sweet one.

Came across as an attack to me. If it wasn't then my apologies. I could care less about the competition but I was curious to see what the QB ratings were as Bob only used one obscure stat.

Right now its a dumb comparison because like you I don't think you can really compare until the games are real.

[Mercer]

Came across as an attack to me. If it wasn't then my apologies. I could care less about the competition but I was curious to see what the QB ratings were as Bob only used one obscure stat.

Right now its a dumb comparison because like you I don't think you can really compare until the games are real.

Apologies accepted. Boob used only 1 obscure stat....gee, sounds typical.

Yeah, we agree, preseason just doesn't matter, and Boob makes dumb comparisons!!

[azbroncfan]

Someone post Cutler's Preseason Stats from last year as a rookie and compare them to breaky fraile's this year and put an end to all the garbage. I couldn't find the preason stats.

[Punisher]

Croyle vs Cutler lol its like barry vs ricky watters....Cutler will win come on Croyle really stinks

[Paladin]

I'm not gonna agree that Croyle "stinks", but he is not in the same class of potential as Cutler, that much is certain. The issue is whether Cutler or Croyle develop to their potentials. That isn't happening for another couple of years. And the development o fthe team around them.

OTOH, too many people who know a whole lot more about QBs and the play of that position think and have stated that Cutler is very talented. Similar ratings for Croyle are noticeably lower.

Nonetheless, the season will be determined by the teams, not by a QB per Se.

[KCStud]

The difference between Croyle and Cutler is that Croyle needs a lot more experience so he won't make mistakes like this INT in the Miami game. -picture courtesy of Bob-

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5531/dumpit2fi5.jpg

[KCStud]

I'm not gonna agree that Croyle "stinks", but he is not in the same class of potential as Cutler, that much is certain. The issue is whether Cutler or Croyle develop to their potentials. That isn't happening for another couple of years. And the development o fthe team around them.

OTOH, too many people who know a whole lot more about QBs and the play of that position think and have stated that Cutler is very talented. Similar ratings for Croyle are noticeably lower.

Nonetheless, the season will be determined by the teams, not by a QB per Se.

I agree with this. I don't think Phillip Rivers is that good of a QB. His talent that surrounds him is young and elite thus helping him look very good.

[theAPAOps5]

I agree with this. I don't think Phillip Rivers is that good of a QB. His talent that surrounds him is young and elite thus helping him look very good.

Of course you would agree with this because its saying Croyle may be good. He won't be and you know what neither may Cutler. But at least Cutler has developed after a year in the league. And once again you make yourself look dumb saying Phillip Rivers isn't that good. He is good but he also showed some weakness dealing with the Blitz. I would take him as a ROOKIE over Croyle any day.

[Garcia Bronco]

I agree with this. I don't think Phillip Rivers is that good of a QB. His talent that surrounds him is young and elite thus helping him look very good.

Rivers is a good QB. I hate to break it to people. He was good at NCS, and he's been pretty good thus far for the Chargers.

[footstepsfrom#27]

I can't believe this is an actual thread...LOL

[bamanjam]

Since we are talking about games that don't matter, nor add up to anything. Today I played K.C. on Madden and Cutler had a 154 QB rating and 7 touchdowns and 0 interceptions. Brodie Croyle had a 17 QB rating with 0 touchdowns and 4 interceptions. I think Cutler won this make believe battle. You guys are right it will be a fun comparison...HA

[KCStud]

Of course you would agree with this because its saying Croyle may be good. He won't be and you know what neither may Cutler. But at least Cutler has developed after a year in the league. And once again you make yourself look dumb saying Phillip Rivers isn't that good. He is good but he also showed some weakness dealing with the Blitz. I would take him as a ROOKIE over Croyle any day.

Rivers was one of the weakest links on the offense last year. He got into tantrums whenever things weren't going his way.
I think you are forgeting Cutler has played 5 games and Croyle has not even started yet. Of course Cutler is more developed. He has way more experience.
Croyle does not have to be a great QB in our offense. All he needs to do is make the smart throws like Damon Huard did last year and we should be fine.
I remember when Cutler made the same mistakes Croyle has made. It's called growing pains for a reason. Every QB goes through them. Look at Peyton Manning, Alex Smith, and your guys savior John Elway's stats in their first year starting. Not very impressive were they?

A QB's first year starting does not tell what kind of QB he will become 90% of the time

[theAPAOps5]

Again you lack to investigate before you post. Elway, Smith, Manning all played their rookie years. Croyle has sat and watched like they are supposed to and he still looks like crap so far. And just make the easy throws and your offense will be fine. You are an idiot. Your line is in transition, your RB is still not signed and you have no recievers except a rookie with Potential. Your QB has to do more than just make the smart throws.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Rivers was one of the weakest links on the offense last year. He got into tantrums whenever things weren't going his way.
I think you are forgeting Cutler has played 5 games and Croyle has not even started yet. Of course Cutler is more developed. He has way more experience.
Croyle does not have to be a great QB in our offense. All he needs to do is make the smart throws like Damon Huard did last year and we should be fine.
I remember when Cutler made the same mistakes Croyle has made. It's called growing pains for a reason. Every QB goes through them. Look at Peyton Manning, Alex Smith, and your guys savior John Elway's stats in their first year starting. Not very impressive were they?

A QB's first year starting does not tell what kind of QB he will become 90% of the time
I remember watching Brandy Frayle in college get beat like a pinata at a Mexican wedding and thinking to myself...there's no way this guy makes it in the NFL because there's obviously no team stupid enough to draft a guy this small and injury prone.

I was wrong.

[Taco John]

I think you are forgeting Cutler has played 5 games and Croyle has not even started yet. Of course Cutler is more developed. He has way more experience.
Croyle does not have to be a great QB in our offense. All he needs to do is make the smart throws like Damon Huard did last year and we should be fine.
I remember when Cutler made the same mistakes Croyle has made. It's called growing pains for a reason. Every QB goes through them. Look at Peyton Manning, Alex Smith, and your guys savior John Elway's stats in their first year starting. Not very impressive were they?

A QB's first year starting does not tell what kind of QB he will become 90% of the time



Wow... It's like KC fans are having a contest on who can make the most excuses before this comparison really gets under way...

Ha!

[boltaneer]

I agree with this. I don't think Phillip Rivers is that good of a QB. His talent that surrounds him is young and elite thus helping him look very good.

Chief fans like to dump on Rivers because he played poorly in their second meeting last year. They don't look at the entire season. After reading and listening to all this homerism regarding Brodie Croyle, it doesn't surprise me that they have such a skewed football view.

Rivers stepped in where Brees left off and there was no drop-off. In fact, Rivers played better than Brees did in 2005 here.

Give props where they are due. I give LJ props for his performance last year.

Do Chief fans just like to live in denial?

[Killericon]

Do Chief fans just like to live in denial?

Why do you ask questions to which the answers are obvious?

Personally, I don't think it's fair to judge Rivers fully yet. He's had lots of talent around him, and he succeeded. We haven't seen him with a sub-par offense yet, so we can't say how he'd do if he had one. He hasn't been asked to do much, but he's excelled at which he's been asked to do. Not to mention, he's excelled with very sub-par WRs. That's worth noting and commending.

I think Croyle sucks. I can't support it very well it, and you can't argue against it very well. I think Cutler's going to be a great QB for years, and there's a hell of a lot more to support that opinion than there is to support Croyle, or to support the opinion that Cutler will not do well.

Yep. That's essentially my entire opinion on this argument. :thumbsup:

[crazyhorse]

Why do you ask questions to which the answers are obvious?

Personally, I don't think it's fair to judge Rivers fully yet. He's had lots of talent around him, and he succeeded. We haven't seen him with a sub-par offense yet, so we can't say how he'd do if he had one. He hasn't been asked to do much, but he's excelled at which he's been asked to do. Not to mention, he's excelled with very sub-par WRs. That's worth noting and commending.

I think Croyle sucks. I can't support it very well it, and you can't argue against it very well. I think Cutler's going to be a great QB for years, and there's a hell of a lot more to support that opinion than there is to support Croyle, or to support the opinion that Cutler will not do well.

Yep. That's essentially my entire opinion on this argument. :thumbsup:

Uh.......


If you had any football cred. to begin with, it just took a serious hit after that post.

Let's recap.

Rivers might not be good, but he might be good.

Croyle isn't any good you just dont know why.

Cutler is good because you've been told he's good.



That's some pretty air tight stuff, right there.:spit:

[Killericon]

Uh.......


If you had any football cred. to begin with, it just took a serious hit after that post.

Let's recap.

Rivers might not be good, but he might be good.

Croyle isn't any good you just dont know why.

Cutler is good because you've been told he's good.



That's some pretty air tight stuff, right there.:spit:

I was mocking the thread.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Preseason, Week 2 (combined):

Brodie Croyle has completed 57.9 percent of his passes with 1 TD.

Jay Cutler has completed 53.3 percent of his passes with 0 TD.

Winner: Croyle.

[Malcontent]

Loser: bob for still trolling on this board...Even in our suckiest of games...we will still kill your little cheefies.

[OrangeShadow]

Im glad 2 weeks of preseason determine how a 17 week long season is going to go.

[Florida_Bronco]

Chiefs fans: Wish they had Jay Cutler instead of Brodie Croyle

Broncos fans: Excited to face Croyle twice a year.

Winner: Cutler

[crazyhorse]

There seems to have been more traffic on this thread before the Donks played game 2 than after.

Interestting.

I'm predicting either the thread will be moved now. Or there will be a new stream of excuses to laugh at.

It's a win/win.

[kchiefs30]

I havent posted on this board on over a year. I remember why now. Most of the members here are pussies. The Planet is miles ahead of this cesspool. Just ask the owner of this one...

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

So why did you post now?

Pussy.

[KCStud]

Loser: bob for still trolling on this board...Even in our suckiest of games...we will still kill your little cheefies.

Not with that putrid _efense you guys have.

LJ might get 200 yards and 2 TD's on that rush defense. Only Champ and Bly scare teams and that's it. Your DL is horrible, S's are very suspect, and LB doesn't look that much better.

[Florida_Bronco]

I havent posted on this board on over a year. I remember why now. Most of the members here are pussies. The Planet is miles ahead of this cesspool. Just ask the owner of this one...

Yeah, we are really ashamed of the fact that we can't compete with threads about ball sack shaving and "would you let Jessica Simpson do you in the ass with a dilrod if you could bang her afterwards."

Nevermind the fact that Crap Planet uses VBulletin software that is almost half a decade old.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Not with that putrid _efense you guys have.


Hilarious!

Man, how the tables have turned.

The Enver Broncos!

[theAPAOps5]

Its funny how Giddy you guys are after two subpar PRESEASON games. The tables haven't turned for ****. And agreeing with anything KCDud says is just completely asinine. LJ has to be playing to do that you dumb ****s. Looks like Peterson is handling that just great. He can get his 200 yards because we'll take the playoffs.

[theAPAOps5]

I havent posted on this board on over a year. I remember why now. Most of the members here are pussies. The Planet is miles ahead of this cesspool. Just ask the owner of this one...

Man you are a fag. You can't even find football talk over at Queefs Planet. Who's the pussy? You won't even come back and post after this last one.

[Bronx33]

The official bob vs a bowl of cherrios (coming soon!)

[sirhcyennek81]

Man you are a fag. You can't even find football talk over at Queefs Planet. Who's the p***Y? You won't even come back and post after this last one.


I agree with this. Also extends to some Bronco "fans"...who signed up in 2001, 2002 and only have 7 posts.


:Broncos:

[KCStud]

Its funny how Giddy you guys are after two subpar PRESEASON games. The tables haven't turned for ****. And agreeing with anything KCDud says is just completely asinine. LJ has to be playing to do that you dumb ****s. Looks like Peterson is handling that just great. He can get his 200 yards because we'll take the playoffs.

But agreeing with Bronco fans that Croyle will suck because of two preseason games isn't???????????????

I'm sorry but Denver is not gonna make it to the playoffs if they keep playing defense like this. They looked HORRIBLE out there

[sirhcyennek81]

But agreeing with Bronco fans that Croyle will suck because of two preseason games isn't???????????????

I'm sorry but Denver is not gonna make it to the playoffs if they keep playing defense like this. They looked HORRIBLE out there


Chiefs won't make it with their offensive line and QB consistancy issues. However, its preseason. Until it establishes itself in the regular season, its not a problem. You cannot really say the Broncos are unable to play Bate's defense or the Chiefs Solari's offense until you have the same starters in for 4 quarters.


:Broncos:

[theAPAOps5]

But agreeing with Bronco fans that Croyle will suck because of two preseason games isn't???????????????

I'm sorry but Denver is not gonna make it to the playoffs if they keep playing defense like this. They looked HORRIBLE out there

What playing with two base defenses and without a single blitz or stunt? Croyle who all he has to do is make a basic read yet continues to throw INTs. I am confident the D will turn it around. I am also confident that Croyle will be riding the pine again at some point this season.

[Inkana7]

But agreeing with Bronco fans that Croyle will suck because of two preseason games isn't???????????????

I'm sorry but Denver is not gonna make it to the playoffs if they keep playing defense like this. They looked HORRIBLE out there

I doubt you watched the game.

[KCStud]

What playing with two base defenses and without a single blitz or stunt? Croyle who all he has to do is make a basic read yet continues to throw INTs. I am confident the D will turn it around. I am also confident that Croyle will be riding the pine again at some point this season.

Quit being a homer dude. I watched you guys play. Simple runs up the middle and a few sweeps and you guys couldn't stop it at all.

And KC has been very vanilla on offense. This could go both ways. In the end it will all be clear when the season starts

[ZONA]

People are very stupid. Last time I checked you had 4 quarter to play football and the team with the highest score wins. Starters on every team have not even played into the second half yet and there are so many trolls who think they will know how the season is going to play out. Damn, at least wait until ONE FRICKIN regular season game has been played and the starters play the full game before you start flaming. MF are there some stupid as_sss people watching football these days, starting with BOB. The #1 football idiot in the country.

[Los Broncos]

Man you are a fag. You can't even find football talk over at Queefs Planet. Who's the p***Y? You won't even come back and post after this last one.

Hilarious!

[theAPAOps5]

Quit being a homer dude. I watched you guys play. Simple runs up the middle and a few sweeps and you guys couldn't stop it at all.

And KC has been very vanilla on offense. This could go both ways. In the end it will all be clear when the season starts

Can't make an argument so you go with your classic homer. Out of the two of us I am sure most will agree I am not the homer. Still waiting for that quote about the Steelers. Can't find one can't you, par for the course you rarely say anything that you can back up.

[Bronx33]

Can't make an argument so you go with your classic homer. Out of the two of us I am sure most will agree I am not the homer. Still waiting for that quote about the Steelers. Can't find one can't you, par for the course you rarely say anything that you can back up.

He answers to nobody for he is the self proclaimed KC-stud.

[KCStud]

Can't make an argument so you go with your classic homer. Out of the two of us I am sure most will agree I am not the homer. Still waiting for that quote about the Steelers. Can't find one can't you, par for the course you rarely say anything that you can back up.

Why should I need a quote when a Bronco fan in the same thread already knows it's true? Maybe you didn't get the memo.

[theAPAOps5]

Why should I need a quote when a Bronco fan in the same thread already knows it's true? Maybe you didn't get the memo.

No, he knows what really happened. It had nothing to do with playing the SB team and it had all to do with the time slot. You said it was because Bowlen didn't want to play the Steelers. Everyone else shut you down like usual. So again I await the quote that backs up your claim.

[KCStud]

No, he knows what really happened. It had nothing to do with playing the SB team and it had all to do with the time slot. You said it was because Bowlen didn't want to play the Steelers. Everyone else shut you down like usual. So again I await the quote that backs up your claim.

This is so laughable. You don't see other teams crying to the commissioner about their schedule do you? SD had a brutal schedule playing accross the US for 6 weeks and did they cry? Nope.

KC has the hardest opening and closing month in football. Only 1 home game in the first 4 games and 1 in the last 4 games. Are they crying?

[theAPAOps5]

This is so laughable. You don't see other teams crying to the commissioner about their schedule do you? SD had a brutal schedule playing accross the US for 6 weeks and did they cry? Nope.

KC has the hardest opening and closing month in football. Only 1 home game in the first 4 games and 1 in the last 4 games. Are they crying?

Please don't bring up KC, crying, and the commissioner. You already look like an idiot 99% of the time here. Don't make it any easier for us.

[Mercer]

People are very stupid. Last time I checked you had 4 quarter to play football and the team with the highest score wins. Starters on every team have not even played into the second half yet and there are so many trolls who think they will know how the season is going to play out. Damn, at least wait until ONE FRICKIN regular season game has been played and the starters play the full game before you start flaming. MF are there some stupid as_sss people watching football these days, starting with BOB. The #1 football idiot in the country.

I agree. That was my earlier comment....wagering on pre-season??? ROFL! But like Boob or not(and I usually don't) he knows as much as most about football. He just doesn't really know how to apply his observations, sometimes.

[KCStud]

And don't even begin to call me a homer or an idiot because I believe my team will field a better defense. You guys look horrible on defense and KC has looked very good.
KC is also going to rely on the D even more than DEN will.

I believe KC will have a better D than DEN because they will allow less points a game, which is ultimately the biggest indicator how good your defense is. If you want to save this and prove me wrong, then be my guest.

[Kaylore]

Carl has been asking for a bigger playoff field, even when KC makes the playoffs

Which is like once every five years, so that's hardly saying anything.

[Paladin]

Know what? Denver has been playing a vanilla D, too. But it is still better than anything the mullets put up in their last playoff effort.

And Ramsey is better than either of the mullets' wannabe QBs.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Know what? Denver has been playing a vanilla D, too. But it is still better than anything the mullets put up in their last playoff effort.

Wrong.


And Ramsey is better than either of the mullets' wannabe QBs.

Dead wrong.

[KCStud]

Know what? Denver has been playing a vanilla D, too. But it is still better than anything the mullets put up in their last playoff effort.

And Ramsey is better than either of the mullets' wannabe QBs.

Ramsey is still making stupid mistakes this late in his career and Brodie hasn't even started a game yet. That is sad

[Florida_Bronco]

Ramsey is still making stupid mistakes this late in his career and Brodie hasn't even started a game yet. That is sad

Ramsey has never had solid coaching and had to deal with coaching/scheme changes as well.

[Florida_Bronco]

Oh and I'd like to add this...

Croyle: 2 interceptions in 2 games

Cutler: 0 interceptions in 2 games

Winner: Cutler

[azbroncfan]

Brodie Croyle is much better than Cutler. In fact I put him in the conversation of best QB in the league with Manning, Brady, and Palmer.

[KCStud]

Oh and I'd like to add this...

Croyle: 2 interceptions in 2 games

Cutler: 0 interceptions in 2 games

Winner: Cutler

I'm guessing you haven't realized that Croyle hasn't even played a real game yet and that Cutler has played 5 games. In fact, Croyle has only played a little over a game against good competition(1st and 2nd stringers) while Cutler has played about 6 and a half.
I like what I have seen from Croyle. He is making rookie mistakes, but that is part of the process. Even the all time great QB's made rookie mistakes when they were young. It happens to every QB.
Even Cutler is still making mistakes like the fumble. It's not like Cutler is perfect. He won't even be a pro bowler this year. Brady, Manning, Palmer, and Rivers are all better QB's. Even Roethlisberger might be better if he plays like he did in his first 2 years.

[Greybeard]

I havent posted on this board on over a year. I remember why now. Most of the members here are pussies. The Planet is miles ahead of this cesspool. Just ask the owner of this one...

You haven't been missed.

I remember why now.

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[Greybeard]

But agreeing with Bronco fans that Croyle will suck because of two preseason games isn't???????????????

I'm sorry but Denver is not gonna make it to the playoffs if they keep playing defense like this. They looked HORRIBLE out there
You can actually say that, after the squaws widdle scratch fest with the big bad Browns?

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[Taco John]

I havent posted on this board on over a year. I remember why now. Most of the members here are pussies. The Planet is miles ahead of this cesspool. Just ask the owner of this one...



If you're asking the owner of this one, I think you guys are great at dick and fart jokes. I do think that the realities of a Carl Peterson run franchise have beat most of the homerism out of your fan base though, if that's what you mean. But frankly, I stopped visiting the Planet's football discussion area on a regular basis starting after you guys hired Herm. I felt too much pity to be able to sustain any smack for a length of time knowing that you guys were in for a few years of losing seasons. It kind of works along a similar principle (but on a significantly lesser scale) of not making fun of cancer patients. The chemotherapy is giving them enough hell without needing me to add to the misery.

[Kaylore]

I'm guessing you haven't realized that Croyle hasn't even played a real game yet and that Cutler has played 5 games. In fact, Croyle has only played a little over a game against good competition(1st and 2nd stringers) while Cutler has played about 6 and a half.
Exactly! Winner: Cutler

Even Cutler is still making mistakes like the fumble.
That was more Henry dropping the ball at he handoff than Cutler making a rookie mistake. I don't even know why it's listed as Cutler's fumble. I guess because Henry never got possession. Point is that Cutler hasn't turned over the ball yet.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I stopped visiting the Planet's football discussion area on a regular basis starting after you guys hired Herm. I felt too much pity to be able to sustain any smack for a length of time knowing that you guys were in for a few years of losing seasons.

So you must have been pretty disgusted by the fact that Herm outcoached Shanahan twice last year, eh? And stole his playoff spot? :strong:

[DenverBrit]

KC is also going to rely on the D even more than DEN will.


As opposed to relying on that potent offense? A wise move.

I believe KC will have a better D than DEN because they will allow less points a game, which is ultimately the biggest indicator how good your defense is.

Now you're in conflict with Boob, the resident KC stat monkey.
Boob believes that defense is measured by whatever stat he can find.
Scoring D has never worked for him.

Ok, I have to ask. What makes you a Stud?? :strong:
Come on, give us some comic relief!
Hey, it might make a good poll. :thumbsup:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Scoring D has never worked for him.


Works fine.

[Florida_Bronco]

I'm guessing you haven't realized that Croyle hasn't even played a real game yet and that Cutler has played 5 games. In fact, Croyle has only played a little over a game against good competition(1st and 2nd stringers) while Cutler has played about 6 and a half.
I like what I have seen from Croyle. He is making rookie mistakes, but that is part of the process. Even the all time great QB's made rookie mistakes when they were young. It happens to every QB.
Even Cutler is still making mistakes like the fumble. It's not like Cutler is perfect. He won't even be a pro bowler this year. Brady, Manning, Palmer, and Rivers are all better QB's. Even Roethlisberger might be better if he plays like he did in his first 2 years.

No handicaps are given here, it's a straight up competition. :welcome:

[Greybeard]

So you must have been pretty disgusted by the fact that Herm outcoached Shanahan twice last year, eh? And stole his playoff spot? :strong:
So I take it you're pretty proud of the way your squaws backed into the playoffs
last year, then got their widdle pansy asses blown out in their only game?

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[Broncosfreak_56]

So I take it you're pretty proud of the way your squaws backed into the playoffs
last year, then got their widdle pansy asses blown out in their only game?

-----Didnt LJ only get around 50 yards...PLAYING THE COLTS???


Pathetic.

[Mercer]

So I take it you're pretty proud of the way your squaws backed into the playoffs-----

While Denver watched.

last year, then got their asses blown out in their only game?

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Now we did do that! But at least we (sorta) played, instead of eating Chili cheese dogs and watching the game.:approve:

[Mercer]

If you're asking the owner of this one, I think you guys are great at dick and fart jokes.

Yeah....kinda sad. But sometimes football and farts go together....

I do think that the realities of a Carl Peterson run franchise have beat most of the homerism out of your fan base though,

Unlike many, I wear my homerism proudly, without hating other fan bases.

But frankly, I stopped visiting the Planet's football discussion area on a regular basis starting after you guys hired Herm. I felt too much pity to be able to sustain any smack for a length of time knowing that you guys were in for a few years of losing seasons. It kind of works along a similar principle (but on a significantly lesser scale) of not making fun of cancer patients. The chemotherapy is giving them enough hell without needing me to add to the misery.

Very funny....really.....unless you lost your mom to lung cancer, then.....not so funny.

[sixtimeseight]

While Denver watched.



Now we did do that! But at least we (sorta) played, instead of eating Chili cheese dogs and watching the game.:approve:

No you didn't, you sat at home on your fat ass watching the game, same as the rest of us. Sorry to break the news, but you're not on the KC Chiefs.

[theAPAOps5]

Maybe he went to the game...

[KCStud]

As opposed to relying on that potent offense? A wise move.



Now you're in conflict with Boob, the resident KC stat monkey.
Boob believes that defense is measured by whatever stat he can find.
Scoring D has never worked for him.

Ok, I have to ask. What makes you a Stud?? :strong:
Come on, give us some comic relief!
Hey, it might make a good poll. :thumbsup:

Fair enough. I don't measure a D on whatever stat I can find. IMO the best indicator of how good a defense is is their rank in PPG(or points given up obviously).
Measuring a team by yards per game is dumb IMO. You win games by scoring points.

I think that a the team that gives up 400 yards of offense but allows only 12 points has a better defense than the team who gives up 270 yards but allows 28 points

[Greybeard]

While Denver watched.
I know what you mean. We sort of found out how you have felt while watching
Denver the last ten years or so . . . ;)

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[Inkana7]

Fair enough. I don't measure a D on whatever stat I can find. IMO the best indicator of how good a defense is is their rank in PPG(or points given up obviously).
Measuring a team by yards per game is dumb IMO. You win games by scoring points.

I think that a the team that gives up 400 yards of offense but allows only 12 points has a better defense than the team who gives up 270 yards but allows 28 points

Not quite. If you're giving up 400 yards, it usually means your offense just plain sucks and is going three and out all the time. So the D may give up 400 yards and only 12 points, but that'll usually lead to your offense scoring 3.

[azbroncfan]

I think that a the team that gives up 400 yards of offense but allows only 12 points has a better defense than the team who gives up 270 yards but allows 28 points

What about if special teams and Offensive TO's created 14 out of the 28?

[Mercer]

No you didn't, you sat at home on your fat ass watching the game, same as the rest of us. Sorry to break the news, but you're not on the KC Chiefs.

How do you know?? This is the interweb, I could be anyone.

[Mercer]

I know what you mean. We sort of found out how you have felt while watching
Denver the last ten years or so . . . ;)

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Ouch...true, but ouch....btw.....How's it feel to have your team win the SB while you are an adult....I wouldn't know! I was 9 years old when the Chiefs won the SB!!!!!!!!!!!

[Greybeard]

Ouch...true, but ouch....btw.....How's it feel to have your team win the SB while you are an adult....I wouldn't know! I was 9 years old when the Chiefs won the SB!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you kidding? I was an adult back when the Broncos lost their first Super Bowl! Ha!

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[KCStud]

If you want to judge Croyle, then look at him tonight. He'll play the entire first half against the Saints.
The 3rd preseason game is also the most intriguing. Even though LJ won't play, it will be a pretty accurate indicator of how far Croyle has come

[Florida_Bronco]

If you want to judge Croyle, then look at him tonight. He'll play the entire first half against the Saints.
The 3rd preseason game is also the most intriguing. Even though LJ won't play, it will be a pretty accurate indicator of how far Croyle has come

I'm going to keep this post in mind so we can discuss it if/when Croyle sucks tonight.

[Beantown Bronco]

I'm going to keep this post in mind so we can discuss it if/when Croyle sucks tonight.

If he sucks against what is easily the worst passing defense in the league, then KC really has problems....

[Florida_Bronco]

If he sucks against what is easily the worst passing defense in the league, then KC really has problems....

Well if he sucks tonight, I'm sure the tune will change back to "you can't judge him in preseason!"

[KCStud]

I'm going to keep this post in mind so we can discuss it if/when Croyle sucks tonight.

I think he will be much better when LJ, McIntosh and Boomer are in there because they will help with bootlegs and play action, but still Croyle has had some experience and the job is basically his. It will be interesting to see how he does throwing the ball tonight. He can make the plays and drive the offense down the field. It's the rookie mistakes that he needs to correct.

[KCStud]

If he sucks against what is easily the worst passing defense in the league, then KC really has problems....

The worst pass defense was the Bengals last year. That's one reason why Cutler threw deep a lot in that game.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Can't wait to see Brodie tonight. He should throw about 20 passes. Nice large sample size.

[Florida_Bronco]

Well maybe after they see how crappy Croyle is, we can ship them Ramsey for a 1st round pick :D

[crazyhorse]

Well if he sucks tonight, I'm sure the tune will change back to "you can't judge him in preseason!"


Hasn't that been the Bronco fan mantra all preseason?

[KCStud]

Hasn't that been the Bronco fan mantra all preseason?

They're hoping crazyhorse. All Croyle will have to do is hand it off to LJ though. If Marion Barber and Maurice Hicks can get 4.4 YPC and 3 TD's combined on them, than LJ should dominate them. I smell a 300 yard 3 TD year performance by LJ on the Bronkies this year.

[Arkansas Bronco]

You guys will never believe this. Last night in my fantasy draft Croyle went undrafted ???

[Jason7730]

ol' Brodie looks like he is really lighting it up so far.........

[Kaylore]

ol' Brodie looks like he is really lighting it up so far.........

1-6 and a sack. Their defense is letting the running backs have their way with them.

[Florida_Bronco]

ol' Brodie looks like he is really lighting it up so far.........

1 of 6 for 14 yards....definetly sounds like Montana 2.0 to me. :spit:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Brodie had two passes dropped and threw two others away. **** SAMIE PARKER!!!

[AboveAverage]

I'm watching the game. Croyle has looked very unimpressive through the first quarter. He doesn't look completely lost out there, it's just...how can I put this...he doesn't look like he is/will be a good quarterback. The Saints vanilla defense is shutting him down.

[Florida_Bronco]

I'm watching the game. Croyle has looked very unimpressive through the first quarter. He doesn't look completely lost out there, it's just...how can I put this...he doesn't look like he is/will be a good quarterback. The Saints vanilla defense is shutting him down.

I'll say it again...Brodie will gurantee that Dre Bly and Champ make the Pro Bowl this year.

[KCStud]

I'm watching the game. Croyle has looked very unimpressive through the first quarter. He doesn't look completely lost out there, it's just...how can I put this...he doesn't look like he is/will be a good quarterback. The Saints vanilla defense is shutting him down.

The problem is our OT's. He has very little time to find a WR. He has made some good throws. Made two good passes to the Parker and once again he drops them. I hope we cut Parker. Guy couldn't catch a cold.

The defense however looks very good. It has been hard for teams to get a TD on us

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I'll say it again...Brodie will gurantee that Dre Bly and Champ make the Pro Bowl this year.

And Denver's defense will guarantee that LJ makes the Pro Bowl again.

[KCStud]

I'll say it again...Brodie will gurantee that Dre Bly and Champ make the Pro Bowl this year.

And your DL will gaurantee LJ his ticket to Hawaii as well

[Kaylore]

That sucks. Brodie just doubled his completions and then got sucked.

PWND!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Brodie to Bowe. HELL YEAH!

[KCStud]

wow Bowe looks great. Took 3 guys to tackle him after he gained 15 yards

[Florida_Bronco]

And your DL will gaurantee LJ his ticket to Hawaii as well

But...but you can't judge someone off preseason! LOL I see why you and Bob get along so well, you are both idiots who can have different views on the same argument depending on which team it involves.

You better just hope LJ makes it to the Denver/KC game before he shreds a knee, or gets lazy with his big contract. :~ohyah!:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Another pass dropped.

Our pass protection blows. We need McIntosh.

[KCStud]

That sucks. Brodie just doubled his completions and then got sucked.

PWND!

Problem isn't Brodie. The problem is our backup LT. I pray McIntosh is reliable

[Florida_Bronco]

Brodie sucking again.

[KCStud]

But...but you can't judge someone off preseason! LOL I see why you and Bob get along so well, you are both idiots who can have different views on the same argument depending on which team it involves.

You better just hope LJ makes it to the Denver/KC game before he shreds a knee, or gets lazy with his big contract. :~ohyah!:

Who says I'm judging this because of preseason? Do you really want me to bring up LJ's stats against you last year?

[Florida_Bronco]

Problem isn't Brodie. The problem is our backup LT. I pray McIntosh is reliable

Your prayers will go unanswered, as McIntosh is easily one of the worst starting tackles in the game. He makes the 2006 George Foster look good. :rofl:

[Kaylore]

Problem isn't Brodie. The problem is our backup LT. I pray McIntosh is reliable

But bob assured everyone that your tackles would be better! I mean Svitek was all-world in NFL Europa! We all know that means at least second string at the pro-bowl in the regular NFL. Look at Todd Devoe! :thumbs:

[400HZ]

Problem isn't Brodie. The problem is our backup LT. I pray McIntosh is reliable

I guess you have never seen him play.

[Florida_Bronco]

Who says I'm judging this because of preseason? Do you really want me to bring up LJ's stats against you last year?

And all those stats, he still couldn't carry you to a sweep.

[Rock Chalk]

But bob assured everyone that your tackles would be better! I mean Svitek was all-world in NFL Europa! We all know that means at least second string at the pro-bowl in the regular NFL. Look at Todd Devoe! :thumbs:

I remember you singing the praises of Todd Devoe Mr.

[KCStud]

Your prayers will go unanswered, as McIntosh is easily one of the worst starting tackles in the game. He makes the 2006 George Foster look good. :rofl:

I doubt you saw him play last year. Just keep hoping that LJ gets hurt. POS like you that pray for players to get injured are embarassments to their fanbases.

[Florida_Bronco]

But bob assured everyone that your tackles would be better! I mean Svitek was all-world in NFL Europa! We all know that means at least second string at the pro-bowl in the regular NFL. Look at Todd Devoe! :thumbs:

Yeah, Bob is the definition of reliable information. :giggle:

"The Chiefs will never consider trading LJ"

"No way LJ holds out this year"

"It looks like they are really going to trade LJ"

"I just know we will be without LJ in 2007"

"LJ will be signed this week"

"LJ will be signed this week"

"LJ will be signed this week...no really, he will!"

:rofl: !Booya!

[KCStud]

And all those stats, he still couldn't carry you to a sweep.

what does that have to do with him going to the pro bowl?

[AboveAverage]

The problem is our OT's. He has very little time to find a WR. He has made some good throws. Made two good passes to the Parker and once again he drops them. I hope we cut Parker. Guy couldn't catch a cold.

The defense however looks very good. It has been hard for teams to get a TD on us

Uh...I've seen your red zone defense look decent, other than that, have you been watching the same game as me?

Brees 12/14 for 143
Bush 6 rushes for 51 yards

The wideouts
D. Patten 3 44 0 33
D. McAllister 3 28 0 11
E. Johnson 2 13 0 7

They've done whatever they've wanted on offense.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Vanilla defense and we're still only going to give up 6 points in the first half. How you like them apples?

[AboveAverage]

Svitek has been abused all game by Will Smith, he has 2 sacks and multiples pressures/hits on Croyle. He looks like George Foster playing left tackle.

[Florida_Bronco]

I doubt you saw him play last year.

And you base this off of what?

Just keep hoping that LJ gets hurt. Show where I said I hope LJ gets hurt.

POS like you that pray for players to get injured are embarassments to their fanbases. You are the last person who should be talking about embarassing fanbases. You are easily the dumbest Chiefs poster on this board and you can't comprehend what you read.

Would you like to have another go at it, or are you satisfied with the internet bitch slap you just received? :welcome:

[AboveAverage]

Vanilla defense my ass, I've seen you guys bring multiple blitz packages tonight.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

They've done whatever they've wanted on offense.

Yeah...except score a touchdown. We suck.

[KCStud]

"The Chiefs will never consider trading LJ"


Actually Bob was right on that one. Carl stated that he never got a phone call from other teams and never wanted to trade LJ.

Said it on HardKnocks

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Vanilla defense my ass, I've seen you guys bring multiple blitz packages tonight.

Really? My buddy is in the press box and says they're playing mostly base Cover 2.

[Florida_Bronco]

what does that have to do with him going to the pro bowl?

Not much, except for stat monkeys like you and Bobo. LJ ain't gonna carry you to victories this year as long as you field a QB who is the bastard child of Jake Plummer and Brian Griese.

[Florida_Bronco]

Actually Bob was right on that one. Carl stated that he never got a phone call from other teams and never wanted to trade LJ.

Said it on HardKnocks

And you believe that? Especially after all the solid reports of the talks between the Chiefs and Green Bay (which my inside source confirmed while Bobo was still denying).

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Another drop. Larry Johnson is the MVP.

[KCStud]

what are you talking about AboveAverage? KC has not given up a TD yet.
6 red zone appearances and this is what they have allowed

FG
stop on 4th down
FG
FG
stop on 4th down
FG

[Florida_Bronco]

Hilarious! :~ohyah!: LOL

Chiefs are gonna be EASY this year! Mr. Johnson, say hello to 8 and 9 men in the box! :strong:

[KCStud]

(which my inside source confirmed while Bobo was still denying).

Hilarious!

[Kaylore]

I remember you singing the praises of Todd Devoe Mr.
He did some nice things but I was never one of the people that thought he could be more than a backup if that's what you mean. I went back and checked and I don't know what you meant by "singing his praises".

There's these from my camp reports.
Devoe had a hard time today fighting through that injury. He had some key drops and left the field throwing his gloves on the ground. He wants to make the team but is hurt and knows that other guys are stepping up while he's hurting.

This was a flattering one, I guess, but has some negative to it.

Todd Devoe: Had some big catches including the only TD of the practice. Beat a safety and a corner to catch a deep BVP pass for a TD. Unfortunately he also had some drops including a pass from JaY Cutler that hit him right in the hands.

I found this one, which was nice but it was from 2005 when he was doing well in camp.

Todd Devoe: He has one great catch every practice and maintains relatively consistant play otherwise. This time he was down for a deep pass form BVP. It was perfectly thrown and he just beat his man and made the catch. He's got big play potential so he's someone who could make the team.

I suppose predicting he'd could make the team (which he did) was pretty good praise. He was great on special teams for us.

Here's what I wrote after he had that really good game against the Eagles.
I'm not ready to say that Devoe could be a star. He still has some work like that long TD pass he dropped from Mauk. I do think he makes a great fourth or fifth option, though.

I was never high on Devoe as a receiver, though I did like him on special teams. He had several tackles and forced fumble playing special teams.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Man, the Chiefs suck. This is gonna be painful to watch. Interception by Croyle. Fans booing.

[KCStud]

Tipped INT

[Florida_Bronco]

Hilarious!

I know man! How sad is it that a 21 year old guy has a better inside slant to the Chiefs than the 2nd in command for Warpaint Illustrated. LOL

[Florida_Bronco]

Oh lord...25% of Brodies completions are to the other team!!

[AboveAverage]

Croyle was just booed off of the field.

[KCStud]

Oh lord...25% of Brodies completions are to the other team!!

70% of Brodie's throws have been drops by Sammie Parker and Chris Hannon

[AboveAverage]

Croyle is going to be cranking some Daniel Powter on his car ride home.

[KCStud]

Croyle was just booed off of the field.

that was the entire offense

[Florida_Bronco]

Croyle was just booed off of the field.

Are you serious?

Hilarious!

[Florida_Bronco]

70% of Brodie's throws have been drops by Sammie Parker and Chris Hannon

Thats what happens when your QB doesn't have any touch.

[AboveAverage]

that was the entire offense

The entire offense telegraphed an easy pick?