The official Brodie Croyle vs Jay Cutler thread

[Kaylore]

How did this fall off of page 1?

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

They should pick up Tim Crouch. He's available. Maybe Akili Smith, not sure where he is playing these days. Or maybe Todd Marinovich. He could go skateboarding with all of the squaw fans as a bonding experience.

[400HZ]

Trust me on this one - a mere human female can't compare to the squishy innards of a penetrated baked good. And it doesn't talk as much, either.

How would you know?

[broncosteven]

How would you know?

he has penetrated baked goods daily.

[400HZ]

he has penetrated baked goods daily.

Probably, but I doubt he's ever penetrated a human female. How can he compare the two?

[kamakazi_kal]

WOW....... I feel sorry for you bob. Not for the bashing you take on this thread but the fact that the life you lead leaves you no other options but keep coming back for more.

btw I don't think I will ever eat a jelly donut again.....ever

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

WOW....... I feel sorry for you bob. Not for the bashing you take on this thread but the fact that the life you lead leaves you no other options but keep coming back for more.

btw I don't think I will ever eat a jelly donut again.....ever

Won't thick of a twinkie the same way again.

[Los Broncos]

he has penetrated baked goods daily.

:rofl:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

OMG. I just had a threesome with a bear claw and a bavarian cream-filled (consider it double-filled). Incredible.

[broncocalijohn]

PLEASE PEOPLE Boob is not worth quoting. We ask that you refrain from quoting him. Answer him, fine, just many have him on ignore so quoting him squashes that request. How many times do we have to ask for this simple request. This is what i see when boobie posts on the broncos website here:

This message is hidden because Bob's your Information Minister is on your ignore list (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/profile.php?do=editlist).

Dont wait until Christmas to get this. Free to all !

[Popcorn Sutton]

Bump.

[Bronx33]

Can we change the thread title to cutler vs thigpen please

[Popcorn Sutton]

Sorry but I thought this thread was friggin ridiculous when Bob started it and I hate to see it go too far down the heap.

[Paladin]

Surely this is not your first experience of seeing a ridiculous thread stated hereon by a mullet? I assure these are not Award winning efforts. Not at all.

There is little reason to preserve mediocrity and stupidity. Therefor, all mullet postings should be summarily consigned to the Butt for future anthropological study to answer the question: Is there intelligence among the Chiefs' fans? Not that anyone cares but what the heck? If they can study outhouses in England, they can study mullets; same thing, really...

So, please allow the mullet threads and their postings to sink into oblivion. and save some brain cells you could lose from reading those terrible posts......

[Dr. Broncenstein]

I'd actually like to meet him at a tailgate sometime. Seeing as how I'm going to be a cop, I was going to bring my taser. I'm sure everyone will enjoy watching Bob lay on the ground, twitching, crying and pissing his pants. 8')

For you, my fellow Husker fan, I'll even waive the admission fee. :thumbsup:

Awesome. Another tard with authority. Yee hawwww!!!!

[Dr. Broncenstein]

The only thing bob will ever see from me is my easton bat crushing his face. I would drive 4 days and 3 nights just for one swing and then leave.

Am I the only one who thinks this is outright scary?

[cutthemdown]

Am I the only one who thinks this is outright scary?

If you mean scary is in how could you hate somebody so much for goading you about football, then yes it is. I mean cmon nothing anyone on this site has ever said is worth getting violent over. It's just smack talk and you should take it all in good fun. People sometimes take things way too seriously.

[Broncos_OTM]

Am I the only one who thinks this is outright scary?

Beating someone up over a internet message board is a tad bit disturbing. Crushing someone over the face with a easton baseball bat that deserves it doesnt.

[Florida_Bronco]

Awesome. Another tard with authority. Yee hawwww!!!!

Oh give me a break, you couldn't possibly have taken that seriously.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Am I the only one who thinks this is outright scary?

It's false bravado. The internet is full of dumbasses.

[theAPAOps5]

Acceptance is the first step towards healing.


As for the violent posts. Yeah its tounge in cheek smack talk. But the chance it happens is there as its happened. So one should be careful posting what they do, only for the fact that they don't get themselves in trouble. A cop lost his job over internet tough guy talk here.

[Steve Prefontaine]

I love when I see this thread pop up again on the front page.

Bob's a genius. Croyle is gonna be a stud.

[FantomForce]

Go Brody!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Go Brody!

Be careful what you wish for. Brodie could see the field a lot sooner - THIS SEASON - than people here might think.

[theAPAOps5]

Oh God I pray he sees the field. The only thing that migh happen thats bad is Peterson and Herm get axed because of it and competence will be restored to the Queefs.

[FantomForce]

Be careful what you wish for. Brodie could see the field a lot sooner - THIS SEASON - than people here might think.

Please God, if he could only touch the field and make the Chefs look worse:wiggle:

[Broncobiv]

The internet is full of dumbasses.
Well, you're the expert, complete with all sorts of firsthand knowledge on display on this forum!

[Kaylore]

Update!

The recently named captain Jay Cutler put up impressive numbers throwing for 300+ yards leading his team to a come from behind win in the wind and wet against an AFC rival last Sunday. Cutler came through in the clutch converting not one but two fourth downs and driving down the field twice to put his team in position to score.

Brodie Croyle was seen on the sidelines fiddling with his clipboard. It was rumored that he struggled with his headset at one point, but was able fix it so he could back staring from the sidelines where he will spend the majority of his career.

Cutler > Croyle ;)

[dark_hawk]

ok so who was the idiot who thought this would even be close?.....errr never mind i think i know

[Killericon]

Be careful what you wish for. Brodie could see the field a lot sooner - THIS SEASON - than people here might think.

I hope so.

[Broncos_OTM]

I was searching the internet today and i think i found a bob article from last year.


Quarterback
Overrated: Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt
Let me start by saying I do think the pride of the Commodores could well be a solid NFL quarterback. Considering he spent much of his career running from unblocked pass-rushers and throwing to third-rate SEC receivers (until last season, when freshman stud Earl Bennett came on the scene), Cutler's accomplishments at Vandy -- 3,073 yards, 21 touchdowns and nine interceptions as a senior -- were nothing short of remarkable. But the mere fact that many among the NFL cognoscenti are even thinking about taking Cutler ahead of the most dangerous quarterback to come through the college ranks in years (hint: rhymes with "rinse tongue") makes Cutler overrated -- and raises serious questions about how some of these scouts themselves would perform on the Wonderlic.

Underrated: Brodie Croyle, Alabama
Considering how much emphasis the NFL puts on arm strength, you'd think they'd be falling all over themselves for this guy. Croyle has a gun (just ask the Florida secondary). His mechanics are impeccable and his natural leadership abilities had a great deal to do with the Tide jumping out to a 9-0 start last season. I'm sure his substantial injury history (he underwent shoulder and ACL surgeries while in Tuscaloosa) is helping to knock him down the pecking order, but the fifth-year senior was a picture of health last season when he completed nearly 60 percent of his passes for 2,499 yards, 14 touchdowns and just four interceptions. This, despite the fact he played behind a horrendous offensive line that allowed 39 sacks and had to work with a largely unreliable receiving corps after Tyrone Prothro went down with a broken leg.

[Atwater His Ass]

i love this thread. it should be in the ring of fame.

[Steve Prefontaine]

I hope so.
me too.

[rovolution]

Be careful what you wish for. Brodie could see the field a lot sooner - THIS SEASON - than people here might think.

Oh god please let his happen. please...

[Popcorn Sutton]

This thread is great. I look forward to comparing Croyle and Cutler's numbers at the end of the season.

[footstepsfrom#27]

This thread is great. I look forward to comparing Croyle and Cutler's numbers at the end of the season.
Well unless there's an injury Croyle won't have any numbers...oh wait...I'm wrong...he could get plenty of PT in games where the Chiefies are out of it by the half.

[Kaylore]

Jay Cutler was 23 of 33 for 269 yards a touchdown and two interceptions. He once again drove his team down the field to tie it in the fourth and win it in overtime showing his clutch play once again. By the way, he completed 70% of his passes and he was spreading the ball around all day.

Brodie Croyle came off the bench and went 4/4 for 55 yards and accomplished nothing. Though he did play, which is a huge step forward for him.

[Florida_Bronco]

Jay Cutler was 23 of 33 for 269 yards a touchdown and two interceptions. He once again drove his team down the field to tie it in the fourth and win it in overtime showing his clutch play once again. By the way, he completed 70% of his passes and he was spreading the ball around all day.

Brodie Croyle came off the bench and went 4/4 for 55 yards and accomplished nothing. Though he did play, which is a huge step forward for him.

Winner: JAY CUTLER

[KCStud]

Winner: JAY CUTLER

Thought Brodie looked good when he played. Had showed more guts than Huard has all season. Huard is making short 5 yard routes. When Brodie came in he took command.
First pass went for ten yards. Second pass was a beautiful 34 yard lob to Webb. He showed a bit of confidence out there. You could tell Brodie was not scared of the Bears D.
It won't be long til Brodie is in anyway, so as soon as he plays again, this debate will resume

[Florida_Bronco]

Thought Brodie looked good when he played. Had showed more guts than Huard has all season. Huard is making short 5 yard routes. When Brodie came in he took command.
First pass went for ten yards. Second pass was a beautiful 34 yard lob to Webb. He showed a bit of confidence out there. You could tell Brodie was not scared of the Bears D.
It won't be long til Brodie is in anyway, so as soon as he plays again, this debate will resume

OMFG!!1! CROYLE LOOKED GOOD IN GARBAGE TIME!! HE IS L33T!

[KCStud]

OMFG!!1! CROYLE LOOKED GOOD IN GARBAGE TIME!! HE IS L33T!

KC still had a chance to win. Barely under 4 minutes and KC was just outside the redzone.

I wouldn't worry about Cutler if I were you guys. 25 carries for 159 yards and a 6.4 YPC is gonna kill you guys when you start playing teams with strong defenses and good running games(IND, JAC, KC, PIT, and SD).

[broncogary]

KC still had a chance to win. Barely under 4 minutes and KC was just outside the redzone.

I wouldn't worry about Cutler if I were you guys. 25 carries for 159 yards and a 6.4 YPC is gonna kill you guys when you start playing teams with strong defenses and good running games(IND, JAC, KC, PIT, and SD).

Well, we start next week with JAC, although I don't know how you put IND and KC in the strong defense category.

[KCStud]

Well, we start next week with JAC, although I don't know how you put IND and KC in the strong defense category.

KC's D has allowed 26 points in 2 games(13 PPG) and allowed an average of 107 rush yards per game.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Three interceptions in two weeks?

Cutler's headed for Jake Plummer territory if he keeps this up.

[theAPAOps5]

Please Bob go away. Everything you have written all year has been a farce. You are a hack and an embarrassment to Chiefs fans everywhere.

[boltaneer]

The Chief's season was over in week one of the pre-season. Come back next year Bob! ;D

[rodr88]

Three interceptions in two weeks?

Cutler's headed for Jake Plummer territory if he keeps this up.

Even Jake would be an improvement over the 2 QB's that the Chiefs

[Florida_Bronco]

KC still had a chance to win. Barely under 4 minutes and KC was just outside the redzone.

I wouldn't worry about Cutler if I were you guys. 25 carries for 159 yards and a 6.4 YPC is gonna kill you guys when you start playing teams with strong defenses and good running games(IND, JAC, KC, PIT, and SD).

The way LJ has been playing, I'd remove KC from the list of teams with a good running game.

[KCStud]

The way LJ has been playing, I'd remove KC from the list of teams with a good running game.

Apparently you don't watch football. LJ had a 4.3 YPC ave in week 1. He only got 10 carries. I guess since LJ and LT have low rushing totals they both suck huh?

[azbroncfan]

The way LJ has been playing, I'd remove KC from the list of teams with a good running game.

It has more to do with the fact that KC has the worst QB situation in the league and teams put 11 plus Herm in the box.

[crazyhorse]

The Chief's season was over in week one of the pre-season. Come back next year Bob! ;D

The Chargers season was over in the off season.

You've been Turnered.

[Florida_Bronco]

Apparently you don't watch football. LJ had a 4.3 YPC ave in week 1. He only got 10 carries. I guess since LJ and LT have low rushing totals they both suck huh?

But weren't you and Bob telling us that NOTHING could stop him? Not even 8-9 in the box? ???

So why is LJ doing so ****ty? 26 carries 98 yards 3.8 average 0 touchdowns and a long of 10. ??? That sucks.

It has more to do with the fact that KC has the worst QB situation in the league and teams put 11 plus Herm in the box.

No ****, Sherlock. :)

[epicSocialism4tw]

Man...where did all of the Cheffies go?

[broncosteven]

On the touchdown play, Bowe outjumped defenders and teammate Tony Gonzalez.

Gonzalez was the intended receiver, but Bowe changed his route when quarterback Damon Huard started to scramble. This brought Bowe’s defender to the end zone near Gonzalez.

“When the ball is in the air, the intended receiver is whoever gets the ball,” Bowe said. “Being that I’m a playmaker, my job is to make plays no matter where the ball is.

“Tony said, ‘You can’t do that.’ I told him I thought (Huard) was scrambling. He told me not to bring my guy to him. Then he was like, ‘Great catch. Keep doing it.’ It all paid off for me.”

The pass could have been intercepted by either of the two defenders in the area and could have been caught by Gonzalez.

“He made a play,” Gonzalez said. “He ran the wrong route, but I’m happy that he got his first touchdown, even if it might’ve been mine. He came out of nowhere and grabbed it. I don’t think it will happen again. We lucked out. It could’ve been disastrous. When you run into the same area like that, it means there’s more defenders over there. But it worked out today, and I’ll take it.”

[boltaneer]

The Chargers season was over in the off season.

You've been Turnered.

IMO it's premature to say that but anyway the point is that I don't go around starting threads pimping a quarterback who everyone in their right mind knew wasn't capable of starting.

That is the beauty of this thread and why I get a laugh every time it gets bumped back to the top.

[sixtimeseight]

Apparently you don't watch football. LJ had a 4.3 YPC ave in week 1. He only got 10 carries. I guess since LJ and LT have low rushing totals they both suck huh?

I wouldn't say LJ sucks, just that he's the most overrated player in the league not named Vince Young and an above-average running back at best. Lots of running backs in this league could get 1500 yards at 3.5 YPA by running the ball 450 times.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Man, look at this. Talent just oozes out of this kid. What a fabulous rocket he throws here off his back foot. On target, too.

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/1435/webb34yardreceptionfromon3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[theAPAOps5]

Yeah and McNown hit a deep pass too. Sun shines on a dogs ass every now and then. Especially when Bob pulls out.

[Florida_Bronco]

So much talent that he would have probably gone undrafted had Herm Average not picked him up.

[KCStud]

I love it how Bronco homers are quick to point out Brodie's struggles in preseason, but yet if he looks good in the regular season, especially against a good defense in crunch time, they think it is luck.

BTW-Nice pick 6 Cutler. When you play a real team you won't be able to hide behind your RB's success and last second FG's.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

So much talent that he would have probably gone undrafted had Herm Average not picked him up.

He would have been drafted shortly after the Chiefs picked in the third if KC had not grabbed him. At worst in the following round.

[Kaylore]

I love it how Bronco homers are quick to point out Brodie's struggles in preseason, but yet if he looks good in the regular season, especially against a good defense in crunch time, they think it is luck.

BTW-Nice pick 6 Cutler. When you play a real team you won't be able to hide behind your RB's success and last second FG's.

The Raiders have a good defense and Cutler lit them up and won the game in the fourth quarter. What did your sorry team do? Yeah, they lost.

[BlaK-Argentina]

BTW-Nice pick 6 Cutler. When you play a real team you won't be able to hide behind your RB's success and last second FG's.

Did you even see the pick six? The ball was tipped at the line.
And the running game was very inconsistent yesterday. In the last quarter and OT we had to rely on Jay making plays because Henry was getting stopped a yard beyond the LOS on almost every play.
Watch the games, bud.

Oh and by the way, if the Raiders aren't a "real" team, I don't know what the Chefs are, cause Oakland will probably kick their asses. Enjoy being the worst team in the AFC West. (and one of the worst in the league ^5 )

[KCStud]

The Raiders have a good defense and Cutler lit them up and won the game in the fourth quarter. What did your sorry team do? Yeah, they lost.

Um no they don't have a good defense

28th in overall YPG(417)
26th in rush YPG(145)
28th in yard per game(272)
28th in points per game(30)

you call that a good defense?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Um no they don't have a good defense

28th in overall YPG(417)
26th in rush YPG(145)
28th in yard per game(272)
28th in points per game(30)

you call that a good defense?

You have to excuse the Donk fans...they are used to seeing their run defense get raped.

[Mediator12]

You have to excuse the Donk fans...they are used to seeing their run defense get raped.

Funny, since KC has not been ahead of DEN's run defense in like forever ;D I guess KC fans must have listened to Bobby Knight and enjoy it :thumbs:

[KCStud]

LMAO once again gaylore shows his true football knowledge and proves he doesn't know jack about any team outside of Denver:rofl:

[24champ]

It's people like KCSheepstud that keep their organization in the dumpster. Haven't won a meaningful game since 92-93. Ha!

[sixtimeseight]

I love it how Bronco homers are quick to point out Brodie's struggles in preseason, but yet if he looks good in the regular season, especially against a good defense in crunch time, they think it is luck.

BTW-Nice pick 6 Cutler. When you play a real team you won't be able to hide behind your RB's success and last second FG's.

0-2. Go away fat troll.

[Atwater His Ass]

How many regular season games has Croyle started?

[Orange_Beard]

Chiefs ready for QB change? (http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/21599)

Posted: Monday September 17, 2007 10:36AM ET

The Chiefs (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/12) have lost faith in Damon Huard (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/458). There's no doubt about that. The reason Herm Edwards went with Huard to start the season is because he's a veteran guy, he's been there before, he played well much of last year, he supposedly has that mystical ability to, as coaches say, "manage the game." Edwards had wanted to go with Brodie Croyle (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/2868), but the guy looked dazed and confused all during the preseason. Edwards felt like he had no choice. Croyle was given a chance to win the job. He did not win it. Edwards figured that Huard had been through a few football wars.

[24champ]

Chiefs ready for QB change? (http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/21599)

Posted: Monday September 17, 2007 10:36AM ET

The Chiefs (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/12) have lost faith in Damon Huard (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/458). There's no doubt about that. The reason Herm Edwards went with Huard to start the season is because he's a veteran guy, he's been there before, he played well much of last year, he supposedly has that mystical ability to, as coaches say, "manage the game." Edwards had wanted to go with Brodie Croyle (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/2868), but the guy looked dazed and confused all during the preseason. Edwards felt like he had no choice. Croyle was given a chance to win the job. He did not win it. Edwards figured that Huard had been through a few football wars.


but...but...but...Huard had a 98.0 QB rating last year, easily the best QB in the AFC! Plus the O-line is much improved this year!!!!:giggle:


http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/97/fullj.getty-75557850cc037_kansas_city_c.jpg

or maybe not...

[sixtimeseight]

but... but.... I thought Huard was the second-best QB in the league, based on his 7 starts last year?!?!?! That's what fat-Bobo told me anyways!

[Atwater His Ass]

I hope they start Croyle. Throwing in the towel after week 2. Gotta love it.

[theAPAOps5]

Oh God please start the Punter Brodie Croyle. Bly and Champ are almost guranteed 4 picks from that sack of bob.

[broncosteven]

Man, look at this. Talent just oozes out of this kid. What a fabulous rocket he throws here off his back foot. On target, too.

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/1435/webb34yardreceptionfromon3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Wasn't that rocket (atlas missle) only in the air 35-40 yards? Post one that is 60+ in the air like last year when Cutler hit Javon with a real rocket (Saturn V) vs the Cards.

[Paladin]

He did that once. Even blind squirrels find a nut now and again......

[broncosteven]

He did that once. Even blind squirrels find a nut now and again......

I cannot believe Herm had a fly in his playbook. I thought they only ran the 5 yard slant and a the out pass to the HB in the flat.

[elsid13]

I cannot believe Herm had a fly in his playbook. I thought they only ran the 5 yard slant and a the out pass to the HB in the flat.

That the hail Mary. Which Sperm goes to at half time the days.

[DBroncos4life]

The Chargers season was over in the off season.

You've been Turnered.

I could be wrong but at least they didn't trade a 4th round pick to find a coach to make their team worse then it was before. ROFL!

[KCStud]

I could be wrong but at least they didn't trade a 4th round pick to find a coach to make their team worse then it was before. ROFL!

old age killed this team, not Herm. The defense is much better. the offense needs retooling. if DV was still the coach, KC would have a horrible defense and an average at best offense that needed rebuilding anyway

[Inkana7]

old age killed this team, not Herm. The defense is much better. the offense needs retooling. if DV was still the coach, KC would have a horrible defense and an average at best offense that needed rebuilding anyway

Oh, but with Herm you have a horrible offense and an average at best defense. Gotcha.

[KCStud]

Oh, but with Herm you have a horrible offense and an average at best defense. Gotcha.

try again. KC is ranked 7th in the league on defense moron and has given up 13 PPG. KC isn't giving up an average of 150 rushing yards a game

[theAPAOps5]

KCDud continuing to make himself look like the moron whipping boy of the omane. His team is ranked 7th after week 2 and he is talking smack. Its week two mental midget don't get too excited. But since you are 0-2 and looking at a 4-12 season I guess I can see where you have to puff your chest over the little things.

[Bronx33]

KCDud continuing to make himself look like the moron whipping boy of the omane. His team is ranked 7th after week 2 and he is talking smack. Its week two mental midget don't get too excited. But since you are 0-2 and looking at a 4-12 season I guess I can see where you have to puff your chest over the little things.


What did you expect from the self proclaimed KCstud..

[Merlin]

try again. KC is ranked 7th in the league on defense moron and has given up 13 PPG. KC isn't giving up an average of 150 rushing yards a game
KC has only played 2 games and one of those was against a team with a pathetic offence (not to mention your other game was against MS in his first game as a Texan, so the team's offence was not yet running on all cylinders), and yet you feel like your team has reason to beat its chest. Your smack is 6rap, your team is a joke, and you think you have reason to be proud..What a pitiful existence to be a KC fan

[DBroncos4life]

try again. KC is ranked 7th in the league on defense moron and has given up 13 PPG. KC isn't giving up an average of 150 rushing yards a game

Teams can't really drop back and pass against us now can they.

[Fedaykin]

Man, look at this. Talent just oozes out of this kid. What a fabulous rocket he throws here off his back foot. On target, too.


When the receiver falls on his face from stretching to catch the ball, I wouldn't call that "on target". Also.. looked to be about 40 yards max.. *yawn*

[broncosteven]

old age killed this team, not Herm. The defense is much better. the offense needs retooling. if DV was still the coach, KC would have a horrible defense and an average at best offense that needed rebuilding anyway

Wrong KFCTurd, If Vermin-eel was still coaching GOONTHER would still be the DC and you would still have a decent D.

Wait until they play teams who's QB does not throw Pic's on Screen plays and once the cheef O goes 15 and 25 series with out a 1st down those totals will fall real fast.

Then you will back to tuning camero's carb's on sundays for beer $ instead of watching Football.

[TheChamp24]

I will say KC has a decent defense, but the offense is horrible.
And I still find it funny some Chief fans think this team is a 9-10 win team and capable of making the playoffs.

[broncosteven]

I will say KC has a decent defense, but the offense is horrible.
And I still find it funny some Chief fans think this team is a 9-10 win team and capable of making the playoffs.

I would say any team that faces REXMAN and the next Curtis Enis is bound to have their stats padded.

[TheChamp24]

I would say any team that faces REXMAN and the next Curtis Enis is bound to have their stats padded.

Touche' my good man.
I really did think Cedric Benson would be doing better than he is though, although he did put up a solid game against the Chefs. I do know Bear fans are upset with Rexy and Benson...

Could be worse though, could be the Chiefs scenario.

[redrage]

I would say any team that faces REXMAN and the next Curtis Enis is bound to have their stats padded.

Be that as it may, KC's defense stood toe-to-toe with the Bears' defense. The difference in the game was Hester.

[theAPAOps5]

Be that as it may, KC's defense stood toe-to-toe with the Bears' defense. The difference in the game was Hester.

:spit:

[broncosteven]

Be that as it may, KC's defense stood toe-to-toe with the Bears' defense. The difference in the game was Hester.

I guess it was a fair matchup as NEITHER team fielded an NFL caliber QB.

REXMAN nearly gave that one away. Who throws a sideline pass on 3rd down that ends up incomplete anyway when trying to run out the clock. I am running around pointing out how the screen works to Duh Bear fans here at work.

Everyone knows that the cheefs have no talents throwing slants and HB flat passes at the QB pos.

In other words Duh Bears are overrated.

[redrage]

I guess it was a fair matchup as NEITHER team fielded an NFL caliber QB.

REXMAN nearly gave that one away. Who throws a sideline pass on 3rd down that ends up incomplete anyway when trying to run out the clock. I am running around pointing out how the screen works to Duh Bear fans here at work.

Everyone knows that the cheefs have no talents throwing slants and HB flat passes at the QB pos.

In other words Duh Bears are overrated.

So there IS an NFL offense worse than KC's? OK, I just wanted to make sure that's what you meant.

[broncosteven]

So there IS an NFL offense worse than KC's? OK, I just wanted to make sure that's what you meant.

I wouldn't say worse, Even Curtis Enis 2.0 gained more yards than Diaper boy who held out to stay fresh for the regular season.

[redrage]

I wouldn't say worse, Even Curtis Enis 2.0 gained more yards than Diaper boy who held out to stay fresh for the regular season.

Benson had the advantage of being ahead most of the game. of course he's going to get more attempts. Hester scored a TD and set up another FG with a long punt return. There must be some reason why KC gained more yards and forced more turnovers than the Bears.

The difference in that game was special teams. The Bears have a great one and KC doesn't. Other than that, the two teams are pretty similar.

[Kaylore]

Your coaches should be fired for even kicking it anywhere near Hester.

[redrage]

Your coaches should be fired for even kicking it anywhere near Hester.

Yep.

[boltaneer]

Your coaches should be fired for even kicking it anywhere near Hester.
Yep.

Herm must be taking advice from Bob. ;D

We have a Pro-Bowl caliber punter. We're not going to shy away from kicking it to anyone.

[Bronx33]

Herm must be taking advice from Bob. ;D


If that were so they would all be drinking Hawaiian punch and eating powdered donuts during the game.

[TheChamp24]

Benson had the advantage of being ahead most of the game. of course he's going to get more attempts. Hester scored a TD and set up another FG with a long punt return. There must be some reason why KC gained more yards and forced more turnovers than the Bears.

The difference in that game was special teams. The Bears have a great one and KC doesn't. Other than that, the two teams are pretty similar.

You gotta be ****tin me...
The Bears will beat the Chiefs 9 times out of 10.

[broncosteven]

You gotta be ****tin me...
The Bears will beat the Chiefs 9 times out of 10.

I can hear it next week after they lose to Minn.

"Well they don't have a QB and we don't but they have a good young RB and we have a 400+ carry guy that is just around collecting a check this year, our D's are simular. Minn turned the ball over 4 times and we still lost. Our team is really better than Minn but we lost. Not because we went 25 plays with out a 1st down but because they had better starting field position."

LOL

[redrage]

I can hear it next week after they lose to Minn.

"Well they don't have a QB and we don't but they have a good young RB and we have a 400+ carry guy that is just around collecting a check this year, our D's are simular. Minn turned the ball over 4 times and we still lost. Our team is really better than Minn but we lost. Not because we went 25 plays with out a 1st down but because they had better starting field position."

LOL

You act as though I'm making excuses. I've made no excuses for this team. This is the second straight year they've come out of the gates flat offensively and that falls directly on Herm. I don't know what the hell the purpose of training camp is, but it should be about getting the team ready to play football and NOT evaluating players. All that has taken place prior to camp. Sure players can get noticed and make the team, but week one, they's looked crappy, no doubt.

I stand by what I wrote, that only thing I see different from this Bears team and KC is the special teams. Their's is awesome, KC's sucks. Both offenses are unimaginative and turnover prone and the defenses are making plays. Chicago looks more aggressive in their scheme, so the casual fan will think it is more effective, but it forced less turnovers, gave up more yards and yielded the same number of points (10). You all were too busy watching the Broncos so I think you are basing your opinion on what you saw last year from the Bears rather than how they played in that game.

[TheChamp24]

You act as though I'm making excuses. I've made no excuses for this team. This is the second straight year they've come out of the gates flat offensively and that falls directly on Herm. I don't know what the hell the purpose of training camp is, but it should be about getting the team ready to play football and NOT evaluating players. All that has taken place prior to camp. Sure players can get noticed and make the team, but week one, they's looked crappy, no doubt.

I stand by what I wrote, that only thing I see different from this Bears team and KC is the special teams. Their's is awesome, KC's sucks. Both offenses are unimaginative and turnover prone and the defenses are making plays. Chicago looks more aggressive in their scheme, so the casual fan will think it is more effective, but it forced less turnovers, gave up more yards and yielded the same number of points (10). You all were too busy watching the Broncos so I think you are basing your opinion on what you saw last year from the Bears rather than how they played in that game.

Well, this is the same Bears team that allowed one of the best offenses last year, San Diego, to 14 points. I'd take Chicago's defense over KC's defense everyday, heck, I'd like for you to find 1 knowledgeable person who would take KC's defense over Chicago's.
Chicago has better DL, LB's and maybe CB's. Safeties might be similar since Mike Brown went down with an injury.
Chicago on offense I'd say has a better OL and WR's. The only thing KC has is RB and TE. QB I'd say is equal because Sexy Rexy gets turnover prone.
No way is KC as good as Chicago.

[redrage]

Well, this is the same Bears team that allowed one of the best offenses last year, San Diego, to 14 points. I'd take Chicago's defense over KC's defense everyday, heck, I'd like for you to find 1 knowledgeable person who would take KC's defense over Chicago's.
Chicago has better DL, LB's and maybe CB's. Safeties might be similar since Mike Brown went down with an injury.
Chicago on offense I'd say has a better OL and WR's. The only thing KC has is RB and TE. QB I'd say is equal because Sexy Rexy gets turnover prone.
No way is KC as good as Chicago.


I don't have to find one person to validate my opinion because it has its base in facts. Did you happen to watch the game at all?

[theAPAOps5]

Man KC Fan is delusional.

[Paladin]

Do you think Gonzo is as good as he was in the past? I really don't know since I don't waste my time watching the mullets flail away on the field.....

[boltaneer]

No one in their right mind would take the Chiefs defense over the Bears.

And actually, as bad as Chicago's offense is at times, I think most people would go for their offense over KC's.

The main thing about Grossman is his inconsistency. He can have a three INT game but turn around the next week and light up the opposing defense and throw three TDs. It's hit or miss with the guy but he has the potential. But their defense and special teams are so good, they can carry the team when their offense struggles. With Herm's offense, you know you're in for a bland and predictable day, game in and game out, particularly because their offense is the definition of non-explosive. It's the only way their team has a chance at winning games.

Also, this is Hester's first year playing at WR so he's got a lot to learn. Once he gets comfortable, he will be a dangerous weapon for them on that side of the ball.

[SoCalBronco]

No one in their right mind would take the Chiefs defense over the Bears.

And actually, as bad as Chicago's offense is at times, I think most people would go for their offense over KC's.

The main thing about Grossman is his inconsistency. He can have a three INT game but turn around the next week and light up the opposing defense and throw three TDs. It's hit or miss with the guy but he has the potential. But their defense and special teams are so good, they can carry the team when their offense struggles. With Herm's offense, you know you're in for a bland and predictable day, game in and game out, particularly because their offense is the definition of non-explosive. It's the only way their team has a chance at winning games.

Also, this is Hester's first year playing at WR so he's got a lot to learn. Once he gets comfortable, he will be a dangerous weapon for them on that side of the ball.


Actually thats not quite correct. Devin has experience playing the WR position, but adapted very slowly to it at Miami, so he was switched to cornerback (where he also struggled). It won't be completely new to him, but since he struggled to adapt to a fairly traditional and unsophisticated offense such as the one Miami ran from 1995-2006, I think it will be even tougher in a pro offense. The best thing for Devin is to create for him a very manageable small package of plays that feature him. Many of these can include specials, such as reverses, jailbreak screens to get him open in space, and a couple all purpose pass routes that should be able to get him the ball no matter the coverage. That's alot better use of him than to fully integrate him into the offense to try to make him a full blown WR. Miami figured this out by 2004, and created such a package for him, even though he had been moved back to the defense by that point. One thing I remember was that they actually lined him up in the backfield at times and used him on tosses and sweeps with the idea that with his speed and a good downblock by the TE on the endman on the LOS, he could beat the D to the corner.

[boltaneer]

Actually thats not quite correct. Devin has experience playing the WR position, but adapted very slowly to it at Miami, so he was switched to cornerback (where he also struggled). It won't be completely new to him, but since he struggled to adapt to a fairly traditional and unsophisticated offense such as the one Miami ran from 1995-2006, I think it will be even tougher in a pro offense. The best thing for Devin is to create for him a very manageable small package of plays that feature him. Many of these can include specials, such as reverses, jailbreak screens to get him open in space, and a couple all purpose pass routes that should be able to get him the ball no matter the coverage. That's alot better use of him than to fully integrate him into the offense to try to make him a full blown WR. Miami figured this out by 2004, and created such a package for him, even though he had been moved back to the defense by that point. One thing I remember was that they actually lined him up in the backfield at times and used him on tosses and sweeps with the idea that with his speed and a good downblock by the TE on the endman on the LOS, he could beat the D to the corner.

Right, I was referring to it being his first year playing WR in the NFL.

I agree with the points about designing plays for him. He could actually make Chicago's offense fun to watch.

[broncocalijohn]

Man KC Fan is delusional.
they have been for over 35 years. Thier secret weapon and draft pick holds a clip board with finesse. Our pick is out on the field taking down the first two games of the year. Is that good enough to get the thread back to
where it needs to be?

[redrage]

The difference in that game was Devin Hester. PERIOD. He was the difference in that team finishing 13-3 and not 9-7 last season. A return man like tht can mask a LOT of what's wrong with your team. Dante Hall anyone?

All of you can say you'd take the Chicago defense and offense hands down over KC's. Fine. But in that game, the only difference between those two teams was Hester. The dude got robbed out of Rookie of the Year last season and doesn't seem to have been a fluke at all.

[TheReverend]

The difference in that game was Devin Hester. PERIOD. He was the difference in that team finishing 13-3 and not 9-7 last season. A return man like tht can mask a LOT of what's wrong with your team. Dante Hall anyone?

All of you can say you'd take the Chicago defense and offense hands down over KC's. Fine. But in that game, the only difference between those two teams was Hester. The dude got robbed out of Rookie of the Year last season and doesn't seem to have been a fluke at all.

You're off topic. Refer to thread title made by another KC fan, then cry yourself to sleep.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Skills, folks. Mother****in' skills.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1680/brodiede7.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[24champ]

Wow TD in garbage time...congrats.

[Maximus]

Skills, folks. Mother****in' skills.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1680/brodiede7.gif (http://imageshack.us)

You have to be one of the most pitiful fans ever... bottom line is your team got blanked at home until the last 2 seconds of the game and you posted that lame ass file... Somebody ban his ass!

[Maximus]

Look at that empty stadium... even the donks had more fans while taking a worse whippin

[Spider]

Look at that empty stadium... even the donks had more fans while taking a worse whippin

I asked you this on another thread , I really need ot know the answer , I brought up how Shanny owns you Idiots , you brought up the over all record , tell me what Does Reeves, Miller , Phillips record vs the Raiders have ot do with Shanny making the Raiders his personal Bitch ?

[chadta]

Look at that empty stadium... even the donks had more fans while taking a worse whippin


the stadium in KC was like that at the start of the game tho so the fact that its garbage time dosent matter.

[24champ]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20071111/capt.5dda0d8401c8419fb155e98ac85f948e.broncos_chie fs_football_mocr111.jpg


Winner: Jay Cutler


8')

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20071111/capt.5dda0d8401c8419fb155e98ac85f948e.broncos_chie fs_football_mocr111.jpg


Winner: Jay Cutler


8')

Thanks for pulling up this thread again!!!

[Bronco LB 59]

Duh! It's the 2005 SEC Offensive Player of the Year. Croyle will always be Cutler's bitch.

[Orange_Beard]

I miss Bob. These threads ALWAYS MAKE ME LAUGH!

[SoCalBronco]

If that were so they would all be drinking Hawaiian punch and eating powdered donuts during the game.

This one always gives me a laugh whenever this thread gets bumped. Good stuff, Bronx.

[Finger Roll]

anybody know Jay Culters QB rating now and Croyle

[Broncobiv]

anybody know Jay Culters QB rating now and Croyle
Cutler: 85.4
Croyle: 76.6

[TheDave]

41-7

Advantage: Cutler


Lock the thread :thumbs:

[-Slap-]

Cutler: 85.4
Croyle: 76.6

The actual distance between them is measured in light years.

[The MVPlaya]

anybody know Jay Culters QB rating now and Croyle

After today's game

Jay Cutler: 90.3

Brodie Croyle: 73.0

[SouthStndJunkie]

Look at those skinny pipes. I am surprised he can cold his head up in the picture with that noodle.

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[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

Look at those skinny pipes. I am surprised he can cold his head up in the picture with that noodle.

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I'm going to have hugh guns by pumping iron. Starting with my head.

[Needa Pass Rush]

Obviously, Bob has either left or shown the door at the mane. Who can give me the nickle download? Was it bloody? Ha!

[SoCalBronco]

After today's game

Jay Cutler: 90.3

Brodie Croyle: 73.0

Winner: Jay Cutler

[Los Broncos]

He has nothing on Cutler, hows that taste Bob?

Hahahahaha :rofl:

[lex]

The difference in that game was Devin Hester. PERIOD. He was the difference in that team finishing 13-3 and not 9-7 last season. A return man like tht can mask a LOT of what's wrong with your team. Dante Hall anyone?

All of you can say you'd take the Chicago defense and offense hands down over KC's. Fine. But in that game, the only difference between those two teams was Hester. The dude got robbed out of Rookie of the Year last season and doesn't seem to have been a fluke at all.

Thats simply not true. Even after Hesters returns Denver still went up by two touchdowns.

Grossman has actually been far more judicious since re-entering the lineup. Take the NYG game for example. Troy Aikman made a couple of comments about how Grossman shouldnt try to escape the pocket the way he was. What Aikman neglected to mention was that before being benched he probably would be still throwing it up and youre not even talking about his technique for spinning out of the pocket.

[alkemical]

Look at those skinny pipes. I am surprised he can cold his head up in the picture with that noodle.

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Jared Allen told me i'd be in deliverance if we lost.

[ZachKC]

I don't have a problem praising Cutler. Not as interested in the vs. part but I am still surprised Brody gets so much **** with the mess he has around him and his newness as a QB.

First three starts for all of these QBs.

Peyton Manning
62/114 - 54%
683 yards
2 TD's/8 INT's
7 Sacks
0-3 record

John Elway
28/62 - 45%
313 yards
1 TD/3 INT's
10 Sacks
2-1 record

Tom Brady
58/101 - 57%
618 yards
2 TD's/0 INT's
8 Sacks
2-1 record

Brodie Croyle
46/79 - 58%
446 yards
2 TD's/2 INT's
10 Sacks
0-3 record

[2KBack]

I don't have a problem praising Cutler. Not as interested in the vs. part but I am still surprised Brody gets so much **** with the mess he has around him and his newness as a QB.

First three starts for all of these QBs.

It has little to do with Croyle and everything to do with Bob. Which is a little sad, but part of the culture here.

[ZachKC]

It has little to do with Croyle and everything to do with Bob. Which is a little sad, but part of the culture here.

Agreed.

[KCStud]

Croyle has played well for a QB with a bad OL and only 1 good WR. He's not turning the ball over as much anymore.
Cutler would have similar if not worse stats then Brodie behind KC's OL. Brodie has been sacked 10 times in 3 games. Says a lot especially when your QB is mobile

[Sassy]

Obviously, Bob has either left or shown the door at the mane. Who can give me the nickle download? Was it bloody? Ha!
I think it was after the Detroit game...he started a smartass thread and was shown the door by TJ.

[Jetmeck]

I think it was after the Detroit game...he started a smartass thread and was shown the door by TJ.


Please elaborate ? I though TJ would basically let that little bet welching POS get away with anything short of nuking the mane ? Please tell ?

[Northman]

Croyle has played well for a QB with a bad OL and only 1 good WR. He's not turning the ball over as much anymore.
Cutler would have similar if not worse stats then Brodie behind KC's OL. Brodie has been sacked 10 times in 3 games. Says a lot especially when your QB is mobile


Interesting. Early in the season all we heard was how great the Oline was and how great the receiving core is. And yet ironically enough, when Jay struggled last year you guys had no problem bashing the kid even though he had only started a couple of games. And now you want sympathy for Brodie's struggles? Please.

[sixtimeseight]

Croyle has played well for a QB with a bad OL and only 1 good WR. He's not turning the ball over as much anymore.
Cutler would have similar if not worse stats then Brodie behind KC's OL. Brodie has been sacked 10 times in 3 games. Says a lot especially when your QB is mobile

hahah, no. Stop pretending that Croyle isn't garbage. He and Rivers are two of the five worst starting QBs in the entire league.

[azbroncfan]

I don't have a problem praising Cutler. Not as interested in the vs. part but I am still surprised Brody gets so much **** with the mess he has around him and his newness as a QB.

First three starts for all of these QBs.

Like that means anything. Wait til other teams have enough game tape on him. You didn't mention he missed a game to injury. He has looked decent but do you honestly think he can ever last 16 games with his health history and that skinny build.

[Broncobiv]

Please elaborate ? I though TJ would basically let that little bet welching POS get away with anything short of nuking the mane ? Please tell ?
http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=62486
TJ comes in at post #7.

[rovolution]

Croyle has played well for a QB with a bad OL and only 1 good WR. He's not turning the ball over as much anymore.
Cutler would have similar if not worse stats then Brodie behind KC's OL. Brodie has been sacked 10 times in 3 games. Says a lot especially when your QB is mobile

Doubt it..

Your forgetting the fact that Cutler played at Vanderbuilt. He ran for his life on every single play and was still 2005 SEC Offensive Player of the Year....

[bfoflcommish]

hey it's actually closer than you would think

croyle 57.9 % 746 yds 3td 3int

cutler 74.1 % 244 yds 4td's 0 int's


oh wait thats croyles season vs cutlers last game



never mind

[elsid13]

Last time I looked Cutler had 4 new faces on his oline this season, and yet still has been extremely competitive.

[crazyhorse]

Doubt it..

Your forgetting the fact that Cutler played at Vanderbuilt. He ran for his life on every single play and was still 2005 SEC Offensive Player of the Year....

But he lost a lot of games....right?

[Kaylore]

Croyle is a different player than he was in preseason. And I do agree that some of his troubles are on the O-line. That said, he's not very accurate on throws beyond 15 yards. This could be because the Herm Offense doesn't practice plays like that very much, but I suspect it's also inexperience. Also he doesn't have that sixth sense that some QB's have for avoiding the rush. Some (not most) of those sacks are all on him.

Overall I'd say with a decent offensive line and one more receiving threat he could be an pretty good NFL QB which is not what I thought seeing him bumbling around in preseason. Having said that, with this coaching staff and this offensive line, I would have serious concerns that his development will get squashed. We'll have to see but the guy needs to bulk up or he's going to get ripped apart.

As for his comparative ability to Cutler It is pretty clear to everyone that Cutler is the superior player and will only continue to outshine Croyle. We've got a bunch of problems on the offensive line too and our receivers are dinged up. Sure, it's not the Chief's debacle of an offense, but it's not like Cutler's been playing behind Minnesota's offensive line and throwing to New England's receiving corps.

Cutler is steadily elevating himself into that "elite" status whereas I don't think Croyle will be more than "good jake Plummer" and with that coaching staff and offensive philosophy he'll be lucky to look like Trent Dilfer.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

[QUOTE=Kaylore;1813250] We'll have to see but the guy needs to bulk up or he's going to get ripped apart.

QUOTE]

Bingo - the problem is he has been trying to bulk up for at least 5 years without success. He is betrayed by his metabolism.

[Pendejo]

hey it's actually closer than you would think

croyle 57.9 % 746 yds 3td 3int

cutler 74.1 % 244 yds 4td's 0 int's


oh wait thats croyles season vs cutlers last game



never mind

Hah! I see what you did there.

[KCStud]

hahah, no. Stop pretending that Croyle isn't garbage. He and Rivers are two of the five worst starting QBs in the entire league.

Croyle also has the least amount of NFL experience than any starting QB in the league

[alkemical]

[QUOTE=Kaylore;1813250] We'll have to see but the guy needs to bulk up or he's going to get ripped apart.

QUOTE]

Bingo - the problem is he has been trying to bulk up for at least 5 years without success. He is betrayed by his metabolism.

Yeah, me too!

[DukeWoody]

[QUOTE=Kaylore;1813250] We'll have to see but the guy needs to bulk up or he's going to get ripped apart.

QUOTE]

Bingo - the problem is he has been trying to bulk up for at least 5 years without success. He is betrayed by his metabolism.


You're absolutely correct, Croyle is an ectomorph and will always be lean and fragile...no matter how hard he tries to bulk up..

[theAPAOps5]

Croyle also has the least amount of NFL experience than any starting QB in the league

Well KCDud if you aren't good enough to get on the field over Huard than that says something. He makes some good throws. He also doesn't, and boy he does not feel that back side rush. I feared for his life with his little punter body yesterday.

[KCStud]

[QUOTE=Billy Clyde Puckett;1813281]


You're absolutely correct, Croyle is an ectomorph and will always be lean and fragile...no matter how hard he tries to bulk up..

That doesn't mean he can't be a good QB. Look at Drew Brees. Brodie is 2 inches taller than Brees and basically the same weight. On Hard Knocks, Brodie was weighed in at 211 lbs.
I'd like to see him put on about 10 lbs

[KCStud]

Well KCDud if you aren't good enough to get on the field over Huard than that says something. He makes some good throws. He also doesn't, and boy he does not feel that back side rush. I feared for his life with his little punter body yesterday.

Brodie is way better than Huard and it has been evident ever since Croyle took the field. Herm didn't feel that Brodie was ready yet. Unlike Cutler, Brodie was in a different situation. Cutler competed against a horrible QB that made horrible throws and decisions. Croyle competed against a QB that coming into the season had 11 TD's, 1 INT, and the 2nd best passer rating in the league.

And the same can be said for Cutler. I've seen some good throws from him and a some that just hang in the air that were picked off.
Croyle has done everything possible to try to avoid the rush. His only targets yesterday that were reliable were Gonzo and Bowe and Gonzo got hurt.
Croyle does have Bowe and he has helped a lot, but then who else is their besides Gonzo? Parker, Webb, Kennison, and Wilson drop passes all the freaking time. Add in the fact that his OL gives him 2 seconds to throw the ball and you have a recipe for disaster...

[TheDave]

Croyle also has the least amount of NFL experience than any starting QB in the league

There is a reason for that...

[rovolution]

Croyle also has the least amount of NFL experience than any starting QB in the league

Trent Edwards and his 4 TD passes against the Dolphins this past weekend disagree with you.

[KCStud]

Cutler is steadily elevating himself into that "elite" status whereas I don't think Croyle will be more than "good jake Plummer" and with that coaching staff and offensive philosophy he'll be lucky to look like Trent Dilfer.

Croyle is already better than Plummer. Plummer had more INT's than TD's last year where Croyle is dead even. Croyle also has 73.1 QB rating a compared to Plummers 68.8 and Croyle is just starting his career.

[KCStud]

Trent Edwards and his 4 TD passes against the Dolphins this past weekend disagree with you.

Edwards has played more regular season games than Croyle. Edwards is a good QB though

[Finger Roll]

with proper coaching and an Online Croyle could be good. It's really hard to grade his performence because that oline is one of the worst I've ever seen.

[DenverBrit]

Croyle is already better than Plummer. Plummer had more INT's than TD's last year where Croyle is dead even. Croyle also has 73.1 QB rating a compared to Plummers 68.8 and Croyle is just starting his career.

You're reaching way beyond your IQ.....which appears to be lower than Plummer's QB rating.

[KCStud]

You're reaching way beyond your IQ.....which appears to be lower than Plummer's QB rating.

Quit defending him you Plummer apologist

[Kaylore]

Croyle is already better than Plummer. Plummer had more INT's than TD's last year where Croyle is dead even. Croyle also has 73.1 QB rating a compared to Plummers 68.8 and Croyle is just starting his career.

That was crappy Plummer and way to Cherry Pick his worst season here. I clearly wrote "good Plummer" which would suggest the game manager that was occasionally capable of some big plays. Right now Croyle isn't that. He is more on par with last year's Plummer except that Plummer was ten times better at evading a rush than Croyle. Right now Croyle looks like he might be deaf in one ear the way he just stands there motionless totally unawares as defensive ends stomp in and pulverize his princess-like frame.

Edwards has played more regular season games than Croyle. Edwards is a good QB though
KCSheepstud, you have this hilarious way of making yourself look totally foolish. Edwards is a rookie this year. He played very well in preseason and is showing the normal progression of an NFL QB. This is Croyle's second year in the league where he failed to unseat a backup QB during preseason in one of the crappiest QB units in the league. Croyle should be light years ahead of Edwards and others with such a simplistic offense and two years to learn. He's not.

Edwards > Croyle

[Bronx33]

Croyle is already better than Plummer. Plummer had more INT's than TD's last year where Croyle is dead even. Croyle also has 73.1 QB rating a compared to Plummers 68.8 and Croyle is just starting his career.


Croyle don't have an 1/8 of the play selection to deal with plummer had ( iam not defending plummer either) but like chris said you cherry pick stats and are completely clueless about what those two QBs had on their plates but equate them as even.

[SportinOne]

Plummer had a couple of really good years in Denver.

He can throw on the run exceptionally well and he was probably the BEST at throwing while running to the left. He was a one-trick pony, though. If he was standing still he was useless.

Then you have Cutler who can throw on the run almost as well and can stand tall in the pocket and deliver any pass on the field GOD HE IS AWESOME!!!!

[DenverBrit]

Quit defending him you Plummer apologist

Hardly! I insulted him by comparing his QB rating with your IQ. Hilarious!

[Los Broncos]

Hardly! I insulted him by comparing his QB rating with your IQ. Hilarious!

Ouch

[FantomForce]

You guys are missing the point, this is not the Plummer vs. Croyle thread.

[Beantown Bronco]

Croyle also has the least amount of NFL experience than any starting QB in the league

Stud must be counting the practices leading up to the games in whatever figure he is using to determine "NFL experience". After all, Croyle IS the only QB in the league that practices against high school, and not NFL, talent.

[BlaK-Argentina]

You guys are missing the point, this is not the Plummer vs. Croyle thread.

Well, it's hard to compare Jay to Croyle, so they have no chance but to compare him to someone else.

Gotta say, at least Croyle is not a whiny ass biatch like Rivers. I'll give him that.

[no-pseudo-fan]

What kind of question is this? Croyle is an ok QB, he will be a 2nd-tier QB at best. At worst, the Chiefs line/coaches are going to turn him into David Carr.

Cutler is the best QB to come into the league in the best 3 years, probably even longer, he will be the best QB in the league at best. At worst, a second tier QB.

Cutler has more upside than Croyle, more talent around him, more nerve in the pocket, and can make every throw better than Croyle can. So where is the discussion?

[orange 4 life]

28 pages?

was this thread serious or just a bad joke?

either way, there isnt any comparison to make (at this point) and there isnt any reason for 28 pages. wow.

[no-pseudo-fan]

What kind of question is this? Croyle is an ok QB, he will be a 2nd-tier QB at best. At worst, the Chiefs line/coaches are going to turn him into David Carr.

Cutler is the best QB to come into the league in the best 3 years, probably even longer, he will be the best QB in the league at best. At worst, a second tier QB.

Cutler has more upside than Croyle, more talent around him, more nerve in the pocket, and can make every throw better than Croyle can. So where is the discussion?

[orange 4 life]

all i'll say on croyles behalf is with that God awful team no one KNOWS what croyle can do, and thats not his fault.
that said, it doesnt change the fact that cutler has over 16 games of experience, a growing rapport with his team, and a nice long highlight reel of impressive plays...

...and croyle has a lowlight reel of getting sacked. comparison over.

[DukeWoody]

I didn't want to start a new thread for this but i thought it was worth shoving into this one because it's pathetic enough and needs to be ridiculed..

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=176442

Man boobs everlasting suck fest of Brodie Frayle has dwindled down to nothing more then threads of " how impressive Brodies incompletions look "...

Poor, poor mullets....Things are and will continue to be tough in mulletville for many years to come...Lets hope king Carl rules for another 30 years..:~ohyah!:

[ZachKC]

Just an example of how Brodie can't block and catch the ball...

He has done good work.

[Los Broncos]

I didn't want to start a new thread for this but i thought it was worth shoving into this one because it's pathetic enough and needs to be ridiculed..

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=176442

Man boobs everlasting suck fest of Brodie Frayle has dwindled down to nothing more then threads of " how impressive Brodies incompletions look "...

Poor, poor mullets....Things are and will continue to be tough in mulletville for many years to come...Lets hope king Carl rules for another 30 years..:~ohyah!:

Thats to funny...

[DenverBrit]

I didn't want to start a new thread for this but i thought it was worth shoving into this one because it's pathetic enough and needs to be ridiculed..

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=176442

Man boobs everlasting suck fest of Brodie Frayle has dwindled down to nothing more then threads of " how impressive Brodies incompletions look "...

Poor, poor mullets....Things are and will continue to be tough in mulletville for many years to come...Lets hope king Carl rules for another 30 years..:~ohyah!:

Funny how the receivers just 'dropped' passes.......they were well defended and the passes should have been picked. :clown:

The one completion that made the Boob all giddy was a simple pass into the flat that anyone here should have made.

[DukeWoody]

I hope for Brodies sake he's a religious man because he's gonna need a miracle and an angle watching over him to survive the beating he will absorb for the rest of this season and most of next...

[Los Broncos]

Funny how the receivers just 'dropped' passes.......they were well defended and the passes should have been picked. :clown:

The one completion that made the Boob all giddy was a simple pass into the flat that anyone here should have made.

Yeah, was thinking the same thing, a defender was there on every pass.

[BMF Bronco]

"The more I see, the more i like. His footwork and delivery looked a bit like Elway to me. This guy's a keeper."

Hahahaha, you're ****ting me right?!

[rovolution]

I hope for Brodies sake he's a religious man because he's gonna need a miracle and an angle watching over him to survive the beating he will absorb for the rest of this season and most of next...

i dont know about religion but atleast he'll have this to look forward to Sunday nights after getting his sacked on nearly every play.


http://arrowheadaddict.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/kelli_croyle3.jpg

http://arrowheadaddict.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/k_croyleiiii.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9805/bouncexj0.gif


he may never amount to much of an NFL QB but hes still a lucky SOB.

[BMF Bronco]

i dont know about religion but atleast he'll have this to look forward to Sunday nights after getting his sacked on nearly every play.


http://arrowheadaddict.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/kelli_croyle3.jpg

http://arrowheadaddict.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/k_croyleiiii.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9805/bouncexj0.gif


he may never amount to much of an NFL QB but hes still a lucky SOB.

huh? did you say something???

[DukeWoody]

i dont know about religion but atleast he'll have this to look forward to Sunday nights after getting his sacked on nearly every play


he may never amount to much of an NFL QB but hes still a lucky SOB.


If i was his age in his position, i would be single and sporting 3 or 4 different flavours of ladies like that every week...variety is the spice of life...when you're in the big leagues there's plenty of variety to chose from playa....8')

Although she is some smmmoken southern sweetness!!

[Los Broncos]

Yeah, i wonder how much true love is costing him.

[elsid13]

If i was his age in his position, i would be single and sporting 3 or 4 different flavours of ladies like that every week...variety is the spice of life...when you're in the big leagues there's plenty of variety to chose from playa....8')

Although she is some smmmoken southern sweetness!!

Dude he lives in KC, the only variety there is long hair or short hair sheep.

[Beantown Bronco]

If i was his age in his position, i would be single and sporting 3 or 4 different flavours of ladies like that every week...variety is the spice of life...when you're in the big leagues there's plenty of variety to chose from playa....8')

Although she is some smmmoken southern sweetness!!

Tony Romo? Is that you?

[DukeWoody]

Dude he lives in KC, the only variety there is long hair or short hair sheep.

There are road games and cheerleaders...also with the scratch they're pulling in you could FEDEX AIR them in any time with same day arrival guaranteed or your money back...

Leave the mullets and their furry girlfreinds alone...It's been a tough year for their chefys and it isn't going to be getting better any time soon...so the pillow bighters need somthing to cry and curl up to at night...

[elsid13]

There are road games and cheerleaders...also with the scratch they're pulling in you could FEDEX AIR them in any time with same day arrival guaranteed or your money back...

Leave the mullets and their furry girlfreinds alone...It's been a tough year for their chefys and it isn't going to be getting better any time soon...so the pillow bighters need somthing to cry and curl up to at night...

You haven't seen the KC Chef cheerleaders have you.

[DukeWoody]

You haven't seen the KC Chef cheerleaders have you.

Hey as long as they have a nice bod with nice hair and white teeth...the rest is pretty much irrelevent to me for the 2 hours i'd know them...

Now this is me in fantasy mode...i'm really not like this, honest...:angel:

[alkemical]

i dont know about religion but atleast he'll have this to look forward to Sunday nights after getting his sacked on nearly every play.


http://arrowheadaddict.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/kelli_croyle3.jpg

http://arrowheadaddict.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/k_croyleiiii.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9805/bouncexj0.gif


he may never amount to much of an NFL QB but hes still a lucky SOB.

Nah, she's going to leave him. She stood him up at the airport

[KCStud]

That was crappy Plummer and way to Cherry Pick his worst season here. I clearly wrote "good Plummer" which would suggest the game manager that was occasionally capable of some big plays. Right now Croyle isn't that. He is more on par with last year's Plummer except that Plummer was ten times better at evading a rush than Croyle. Right now Croyle looks like he might be deaf in one ear the way he just stands there motionless totally unawares as defensive ends stomp in and pulverize his princess-like frame.


KCSheepstud, you have this hilarious way of making yourself look totally foolish. Edwards is a rookie this year. He played very well in preseason and is showing the normal progression of an NFL QB. This is Croyle's second year in the league where he failed to unseat a backup QB during preseason in one of the crappiest QB units in the league. Croyle should be light years ahead of Edwards and others with such a simplistic offense and two years to learn. He's not.

Edwards > Croyle


Ummm Croyle is the starting QB now right? Looks to me like Croyle has been MUCH better than Huard, something every person who watches the game can see. Croyle shouldn't be light years ahead of Edwards. He didn't play last year. He watched. The best way to gain experience is to play the game moron. It's totally different in practice than in an actual game

[Paladin]

Even when it doesn't count, Croyle sucks raccoon balls....

Poor, poor mullets.....

[Florida_Bronco]

Croyle shouldn't be light years ahead of Edwards. He didn't play last year. He watched. The best way to gain experience is to play the game moron. It's totally different in practice than in an actual game

Uhhhh...let's see.

Croyle sat his ass on the bench for the Chiefs last year, Edwards was in college last year.

So who should be ahead of who? ???


Moron.

[TheChamp24]

Ummm Croyle is the starting QB now right? Looks to me like Croyle has been MUCH better than Huard, something every person who watches the game can see. Croyle shouldn't be light years ahead of Edwards. He didn't play last year. He watched. The best way to gain experience is to play the game moron. It's totally different in practice than in an actual game

Oh my, you never fail to amaze people here.
Did mommy and daddy finally let you back on the computer?

[crazyhorse]

Croyle has as many playoff wins as Cutler.

[Mediator12]

Croyle has as many playoff wins as Cutler.

This kind of response is what makes you a troll CH. Since neither has had an opportunity WHY bring it up? To provoke. Period.

Neither Team deserves a playoff spot this year, so neither QB will get a chance. SO WHAT? Vince Young has sucked awfully this year and his TEAM is getting him Wins, just like Plummer got when he was here. Why bring that up again?

You used to be worth at least reading, but the chiefs collpase has made you mostly unreadable anymore.

[crazyhorse]

This kind of response is what makes you a troll CH. Since neither has had an opportunity WHY bring it up? To provoke. Period.

Neither Team deserves a playoff spot this year, so neither QB will get a chance. SO WHAT? Vince Young has sucked awfully this year and his TEAM is getting him Wins, just like Plummer got when he was here. Why bring that up again?

You used to be worth at least reading, but the chiefs collpase has made you mostly unreadable anymore.

It's funny you crack on me for this post. It was me using irony. This is the same crap I get. Now that you hear it, it's suddenly not reasonable. LOL But when you use it, it is. You are a hypocrite.

It's also notable that you say I was readable, but not any more. I've always been told I was unreadable. You people dont have the capacity to talk football. Even you, where I am concerned. You used to. But when the pom poms aren't waving, you dismiss it as trolling. Go to the butt when you want to talk football Sally. That's where all my threads talking football go.

I'll be here when you sack up. Until then you'll get what you give. Now quit crying.

[azbroncfan]

Ummm Croyle is the starting QB now right? Looks to me like Croyle has been MUCH better than Huard, something every person who watches the game can see. Croyle shouldn't be light years ahead of Edwards. He didn't play last year. He watched. The best way to gain experience is to play the game moron. It's totally different in practice than in an actual game


How many games has he won since beingl the starter? Huard has 4 how many does Croyle have?

[Mediator12]

It's funny you crack on me for this post. It was me using irony. This is the same crap I get. Now that you hear it, it's suddenly not reasonable. LOL But when you use it, it is. You are a hypocrite.

It's also notable that you say I was readable, but not any more. I've always been told I was unreadable. You people dont have the capacity to talk football. Even you, where I am concerned. You used to. But when the pom poms aren't waving, you dismiss it as trolling. Go to the butt when you want to talk football Sally. That's where all my threads talking football go.

I'll be here when you sack up. Until then you'll get what you give. Now quit crying.

In case you missed it, sarcasm needs a smilie or other qualifier on the internet, because the rest of communication is missed. I always make my sarcasm known because its HARD to figure out without a qualifier. Most people have a hard enought time even with it.

As for being a hypocrite, give me a specific instead of a gross generalism and I'll call it if it is. I am also NOT a moderator, and I do not move your posts. I do know you use selective arguments that are completely one sided to stir the masses quite frequently here. And that, my friend would merit those moves being done to a rival fan.

Talk football that is not so directly one sided and see what happens.

[sixtimeseight]

Croyle has as many playoff wins as Cutler.

How many wins does Croyle have vs. Cutler? Oh yea, zero.

[Inkana7]

41-7. :)

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

If we're going to bring up old threads I thought I'd bring back a good one.

[Inkana7]

Did Croyle get benched or hurt? Huard had a decent game.

[elsid13]

Did Croyle get benched or hurt? Huard had a decent game.

Hurt go figure:lalalala:

[BMF Bronco]

he got foneco'd

[Bob's your Information Minister]

TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHT

Preseason, week one.

Croyle - Two drives, one touchdown, 78 total yards of offense
Cutler - Two drives, one touchdown, 67 total yards of offense

Winner: BRODIE CROYLE.

Note: Brodie Croyle was without his starting left tackle.

[Flex Gunmetal]

Haha you are a clown.

[BMarsh615]

TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHT

Preseason, week one.

Croyle - Two drives, one touchdown, 78 total yards of offense
Cutler - Two drives, one touchdown, 67 total yards of offense

Winner: BRODIE CROYLE.

Note: Brodie Croyle was without his starting left tackle.

Who scored the touchdown for the Chiefs... LJ
Who scored the touchdown for the Broncos... Cutler

Winner: Jay Cutler

[Inkana7]

Jay also completed 80% of his passes.

[Bronx33]

great thread bob! 8 for 10

[DukeWoody]

Bobo's just pestering again (attention whoring), he knows which QB is the next superstar in waiting..Move along now bobo, your blow-up LJ doll is waiting for you..

[Bob's your Information Minister]

great thread bob! 8 for 10

It took Jake Utler 8 completions to get 59 yards. It took Croyle 6 to get 82.

Are the Broncos moving to a dink-and-dunk offense? Croyle will be over here, gunning the ball to Will Franklin down the field.

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6186/27648997qy4.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[Bronx33]

Atleast possum wasn't cutlers pregame meal.

[Broncobiv]

TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHT

Preseason, week one.

Croyle - Two drives, one touchdown, 78 total yards of offense
Cutler - Two drives, one touchdown, 67 total yards of offense

Winner: BRODIE CROYLE.

Note: Brodie Croyle was without his starting left tackle.

Preseason, week two.

Croyle - Four drives, 0 touchdowns, 109 total yards of offense
Cutler - Five drives, 2 touchdowns, 235 total yards of offense
Thigpen - Seven drives, 1 touchdown, 226 total yards of offense

Note: The Chiefs were playing the Cardinals. The Broncos were playing the Cowboys.

Gold: JAY CUTLER
Silver: TYLER THIGPEN
Bronze: BRODIE CROYLE
Failed to qualify: BOOB

It took Jake Utler 8 completions to get 59 yards. It took Croyle 6 to get 82.

Are the Broncos moving to a dink-and-dunk offense? Croyle will be over here, gunning the ball to Will Franklin down the field.

It took Croyle 7 completions to get 38 yards (5.4 YPC). It took Cutler 16 to get 178 (11.1 YPC).

Are the Chiefs moving to a dink-and-dunk offense? Cutler will be over here, gunning the ball to Eddie Royal down the field.


Oh, and...

Cutler: 80% completion, 8.9 YPA
Croyle: 53.8% completion, 2.9 YPA

[BMarsh615]

Preseason, week two.

Croyle - 7/13 38 Yards 0 Touchdowns
Cutler - 16/20 178 Yards 1 Touchdowns

Winner: I think Cutler pretty much won the preseason matchup with this one game.

Anyone wanna take an Over/Under for Croyle throwing for 178 yards this entire preseason???

EDIT: My bad didnt know somebody already bumped this thread:notthissh

[Broncobiv]

And upon further review, it has been determined that PATRICK RAMSEY actually receives the bronze medal with 4 drives, 0 touchdowns, and 127 total yards of offense.

Croyle is bumped out of medal contention, and Boob is still living in his mom's basement pleasuring himself to pictures of John Elway.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

You win some, you lose some.

I do have it on good authority that the Chiefs planned to dial down the offense this week. I imagine next week Croyle will be gunning it down the field as usual. None of this dink and dunk ****.

[Vladimir]

You win some, you lose some.

I do have it on good authority that the Chiefs planned to dial down the offense this week. I imagine next week Croyle will be gunning it down the field as usual. None of this dink and dunk ****.


rofl

[Bob's your Information Minister]

What you guys don't understand is our wide receivers are worn out. We had less on the roster this year than in previous seasons. That means fewer guys running more routes. We were just giving them a little break tonight.

I swear, if we throw the ball like the 2007 Chiefs next week I'll blow a gasket.

[Malcontent]

Your gaskets are already toast from simple day to day wear and tear fat boy!

[cutthemdown]

What you guys don't understand is our wide receivers are worn out. We had less on the roster this year than in previous seasons. That means fewer guys running more routes. We were just giving them a little break tonight.

I swear, if we throw the ball like the 2007 Chiefs next week I'll blow a gasket.

Chiefs win 6 games max.

[cutthemdown]

Just watching anyone can tell Cutler is way better then Croyle. In just a few more weeks these comparisons will be silly.

I'm not saying Cutler is Manning yet, more just Croyle stinks and Cutler getting better and better.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Just watching anyone can tell Cutler is way better then Croyle.

No ****? The quarterback with more than twice as many NFL starts is better?

You're a brain surgeon with observations like that.

[Broncobiv]

I do have it on good authority that the Chiefs planned to dial down the offense this week.
What you guys don't understand is our wide receivers are worn out. We had less on the roster this year than in previous seasons. That means fewer guys running more routes. We were just giving them a little break tonight.
OMFG STFU. What are you, a Chef coach? Actually, that might make sense, based on their recent level of play...

[Broncobiv]

No ****? The quarterback with more than twice as many NFL starts is better?

You're a brain surgeon with observations like that.
Dude, Colt Brennan has zero NFL starts, and he's better than Croyle.

[BMarsh615]

Dude, Colt Brennan has zero NFL starts, and he's better than Croyle.

:rofl:

[Popps]

Mother got mad at me because I left my underwear on the basement floor

Dude, do you ever stop to think before you puke out threads like this? Did you ever just think for a moment how badly this would backfire on you.

[kmonty]

No ****? The quarterback with more than twice as many NFL starts is better?

You're a brain surgeon with observations like that.

So... uh.. when you started this thread, you were hoping Croyle would just catch up at some point? Magically?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Dude, the only point was to have fun. I know Cutler is a much better QB at this point.

[Vladimir]

Dude, the only point was to have fun. I know Cutler is a much better QB at this point.

:thumbsup:

[Broncos_OTM]

No ****? The quarterback with more than twice as many NFL starts is better?

You're a brain surgeon with observations like that.

damn resorting to excuses now huh.. pitiful

[Bronx33]

Dude, the only point was to have fun. I know Cutler is a much better QB at this point.


Were you strangling your favorite thunder cat doll when you posted this?

[chawknz]

I love how Bob shifts his stance on Croyle post by post.

You should run for President. Show them how flip flopping is done!

[Los Broncos]

Flip flopper Bob, Cutler owns KC and Croyle.

[broncofan2438]

Its really a total waste of our time to talk about the damn qweefs!

[Miss I.]

Dude! Where's my receiver?

[Miss I.]

Though I like LJ, this picture just amuses me. It looks like he slipped on a banana peel or something.

[DenverBrit]

This thread should die now.
Cutler and Croyle compared......in the same sentence?
Hardly!

[SoCalBronco]

Were you strangling your favorite thunder cat doll when you posted this?

I know this was directed at Bob but still....I have to give my opinion on my beloved ThunderCats. Even though he was the bad guy, I always thought Mumm-Ra was awesome.

I wish I still had my old plastic Sword of Omens. I don't think they sell them at Toys R Us anymore, either, which sucks. :(

[Bronx33]

I know this was directed at Bob but still....I have to give my opinion on my beloved ThunderCats. Even though he was the bad guy, I always thought Mumm-Ra was awesome.

I wish I still had my old plastic Sword of Omens. I don't think they sell them at Toys R Us anymore, either, which sucks. :(


You know bob was a huge snarf fan right....:P

[SoCalBronco]

You know bob was a huge snarf fan right....:P

That would not surprise me. :)

[Miss I.]

okay, just because when you mentioned it, I remembered this episiode of Robot Chicken and could not help it.
http://www.videosift.com/video/Thundercats-Robot-Chicken

[GreatBronco16]

okay, just because when you mentioned it, I remembered this episiode of Robot Chicken and could not help it.
http://www.videosift.com/video/Thundercats-Robot-Chicken

LOL Hilarious!