Obama delivers a knock out punch, Hillary Booed [Archive] - The Orange Mane

Bronco Bob

08-08-2007, 01:21 PM

Interestingly the responses to the article think Obama is the one who blew it:

James Says:
great. so the savour of the free world is another war monger. awesome. how about solving problems rather than blowing things up. when did that EVER solve anything?

Carakav Says:
Meh, Obama lost me about a month ago.

MickeyD Says:
yeah, obama just lost my vote.

TalkLeft (http://talkleft.com/) Says:
I have watched the Hillary segment on Obama and Pakistan twice. The boos were not for her. They were either for Olbermann who went to Dodd for a response for for Dodd. I think the audience wanted Obama rather than Dodd to have a chance to respond.
It would be a good clip for you to put up so everyone can judge for themselves.

mudshark Says:
all three make sense..it comes down to Pakistan w/nukes.If Pakistan falls to radical islamists..I think India..will be watching very closely.That doesn’t mean that the radicals won’t try though…as bad as Musharrif is…we still need him.

mudshark Says:
I think Obama is saying this to show he is not wishy washy on terrrorism….the down side is he is starting to look like a war monger.He should of thought this threw better before he opened his mouth…..not enough experience…maybe in 4 more..but it will be hard to get past this even in 4 years

Railden Says:
“… making sure we are on the right battlefield, and not the wrong battlefield in the war against terrorism,” which drew huge applause from the audience.
More fluff from Obama.
What is the right battlefield? Should this be a movable scene - going from country to country and invading now
and then?
What about confronting what it is that causes people to resort to this sort of violence?
What about confronting our own history? What about talking to people?

tarheal Says:
My problem with Obama is that his record on the war and war funding is very much obvious. When the time came to defund the war or cut the defense bill he famously said “no one wants to play chicken with our troops”. It is very easy for him to criticize the votes of Hillary and Chris Dodd when he was a state senator. I would have loved to see if he did the same as a member of the US senate. Only a few senators voted against the war authorization and none of them are running for president.

Railden Says:
Pakistan was the country that allowed us to do what we did in Afganistan - for better or worse.
Everybody knew about Musharraf but he was OK because he was on our side.
Now he has fallen out of favor with the Bushies, and Obama is piling on to show he’s tough.

pk Says:
Obama lost me a long time ago - he reminds me of lieberman with his equivocating and wanting to play both sides of the issue…. kind of like hillary

Anonymal Says:
Plastic poser Obama vs. dead Osama.
The fact that the audience cheered on more war worries me deeply for the collective Karma of America.

Railden Says:
Obama was somewhat slippery when restating what he said. His original statement was clearly aimed at Musharraf.
Cowboy Obama is goin’ in if Musharraf doesn’t act the way we want him to. This is pure Bush.

BC Says:
Wow. How sad. It seems the audience, the voters, still want to warmonger. Obama appealed to that & was applauded. Clinton suggested restraint & was booed. Ruthug voter? Democrat voter? there is no difference.
*shrug* it doesn’t seem to matter who occupies the Whitehouse, the American people want blood.
=my depressed 2c

Christine Says:
It’ll be interesting to see if the headline does change, because Hillary wasn’t being booed. Railden is correct, they were booing Olberman for going to Dodd instead of Obama after Clinton.

omglawl Says:
Im not sure they were booing Hillary. Context anyone?

Bran Says:
I’m really unimpressed by Obama’s insistence on broadcasting a very unpleasant signal about America’s future foreign in order to score a non-point about how we want to get bin Laden. Of course we want bin Laden. But what seems to be ignored in all of this is that American special forces have already been attacking the Pashtuns in the eastern region of Pakistan, often on spurious intelligence and causing huge civilian casualties. Pakistan’s government needs to appear to the people of Pakistanis as having its own legitimacy and security agenda. By announcing to the world that we will forgo Pakistan’s own sovereignty in order to make a frontal assault on the eastern region, Obama has cast the Pakistani government in an even less legitimate light as some kind of marionette above which America can just yank the strings whenever it wants. For God’s sake that country has nuclear weapons. Why on earth would you destabilize it even more by saying that?
Clinton made a goof in front of the audience by saying that the President should not always say what he or she thinks although it’s pretty clear to me she meant regarding what tactics America was going to pursue in the future.

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http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/08/07/afl-cio-democratic-forum-sparks-finally-fly-hillary-gets-booed/