Computer ?

[Sassy]

I need to hook a new pc up...do I do VGA or DVI ???
I have a router and a wireless box.

[Willynowei]

Are you saying you want to hook up your PC to your TV? or to a monitor?

[Sassy]

No...this is the monitor instructions to hook it up to the pc.

[Garcia Bronco]

I've never met a wireless box in my life. there are always strings attached. :)

[Sassy]

True...ha! It does hook up to the computer and the router. LOL!

[Rock Chalk]

Hook it up DVI. You may not notice it if you dont have anything in HD on your computer but DVI is essentially HDMI without the sound data transmitted.

[Sassy]

DVI is just digital video instead of the classic common monitor that is VGA. It's unrelated to anything else ... for the router you just need an ethernet.

I have a DVI output on my video card, and a DVI input on my monitor .... I even have the cord. Should I plug it in? Would it work? Anybody?

Like I understand that language?
So...I just follow the instructions for VGA?
I hate electronics...and they hate me. :(

[Rock Chalk]

My monitor came with the option to plug in via DVI, VGA or USB. It mostly wont matter to you Sassy.

[Sassy]

I guess I'll just try it out then...
I hate to take down the old pc in case I can't get the new one to work...oh well, guess I could always set up the old one upstairs until I get the new one working...I won't get rid of MSN until I get the new one working anyway...

[BroncoBuff]

Alec knows ... might as well go DVI, as long as its backwards compatible. Is it Alec?

[Atwater His Ass]

Like I understand that language?
So...I just follow the instructions for VGA?
I hate electronics...and they hate me. :(

VGA is old.

DVI is new. (you want this)

Your motherboard/monitor/video card should have come with both types of connectors, and a VGA-to-DVI adapter if you need it.

It will make zero difference in setting anything up or how anything runs. It's analog vs. digital. Just hook it up like normal using the DVI connections. Easy as pie.

[Sassy]

It doesn't look like there's an adaptor...just the cord for VGA (blue ends) and the in/out (green ends). Plus, the electrical cord.Hmmm....in other words, I'm guessing the DVI cord is different and comes separate?

[Atwater His Ass]

it should have come with your monitor if it has dvi. otherwise you'll have to purchase one.

the connection looks like this (should be on the back of your computer (video card))
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:vYmt2FuXtwr_zM:http://www.microsoft.com/library/media/1033/windowsxp/images/using/setup/hwandprograms/67360-video-card-annotated.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.microsoft.com/library/media/1033/windowsxp/images/using/setup/hwandprograms/67360-video-card-annotated.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/hwandprograms/monitors.mspx&h=358&w=530&sz=82&hl=en&start=7&um=1&tbnid=vYmt2FuXtwr_zM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=132&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddvi%2Bconnector%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1 %26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN)

and the adapter looks like this (vga-to-dvi)

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Obf1RJiZALlX0M:http://www.rsssim.com/images/140_112/200601-001_140x112.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.rsssim.com/images/140_112/200601-001_140x112.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.pc-look.com/boutik/PNY.html%3Flanguage%3Den&h=112&w=140&sz=3&hl=en&start=5&um=1&tbnid=Obf1RJiZALlX0M:&tbnh=74&tbnw=93&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddvi%2Bvga%2Badpater%26svnum%3D10%26um %3D1%26hl%3Den)

[Sassy]

it should have come with your monitor if it has dvi. otherwise you'll have to purchase one.

**** I'm already frustrated and I barely have it out of the box!

[Sassy]

From the pics...it almost looks like the same cord...only plugged in different places?

[Atwater His Ass]

does your monitor have the dvi connection at the back? not the cord, but where the cord would plug in?

and do you see a similar connection point on the back of your computer?

[Rock Chalk]

Sassy, you have to look at your video card. If it is the normal monitor input thats VGA, otherwise it will be white (not blue) where you plug it in and have a bunch of slots instead of pins.

Its not frustrating. Just plug it in.

[Sassy]

Video card? I'm telling you...I don't have a clue.
I got my other one hooked up by myself...but that was years ago.
Where the cord is plugged into the monitor and there is a place on the pc that is blue.

[Sassy]

I'm not seeing the place for the DVI on the back of the tower.

[Rock Chalk]

OK Sassy, let me start simply.

Your video card is a piece of equipment on the inside of your computer. It has a place in the back of the computer that your monitor plugs into. Where you plug the monitor into the back of the computer, you have to look at that connection. If its blue, its a standard VGA plug in. If its white, its DVI.

If your monitor is one of the flat panels it should also have a USB connection wherre you can plug your monitor in via a USB slot. Below is an image of a video card that has both AND an S-Video input.

http://www.microsoft.com/library/media/1033/athome/images/moredone/dualmonitor_02.jpg

[Rock Chalk]

This is the cord for a DVI (well, one variation anyway)

http://www.msprojectstart.org/DVI.jpg

[BroncoBuff]

S-Video out works great for a TV.

Back in '99, I had a 25' S-Video cable and I would sit on my couch with a wireless keyboard and mouse, surfing the net on my 36" Sony ...

[BroncoBuff]

This is the cord for a DVI (well, one variation anyway)

http://www.msprojectstart.org/DVI.jpg

I wanna plug mine in - it's backwards compatible, right?

[Sassy]

This is the cord for a DVI (well, one variation anyway)

http://www.msprojectstart.org/DVI.jpg

Ok...don't have that cord...but there is that white plug to plug one in on the back of the monitor.

But it doesn't look like there is a place to plug in for DVI on the back of the PC.

Dang...I'd post pics...but I already unhooked the printer to this pc.

[Rock Chalk]

Ok...don't have that cord...but there is that white plug to plug one in on the back of the monitor.

That just means that your monitor is compatible with DVI but you need a Video Card also compatible.

And Buff, plug it in DVI if you have it. Its a better signal and VGA is being phased out anyway.

[Willynowei]

Sassy,

I would honestly recommend just going with the colors and using trial and error, you realy cannot break anything.

They usually give you so many plugs and lines out of the box, and nothing should be in excess... I don't think.

[Sassy]

Sassy,

I would honestly recommend just going with the colors and using trial and error, you realy cannot break anything.

They usually give you so many plugs and lines out of the box, and nothing should be in excess... I don't think.

Yeah..that's what I think I'll do. I need to get this hooked up asap...My free wireless ends today and I was suppose to have the day off and might have to go into work by 2. (well, it's my choice...but I'm too nice!) Like I said, I can rehook up this pc that I'm on upstairs if I can't get that one to work yet.

[baja]

I guess I'll just try it out then...
I hate to take down the old pc in case I can't get the new one to work...oh well, guess I could always set up the old one upstairs until I get the new one working...<b>I won't get rid of MSN</b> until I get the new one working anyway...

There's your problem right there.

[baja]

**** I'm already frustrated and I barely have it out of the box!

You're making it harder than it needs to be Sassy.

[Atwater His Ass]

Ok...don't have that cord...but there is that white plug to plug one in on the back of the monitor.

But it doesn't look like there is a place to plug in for DVI on the back of the PC.

Dang...I'd post pics...but I already unhooked the printer to this pc.

You are going to need the adapter (vga-to-dvi) to hook it to the back of your computer then.

From what I can gather from your above posts these are your options:

1) Buy a DVI cable and adapter. Plug in to your monitor with the cord, and use the adpater to hook up to the back of your computer. If your monitor does not also have a vga plug in, this is your only option.

2) If you monitor has both vga and dvi, you can just hook it up with your old vga cable and call it good.

[Sassy]

Ok guys...thanks for the info!
Let me try it and see what I can do.
Otherwise, I'll hook up this pc upstairs and get back to ya ;D

[Sassy]

There's your problem right there.

As soon as I get this hooked up with wireless, I'm getting rid of both MSN and QUEST...which will save me about $600 a year!

[Drek]

Just hook it up with the included VGA cable. The PC I got last november came with a DVI capable monitor and video card but no DVI cable, while I prefer DVI it wasn't like I was thrust into the stone age when on VGA. It'll still look worlds better if you're going from an old CRT or laptop to a nice widescreen LCD like I did.

As of now DVI and HDMI are still largely for A/V enthusiasts. They're wonderful techologies and I'm glad its becoming mainstream, but most of the stuff you'll use on a daily basis do absolutely nothing with it. Hook for PC up VGA and if you or a spouse/housemate have a 360 or PS3 consider using the DVI port for that if you don't have a high def TV already. Most sets will recognize the powered on device natively with no work from you.

Setting up a new PC isn't bad, its just matching colored ends of wire with the same colored ports while trying not to wind up with a knot that'd make a sailor frustrated. I recommend grabbing some twist ties and doing your wires up with them at needed intervals to get a neat bundle that'll stay out of the way after you've set everything up.

As far as wireless, any Windows XP or Vista system will be able to pick up wireless networks very easily on their own, you can simply pick and chose from them when in your wireless options window. Easiest way to get to it is by right clicking on the wireless network signal in your system tray (the lower right hand bar next to the time), a little monitor with waves coming out of it, and chosing "View Available Wireless Networks". It'll give you a list and you can chose yours (it'll likely be named the same as your router brand if you haven't changed it) and following the prompts from there. If you have a wireless card that doesn't use the built in XP or Vista wireless drivers it'll be only slightly more complicated, you instead right click on the appropriate system tray icon and do the same.

[Sassy]

Ok...got it hooked up but not the internet stuff yet. (Or the printer...that's a different story. I already know I need to download drivers from HP so that can wait...I need to be online for that anyway.)

Dumb question here... is the cd that came with the monitor have to be installed... (it doesn't look like it from what I see on the desktop) or is it just info about the monitor , etc. I don't recall having to do that before...? )
Also, can I have one pc on dial-up and that one on wireless? Because right now the old PC is now hooked up upstairs on dial up and the new one downstairs...and ready to be hooked up to wireless. Both different connections so it should work ??

[Rock Chalk]

Ok...got it hooked up but not the internet stuff yet.
Dumb question here... is the cd that came with the monitor have to be installed... (it doesn't look like it from what I see on the desktop) or is it just info about the monitor , etc. I don't recall having to do that before...? )
Also, can I have one pc on dial-up and that one on wireless? Because right now the old PC is now hooked up upstairs on dial up and the new one downstairs...and ready to be hooked up to wireless.

You dont need that CD for the monitor.

You can have both PCs on wireless provided you have a wireless router (which I assume you do) and a wireless card on both PCs AND the upstairs PC is close enough to the router to pick up a signal.

However, the answer to your question is yes. You can have one on Dial-up and one wireless though I suggest putting the upstairs on wirless and hardwiring the downstairs PC to the router that way you get high speed on both.

[Sassy]

I do have a wireless router...but I wasn't going to have both PC's going eventually...but that is an idea. The pc I am on now...old on...windowsxp is really messed up on...can't log in...says it's counterfeit...can't get email and have to get online going through google...it's messed up.
Although, maybe "wireless" will fix that! Ha! It's an idea. I was just courious if I could do that for now!
Thanks Alec!

[Sassy]

ARgh!!!! can't figure out which cables go to the router, which go to the PC and which go to the wireless box....Yikes! The cords only fit so many ways...time to take in the pc, router and box to I-29 so they can hook it up....I hate electronics!

With wireless, what shows on your screen for an internet connection???

[ScottXray]

Like I understand that language?
So...I just follow the instructions for VGA?
I hate electronics...and they hate me. :(

Sassy....Use the DVI if your monitor has a DVI input.

DVI (digital video interface) CAN be hooked up to most new HD tvs by getting a DVI to HDMI cable, and an audio cable.....and as said previously is HDMI without the audio that HDMI carries . (HDMI = High definition multimedia interface).
Imagine using a 60" plasma tv as your monitor, or even a middling 37 " tv.
(Personally I have a computer hooked upto my 65" tv in the living room. Very big for playing dvds etc.)

:strong: :curtsey:

[Jana®]

Poor Sassy :( I wish I was nearby.. I'd hook the computer up for you! I don't know a thing about the wireless stuff, but I know how to hook up the equipment! And the router. At least on my computer anyways.

[PatsWin2002]

From the top.....what did you buy and what do you have for internet connection equipment? It sounds like you bought a new desktop PC and a wireless router of some kind.

I have some initial questions for you. The people here can easily get you up and running so that you have multiple PCs on a secure wireless network with shared folders and stuff if you give us more info. :)

1) Do you want to scrap the old PC or network it too (or at least long enough to get your stuff off it)?

2) Do you have DSL or a cable modem? Does it have a router built-in already?

3) If you plan on using just one PC then you can just turn off the wireless transmission on the router. You don't need it and you won't need to secure it.

I am confused by the "wireless box" thing.

[Sassy]

Ok...DONE! Except the guy at the store told me I didn't need to download the software...then I called the tech and he said yep...so it is now working...just in the process of downloading avast virus stuff...they recommended that over Norton...I had to take Norton free trial off to get it to work.

[Rock Chalk]

ARgh!!!! can't figure out which cables go to the router, which go to the PC and which go to the wireless box....Yikes! The cords only fit so many ways...time to take in the pc, router and box to I-29 so they can hook it up....I hate electronics!

With wireless, what shows on your screen for an internet connection???

Here

http://www.tecnologiadeleon.com/images/diagram.jpg

[Rock Chalk]

Assume ATA is your modem for these purposes. Router connects to modem with CAT 5 (big telephone looking cable). If connecting to router via wireless from the PC then no cable is needed. Otherwise, the same big CAT 5 cable needs to be hooked from the PC to the router, generally in slot 1 (there should be a separate single slot on the router to plug into the cable modem).

Plug the router and cable modem into the wall socket. This is important as both need power. Your PC may or may not automatically connect to the wireless connection or if wired it should just automatically connect UNLESS your router requires some special setup.

[Rigs11]

ARgh!!!! can't figure out which cables go to the router, which go to the PC and which go to the wireless box....Yikes! The cords only fit so many ways...time to take in the pc, router and box to I-29 so they can hook it up....I hate electronics!

With wireless, what shows on your screen for an internet connection???

plug the modem into the router .does your pc have a wireless nic card? if not then plug another cable from the router to the pc.

http://help.insightbb.com/images/help/game_consoles/ps3_to_wireless1.gif

[Sassy]

Well, whatever the "wireless" thing is...
It's working so far for the moment anyway.

Anyone know anything about avast?

I'm downloading that.

NO PHONE LINES OR DIALUP!
Love the ethernet baby!

I think I'm good...thanks guys!

[Sassy]

Hmmm...I think I'll take some pics! LOL!
It's a little wireless (router?) and a wireless broadband router...I have linksys router and the little wireless thing.

[Rigs11]

Well, whatever the "wireless" thing is...
It's working so far for the moment anyway.

Anyone know anything about avast?

I'm downloading that.

NO PHONE LINES OR DIALUP!
Love the ethernet baby!

I think I'm good...thanks guys!

Avast is a great antivirus program.Updates weekly.

[Sassy]

It still seems slow though...or is the board slow again?

[Garcia Bronco]

(smacks forehead)

[Sassy]

GB are you giving me crap...what?

[Rock Chalk]

Avast is good, AVG is good, both are > Norton + McAfee combined.

Well done Sass, you built a computer. Well, assembled one. OK, you plugged one in.

[Sassy]

SHUTUP ALEC ;D
Ha! paybacks...

[baja]

I vote this the sweetest Mane family thread of the year.

[Sassy]

Ha!

[Sassy]

Now all I have to do is getting my printer setup tomorrow...hoping HP has the drivers it needs...because I know it will! ;D I'm not in the mood to deal with it tonight! I need a good glass of wine! ;D

[Sassy]

I sent emails to friends/families telling them I now have working email. However, I tried sending an email to my parents and it came back undeliverable... why is that happening? I hit reply on an email my dad sent me today.

[crawdad]

Trend Micro PC-Cillin is a good AV program

[Jana®]

I use AVG free edition and have no problems whatsoever.

[Rock Chalk]

Sassy, perhaps an investment into one of the many Video Professor CDs would be a good idea....

just saying.

[Sassy]

Hey, I got it working didn't I?

[Los Broncos]

Maybe if you have some time next summer, take a computer repair class.

It will teach you the basics, just saying.

[Sassy]

Repair...I was setting up a new one!

That's kind of a nasty remark...gee, I asked, got some good answers and got it setup...guess maybe I won't ask my questions here next time then if I get all this crap.

[Sassy]

Yikes...I so don't think I have the right cords for the printer. I have no idea. He gave me a USB cord, but I think it needs to go through the router with an ethernet cord? I hate electronics :(

[Jana®]

Wow.. that's confusing!

[Sassy]

Yep...especially when I told him what wireless company I was going through. Now, I need to find my receipt to return that...and get an ethernet cord..although I'll bring the printer manual with me. I also can return Norton! I downloaded avast instead.

[Los Broncos]

Trend Micro PC-Cillin is a good AV program

Ive been saying this same thing forever.

[Los Broncos]

Repair...I was setting up a new one!

That's kind of a nasty remark...gee, I asked, got some good answers and got it setup...guess maybe I won't ask my questions here next time then if I get all this crap.

I wasn't trying to be nasty or rude Sassy.

I was just giving my opinion

[Rock Chalk]

Sassafras, Im glad you are up and runnging doll. No worries.

[worm]

Hey Sass...

This end goes in the wall. :angel:

[Blueflame]

Yikes...I so don't think I have the right cords for the printer. I have no idea. He gave me a USB cord, but I think it needs to go through the router with an ethernet cord? I hate electronics :(

Our printer doesn't connect to the router... it's just connected to the pc via a USB cord (the computer has a wireless card, so is connected to the 'net via the wireless router).

[Sassy]

Hey Sass...

This end goes in the wall. :angel:

Nope...it goes in the surge protector ;D

[Sassy]

Our printer doesn't connect to the router... it's just connected to the pc via a USB cord (the computer has a wireless card, so is connected to the 'net via the wireless router).

Yeah...it helps to reread the directions...although I haven't got that far yet...been to busy with music first ;D

I hope it works even though I don't plan on setting up the fax part of it and after I get done with the updates for Vista.

[Blueflame]

Yeah...it helps to reread the directions...although I haven't got that far yet...been to busy with music first ;D

I hope it works even though I don't plan on setting up the fax part of it and after I get done with the updates for Vista.

Good luck... the printer should be "the easy part' compared to the other stuff you've already got connected.

[worm]

Nope...it goes in the surge protector ;D

Doh! You just went beyond my knowledge. :)

[Sassy]

Doh! You just went beyond my knowledge. :)

Just being a little "sassy" ;D

[Sassy]

With my hotmail accoount...I go to hotmail and when I get there it asks if I want to update to Windows Live...which it now is...but when I sign in it already takes me there...at least my screen says "windows live" but it won't let me copy and paste and doesn't look like the windows live setup...hmmm ??? It says it no longer supports http...does that mean I can't copy/paste...

...my other question is...if I cancel my msn subcription, does that cancel out that email account?