Moss' MRI Negative

[broncofan4life]

Good news!!! denverbroncos.com

[Rock Chalk]

So, he's just a pussy?

[BroncoInferno]

The season is saved !!!! ;D

[Hogan11]

All that freaking out for nothing.

[CBF1]

I feel dirty

[epicSocialism4tw]

good news

[crowebomber]

I'm ecstatic that he's OK, but dissapointed that he might be a big ol wuss.

[ward63]

That's good news, but dont rush him back. I still say Crowder is more important out of this draft class. I'm not saying I don't want Moss to do well, but he's only going to be out there on passing downs.

[Popcorn Sutton]

Good to hear.

[Broncoman13]

That's good news, but dont rush him back. I still say Crowder is more important out of this draft class. I'm not saying I don't want Moss to do well, but he's only going to be out there on passing downs.

Khan is going to be glad that he blew this one... Not sure why he would post something so negative (in terms of severity) without knowing for sure. Sure got a lot of people riled up... but then, he's just doing what we've all asked and that's delivering news!

[SonOfLe-loLang]

That's good news, but dont rush him back. I still say Crowder is more important out of this draft class. I'm not saying I don't want Moss to do well, but he's only going to be out there on passing downs.

Yeah, but passing downs has been the thorn in our side since like...forever

[bpc]

Hey, I think we all are breathing a sigh of a relieve right now. Who cares what it was, thankfully its not the worst!

[SoDak Bronco]

He just wanted to see his status with the O-maners, we are going on 8 pages.. Well done jarvis.

[NYBronco]

How long before he can return?

[OrangeShadow]

I doubt hes a "wuss" would you want to risk further injury to your first round pick if you were the broncos?or to yourself if you were moss?

i doubt it.

[elsid13]

He just wanted to see his status with the O-maners, we are going on 8 pages.. Well done jarvis.

Bad news was that only 3 pages were about him, the rest were idiots that didn't know animal house and bobo. We get more inputs over SOB's dog then we did Moss.

[frerottenextelway]

How long before he can return?

tomorrow morning according to him

[Jana®]

Good news!

[telluride]

Here's Mason again:

As it turned out, not only was the MRI on Moss’ left knee negative, but the first-round pick left open the door for actually participating in Tuesday morning’s practice — something that would be a staggering sight to anyone who witnessed Moss’ tumble to the ground and heard his anguished yells halfway through Monday morning’s practices.


Can't believe how you people freaked out and went all doomsday on me.

[Ha!]

[BroncoFiend]

So, he's just a p***Y?

Actually with knee injuries a lot of pain is usually a good sign. If it were a tear, the nerve endings would have torn and he would have felt very little pain.

Wasn't it Olandis Gary who even stayed in the game after he popped his ACL? That was likely because he didn't feel the initial pain.

I doubt he'll be back tomorrow though, they'll keep him out the rest of the week I bet.

[RkyMtnThunder]

Good to hear!


Doesnt sound like a high tolerance for pain though.

Hopefully he isnt the type of player to frequently get sidelined by minor injuries.

[tsr28]

That's good news, but dont rush him back.

I would agree very much with this part. People may think he was a big girl with all the noise of his agony, but it was at least a good sign as stated in the other thread that there was pain to be felt.

[Racer]

Wasn't it Olandis Gary who even stayed in the game after he popped his ACL? That was likely because he didn't feel the initial pain.


Well I know Quentin Griffen played a whole game after shredding his entre knee. Q wasn't always the greatest rb but he was a hell of a team player.

[Paladin]

Isaw all the commotion on the other pages, and I thought sure that the Mane was gonna crass from the horrors of it all. Glad he's alright.

OT: The Pitt river is great for fishing. Several salmon and Bull trout caught. One salmon at around 25 pounds. Bull Trout are about 3 to 5 pounds. Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming.....

[x123z]

Moss is very important. Third down a passing down is when the defense had their head handed to them. Remember the Pittsburg playoff game?

[Dedhed]

Good to hear!


Doesnt sound like a high tolerance for pain though.

Hopefully he isnt the type of player to frequently get sidelined by minor injuries.

First we overreact to the injury, and know we've moved on to overreacting about Moss' pain threshold and how it will affect his career. At least we all learned something from this.

[DeuceOfClub]

Great news.
Now, if we can only sign a stud O-Lineman like Damion ManCintosh we’ll be in a great shape

[telluride]

But can we still ban Bob?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Wasn't it Olandis Gary who even stayed in the game after he popped his ACL? .

Yes

[cutthemdown]

A twisted joint can hurt far more then a clean tear of the acl.

[bpc]

I think we should let Moss sleep and see where we are in the morning. Still might be cartilage damage but knock on wood and lets hope not.

[footstepsfrom#27]

A twisted joint can hurt far more then a clean tear of the acl.
I've had a half dozen knee injuries including two torn ACL's and all of them hurt but the worst pain I've ever felt was pulled knee ligaments the first time I got hurt. I'm glad he's OK. I'd definitely nix the return to practice tomorrow however. Give it a few days to make sure there's no swelling or any other problems. Better safe than sorry.

[Garcia Bronco]

I've had a half dozen knee injuries including two torn ACL's and all of them hurt but the worst pain I've ever felt was pulled knee ligaments the first time I got hurt. I'm glad he's OK. I'd definitely nix the return to practice tomorrow however. Give it a few days to make sure there's no swelling or any other problems. Better safe than sorry.

You gotta take care of your wheels. But I say let the guy do what he's comfortable with and see what happens.

[55CrushEm]

I think we should let Moss sleep and see where we are in the morning. Still might be cartilage damage but knock on wood and lets hope not.

Wouldn't the MRI show cartilage damage, as well as ligament damage?

I'm reading the news as his knee has ZERO structural damage....but maybe I'm wrong.

[Man-Goblin]

I'm glad I missed this freak out session.

[bpc]

Wouldn't the MRI show cartilage damage, as well as ligament damage?

I'm reading the news as his knee has ZERO structural damage....but maybe I'm wrong.

I didn't read that it said zero structural damage.

They usually take x-rays and MRI to reveal all damage. MRI's for ligament if I recall correctly, x ray for cartilage and structural issues.

I HOPE he doesn't have any permanent damage. That would be ideal.

[Broncos4Life]

Damn man. I was surprised and thought it was a sick joke when I read that he went down. Now I can breath a sigh of relief and sleep better tonight.

[DukeWoody]

Can't really blame the kid for being a little skittish when it comes to pain and injury...I mean there was a point in time not to long ago,where he was probably thinking he was on his way out with no return...That pelvic infection remaind a mystery to him for quite some time before it was diagnosed...That would be petty scarry losing all your strength and dropping 1\3 your normal weight...
So ya,the kid prolly does act a little prematurely when it comes to injury,but i can hardly blame him and i think to endure and overcome what he has just a few short years ago,makes him one tuff dude both mentally,and physically...
Keep up the good work SWAP MOSS and here's to a season with 14 sacks...:thumbsup:

[Los Broncos]

Good news

I wasn't freaked as much as some were

[SouthStndJunkie]

That would have been a real downer had he been hurt for the year.

You guys almost had me convinced.

[cabronco]

Great news ! I didnt freak out, its just with all the positives of Moss skills & hard work coming out of TC , I like cheering for the good guys that work hard to get better. Now go get your sorry azz out there B. Marsh ! :giggle:

[Malcontent]

Not even any swelling?? This is strange. Usually the knee will swell like a grapefruit when twisted. I've done it several times. I'm sure JM was scared of missing the season, which could have contributed to his anguish lying on the ground.

[BroncoBuff]

I feel dirty

classic :~ohyah!:

[theAPAOps5]

Heck if I was a pro football player with no guranteed contract and my knee popped or got sprained I would scream in agony too. More for the lost money. But then I would think back to the signing bonus I just got and that would help the pain go away!

[coachmastermind]

Great news!

[Arkansas Bronco]

I think everyone is freaking to much on a 3rd down pass rush. Dud is 260 and unless you are called Jason Taylor prove it. Fact is we still have a proven RB and great blocking/descent catch TE, A Dl line fatty, and a pro-bowl CB bach but and undersized DE from most of the posts if he gets injured kills us. Sorry Elvis is way undersized also but has great hand movements so none of this was to stressful.

[WoodMan]

Learned a whole lot about who the Chicken Littles are on this web site today, reading the other thread this afternoon. Talk about over reactors and rumor mongers making things up without a shred of evidence. Like a high school DRAMA class. ::) Not so surprising so many of the good knowledgeable posters who have left the mane are gone really.

[cmhargrove]

I think everyone is freaking to much on a 3rd down pass rush. Dud is 260 and unless you are called Jason Taylor prove it. Fact is we still have a proven RB and great blocking/descent catch TE, A Dl line fatty, and a pro-bowl CB bach but and undersized DE from most of the posts if he gets injured kills us. Sorry Elvis is way undersized also but has great hand movements so none of this was to stressful.

No one will disagree that this is a team sport and we belive the team has progressed as a whole, however...... Which of the other guys on our roster is beating Matt Lepsis (1 on 1 drills) on a regular basis? I'm just saying.... I hope Elvis and Engleberger and Ekuban all have great seasons, but this kid is starting to look like our best pass rusher in years. Did I mention he is the only one beating Lepsis regularly? I hope I don't have to say that again.

[bdv]

Good to hear!


Doesnt sound like a high tolerance for pain though.

Hopefully he isnt the type of player to frequently get sidelined by minor injuries.
I wasn't there, I'd like to see and hear the video. My guess is first, yeah it hurt, but after being plagued with injuries for much of his college career, perhaps those were mostly anger-screams.

Kahn?...

[Vegas_Bronco]

Is it true!!!? I just got home from work - so, did J.C. heal Moss?

I know I'll be saying my thanks tonight! :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

[TotallyScrewed]

Hixon healed Moss and himself BTW. In other news Hixon refuses to heal Smith for the obvious reasons.

Great news that Moss is probably going to be okay.

[Kaylore]

This is great news. Yes I was pretty pessimistic about our chances sans-Moss, but honestly I still feel that way. This team needs a pass rush more than anything else and Moss brings just that. And I would like to point out that I wasn't lying about what happened. Everyone on the field saw the same thing and he was carted off. You don't cart people off unless they think that it's serious. Here's to dodging a bullet and let's all pray that the injury God will show mercy on us from here on out. :notworthy 8')

[epicSocialism4tw]

It's football season, folks. Let's talk about football.

[Malcontent]

This is great news. Yes I was pretty pessimistic about our chances sans-Moss, but honestly I still feel that way. This team needs a pass rush more than anything else and Moss brings just that. And I would like to point out that I wasn't lying about what happened. Everyone on the field saw the same thing and he was carted off. You don't cart people off unless they think that it's serious. Here's to dodging a bullet and let's all pray that the injury God will show mercy on us from here on out. :notworthy 8')

Your pessimism was probably warranted Kaylore. You witnessed him screaming etc.. I may have come to the same conclusions. Hopefully this episode lights a fire under him bolstering his confidence to unprecedented levels!!
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Or not. We shall see.:thanku:

[Kaylore]

Your pessimism was probably warranted Kaylore. You witnessed him screaming etc.. I may have come to the same conclusions. Hopefully this episode lights a fire under him bolstering his confidence to unprecedented levels!!
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Or not. We shall see.:thanku:

He just needs to keep doing what he's doing. I've seen what he can do and he's what we need.

[serious hops]

First we overreact to the injury, and know we've moved on to overreacting about Moss' pain threshold and how it will affect his career.

My thoughts exactly! The guy has now officially missed, what? Part of one practice. . . Probably a little premature to be making judgements about his pain threshold. I for one am extremely relieved to hear that he didn't shred his knee. We need a consistent pass rush in the worst way, and no one else on the team has the upside and the set of tools to work with that Moss does.

[listopencil]

Good to hear. I can't believe some of you ****ers are bitching at him for screaming in pain when he hurt it. I'd bet some of you fat asses couldn't even jog a lap around Dove Valley much less complete one morning of Training Camp. Jesus.

[bronco militia]

This is great news. Yes I was pretty pessimistic about our chances sans-Moss, but honestly I still feel that way. This team needs a pass rush more than anything else and Moss brings just that. And I would like to point out that I wasn't lying about what happened. Everyone on the field saw the same thing and he was carted off. You don't cart people off unless they think that it's serious. Here's to dodging a bullet and let's all pray that the injury God will show mercy on us from here on out. :notworthy 8')


don't quit your day job, doc

ROFL!

[baja]

Well all I can say is I am glad I switched to this thread after only 3 pages of that 11 page melt down. Geez!

[Atlas]

This is great news. Yes I was pretty pessimistic about our chances sans-Moss, but honestly I still feel that way. This team needs a pass rush more than anything else and Moss brings just that. And I would like to point out that I wasn't lying about what happened. Everyone on the field saw the same thing and he was carted off. You don't cart people off unless they think that it's serious. Here's to dodging a bullet and let's all pray that the injury God will show mercy on us from here on out. :notworthy 8')

Kahn, Kahn, Kahn. I don't think we can put up with this tabloid journalism any longer!!!

[Hulamau]

Actually with knee injuries a lot of pain is usually a good sign. If it were a tear, the nerve endings would have torn and he would have felt very little pain.

Wasn't it Olandis Gary who even stayed in the game after he popped his ACL? That was likely because he didn't feel the initial pain.

I doubt he'll be back tomorrow though, they'll keep him out the rest of the week I bet.

I hope you are right .. let him rest this week and strengthen it with training ...he can learn a lot watching too and do all the hand techniques with that Kung Fu ninja they supposedly brought in to teach hands ... Why even think of risking it right now when a little prudence could insure he's 110% ... Who cares if he doesn't plays against SF?

[p7superfly]

Hixon healed Moss and himself BTW. In other news Hixon refuses to heal Smith for the obvious reasons.



:rofl:

[theAPAOps5]

don't quit your day job, doc

ROFL!

Any person would have assume the worst seeing him writhing in pain and carted off the field. You act like he just jumped to that conclusion.

[Hulamau]

It was stiff and swollen so give him a couple days off for thorough rehab ... take no chances...

"Several hours later he was walking with a limp, his left knee wrapped.

"It feels better right now. It's just stiff. I've got to get on some anti-inflammatories so I can get back to bending it and my joints can get back right," he said. "But I'm fine. It's not as serious as it looked. It was scary, especially at first."

Moss didn't bang into Rogers; he got hurt when his left cleat got stuck in the grass as he twisted past him.

"I didn't witness anything," Rogers said. "I was doing 1-on-1s against him and I turned around and saw he was hurt. He planted his foot and spun on the inside. I don't know what happened, how he got hurt."

[broncogary]

"I didn't witness anything," Rogers said. "I was doing 1-on-1s against him and I turned around and saw he was hurt. He planted his foot and spun on the inside. I don't know what happened, how he got hurt."

I guess he was already past Rogers, then, if Rogers had to turn around to see that he was hurt.

[Mediator12]

Jeez, we have some reactionary people here!

Several key points to remember about this:

1. The pain he had was real. There are many ways to tweak your knee as their are four Major ligaments and the Patellar tendon that keep the knee moving properly. That does not include cartilage and the knee socket itself.

2. MRI's and Xrays are wonderful tools. but they are not foolproof on knee injuries. They can miss tears and cartilage damage of the minor variety. They will see a major tear though or a major problem. All of the various minor damage can heal without surgery, except Cartilage and ACL complete tears.

3. Everyone feels pain differently, and everyone heals differently. Personal experience is not a good indicator of how someone else will feel or heal. I never felt a thing on either ACL tear, but I had no other damage except clean tears. When I had my second ACL repaired, they found very minor cartilage damage the MRI missed and repaired it while doing the patellar tendon graft.

4. Injuries are a part of the NFL season. They just are. This team is building their depth at important positions including CB, DT, and DE. They still need some healthy WR's though. Let's just take it easy until we see what happens with Moss. Note it and move on. It 's really all we need to do in TC.

5. Please make all injury threads for the Venting ;D Everyone needs to blow off frustration in some way, so let the guys have their meltdowns! Better than on their wives or Kids.

[Hulamau]

Jeez, we have some reactionary people here!

2. MRI's and Xrays are wonderful tools. but they are not foolproof on knee injuries. They can miss tears and cartilage damage of the minor variety. They will see a major tear though or a major problem. All of the various minor damage can heal without surgery, except Cartilage and ACL complete tears.



All the more reason to take it easy with Moss too and not rush him back.. if he is stiff and swollen a bit chances are minor damage is there .. let it heal for a week of treatment while he stays in shape does his hand skills and generally learns what is going on ... No more spin moves for a while please!

We need this guy firing on all cylinders come September.

[bronco militia]

Any person would have assume the worst seeing him writhing in pain and carted off the field. You act like he just jumped to that conclusion.


not really...just giving kaylore a little hell Ha!

[theAPAOps5]

not really...just giving kaylore a little hell Ha!

You know after I reread that this morning it occurred to me that it was just some good natured ball busting.

[c_lazy_r]

Hixon healed Moss and himself BTW. In other news Hixon refuses to heal Smith for the obvious reasons.

Great news that Moss is probably going to be okay.


How did I know this was coming...

[BroncoBuff]

Hixon healed Moss.

Of COURSE! How could we all be so blind? That explains everything ....

[crowebomber]

Of COURSE! How could we all be so blind? That explains everything ....

Hixon needs to heal his own ailing hands.

[lazarus4444]

Why are people questioning his pain threshold and calling him a pussy? I don't get it?? *shrug* I doubt he's a pussy and i'm happy he's on the team and that he's ok. Bates will find a way to get him more involved.

[Beantown Bronco]

Why are people questioning his pain threshold and calling him a p***Y? I don't get it??

Because he was supposedly screaming and writhing around on the ground for 15 minutes like a European soccer player lobbying for a yellow card.....and, like that soccer player, he was in fact fine. :P

[lazarus4444]

Well i bet he'll be back on the field before marshall.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Hixon needs to heal his own ailing hands.

Hixon had a good morning today. Caught everything thrown his way.

[El Guapo]

whew

[TheReverend]

Hixon needs to heal his own ailing hands.

Hixon has never dropped a ball. The balls tremble in fear as they approach him and fall to the ground in cardiac arrest.

[chawknz]

Sirius NFL Radio is at our TC today and they said Moss was there and his leg is "fine".

:D

Edit to add: Just read today's TC report and maybe Moss wasn't there. Maybe the Sirius guys are just blowing hot air. :D
heh