Bonds ties Aaron

[CBF1]

Bonds just hit #755 to tie Aaron

Slap, time for you to take over ROFL!

[RhymesayersDU]

Finally. And funny how ARod got to 500 last night, finally.

[theAPAOps5]

I hope they have that asterix ready.

[CBF1]

Actully A-Rod hit #500 this afternoon

[Atwater His Ass]

I hope they have that asterix ready.

fo sho

[Inkana7]

*

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

F' em. Can't wait for it to be broken

[RhymesayersDU]

Actully A-Rod hit #500 this afternoon

Oops. You're right. For some reason I thought since I heard about it a couple hours ago, it was last night's news.

Odd how they both broke out on the same day.

[CBF1]

Glavin will get #300 tomorrow, things always come in 3's

[Que]

Yawn

[DBroncos4life]

It was going to happen sooner or later. Too bad Griffey fell off so bad the last few years. Its up to A-rod now.

[RMT]

what a shame ...

[dlow187]

Who did he get it off?

[Kaylore]

Boooooooooo

[RMT]

Who did he get it off?

Clay Hensley

[chaz]

bonds puts the douchebag in douchebag

[TDmvp]

such crap to see a man who was a stud on the field , a trailblazer , a class act , and had to go threw so much unfair treatment not brought on himself record get broken by a cheating , selfsevering @sshole who brings everything on himself ... your still the king hank

still hank's record ... next question ...

[Wes Mantooth]

Barry Bonds is a cheater.

[maher_tyler]

Barry Bonds is a cheater.

I don't get the point of this picture?? He was prolly 20 something in the first pic and 40 in the other thats about 20 years apart..people gain weight, when you get older your motabolism slows way down..hell i've gained 30 pounds in the last 2 years does that mean i'm on steroids?? No...not saying he did not saying he didn't use roids but he has yet to fail a piss test...am i wrong??

[KipCorrington25]

Barry Bonds is a cheater.
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=19935&stc=1&d=1186306294


Wow, Snoop Minnis played for the Pirates?

[Wes Mantooth]

I don't get the point of this picture?? He was prolly 20 something in the first pic and 40 in the other thats about 20 years apart..people gain weight, when you get older your motabolism slows way down..hell i've gained 30 pounds in the last 2 years does that mean i'm on steroids?? No...not saying he did not saying he didn't use roids but he has yet to fail a piss test...am i wrong??

?????

Are you freakin' joking? Here is a picture in drag

[Wes Mantooth]

How about him here

[Wes Mantooth]

I don't get the point of this picture?? He was prolly 20 something in the first pic and 40 in the other thats about 20 years apart..people gain weight, when you get older your motabolism slows way down..hell i've gained 30 pounds in the last 2 years does that mean i'm on steroids?? No...not saying he did not saying he didn't use roids but he has yet to fail a piss test...am i wrong??

With this logic, shouldn't he look much more like John Kruck?

[24champ]

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[24champ]

http://www.dodgerdugout.com/bonds_sign.jpg



http://www.dodgerdugout.com/Barrysyringe.jpg

[maher_tyler]

With this logic, shouldn't he look much more like John Kruck?

I'm sure he did but there isn't much proof..pictures don't mean a whole lot when it boils down to it...it's possible that he just worked/works out?? I'm looking at it from both sides. John Kruck sits in a studio all day, Bonds is prolly a little more physically active!!

[Wes Mantooth]

I'm sure he did but there isn't much proof..pictures don't mean a whole lot when it boils down to it...it's possible that he just worked/works out?? I'm looking at it from both sides. John Kruck sits in a studio all day, Bonds is prolly a little more physically active!!

Can you name one athlete who has gained two hat sizes in adulthood (well past his mid twenties mind you), peaked in his late 30's, gained what appears to be at least 60 pounds of lean muscle mass and not been on roids?

[24champ]

Bonds' former teammates Armando Rios, Benito Santiago and Bobby Estalella, as well as former Oakland A's Jason and Jeremy Giambi, have admitted using performance-enhancing drugs provided by Anderson. All the players said they knew Anderson because he was Bonds' trainer, and all five also testified because they were offered immunity as long as they told the truth to the grand jury. But prosecutors warned the players, including Bonds, that they would be charged with perjury if they were discovered lying under oath.

According to the Chronicle, Gary Sheffield also testified that in 2002 Bonds arranged for him to receive "the clear," "the cream" and "red beans," steroid pills manufactured in Mexico. Sheffield further stated he was never told he was using steroids; that Bonds was using both "the cream" and "the clear"; and that he had no dealings with Anderson directly.

According to the Chronicle, prosecutors questioned Bonds about several other documents, including some that suggested he was using the steroid trenbolone and modafinil, an anti-narcolepsy drug used as a stimulant. Bonds said he had never heard of those drugs. Another document read, "Barry 12-2-02, T, 1 CC G -- pee."

"T could mean anything," Bonds said. "G could mean anything. And pee could probably mean anything."

Bonds also testified he didn't know about documents indicating BALCO had begun screening his blood for both nutritional deficiencies and steroids in 2001. Bonds did say, however, that in 2003 he became suspicious of baseball's steroid testing program and asked Anderson to have him tested.

"We got tested two times this season unannounced," Bonds tesified. "I don't trust baseball. They say it's anonymous, but then they put your name on it. So I don't trust baseball. So I asked Greg ... 'I want to know what baseball's doing behind our backs.'

"I never saw the papers, never saw the results. Greg just said, 'You're negative,'" Bonds said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1937594

[maher_tyler]

Can you name one athlete who has gained two hat sizes in adulthood (well past his mid twenties mind you), peaked in his late 30's, gained what appears to be at least 60 pounds of lean muscle mass and not been on roids?

i don't know man..i don't know all on how your head grows and what not or any of that technical stuff but whether we like it or not he's gonna be the HR king and has passed every physical he's been given...though it does look like hes losing muscel and gaining more fat and his HR's aren't going as far ever since the Balco thing went under investigation?? I doubt he ever gets charged just on the fact that he's never failed a drug test if indeed he did use roids!!

[Wes Mantooth]

i don't know man..i don't know all on how your head grows and what not or any of that technical stuff but whether we like it or not he's gonna be the HR king and has passed every physical he's been given...though it does look like hes losing muscel and gaining more fat and his HR's aren't going as far ever since the Balco thing went under investigation?? I doubt he ever gets charged just on the fact that he's never failed a drug test if indeed he did use roids!!

He has never been tested for HGH. I don't remember him ever passing a drug test either.

[Vegas_Bronco]

Who cares about the HR record and Bonds, I sure don't. Why is this record any more important than any other? It will all be short lived - A Rod will be the media's chosen one and next target, the 'clean one' to erase all mention of Bonds and is accomanying *

[maher_tyler]

Who cares about the HR record and Bonds, I sure don't. Why is this record any more important than any other? It will all be short lived - A Rod will be the media's chosen one and next target, the 'clean one' to erase all mention of Bonds and is accomanying *

As much as i don't like A-Rod it's true..already at 500!! Pujols is behind him.

[FloridaResident]

wow y'all racist for hating on Bond cuz hes black

*roll my eyes*

[spdirty]

come on Barry! You deserve it!

[Maximus]

such crap to see a man who was a stud on the field , a trailblazer , a class act , and had to go threw so much unfair treatment not brought on himself record get broken by a cheating , selfsevering @sshole who brings everything on himself ... your still the king hank

still hank's record ... next question ...

Josh Gibson is the King!

[MechanicalBull]

I find it funny how so many reports were saying he will get booed if he hits it away from SF. During the highlights of the HR you could see more people cheering than booing him in SD.

Michael Kay is so stupid on the Sports Reporters on espn. He just said that A-Rod will hit 900 HRs. So according to him A-Rod pretty much just passed the half way point and will play another 10-15 yrs and continue a pace of 40 home runs a year.

[Archie]

So... lots of stuff in the book "Game of Shadows" but one of the more interesting ones was this...

"Similarly, Bonds at ages 31-33 averaged a home run every 13.5 at bats. But from age 34 onward -- when he allegedly started using performance-enhancing drugs -- Bonds has averaged one home run per 8.5 at bats, an unprecedented surge"

This, for me was the most compelling. When someone defies all of baseball history in not only rising in old age instead of falling but rising at a rate that is unprecedented at any age.... then something is awry.

Bonds is a cheater... plain and simple. He could have been one of the greatest players of all time and probably very legitimately #3 all time on the HR list without cheating. But - instead, he preferred the astrisk.

[Hogan11]

I really don't care much about Bonds breaking the record.

What will be interesting is to see what kind of reception will go on when he does it because I can guarentee you all the guy who breaks Barry's record (could be A Rod here and fairly soon if he keeps up his pace) will have three times the fanfare & hoopla. I can almost hear it now...."restoring honesty and dignity to the record books!"

[PatsWin2002]

This is A-Rod's sole chance to be loved, IMO. For once, everyone would be rooting for him.

[Rock Chalk]

Not me.

Im hedging my bets that Pujols takes the crown. In fact, thats who I will root for. Never a ****ing Yankee. Ever.

[Los Broncos]

I liked Barry before the talk of him being on the juice.

To me hes not very likable

Showing up pitchers, blaming the media for his problems.

Standing in the box after he crushes a ball

[Hogan11]

Showing up pitchers, blaming the media for his problems.

Standing in the box after he crushes a ball

Sounds like the quintessential ESPN Superstar to me.

[RhymesayersDU]

Not me.

Im hedging my bets that Pujols takes the crown. In fact, thats who I will root for. Never a ****ing Yankee. Ever.

Well, if your only beef against A-Rod is that he's a Yankee, chances are he won't be after the season ends.

[CBF1]

How about him here


Okay, now to be serious. How can you look at this picture and claim steriod abuse..... Then take a look at 1/2 of the Denver Bronco players pictures and tell me there is any difference, Well maybe the only difference is that some of the Bronco players are 30-50lbs heavier?

You can not have it both ways, that is unless you are a hypocrite. :strong:

[CBF1]

i don't know man..i don't know all on how your head grows and what not or any of that technical stuff but whether we like it or not he's gonna be the HR king and has passed every physical he's been given...though it does look like hes losing muscel and gaining more fat and his HR's aren't going as far ever since the Balco thing went under investigation?? I doubt he ever gets charged just on the fact that he's never failed a drug test if indeed he did use roids!!

What gets me is that Yoakums agruement on Bonds is his "Hat size" changing 2 sizes.

I dare you to find for everyone here Barry's "Hat size" from his rookie season to his "hat size" now. I know you cant, but you listen to someone elses recycled garble and repeat it over and over until you think it is fact.

[Wes Mantooth]

What gets me is that Yoakums agruement on Bonds is his "Hat size" changing 2 sizes.

I dare you to find for everyone here Barry's "Hat size" from his rookie season to his "hat size" now. I know you cant, but you listen to someone elses recycled garble and repeat it over and over until you think it is fact.

http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660200642,00.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1294295/posts
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18629617/site/newsweek/
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/orl-ed25307jul25,0,4597765.story

do you need more? Plenty of pages on this crap. Do I win a prize? Oh, sorry I left out that his feet have also grown.

[Wes Mantooth]

What gets me is that Yoakums agruement on Bonds is his "Hat size" changing 2 sizes.

I dare you to find for everyone here Barry's "Hat size" from his rookie season to his "hat size" now. I know you cant, but you listen to someone elses recycled garble and repeat it over and over until you think it is fact.

You should try reading the newspaper every now and then.

This is the same thing that David Boston did. I may still have the issue of ESPN The Magazine. Things that stick out in that story were:

1. David Boston in 5 years had gone from about 205lbs to 245 of pure muscle mass
2. He had shown extreme skeletal growth: He had to customize his shoes because his ankle bones had grown out so much.
3. Would never eat a meal with the team (Chargers at the time); He only ate lunch in a private room with his personal trainer.

[Wes Mantooth]

Okay, now to be serious. How can you look at this picture and claim steriod abuse..... Then take a look at 1/2 of the Denver Bronco players pictures and tell me there is any difference, Well maybe the only difference is that some of the Bronco players are 30-50lbs heavier?

You can not have it both ways, that is unless you are a hypocrite. :strong:

Oh no, I completely agree and would suggest it is pretty wide spread. However, I am debating the rate of growth in adulthood AFTER you have finished growing. Some people are just bigger, leaner, etc.. than others, but no one without a disorder can physically continue to gain skeletal mass after they have quit growing in early adulthood.

[Vegas_Bronco]

http://www.karendecoster.com/blog/archives/steroids.bmp

I would assume that he needs to look like this before 'SOME' face reality.

[Spider]

Congrats Bonds .....Job well done

[Bronco LB 59]

Not me.

Im hedging my bets that Pujols takes the crown. In fact, thats who I will root for. Never a ****ing Yankee. Ever.

What if ARod goes to the Cubs?

[Wes Mantooth]

http://www.karendecoster.com/blog/archives/steroids.bmp

I would assume that he needs to look like this before 'SOME' face reality.

It just shocks me how uninformed people are about this stuff.

[Vegas_Bronco]

Here's a GOOD one...

[Los Broncos]

Here's a GOOD one...

He looks like a tard in that pic

[CBF1]

http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660200642,00.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1294295/posts
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18629617/site/newsweek/
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/orl-ed25307jul25,0,4597765.story

do you need more? Plenty of pages on this crap. Do I win a prize? Oh, sorry I left out that his feet have also grown.

Link one states: It's probably just a coincidence that one of the side effects of human growth hormone is believed to be growth of the cranium and extremities. Also claims hat size from 7 1/8 to 7 3/4

link 2 states:Posted on 12/04/2004 8:24:41 AM PST by TRY ONE
Anyone have Before/After Photos of Barry Bonds ---
One photo ~ 20 years ago when Barry was ~ 180 lbs with a hat size of ~ 7 1/2;
And a recent photo showing him ~ 260 lbs with a hat size of ~ 9 3/4;

link 3 states:His cap size has expanded from 7 1/8 to 7 1/4,

link 4 states:Mr. Bonds' rise as the most proficient home-run hitter of all time deserves an asterisk the size of his head, which by the way has grown one hat size over the years

So your proof, which by the way are not from doctors, yet sports writers from Barry Bonds haters such as yourself, Just read the articals and they are without a doubt haters. NOT ONE OF THEM TELL THE SAME STORY when it comes to hat size. They are all different, So this either tells me that all of the claims are the same "I heard it here" and the actual numbers got lost in the translation.

Now in link #4, they interviewed the equipment manager during the grand jury investigation he said (and he being the only other person other than Barry Bonds) that his hat size had grown 1 size and if you know hat sizing that is 1/8" of an inch. So it has been said that Barry had put on anywhere from 30-60lbs of muscle so 1/8th of an inch in the head while gaining up to 60's is nothing as far as any sort of proof would go.

Also for the record, My shoe size has gone from a 9.5 to 11 in the past 2 years and that is drug free training.

[CBF1]

Oh no, I completely agree and would suggest it is pretty wide spread. However, I am debating the rate of growth in adulthood AFTER you have finished growing. Some people are just bigger, leaner, etc.. than others, but no one without a disorder can physically continue to gain skeletal mass after they have quit growing in early adulthood.



Okay now.... So what is the differance I ask? One player used steriods to increase his size/recovery time to maintain a career or players that used steriods to GET to the pros and stay there?

This is my point, It seems that most want it both ways, You can't hate on one without hating on all. Should we put *************** after Denver's superbowl victories since Romo and others had used performance enhancing drugs?

[rbackfactory80]

Okay now.... So what is the differance I ask? One player used steriods to increase his size/recovery time to maintain a career or players that used steriods to GET to the pros and stay there?

This is my point, It seems that most want it both ways, You can't hate on one without hating on all. Should we put *************** after Denver's superbowl victories since Romo and others had used performance enhancing drugs?

:troll:

[Spider]

Okay now.... So what is the differance I ask? One player used steriods to increase his size/recovery time to maintain a career or players that used steriods to GET to the pros and stay there?

This is my point, It seems that most want it both ways, You can't hate on one without hating on all. Should we put *************** after Denver's superbowl victories since Romo and others had used performance enhancing drugs?

Romo was not on Drugs , Romo was just misunderstood is all........and as far as anyone is concerned Romo didnt become a drug addict thug until he joined the raiders ;D

[CBF1]

Romo was not on Drugs , Romo was just misunderstood is all........and as far as anyone is concerned Romo didnt become a drug addict thug until he joined the raiders ;D

Bro, you are on a rollLOL

[TexanBob]

I was hoping Bonds would break the record during a game ESPN couldn't televise. I am hoping they'll someday have a live interview with Bonds where Pedro Gomez begs Barry to sleep with him. You know Pedro wants it.

[Spider]

where Pedro Gomez begs Barry to sleep with him. You know Pedro wants it.

shocked you didnt ask for video ;D

[24champ]

I was hoping Bonds would break the record during a game ESPN couldn't televise. I am hoping they'll someday have a live interview with Bonds where Pedro Gomez begs Barry to sleep with him. You know Pedro wants it.

Maybe Joe Morgan might want to make it a three-some?

It is the San Francisco way! LOL

[gunns]

such crap to see a man who was a stud on the field , a trailblazer , a class act , and had to go threw so much unfair treatment not brought on himself record get broken by a cheating , selfsevering @sshole who brings everything on himself ... your still the king hank

still hank's record ... next question ...

Absolutely! :thumbsup:

[gunns]

Link one states: It's probably just a coincidence that one of the side effects of human growth hormone is believed to be growth of the cranium and extremities. Also claims hat size from 7 1/8 to 7 3/4

link 2 states:Posted on 12/04/2004 8:24:41 AM PST by TRY ONE
Anyone have Before/After Photos of Barry Bonds ---
One photo ~ 20 years ago when Barry was ~ 180 lbs with a hat size of ~ 7 1/2;
And a recent photo showing him ~ 260 lbs with a hat size of ~ 9 3/4;

I think the point is the head is one part of the body that stops growing when you're a young child. The hat size would not increase on the top

link 3 states:His cap size has expanded from 7 1/8 to 7 1/4,

link 4 states:Mr. Bonds' rise as the most proficient home-run hitter of all time deserves an asterisk the size of his head, which by the way has grown one hat size over the years

So your proof, which by the way are not from doctors, yet sports writers from Barry Bonds haters such as yourself, Just read the articals and they are without a doubt haters. NOT ONE OF THEM TELL THE SAME STORY when it comes to hat size. They are all different, So this either tells me that all of the claims are the same "I heard it here" and the actual numbers got lost in the translation.

Now in link #4, they interviewed the equipment manager during the grand jury investigation he said (and he being the only other person other than Barry Bonds) that his hat size had grown 1 size and if you know hat sizing that is 1/8" of an inch. So it has been said that Barry had put on anywhere from 30-60lbs of muscle so 1/8th of an inch in the head while gaining up to 60's is nothing as far as any sort of proof would go.

Also for the record, My shoe size has gone from a 9.5 to 11 in the past 2 years and that is drug free training.

I think the point is that a person's head has stopped growing when you are young. 80% of the growth is in the first two years. A person's head is one part of the body that doesn't change size. It may look bigger with different hairstyles or the change in the shape of the face but it doesn't grow unless by disease or medicinally. A hat size is not going to change unless a person possibly has more hair. I don't think that's the case here.

[Wes Mantooth]

Okay now.... So what is the differance I ask? One player used steriods to increase his size/recovery time to maintain a career or players that used steriods to GET to the pros and stay there?

This is my point, It seems that most want it both ways, You can't hate on one without hating on all. Should we put *************** after Denver's superbowl victories since Romo and others had used performance enhancing drugs?

First off, I stated that they need to continue to tighten the screws down on this and get tougher. I don't think it is right that Romo got away with it. The NFL is pretty progressive on cracking down on this stuff, the MLB has not until the US Senate got involved to address some type of drug policy.

I don't think cheating should be tolerated on our team or any other.

[Spider]

First off, I stated that they need to continue to tighten the screws down on this and get tougher. I don't think it is right that Romo got away with it. The NFL is pretty progressive on cracking down on this stuff, the MLB has not until the US Senate got involved to address some type of drug policy.

I don't think cheating should be tolerated on our team or any other.

if you are not cheating you are not trying .......
if was in Bonds shoes I would have done exactly what he has done , or Romo ....any of em ......I did use roids when I was younger , wasnt that big of a deal back then ......
Just cause a guy is juicing doesnt mean he is on easy street , he still has to work his ass off , he just gets to the end alot faster , but no roids will out do natural talent ...

[Wes Mantooth]

Link one states: It's probably just a coincidence that one of the side effects of human growth hormone is believed to be growth of the cranium and extremities. Also claims hat size from 7 1/8 to 7 3/4

link 2 states:Posted on 12/04/2004 8:24:41 AM PST by TRY ONE
Anyone have Before/After Photos of Barry Bonds ---
One photo ~ 20 years ago when Barry was ~ 180 lbs with a hat size of ~ 7 1/2;
And a recent photo showing him ~ 260 lbs with a hat size of ~ 9 3/4;

link 3 states:His cap size has expanded from 7 1/8 to 7 1/4,

link 4 states:Mr. Bonds' rise as the most proficient home-run hitter of all time deserves an asterisk the size of his head, which by the way has grown one hat size over the years

So your proof, which by the way are not from doctors, yet sports writers from Barry Bonds haters such as yourself, Just read the articals and they are without a doubt haters. NOT ONE OF THEM TELL THE SAME STORY when it comes to hat size. They are all different, So this either tells me that all of the claims are the same "I heard it here" and the actual numbers got lost in the translation.

Now in link #4, they interviewed the equipment manager during the grand jury investigation he said (and he being the only other person other than Barry Bonds) that his hat size had grown 1 size and if you know hat sizing that is 1/8" of an inch. So it has been said that Barry had put on anywhere from 30-60lbs of muscle so 1/8th of an inch in the head while gaining up to 60's is nothing as far as any sort of proof would go.

Also for the record, My shoe size has gone from a 9.5 to 11 in the past 2 years and that is drug free training.

Are you aware that there is a grand jury trying to indict Bonds right now for this stuff? So I am sorry I don't have there testimony, and I am also sorry that I do not have all the facts yet and have to rely on sports writers.

Do you trust Bob

[Wes Mantooth]

Link one states: It's probably just a coincidence that one of the side effects of human growth hormone is believed to be growth of the cranium and extremities. Also claims hat size from 7 1/8 to 7 3/4

link 2 states:Posted on 12/04/2004 8:24:41 AM PST by TRY ONE
Anyone have Before/After Photos of Barry Bonds ---
One photo ~ 20 years ago when Barry was ~ 180 lbs with a hat size of ~ 7 1/2;
And a recent photo showing him ~ 260 lbs with a hat size of ~ 9 3/4;

link 3 states:His cap size has expanded from 7 1/8 to 7 1/4,

link 4 states:Mr. Bonds' rise as the most proficient home-run hitter of all time deserves an asterisk the size of his head, which by the way has grown one hat size over the years

So your proof, which by the way are not from doctors, yet sports writers from Barry Bonds haters such as yourself, Just read the articals and they are without a doubt haters. NOT ONE OF THEM TELL THE SAME STORY when it comes to hat size. They are all different, So this either tells me that all of the claims are the same "I heard it here" and the actual numbers got lost in the translation.

Now in link #4, they interviewed the equipment manager during the grand jury investigation he said (and he being the only other person other than Barry Bonds) that his hat size had grown 1 size and if you know hat sizing that is 1/8" of an inch. So it has been said that Barry had put on anywhere from 30-60lbs of muscle so 1/8th of an inch in the head while gaining up to 60's is nothing as far as any sort of proof would go.

Also for the record, My shoe size has gone from a 9.5 to 11 in the past 2 years and that is drug free training.

Are you aware that there is a grand jury trying to indict Bonds right now for this stuff? So I am sorry I don't have there testimony, and I am also sorry that I do not have all the facts yet and have to rely on sports writers.

Now onto your shoe size are you about 26 or under? If you are good. If not, consult your doctor, I think you may have a problem.

[phillybroncosnut]

Not me.

Im hedging my bets that Pujols takes the crown. In fact, thats who I will root for. Never a ****ing Yankee. Ever.

I hate the Yankees too but, the greatest HR hitter to this day, and probably of all time will be Babe Ruth. He is the HR King. Did he hit the most HR's ever? No. Did he hit the most in one season? No. However, when Babe was hitting 40-50 HR's in a year, he was out homering other teams entire rosters. You could have taken 10 teams back then, added up all their HR's and it still wouldn't have equaled Babe's HR total for that season. That is an absolute HR King.

So, How long until A-Rod breaks Henry Aarons record of 755 HR's? Aarons record will fall one day, probably in our lifetime. Does Griffey have a chance? I like Griffey. hell of a guy off the field. It's ashame he was injured alot recently. If he can stick around another 5 years, he might have a slim chance. I hope I see someone break Aarons record. That will be a fun time. I figure we have to wait another 6-8 years though.

[CBF1]

Newsflash....

Barry Bonds will break the record in the next couple of weeks or so. Just because you do not like the circumstances of Barry Bonds does not mean he is not passing Aaron.

[phillybroncosnut]

Newsflash....

Barry Bonds will break the record in the next couple of weeks or so. Just because you do not like the circumstances of Barry Bonds does not mean he is not passing Aaron.


In my book he aint. I'm not in the minority either. Elias can put whatever they want in their book. To me, Barry is just another 400 homerun hitter.

[CBF1]

In my book he aint. I'm not in the minority either. Elias can put whatever they want in their book. To me, Barry is just another 400 homerun hitter.

I know what you mean.... I think George Bush is a $hitty president, So he does not count as my commander and chief in my book.Hilarious!

[Atlas]

Bonds is an asshole but I don't blame him for using steroids. 70% of the players that have been caught using roids are pitchers. Everyone is using them it's just part of the game today. If you want to blame anyone blame Selig and the rest of the owners and the players union. They knew it was going on and they turned a blind eye.

I hear Canseco is coming out with another book outing A Rod. Face it everyone in baseball today is doing something along those lines. It's just a sign of the times. Just put an "*" by every record that has been set in the last 20 years.

[CBF1]

ATLAS*************************************

Your posts are juiced brother ROFL!

[Malcontent]

Bonds is an a-hole but I don't blame him for using steroids. 70% of the players that have been caught using roids are pitchers. Everyone is using them it's just part of the game today. If you want to blame anyone blame Selig and the rest of the owners and the players union. They knew it was going on and they turned a blind eye.

I hear Canseco is coming out with another book outing A Rod. Face it everyone in baseball today is doing something along those lines. It's just a sign of the times. Just put an "*" by every record that has been set in the last 20 years.

Amen bro. I miss your avatar.

[Atlas]

Amen bro. I miss your avatar.


All is not lost
http://www.freewebs.com/speardog/allaboutkylasomenudity.htm

[Malcontent]

All is not lost
http://www.freewebs.com/speardog/allaboutkylasomenudity.htm


OUI? I didn't think they still printed that. Ohh the good ole days. Kyla Rocks!

[broncsyanks]

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they should do it. they did it to maris why not him?

[24champ]

somebody gets it right.

I stared. But I did not speak.

I marveled. But I did not applaud.

Barry Bonds mashed a fastball deep into the night in San Diego, dropping his bat in self-congratulatory admiration, followed by what could be construed as a look of disdain for his detractors. They could note, with more than a little obligatory irony, that the dramatic home run portrait offered picture-perfect symmetry: Clay Hensley, the former San Francisco Giants property who served up the slice of history, turned up dirty for steroids while pitching in the minors.

As I watched on TV as Bonds finally hit the record-tying 755th round-tripper, I felt an overwhelming sense of … indifference.

If Bud clapped, I blinked.

If America cheered, I feel sorry for all of us.

It doesn't make Bonds' predecessor any less of a player, or certainly a man, but the record is devalued — now and perhaps forever. That makes the game less; it makes us less because of what we judge acceptable.


The lords of the game, the players and their powerful union, should hang their heads. Bonds certainly is not the only player who used new-age chemistry, but he is the poster child for the game's now-acknowledged, and sordid, steroids era of two decades.

To this day, baseball, still fearful of the truth, has difficulty with the controversial subject: "Steroids don't make great athletes — they destroy them," intones the deadly serious voice on an MLB public service ad.

Steroids can make good athletes great ones, or great ones nearly unconquerable — illegally and with possible grave health consequences. For too long, baseball didn't care enough to do anything about the game's scourge and, when it did, its initial effort was weak.

Bonds, with palpable relief, told the horde of reporters afterward, "The hardest part is over now."

Really? For who?

Henry Aaron?

Babe Ruth's family?

MLB? George Mitchell?

For young, impressionable minds?

What about your own, Barry? What will you tell Nikolai when he starts asking hard, informed questions?

And Greg Anderson. Is it over for your loyal stooge, the anabolic steroids peddler, who sits in prison for refusing to testify before a grand jury investigating you for possible perjury and tax fraud?

And the game. Is it over for her?

This is what I think: It never will be over.

Because the lying is not over. May never be.

This isn't about the media's often-icy relationship with a prickly prima donna. Or the color of skin.

This is about the sanctity of something meaningful.

Now, maybe a lot of people don't really care anymore. Judging by the fans Saturday, it makes me wonder. There exists a serious disconnect when someone under serious scrutiny for possibly breaking the law — or baseball's unwritten code — is treated like a hero.

Bonds is not alone, not by a tape-measure shot. Perhaps that's why some aren't so worked up, why the cheers of so many San Diegans drowned the derision of a minority holding asterisk signs. Perhaps the doubters conclude, with some merit, that if pitchers were "juiced," then everything is square on the diamond.

Unfortunately, that doesn't account for (skewed) historical perspective. Some baseball greats have expressed concern over the legitimacy of the game's undeniably blighted record books, and rightly so. Perhaps that is why Bonds felt compelled Saturday to implore that, "We all need to stick together, regardless. From the earlier generations (until) now, we're a fraternity."

And fraternity brothers don't snitch, right?

Sorry, Bonds was a user.

That becomes all but eradicated by apologists, i.e., former or current players. The oft-repeated phrase that Bonds is innocent until proven guilty is necessary — for our legal system. Outside a court of law, common sense can prevail, along with a mound of circumstantial evidence.

I guess the obvious, dramatic changes in Bonds' physique and the increase in his power numbers, at an advancing age, merely are coincidental, particularly during a period of time when some of the game's most dominating power hitters were "juiced."

That Bonds used steroids is not even debatable. He claims his buddy, Anderson, didn't tell him the substances were testosterone and human growth hormone. Anderson, an ex-bodybuilder, told investigators he received the drugs from AIDS patients' prescriptions. Among his clients were Jason Giambi, Gary Sheffield and at least four of Bonds' former Giants teammates. According to a judge, Anderson has refused to answer whether he injected Bonds with steroids.

If Bonds' defenders wish to actually believe that he didn't know what he was ingesting, feel free to further bury your heads deep into the sands of gullibility.

Maybe Bonds is so special, he didn't need help.

Or, maybe you believe as I do: He is lying.

If so, that makes Barry Lamar Bonds no better than his peers. And, compared with Mr. Aaron, one could argue it makes him the far lesser of two baseball gods.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2007-08-05-saraceno-bonds_N.htm

[Garcia Bronco]

Most of baseball has been using performance enhancing drugs since the 60's. So what Bonds has done is right in line with how baseball has conducted itself for half a century. Baseball has gotten exactly what it deserves.

[CBF1]

Most of baseball has been using performance enhancing drugs since the 60's. So what Bonds has done is right in line with how baseball has conducted itself for half a century. Baseball has gotten exactly what it deserves.

Quoted and repped for truth ^5