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gunns
08-03-2007, 02:51 PM
I saw a poll the other day that Americans #1 issue, besides Iraq, was healthcare. "we are the envy of the world when it comes to health care technology." A lot of people here also envy that technology that they can't touch. And other nations? Let's start worrying about ourselves first for a change.


Romney Confronted By Waitress During Campaign Stop
By Doug Ware - KUTV.com
(KUTV) CONCORD, N.H. - Presidential contender Mitt Romney visited a restaurant in the Atlantic Northeast on Thursday, during which he was confronted by a frustrated waitress who berated the former Massachusetts governor about health care.

Romney, who currently holds a significant amount of support in recent polls, visited the diner during the lunch hour on Thursday. After walking in, he apologized for interrupting patrons' lunches before going into a discussion about his plans if he were elected president.

"Despite what Michael Moore said, we are the envy of the world when it comes to health care technology. And we can reach out and help other nations," he said.

During the speech, Michele Griffin, a waitress at the Red Arrow Diner, spoke up and asked Romney, "What about our needs? We are the USA... come on!"

Romney, appearing caught off guard, tried to continue his rhetoric but eventually addressed the waitresses concerns.

"Before you leave, Miss... with regard to our nation, one of the things I'm most proud of [in Massachusetts] is putting in a plan that gives everyone health insurance," Romney answered.

"We pay over $1,000 a month in insurance," the waitress retorted. "And then we have co-payments to go to the doctors, $50 a visit. And then you have a co-payment on your prescriptions."

Griffin then went after Romney regarding his personal health care coverage.

"Can you tell me how much your co-payment is for prescriptions?"

"Yes, $10 for each prescription," Romney answered.

"That's very nice," Griffin snapped. To which Romney replied, "Yes... what are yours?"

The waitress then explained that she has two daughters with health problems and that one was recently taken out of school and no longer has health care.

"Well, one of the things I think is important to do... is to find a way to get health insurance to all of our citizens," Romney said.

In the middle of his reply, the waitress spoke up again, asking, "But how do your citizens pay for all the care?"

"You know, if you'd like me to answer the question, I will," Romney shot back. He then explained that in Massachusetts, he constructed a program in which the government uses citizens' taxes to help pay for private insurance coverage -- rather than use the money to simply give away free care at medical facilities. As a result, residents have a choice of several insurance companies and plans to choose from.

"And you think you can do this?" the waitress asked.

"We did this [in Massachusetts]," Romney answered. "If I get lucky enough to be elected president, I'm not going to just sit back and talk about problems. We're actually going to do something about it."

Following the exchange, Griffin expressed her frustration with the entire poilitical process and said she wishes politicians could live in her shoes.

"Maybe they should live in our shoes... just to see how it is. It's not pretty," she said. "I'm just so sick of the nice clothes, all these fancy cars. They walk around like (pauses)... you know?"

"He was in here for what? Over an hour? That's money off my table," Griffin said.

Bronco Bob
08-03-2007, 11:48 PM
It's always funny to see politicians confront real people and become
totally befuddled because their talking points didn't include an
answer to a real question. Now you know why Bush has his
audiences so carefully screened in advance.

gunns
08-04-2007, 01:03 AM
It's always funny to see politicians confront real people and become
totally befuddled because their talking points didn't include an
answer to a real question. Now you know why Bush has his
audiences so carefully screened in advance.

It's just what she said, they don't understand what the everyday person goes thru. They think they do because someone told them, but they don't truly know what it's like unless they've experienced it. I guarantee you if one of Bush's daughters got a disease that could possibly be cured by a discovery from stem cell research it would be fully implemented immediately. Amazing what walking in someone else's shoes will do to change a mind.

Bob
08-04-2007, 01:43 AM
So are you upset with Romney's position, which on this issue, appears to be left of center? Or is that he is a "Repuklican," and of nessessity must be out of touch with the little person?

I wonder honestly if he could have said anything to this person which would have resonated?

Spider
08-04-2007, 02:06 AM
So are you upset with Romney's position, which on this issue, appears to be left of center? Or is that he is a "Repuklican," and of nessessity must be out of touch with the little person?

I wonder honestly if he could have said anything to this person which would have resonated?

The problem Romneys plan doesnt address the real problem ..... the real problem is the insurance companies saying yes or no to treatment depending on the cost ...
Doctors have to talk to some bean counter in a cubical somewhere before he can treat a person with a serious illness .......
His plan does nothing to offset MalPractice insurance ........

mosca
08-04-2007, 02:10 AM
"Maybe they should live in our shoes... just to see how it is. It's not pretty," she said. "I'm just so sick of the nice clothes, all these fancy cars. They walk around like (pauses)... you know?"

"He was in here for what? Over an hour? That's money off my table," Griffin said.
Right on ... I wonder how many people in that diner really wanted to hear Romney talk. I'd guess the owner must've invited him in there.

BroncoBuff
08-04-2007, 02:51 AM
The problem Romneys plan doesnt address the real problem ..... the real problem is the insurance companies saying yes or no to treatment depending on the cost ....
Yes ... his plan embraces private insurors, and therefore continues the profit aspect that all private companies must address. Generally I applaud privatization and Ron Paul-like smaller government. But certain very important universal needs, like defense, police, highway and road maintenence, and yes - health care - are best administered governmentally so as to BYPASS the profit part.