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dragondawg
07-31-2007, 03:10 AM
Cutler's courage in pocket no concern
Vanderbilt product used to taking hits, but Broncos need QB to stay healthy
By Mike Klis
Denver Post Staff Writer

Whether Jay Cutler can lead a team through the regular season and into the playoffs, no one knows.

There is one characteristic to his quarterback play already proven: The kid can take a hit. Big as quarterbacks go at 6-feet-3 and 233 pounds, Cutler needed every pound to survive the college shellacking he took while dropping back behind an undersized Vanderbilt line while playing inside the mighty Southeastern Conference. Yet Cutler never missed a start, making 45 in a row.

He took 13 sacks in five games for the Broncos last season. Some of the hits were ferocious, but Cutler showed in the season finale against San Francisco he could get knocked woozy and get back up.

"I'm willing to take a shot every once in a while to get a big gain, to make a big throw," Cutler said. "That's part of the game. You're not back there with flags on. You learn. Sometimes, I'll need to check it down. But I like to make throws down the field and if that means taking a few shots, that's part of it."

Courage is great, but keeping Cutler healthy may be vital to the Broncos' hopes this year. During their training camp workout Monday morning at Dove Valley, the Broncos had Cutler work extensively on stepping up into the pocket, or sliding to the side, while keeping his eyes downfield.

He performed the task well, completing several short to intermediate passes to tight ends and receivers on crossing routes.

"Jay's played well so far," said Mike Heimer- dinger, the Broncos' top offensive assistant.

Parsons has options

Although third-string quarterback Preston Parsons has been on NFL rosters for parts of six seasons, he recently was informed he has another year of practice-squad eligibility.

"I came out in the same draft as Patrick (Ramsey), so it's about time for me to do something," Parsons said.

Ramsey, a first-round draft pick in 2002, is considered an NFL veteran. Parsons, signed as an undrafted free agent in 2002 out of Northern Arizona, often is seen as an inexperienced quarterback with potential.

The difference? Parsons has yet to take his first NFL snap. He was the Arizona Cardinals' third-string quarterback for all 16 games in 2003 and 2004, but never appeared in a game. He then was cut by Arizona in 2004 and Houston in 2005, before spending last season on the Broncos' practice squad.

Never playing a down is one reason he continues to have practice-squad eligibility. His situation allows the Broncos the luxury of keeping three quarterbacks while taking up only two roster spots.

"It's nice to have in my back pocket, but I'm not planning on it," Parsons said. "My plan is to be one of the backups here."

Footnotes

A strong hint that Todd Sauerbrun holds the edge over incumbent Paul Ernster as the Broncos' punter came while Jason Elam lined up for a field goal Monday. Sauerbrun was the primary holder for Elam, although Cutler also took long snaps from Mike Leach. Would Sauerbrun be holding if he wasn't considered the top punter? "Holding can only help," Sauerbrun said. ...

A superior blocker, former Colorado State star Cecil Sapp began camp last year as the No. 1 fullback ahead of Kyle Johnson. But then Sapp battled injuries, and in this year's camp he continues to rotate with Mike Bell as the No. 2 tailback. Is Sapp's ability to give Cutler extra protection the reason he is competing with Bell? "He'll be good at pass blocking, but we put him back there because of his running skills," Heimerdinger said.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_6503335

OrangeShadow
07-31-2007, 07:19 AM
he showed in arizona he can put the ball on the money even when hes going to get hit

CHANGSTER
07-31-2007, 07:42 AM
Wow, Surprised Parson has PS eligibility left. Sounds good, I read some of ya'll speculating keeping 3 qb's cause of Ramsey being new to the system, guess theirs no need to waste a roster spot now.

dragondawg
07-31-2007, 08:31 AM
cutler always seems to throw nice bombs in Arizona, so guess where the superbowl is this year?

Odysseus
07-31-2007, 09:19 AM
cutler always seems to throw nice bombs in Arizona, so guess where the superbowl is this year?

You are appreciated. :notworthy

footstepsfrom#27
07-31-2007, 09:34 AM
"I came out in the same draft as Patrick (Ramsey), so it's about time for me to do something," Parsons said.
How 'bout playing the lead in the next Frankenstein flick? Dude is fugly...;D

dragondawg
07-31-2007, 09:35 AM
i think he should ask for a retake for his bronco picture

Smiling Assassin27
07-31-2007, 10:17 AM
There's a fine line between courageous and stupid and every QB walks it. Aikman and Manning took some hellacious shots in their first couple of years because they stood in there too long or held the ball too long. Let's hope it takes considerably less time for Cutler to find that line as our backups are marginal at best.

orange 4 life
07-31-2007, 10:57 AM
i didnt get a chance to read the whole article yet, but let me be the 1st to say "i dont want him to take any hits!!!"

hopefully he learned something from watching plummer.
obviously cutlers arm strength allows him to make throws that jake couldnt, but while we all talk about cutler as being a traditional "pocker passer", the fact is that the kid has some wheels. he CAN take off and run, and he can learn to more elusive in the pocket.
here's to hoping he DOESNT take alot of hits.

Taco John
07-31-2007, 11:21 AM
The ability to stand in the pocket and take a hit while delivering the ball to the perfect spot on the field is something that neither Griese, nor Plummer could offer us -- at least with any consistency.

If Cutler can truly provide this, that will be huge for us.

vancejohnson82
07-31-2007, 11:25 AM
he proved this when he rolled left, heaved the ball to Walker and took a bruising hit from a D-lineman against Arizona

Spider
07-31-2007, 11:31 AM
Biggest Problem I see with Ramsey is , he throws the football like it was a spear......

baja
07-31-2007, 11:31 AM
My single biggest concern going into this season is Cutler avoiding injury. Teams are going to focus on taking him out and he needs to be prepared for this.

skpac1001
07-31-2007, 11:37 AM
He has already got one concussion in 5 games playing time. If he gets another one anytime soon then his career will be considerably shortened. Check down Jay, check down!

dragondawg
07-31-2007, 01:10 PM
don't be like troy aikman

orange 4 life
07-31-2007, 06:46 PM
The ability to stand in the pocket and take a hit while delivering the ball to the perfect spot on the field is something that neither Griese, nor Plummer could offer us -- at least with any consistency.

If Cutler can truly provide this, that will be huge for us.

yes and no taco.

griese stood there (and was generally very accurate on the short to mid routes) and took the hit, but he got hurt WAY too often.

plummer was a wizard getting out of traffic (and throwing on the run), but didnt have the cannon or pocket presence to stand in and get it downfield.

with cutler, i dont doubt that he has the courage to stand in, take the hit, AND deliver the ball on a rope.
what i doubt is whether or not his body can take that kind of punishment.

elway COULD stand in there and take the hit, and sometimes did, however more than not he'd get out of the way and STILL get the ball downfield.
its still early, but jay tends to hang in there TOO long and take some WICKED hits that arent necessary.

look, we need this guy healthy, and getting drilled because you have the "courage" to take a hit isnt the right way. make the throw before you get hit, and (at least most of the time) if youre gonna take a big shot, get out and run. create.
there is a happy medium.

baja
07-31-2007, 07:41 PM
yes and no taco.

griese stood there (and was generally very accurate on the short to mid routes) and took the hit, but he got hurt WAY too often.

plummer was a wizard getting out of traffic (and throwing on the run), but didnt have the cannon or pocket presence to stand in and get it downfield.

with cutler, i dont doubt that he has the courage to stand in, take the hit, AND deliver the ball on a rope.
what i doubt is whether or not his body can take that kind of punishment.

elway COULD stand in there and take the hit, and sometimes did, however more than not he'd get out of the way and STILL get the ball downfield.
its still early, but jay tends to hang in there TOO long and take some WICKED hits that arent necessary.

look, we need this guy healthy, and getting drilled because you have the "courage" to take a hit isnt the right way. make the throw before you get hit, and (at least most of the time) if youre gonna take a big shot, get out and run. create.
there is a happy medium.

I agree! The hits in the NFL are a little more intense than they were at Vandi.

orange 4 life
07-31-2007, 07:45 PM
I agree! The hits in the NFL are a little more intense than they were at Vandi.

thats what scares me.

i DESPERATELY want this guy to be the face of colorado for the next 10+ years, and its hard to see that happening if he's getting drilled every game.