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Rigs11
07-27-2007, 12:11 PM
Anybody watch this documentary?Really shows the cruelty of humans as a whole. Before bringing your 'tough guy' posts watch it. it's free.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1282796533661048967
TheReverend
07-27-2007, 12:25 PM
more importantly, who's the girl in your sig?
NYBronco
07-27-2007, 12:27 PM
I watched the first ten minutes and chose to stop so I would not view the cruelty that we place on the other non human inhabitants of this earth.
Laugh all you want at my behaviour but when the wooly bears are out in the fall I try to avoid running them over when I drive. My kids laugh at me.
Rigs11
07-27-2007, 12:33 PM
more importantly, who's the girl in your sig?
that's the fantastic jessica alba:notworthy
TheReverend
07-27-2007, 01:29 PM
that's the fantastic jessica alba:notworthy
thought so. pic was too small to be sure. well, on with my life.
Atlas
07-27-2007, 01:41 PM
we are a terrible species for sure.
TailgateNut
07-27-2007, 01:55 PM
Anybody watch this documentary?Really shows the cruelty of humans as a whole. Before bringing your 'tough guy' posts watch it. it's free.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1282796533661048967
Absolutely sickening!
bronco militia
07-27-2007, 02:20 PM
oh boo hoo!
move this **** off the main page
Rigs11
07-27-2007, 03:17 PM
oh boo hoo!
move this **** off the main page
it's offseason. Don't click on it coolio
Los Broncos
07-27-2007, 03:24 PM
This vid is brutal
People=****
bronco militia
07-27-2007, 04:04 PM
speak for yourself
Los Broncos
07-27-2007, 04:08 PM
I wouldn't try to speak for you.
bronco militia
07-27-2007, 04:14 PM
People=****
I wouldn't try to speak for you.
you're trying
Rigs11
07-27-2007, 04:18 PM
I wouldn't try to speak for you.
yeah you know cuz killing and incompassion make you a tough guyROFL!
Los Broncos
07-27-2007, 04:29 PM
you're trying
If it doesn't apply to you then why are you posting?
Los Broncos
07-27-2007, 04:30 PM
yeah you know cuz killing and incompassion make you a tough guyROFL!
Im no where near a tough guy.
snowspot66
07-27-2007, 04:31 PM
Rigs what does anything he said have to do with being a tough guy?
Yeah, it sucks, name a better way, I'm still gonna eat meat anyway.
I'm not gonna throw humanity under the bus. Not for a video full of the absolute worst examples they could find filled with flowery words and quotes intending to make the viewer ashamed of themselves. I'm not gonna throw out mathematics, art, architecture, science and all the good and amazing things humans have done. Humanity doesn't suck, it isn't evil, it merely is what it is. A balance of good and bad.
From a purely production standpoint that was one of the ****tiest proffesional narrations I've ever heard in a documentary. It sounded like it was written and narrated by a highschool kid.
Rigs11
07-27-2007, 04:46 PM
Rigs what does anything he said have to do with being a tough guy?
Yeah, it sucks, name a better way, I'm still gonna eat meat anyway.
I'm not gonna throw humanity under the bus. Not for a video full of the absolute worst examples they could find filled with flowery words and quotes intending to make the viewer ashamed of themselves. I'm not gonna throw out mathematics, art, architecture, science and all the good and amazing things humans have done. Humanity doesn't suck, it isn't evil, it merely is what it is. A balance of good and bad.
From a purely production standpoint that was one of the ****tiest proffesional narrations I've ever heard in a documentary. It sounded like it was written and narrated by a highschool kid.
Do what you will. It's your conscience. A better way? don't eat it. Plain and simple. Everything from cruelty to incredible pollution to the disappearance of the amazon are all occuring so you can have your precious meat. these atrocities go on every day in this country,they are not the worst examples, you just turn a blind eye.the meat industry is very poorly regulated by the fda, hence all the recalls and ecoli cases. there is no way for them to be at every plant to make sure that animals aren't slaughtered alive.it' funny that you point out mathematics, art, architecture, and science. the film's point exactly, how humans can be so smart and yet so brutal and incompassionate.
Rigs11
07-27-2007, 04:47 PM
Im no where near a tough guy.
i was referring to militia
bronco militia
07-27-2007, 04:48 PM
i was referring to militia
I'm no tough guy, and I'm just smart enough to see through the bull****
Rigs11
07-27-2007, 04:54 PM
I'm no tough guy, and I'm just smart enough to see through the bull****
what bull****? there was no special effects in that video. please elaborate.
bronco militia
07-27-2007, 05:01 PM
what bull****? there was no special effects in that video. please elaborate.
the emotional reaction the film is supposed to create.
anyway, good luck with the thread and all
I'm out
cutthemdown
07-27-2007, 05:06 PM
I watched a little of it but got the point pretty quick. The world can be both a beautifull or desgusting place. How people choose to look at it says a lot about them. I always like how Ann Rice described the word. A Savage Garden filled with both the beautifull and the ugly. You will never divide the two. One can't exist without the other.
Paladin
07-27-2007, 05:38 PM
That there is what them right wing christian nutjobs say is the result of what it say in the Bible: Man has dominion over all other living things.
'Cept maybe Sharks, Whales, Rattlers, and enraged Pit Bulls.....
Garcia Bronco
07-27-2007, 05:42 PM
There is nothing wrong with using animals as a resource. That includes wearing them and eating them...just maybe not in that order. We would be fools not to. Further more...the comparsion and definitions this piece trys to make are ridiculous. I eat animals so its like I am in the Klu Klux Klan. Dumb crap IMO
cutthemdown
07-27-2007, 05:58 PM
Leather is just such a usefull resourse and I can't lie I like a good hunk of animal flesh.
snowspot66
07-27-2007, 07:26 PM
.it' funny that you point out mathematics, art, architecture, and science. the film's point exactly, how humans can be so smart and yet so brutal and incompassionate.
We're the only species on Earth even capable of compassion yet were supposed to be blamed and ashamed if we can't/don't always exercise it to our utmost ability, to the point of being damaging to our own interests? We're supposed to be looking out for the animals interests according to the film but a species can't survive if in the end it doesn't look out for itself first and most importantly. Humans first, animals second and that has nothing to do with intelligence or right of might. We can't survive without animals and a lot of them and the only way to have a lot of them may not be in the most "humane" way but it has to be done. Our responsibility in all of this is proper management so we don't reduce them to extinction. Their species survives, our species survives, in this argument and on this scale it isn't about the individual.
Odysseus
07-27-2007, 07:35 PM
There is nothing wrong with using animals as a resource. That includes wearing them and eating them...just maybe not in that order. We would be fools not to. Further more...the comparsion and definitions this piece trys to make are ridiculous. I eat animals so its like I am in the Klu Klux Klan. Dumb crap IMO
Dude, Just admit it. You are a Cannibal! I bet if a plane delayed in La Guardia too long you'd be the first one saying "It's time to draw straws people! We ALL don't have to die!" LOL
skunk
07-27-2007, 07:53 PM
my favorite species to eat is cows
edit:
whoa! i just saw a pelican eat a fish! what a barbariac species!
today i shall eat a pelican.
BroncoBuff
07-27-2007, 09:22 PM
that's the fantastic jessica alba:notworthy
... and apparently her two round plastic friends.
Tombstone RJ
07-27-2007, 10:41 PM
Very powerful stuff. This production makes some very valid points and is point blank true in the way we, as a species, treat other species on this planet.
Our cruelty to other Earthlings knows no bounds. We are a factory of consumers that process other sentient beings for our benefit. Yet, 99% of all humans choose to look away, and ignore our cruelty.
Fact is, if I had to process everthing I eat, I'd probably choose to grow veggies and harvest crops rather than kill an animal on a regular basis. But, we are so sheltered from our horrific slaughter houses that it's far too easy for you and me to not give it a second thought.
Also, what is unfathonable, IMHO, is our treatment of the vast majority of domesticated pets that we choose to keep as companions. We want pets to comfort us and make us feel good, yet we do so little for the suffering of our companions, and we allow the suffering to go on, again, with little thought about the long term health of so many of these fine companions. Very sad, but very true.
I don't have a problem with this film because I can face the ugly truth: I'm part of the reason so many animals are suffering. I do what I can in my own little way to keep my immediate campions comfortable but I don't do enough for all the other millions of animals that are kicked around, beaten, abused, warehoused, slaughtered, processed, tortured and killed every day in this country. It's hard to fathom the full extent of our cruelty when it comes to how many animals are suffering every day, around the world.
We as humans should be considered the custodians of planet Earth. And, if we are the custodians, we are doing horrific job of taking care of the Earth, and all of her blessed creations.
Odysseus
07-27-2007, 10:42 PM
my favorite species to eat is cows
edit:
whoa! i just saw a pelican eat a fish! what a barbariac species!
today i shall eat a pelican.
Cows are stupid. Hunting the wild cow? Elk is what a man eats and go shopping for it yourself. Don't tell me. You are not a man. Barbariac? Pelicans are cute. Don't you watch Disney movies? Barbaric is mankind. We seem to have no problem with murder much less survival.
skunk
07-27-2007, 10:49 PM
Cows are stupid. Hunting the wild cow? Elk is what a man eats and go shopping for it yourself. Don't tell me. You are not a man. Barbariac? Pelicans are cute. Don't you watch Disney movies? Barbaric is mankind. We seem to have no problem with murder much less survival.
i think someone should talk to those wolves about vegetarianism.... stupid communist wolves!
i want to have a pet carnivore and sit him next to grandma at thanksgiving
she WILL understand that turkeys are proud beasts that should be allowed to die of natural causes or i will MAKE her understand!
BOOOOOYA!!!!!!!
:afro:
TheDave
07-27-2007, 11:27 PM
It's disturbing to say the least... Unfortunately i am not prepared to become a vegetarian. Though i did put a stop to the pork products after seeing a similiar video a few months ago. Maybe one day I'll give up the cows and chickens...
Odysseus
07-28-2007, 09:13 AM
i think someone should talk to those wolves about vegetarianism.... stupid communist wolves!
i want to have a pet carnivore and sit him next to grandma at thanksgiving
she WILL understand that turkeys are proud beasts that should be allowed to die of natural causes or i will MAKE her understand!
BOOOOOYA!!!!!!!
:afro:
:rofl: My Grandma had a shotgun and she'd be feeding the wolve pieces to the hogs.
I think meat eaters should be forced to kill what the eat. It would actually be smart because I doubt you'd eat some of the half dead animals that end up in slaughter. Animals doped up with drugs, antibiotics and whatever to stay alive long enough to kill? It would be better if we grew them organic and killed them with a little dignity.
We want everything easy, pre-packaged and handed to us. Ronald McDonald is a guy named Ron whose smoking a butt while he's ripping the gut out of a cow trying to fix you something to eat. That ain't make around his mouth. That my man is blood. Ron's gotta eat too you know. (Burp!)
I'm not a vegetarian but I sure can pimp it like one. :wiggle:
In Iraq I ha've sat down with a shiek who killed a goat for our parties honor. Our bodies cannot eat a lot of the food common to Iraqi people because our systems have not adjusted. Mine didn't care. Stomach like a wolf.
rugbythug
07-28-2007, 10:33 AM
Do what you will. It's your conscience. A better way? don't eat it. Plain and simple. Everything from cruelty to incredible pollution to the disappearance of the amazon are all occuring so you can have your precious meat. these atrocities go on every day in this country,they are not the worst examples, you just turn a blind eye.the meat industry is very poorly regulated by the fda, hence all the recalls and ecoli cases. there is no way for them to be at every plant to make sure that animals aren't slaughtered alive.it' funny that you point out mathematics, art, architecture, and science. the film's point exactly, how humans can be so smart and yet so brutal and incompassionate.
You Act like you speak from the High Ground. As if The Amazon is not farmed for produce or there is no E-Coli in Spinach and Strawberries. Please get off your high horse. You need a refresher course in Life. When and if Famine were to come to the US you would stalk and kill the first pig you found. Nothing makes Men Equal like hunger.
Spider
07-28-2007, 11:07 AM
Man is a violent animal by nature , some kill for food , some kill for sport , others kill over possessions or territory ..........
I eat meat , lived on a farm , I know the score ........ but killing is one thing , torture is another .......But I am not going to call meat packing plants a place of Holocaust , or Genocide ........
Animals are here for a reason ........ to serve us .. Hunting = Population control ...
Odysseus
07-28-2007, 11:12 AM
You Act like you speak from the High Ground. As if The Amazon is not farmed for produce or there is no E-Coli in Spinach and Strawberries. Please get off your high horse. You need a refresher course in Life. When and if Famine were to come to the US you would stalk and kill the first pig you found. Nothing makes Men Equal like hunger.
E Coli - Brought to you by the same stupid bastiges that brought you processed meat, chicken by products, DDT, and other miracles of processing money for food. Have you had your food bio engineered lately? Designer eggs.
Famine would come only because our greedy a$$es ran out of resources because we are too stupid to manage what we have. Any famine that happens in our lifetime we created so whatever the price of that is remains truly part of the original cost.
Rigs11 isn't on any high horse. I am. Screw all you soul stealing cannibals. I bet you keep a dog around the house as food storage. Family pet my ass!
Spider
07-28-2007, 11:17 AM
Rigs11 isn't on any high horse. I am. Screw all you soul stealing cannibals. I bet you keep a dog around the house as food storage. Family pet my ass!
Naw if that were the case you would see Chinese restaurants near animal shelters ;D
Odysseus
07-28-2007, 11:28 AM
That ain't true either unless you are talking about backwater Chinese. I bet you meant Korean. If you hang around the Rez long enough you'll consider yourself lucky to get a taste of puppy. Puppy tastes good!
Spider
07-28-2007, 11:35 AM
That ain't true either unless you are talking about backwater Chinese. I bet you meant Korean. If you hang around the Rez long enough you'll consider yourself lucky to get a taste of puppy. Puppy tastes good!
thanks for the tip.....making a note of it now
Odysseus
07-28-2007, 11:50 AM
Squirrel is miserable and anybody who eats a possum is just plain desperate. Bear is gamey, greasy and if you see on skinned you'll never want to eat one again. Cat is stringy and nasty no matter how you marinade it. It's like sucker fish. You think you can make it taste right but you can't.
Oh yeah. I was talking to a Christian convert who used to be a cannibal who had an incredible testimony. During the Q&A he confessed he could no eat pork no matter how it was served because it tasted to much like people. A little FYI for you guys trying to plan the right marinade for your trip to the Andes. A chianti might be a little too delicate for most pallates.
Spider
07-28-2007, 11:53 AM
welcome to the food corner with QT ......... this week fun with Squirrel and possum ;D
Odysseus
07-28-2007, 01:32 PM
Mmm. Das Gud Eatin Daer Mon!
How to fight your way to the top of the food chain. Eat anything and everything but be sure to always slap some MayoNAISE on it.
Garcia Bronco
07-28-2007, 01:35 PM
Naw if that were the case you would see Chinese restaurants near animal shelters ;D
That's where PETA like to dump dead animals
clean
07-28-2007, 03:35 PM
... and apparently her two round plastic friends.
HERESY!
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bronco militia
07-30-2007, 09:49 AM
hey fuzzy......it's nice to know you save your insults for rep comments...
chicken ****
fuzzy
07-30-2007, 06:40 PM
hey fuzzy......it's nice to know you save your insults for rep comments...
chicken ****
idiot.
:)
fuzzy
07-30-2007, 08:00 PM
We're the only species on Earth even capable of compassion yet were supposed to be blamed and ashamed if we can't/don't always exercise it to our utmost ability, to the point of being damaging to our own interests? We're supposed to be looking out for the animals interests according to the film but a species can't survive if in the end it doesn't look out for itself first and most importantly. Humans first, animals second and that has nothing to do with intelligence or right of might. We can't survive without animals and a lot of them and the only way to have a lot of them may not be in the most "humane" way but it has to be done. Our responsibility in all of this is proper management so we don't reduce them to extinction. Their species survives, our species survives, in this argument and on this scale it isn't about the individual.
The amount of resources required to support a world full of meat eating people COMPLETELY dwarfs that of a non meat eating population, it's not even close. You make no valid points WHATSOEVER.
And you call it a ****ty documentary? Holy ****, did you even watch it? The dialog is eloquent and to the point, the footage used shows just enough brutality to truely paint a picture for your average clueless person. The horrors that some animals are forced to endure are unbelievable.
Congratulations on being a completely ignorant dumbass.
Odysseus
07-30-2007, 08:25 PM
The amount of resources required to support a world full of meat eating people COMPLETELY dwarfs that of a non meat eating population, it's not even close. You make no valid points WHATSOEVER.
And you call it a ****ty documentary? Holy ****, did you even watch it? The dialog is eloquent and to the point, the footage used shows just enough brutality to truely paint a picture for your average clueless person. The horrors that some animals are forced to endure are unbelievable.
Congratulations on being a completely ignorant dumbass.
We have paradise in our hands but we insist on lacking honor, patience, compassion, or doing the right thing. It's engrained in all of us to be stupid. We are not rational creatures. We are not moral or good by nature. Hence stupid divisions in churchs, families and even message boards. It is the way of things.
snowspot66
07-30-2007, 08:33 PM
The amount of resources required to support a world full of meat eating people COMPLETELY dwarfs that of a non meat eating population, it's not even close. You make no valid points WHATSOEVER.
And you call it a ****ty documentary? Holy ****, did you even watch it? The dialog is eloquent and to the point, the footage used shows just enough brutality to truely paint a picture for your average clueless person. The horrors that some animals are forced to endure are unbelievable.
Congratulations on being a completely ignorant dumbass.
Animal products are used in countless products, not just food. If you think just because a person is a vegetarian that they don't use any products where an animal was necessary then you can claim that title of ignorant you so willingly toss at me. Animals are an integral part of humanity, from the dollars and cents of the world economy to the various obscure uses for animal products, edible and inedible alike.
And yes, I watched the first half to 3/4 of it, unless there was an excellent comeback ending then I stand saying it was a ****ty documentary. I have to question if the people who made the documentary even filmed any of the footage in it. Yes that is important. Context is extremely important in documentaries.
The dialogue was horribly delivered and it relied entirely on shock to make the viewer angry and ashamed in order to get it's point across. While this is certainly a useful tool it can't fill an hour and a half of film without becoming incredibly repetetive. Humans are cruel. Animals are warm and fuzzy. We are bastards. Over and over and over. In order make an effective point it has to go beyond that repetetive argument or else it simply comes across as an attack job put together by PETA or Green Peace.
